Thread 715774745

SKG's regulations are a flimsy half measure that'll barely do anything. The real solution is to abolish intellectual property.
>anyone can run a server for any game without facing a cease and desist
>every predatory tactic used by modern games becomes obsolete since any sufficiently pissed off player will just make their own server with the microtransactions modded out
>corpos can't force you not to mod their games anymore
>corpos can't shut down fangames anymore

>>715774745 (OP)
Baby steps anon. Can't hope to topple the whole industry with complaining alone.

>>715774745 (OP)
How would you know when nothing's been written yet?

>>715774917
>making more regulations and getting the government's tentacles deeper into everything is baby steps towards eventually removing a regulation! don't worry we're totally moving in that direction!
Haha, no. End IP. One simple step. That's all that needs to be done.

>>715775002
Funny how the corporations would be the first to oppose that despite lolbertarians thinking it would fix everything.

>>715774745 (OP)
>ackshually we need to reorganize all of human society into an anarcholibertarian utopia
poor attempt at a demoralization post, people actually organizing to do ANYTHING makes the corporate lobby seethe

>>715775214
>Funny how the corporations would be the first to oppose [ABOLISHING IP] despite lolbertarians thinking [ABOLISHING IP] would fix everything.
It... would? Yeah? Corporations would in fact hate it if they couldn't go after people for committing thoughtcrimes. Libertarians are correct in thinking that removing throughtcrime from law would fix a lot of problems. How is this reply even an argument? Is this an AI-generated post?

>>715774745 (OP)
Where's your initiative, I'll sign it.

>>715775534
Government is not organization. Government is slavery. You are a slave defending his master's right to rape you in the ass.

>>715774745 (OP)
>The real solution is to abolish intellectual property.
I agree, but SKG is much smaller scope and more likely to be implemented. We'll go for Disney's bottom line later.

>>715774745 (OP)
>The real solution is to abolish intellectual property.

based, but that's never going to happen and a properly or even half assed implementation of SKG is by itself an uphill battle that would make important changes if successful

>>715774745 (OP)
Why would I support the abolition of IP after seeing what a microcosm of faggots on /v/ will immediately do with it?

>>715775585
Because those corporations would still be around if ip was abolished and if they oppose that abolition, they clearly don't have the public's best interest in mind which is the only reason the market would ever self-regulate or "fix" itself as your fags always like to say.

>>715775891
https://youtu.be/FnW5lkk8SOQ?t=1

>>715775002
>One simple step
This is astronomically harder to pull off than signing a petition. You sound like the rally insular reddit commies who sit on their ass and do nothing because every viable action is considered compromised in some way and we really need to get back to basics and simply demolish the entire globalist capitalist imperialistic infrastructure in one fell swoop bro.

>>715775983
How would Nintendo survive for longer than a few months if anyone could use its characters?

>>715776063
Oh no, I am entirely pro-capitalism. I just want IP to be abolished.

>>715776078
People would rather not buy games from trannies on the Internet if they can help it.

>>715776078
Frivolous litigation, buying out competition, weaponizing advertisement, etc. Plenty of ways really.

>>715774745 (OP)
Copyright law is based in international treaties and backed to the hilt by law firms, lobbies, international interest groups, law schools (producing lawyers, politicians and legislators, essentially staffing the judicial, legislative and executive branches of all governments) and pretty much every major corporation.
Even if a corporation doesn't defend its IP at all, it can still use frivolous IP law based court cases to hinder its competition, so larger corporations with the money to throw around for lobbying efforts and court cases alike aren't going to back down on keeping it active.
Even the supreme court ruled that the unconstitutional increases to copyright law were entirely constitutional, in spite of it going against the stated character of the justices backing it.

There is massive amount of money and power behind IP law, so it will be very difficult to remove even though it is a massive detriment to the cultural, academical and industrial sectors of the countries that have to deal with it.

>>715776078
How did Nintendo survive when using Popeye as their main character for "Popeye's Beer Barrel Attack Game" didn't work out?

>>715774745 (OP)
The real solution is to kill all jews, but I don't see a bill like that ever passing, you fucking retard

>>715776336
So where do we start? In your opinion, at least.

>>715776421
Begone glowie.

>>715774745 (OP)
yes, abolishing intellectual property would be nice. at the very least we could abolish copyright. Or reduce it to 5 years or something. Or even 20 years, at this point I'd take that over 7000 years after the death of the author

>>715776431
Societal reset. Nuclear apocalypse seems the most likely to happen these days.

>>715776431
Kill trademark law.
We're well past the point where it's actually useful for anything other than corporate blackmail and it can easily be handled with hash tables or whatever, rather than specifically trademarking logos, appearance, names, etc..
It's even being used to legislate against the use of properties for which copyright has lapsed.

>>715776406
Donkey Kong, at the time, was a game that had merits regardless of whether it had memorable characters in it or not. But we are not dealing with the same Nintendo that existed back then. Modern Nintendo relies entirely on its IPs for survival. Their games only run on their consoles. They shut down fangames so that you can only go to them. Without IP, their entire business model would be screwed.

>>715776548
>glowy glowy glow glow

>>715776813
You say that as if any individual could be solely responsible for a societal reset instead of major events that would involve the whole world.

Why are regulations bad exactly?

>>715777247
They can go overboard but the retards believing shit will always magically fix itself if all regulations are removed are just delusional.

>>715777247
>Why is getting raped in the ass with a spiked mace every time I try to do anything bad exactly?

>>715777396
>better bend over and open wide for the nailed bat of my corporate masters instead

>>715777396
Care to give an example?

>>715777396
>Corporations have enshrined their ability to shit in your toilet into law so thoroughly and done so much marketing to normalize it that no one questions it anymore when a major corporation leads all its employees through your house and to your toilet
You have acquired a privilege and now you will accept the responsibilities that come with it. You will flush.

>>715774745 (OP)
Sure, but right now we'll do the easy thing instead of the world-changing thing that every company would spend all of their money to stop.

>>715777461
Look up "right to repair."

>>715777768
Right to repair is a good thing though.

>>715778365
Exactly. The problem is that it's not the default.

>g-guys don't do this thing that'll actually work
>do this thing that will definitely not work
>and don't you DARE think that the first thing will help make the second thing easier

>>715774745 (OP)
great idea anon
I am going to sign SKG and then back this one up when you get started on it

>>715779269
>It'll work this time guys!

>>715775002
You would kill 99% of games that way, even from passionate devs. Even the ones willing to make a free game, will be doing so at much longer development times, since its no longer their day job.

>>715780178
If your game can only be made profitable with the help of violence then your game doesn't deserve to exist. Only games that people will voluntarily fund the creation of should exist.

>>715774745 (OP)
Eat shit, commie troon.

>>715779121
But right to repair is regulation

>>715780439
>I can't fix things unless the government says that I can't and then says that I can again
You are beyond saving. Don't breed.

>>715780274
You are proof that fans should never be given control of their media.

>>715779269
>IP abolition wouldn't work but we should make it easier to execute anyways
?

>>715777396
The regulations aim to affect corporations, not you.

>>715780562
Maybe in your eyes, but we all know what you are.

>>715780572
Oh? So I can make a game with Mario in it then? No? Not even if it's free? Hm, interesting.

>>715780524
Corporations are the ones who tried to stop your right to repair though?

>>715780669
Yes, corporations used government regulations to stop your right to repair. Government is the main tool with which corporations take away your rights, you fucking untermensch. There is no such thing as an enmity between corporations and governments. They all work together to strip you of your freedoms and reduce you to livestock.

>>715780524
>do thing that isn't protected by regulation
>corpo ass rapes me into oblivion with litigation
If you're response is just "do it anyway" you are a fucking shit sucking retard

>>715780849
So citizens shouldn't use the government to give you rights?

>>715780872
Litigations such as... invoking a government regulation?

>>715780849
It's almost like this is a multifaceted issue or something, and that corpos want you succumb to learned helplessness.

>>715780849
But the government was the one that declared the user has a right to repair and corporations can't block that?

>>715781013
So a bad regulation should intrinsically preclude any regulation that positively benefits citizens against corporate entities despite being fielded through grassroot movements?

>regulations are bad
>uses right to repair as an example as to why
I don't get it

>>715781114
Right, corpos want you to succumb and submit to their system of constant violence in the form of government regulations.
>>715781134
Right, but only after they declared that corporations can punish people for tampering with things that they bought.

>>715781218
When did they declare that?

>>715781181
I think one of them got confused.

>>715781218
So if the government course corrected why is it a problem? It sounds like it got resolved through good faith government action via regulation.

I guess no one remembers the reason why Intellectual Property rights were created in the first place.
On the advent of the printing press, book publishers(not surprised) were stealing writer's work and not giving them compensation but continued to sell their books without permission or anything.

>we need a wall to keep the mongol horde out
>A SINGLE BRICK WON'T DO ANYTHING RETARD, DON'T EVEN BOTHER BUILDING THE ENTIRE WALL

>>715781329
Jobless meritless tards such as those ITT will defend that though. Why would anyone create anything with no IP laws?

>>715774745 (OP)
>abolish intellectual property
I'm used to you retarded commies having some pretty braindead ideas, but this by far takes the cake. If you had even the slightest ability to think into the future you would see what this would bring about.

>>715781438
Because they wanted to? Or how do you think people created shit before ip laws got solidified?

>>715781529
>commies
Ancaps, actually. Hardcore libertarians with laissez-faire capitalism minded economic policies if you prefer.

>>715774745 (OP)
You can do literally all that, just don't try to get money from it and "corpos" will leave you alone

>>715780849
>>715781218
Goverment regulations are the only thing that can keep corporations in check, retard. The fact goverment is able to tell corpos "hey, stop that" is the main reason why you're NOT posting this from the Amazon Residential Zone #382 during your 5 minute break in your 20 hour long shift.

>>715774745 (OP)
Let's stick to achievable things first shall we?

Only individual person can hold IP rights. There, fucking fixed, wasn't so hard was it?

>>715781345
To be fair, the wall was in fact a failure at stopping the Mongols.

>>715782306
Sure but the intent behind the analogy works.

>>715775971
I support the abolition of IP because I've seen for 40 years what faggots of corporations do with it.

>>715774745 (OP)
Overton window is not there yet.

>>715781746
You cant, distribution of pirated software, even if done for free with no intent of profit, will still land you in jail in most first world countries

>>715780849
>Yes, corporations used government regulations to stop your right to repair.
No they didn't you negative IQ unconctacted tribal nigger. They stopped your right to repair by simply releasing products you can't repair, exacerbated by a position of dominance from unchecked nergers and acquisitions of competitors leaving consumers with at best a duopoly.

John Deere has it right.

>>715783115
I too love not owning what I own

>>715783148
You are more than welcome to not buy it and/or make your own.

>>715783252
I'll do option c: buckbreak you with governmental regulations. Cry about it.

>>715776078
By leveraging their teams of professional entrenched developers and industry experience? By having access to a huge amount of money to fund development? Did you think at all before asking that?

>>715783456
The best part is that my position has succeeded.

>>715783456
How did that work out for John Deere again?

>>715780568
>disagree with doing a thing that would make doing your impossible task marginally more likely
?

>>715781438
>people who have never created anything except a monetization model really be like "idk I just don't get why people make things they want to make if it isn't to become rich"

>oh you have an idea? The corporations thank you and will take that idea for themselves and price you out of the market
People calling for the abolishment of patent, copyright, ip, ect. don't actually think of the consequences for they?

>>715783836
How many video games were made under communism?

>>715786080
You can visit Moscow videogames museum (or watch GCCX Russia episode) to find out.

Don't you need to report to your commanding office for your regular ass raping Vlad?

trolls of /v/ermin will never stop being persistent

>>715789010
Still pushing those lies your faggot kike corporate overlords tell you, you stupid fucking pig. After we win this war I can't wait to go west to release and raise up the workers from their cages and shackles so they can cheer while your world dies

>>715786080
Ever heard of Tetris?

>>715774745 (OP)
>The real solution is to abolish intellectual property.
Wrong
>anyone can run a server for any game without facing a cease and desist
Wrong
You still need the code to be able to run it, and SKG is fighting for access to parts of that code so after a company abandons a game you could run it for yourself in a non commercial setting. That is at least one of the possible options.
>every predatory tactic used by modern games becomes obsolete since any sufficiently pissed off player will just make their own server with the microtransactions modded out
They already should be. You are not forced to participate in those predatory systems. I don't remember the last time I bought a game with those.
>corpos can't force you not to mod their games anymore
They can. You still run into the same issue, even if you abolish intellectual property. If half or more of the game is server side, without access to it, and its authentication process, you can't mod something you can't run.
>corpos can't shut down fangames anymore
That is the only benefit to your abolishing of IPs. Hilariously enough, a corpo could simply steal that fan game and sell it as their own, since you have abolished intellectual property, and they have an infinitely better marketing platform than a fangame.

tl:dr
You are retarded.

>>715774745 (OP)
It's called realpolitik.

>>715777247
Because if seatbelts are made mandatory there won't be any cars anymore. Every car manufacturer will just go out of business.

>>715781329
They were created to promote government censorship, because logically anyone would be able to print off countless anti-establishment texts, thus requiring the government to regulate access to printing presses by issuing copy rights.
>>715781529
>Higher literacy rate
>Higher rate of education
Standard shit really. Under copyright law books were display pieces, without it anyone could pick up textbooks for pennies from reprinters, and upon its introduction people were worried that they'd be getting less money from their work.
We are currently entering a period of massive stagnation because of IP law after major publishing companies got rich off of works that were public domain under copyright durations that were only a fraction of their current duration.
>>715782232
A corporation is an individual person :)
Just reduce it to 5-14 years.
>>715785975
Corporations no longer have the competence, manufacturing or supply chains to do that. At worst China would do that and they're doing that anyway.