play the first berserker khazan

>>715775919 (OP)
I already have

>>715775919 (OP)
I really wish more people would, I don’t see why people try to act like being a Nioh clone is suddenly a bad thing.

played the demo, level design sucked, sound design sucked, spammy bosses sucked

>>715776486
What boss is spammy in the demo?

>>715776793
he got filtered

>>715775919 (OP)
Why should I? What does it particularly excel at? What does it do with originality? What will be its legacy?

Port it to Switch 2

>>715775919 (OP)
i am! and it's super fucking fun.

These latest soulslops simply don't understand that it was always the level design that made Souls games special and memorable, not the combat which was always mediocre and a little boring.

Take Lies of P, such a good game in many ways but the levels are all just glorified corridors.

>>715775919 (OP)
I want to but my computer's graphics card is booty cheeks so it cant run it well.

>>715777353
I guess it's a good thing then that Khazan's combat is way better than Souls

>>715776381
I'd rather nioh clones than souls clones but khazan didn't hook me with it's demo like I hoped it would

Waiting for the female DLC.

>>715777353
souls is garbage and you should feel bad

>>715777353
Souls stopped having level design after 2. DS3 was mostly linear corridors with minimal platformer, Elden Ring had no level design outside of legacy dungeons, and Nightreign is literally just a boss rush.

>>715775919 (OP)
sorry but I don't play premade characters, fuck off with your twinks, monkeys and john skyrims

>>715777161
YES

>>715777353
I found the mission layout itself great but I can't stand this "rubble blocks your path" approach. It happens more than once that something knee high blocks your path and this sucks.

>>715777353
>it was always the level design that made Souls games
At this point no one is trying to recreate souls but to use it's systems as a jump off point for their own thing. Good thing that because their combat keeps me coming back a lot more than dark souls' shortcuts

>>715777159
for me, it's what i wish Souls games had evolved toward. it's a sort of Sekirolike, but it also has some Diablo loot, and Diablo skill trees with different Diablo-esque abilities. for example, i like the Spear a lot. one of it's skills is a quick flurry of stabs, another is a spinning slash that helps close gaps and can counter your opponent's attacks if you time it well, and there's another i like that let's you twirl the Spear around and deflect attacks for a couple seconds. that's just 3 though, there's a big leaping slash one and a charged drill stab too. also, First Berserker has Devil Trigger, which is always cool.

part of why i've kinda burnt out on Elden Ring and the Souls formula is that the movesets are very static and at best you get one flashy Art of War, but Khazan feels like a real positive step forward. the animations and combat feel are two of the biggest selling points to me. none of that other shit would matter as much if the hitboxes were sloppy or if the attacks felt like shit or if the animations looked like shit, but thankfully none of that is an issue. the bosses are also fucking awesome, even if some of them are re-used for Side Quests.

it's quickly becoming one of my Top 3 games in this genre and i hope they make another game like it or do a DLC and maybe add another character or weapon. the only potential shortcoming i would forewarn you of is that the only weapon types are a Dual-Wield Sword & Axe (you can make it Sword & Sword or Axe & Axe with a Nexus mod), Greatsword, and Spear. there's a basic unarmed moveset, too, but there's no Unarmed skill tree or Unarmed Diablo abilities though, unfortunately.

>>715777652
it's out! i started like two days before it came out and was glad i did cause you have to get through a few levels and rescue the Blacksmith first before you can switch to lady Khazan.

>>715777992
>it's a sort of Sekirolike, but it also has some Diablo loot, and Diablo skill trees with different Diablo-esque abilities
Sounds like every post nioh team ninja game

Game was too long and too linear. And like all modern souls like games... too much focus on bosses.

One of the most boring soulslike games ever.

>>715778076
that isn't untrue, but one thing i forgot to mention that i'm happy you reminded me to bring up, is that First Berserker plays at what i consider an optimal speed and pace. it isn't like Nioh or Ninja Gaiden, where you have to take Adderall or mainline caffeine to keep up with what's going on. that's part of why it's grabbed me in a way Nioh 2 wasn't able to and that i suspect Nioh 3 won't either.

>>715778178
>it isn't like Nioh or Ninja Gaiden, where you have to take Adderall or mainline caffeine to keep up with what's going on
As someone who drinks 10 coffeea a day this is one of the reasons I love these games, especially nioh 2 and sop. I'll give khazan another go when price drips a bit but the demo just didn't entice me to buy the full game

>>715775919 (OP)
Dfo sucks

>>715778109
for me, the relative linearity is a godsend. i still haven't beaten Elden Ring because of how tremendously long and open-ended it is, but Khazan is a return to a clear, level-based format that i find much more satisfying to progress through. i'm actually confident i'll finish this game.

and of course the level design has some interconectivity to it, with shortcuts becoming available as you progress the level that you let you return to those later areas more quickly (ie knocking down ladders and opening gates that are locked from one side). i love it, personally. i don't know if i'll ever go back and finish Elden Ring or start Erdtree.

alright, i'm gonna jump off the game's dick now for a minute and actually play some. lol

>>715778238
hahaha that's completely fair. you are a valid demographic. i wish they would start doing Normal and Turbo Modes for their games like some other action games. that way you could enjoy Khazan more and i could enjoy Nioh 3 more.

>>715778328
>i don't know if i'll ever go back and finish Elden Ring or start Erdtree
The problem I have with elden ring is that combat isn't as fun and engaging as khazan, and you're doing it for 100+ hours in a big empty game. It just isn't particularly fun when your options for variety boil down to spamming ashes of war, trying a spell or just flicking between tons or weapons with slightly different animations. It's such a good looking game but I just get very bored with it at some point.

>>715778458
I hope nioh 3 will be their swan song and they dont lean into the open world fad. Current levels in alpha were okay but enemy density will definitely suffer

>>715778567
>they dont lean into the open world fa
they literally just released rise of the ronin and it was kino

>play demo
>oh this is kinda cool.. it's not a boss rush parry spam shit game
>get to the final boss of the demo
>parryslop incarnate
aaaaaaand dropped. another boring generic boss rush parry spam infested dogshit clone. kys i hope the company goes bankrupt.

>>715778724
Mechanically yea, I had a whale of a time messing with all styles, but I hated the open world format. I shouldn't be out searching for fights like a treasure hunt. Nor did I like all the other shit scattered in the world like shrines, photo points, cats. It's just all just such bizarre padding busy work. The cat concierge shut was hilarious because it just reminded me of dispatching mercs in mgs5. I think nioh/sop mission selection format is perfect for these types of games

>>715777353
Lies of P is great but you're not wrong. The levels are insultingly railroaded when they could've at least looped back into Hotel Krat.

>>715778742
There's really only one combo that you have to parry from Blade Phantom. Otherwise you can pretty much stun lock him from 100 to 0

>>715777353
I think the DLC for Lies of P was a significant improvement in its level design. The zoo alone eclipses anything in the base game. It's still incredibly linear, but I hope that we'll see them further improve in the sequel.

>>715778724
that's fair. i haven't had a chance to play it yet cause my GPU can't handle it.

>>715775919 (OP)
Hmm sex elf, maybe I wi-
>>715776381
>Nioh(dogshit game) clone
Nevermind

>>715775919 (OP)
can i fuck this dark elf? if not then i dont care for this game.

>>715780515
>shit taste in waifus
>shit taste in games
Classic

>>715780402
I upgraded just for nioh 3 so have been able to play it now. Very fun. Great despite it being open world.

>>715775919 (OP)
I'm on the last mission, but I'm playing on normal difficulty.
Fun game, bosses are actually fun on normal since they don't have unlimited health

>>715775919 (OP)
It's good. We should have more of these games that actually concentrate on fun engaging combat instead of what this faggot says >>715777353 and everyone chasing the souls feel with convoluted levels or bloat or the same boring overdone motifs like a dead kingdom, zanzishart etc.

>>715775919 (OP)
>Denuvo
>Souls clone
Why should I when Lies of p and Ai limit is right over there? There's also that ronin game that had negative views for some reason.

>>715781118
It's much more similar to Nioh, Wo Long or wukong with missions and combat focus compared to "classic" souls

>>715781264
This plus cheap chinky plastic look is why I gave ai limit a skip

In Nioh, do you also choose main or side missions after you finish with the current one?

>>715781371
Yes

>>715775919 (OP)
I did, beat it 3 times already with all 3 weapons. Dual Wield was the most fun, Spear was easiest, and Greatsword was hardest of the bunch. All the mage bosses were piss easy, the hardest humps to get through in the game are all in act 1, with the final boss (and his secret 3rd phase) being the most difficult if you accidentally get it on the first playthrough. After that he's the most fun boss in the entire game.