We need a hero to save video game industry from further censorship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPK2HwYzjkA

>>715792481 (OP)
they can't work in the US, banks would just refuse to work with them

Ideally Alipay expands beyond China or the EU grabs one of their existing options (MBway, Wero, Swish) and injects it with enough funding to make it a viable alternative.

>>715793012
Tell the bank to make it work then. It work in anywhere else except UScuck

>>715792481 (OP)
>tfw my bank issued this as my only debit card option originally, thought they were taking the piss because it's so limited
>becomes extremely useful after the fact
Neat. I had other options to fall back on but it's good to have.

>>715792481 (OP)
>lets just pic a random payment valve accepts other than visa and mastercard and pretend it'll be our hero
JCB doesnt work in a lot of countries or requires a lot of hoops to get your money on it, and even when you do manage to do it, there's often issues with processing payments
>inb4 who gives a fuck about this or that country
YOU might not give a fuck, but valve does, and they certainly won't go an remove payments that everyone in the world can use in favor of ones most countries have problems with, that would just prevent the vast majority of their userbase from buying games
>inb4 steam giftcards
first, even if you, the end user, pay cash for them, the payment to valve is still processed via visa or mastercard
second, the ability to use credit cards to NOT rely on having to recharge your steam wallet in set amounts and to NOT have to go out to buy giftcards when your wallet credit isn't enough to buy this or that game are crucial, cause it allows users to buy any game at any time

>>715793323
the US aren't the only countries that have issues with JCB

literally any solution you, the end user, can come up with is a solution that only benefits you or solves the issue for you, but thats not how valve(or any other company) can afford to think like, they HAVE TO think globally and in a way to exclude less people as possible, and none of your solutions allow that

>>715793562
Here in Asia JCB is as big as Visa and Mastercard

>>715793819
cool, now solve the issues for all the other countries where it doesn't work half(or more) of the times

>>715793562
>processed via visa or mastercard
Did America really ? We dont rely on visa and mastercard here. Stop sucking their cocks. There are other methods

>>715792481 (OP)
Doesn't matter if the sellers remove shit to appease visa and mastercard anyway.

>>715792481 (OP)
How about
https://epicompany.eu/

>>715792481 (OP)
The era of mail order is back babbbbby

>>715793897
Good old wire transfer. Time to walk to the bank or ATM machine you lazy americucks. If you pay locally you can fill your online wallet from ATM machine as well. Surely America have those, right ?

>>715792481 (OP)
Just pressure storefronts into accepting it.

>>715794115
>cryptocuckrrency
No thanks.

>>715793012
>>715792481 (OP)
Aren't JCB and Discover linked in some way? I don't think they're owned by the same company but they're definitely partners because JCB processes all my Discover payments when I'm in Asia.

>>715793908
>Did America really ?
im european you fucking mongoloid
>We
did you even read my post?
YOURS, MINE, OURS, NONE OF THAT MATTERS, IT'S THEIRS, VALVE'S
it doesnt matter what works for YOU or ME, what YOUR COUNTRY or MY COUNTRY uses, what YOUR COUNTRY or MY COUNTRY does or doesn't rely on, what matters is what payments are available and without issues in ALL COUNTRIES valve operates in, and the only payment methods that work in ALL COUNTRIES are visa and mastercard

relying on ANY other form of payment while removing visa and mastercard is a literal suicide for valve

>>715794115
don't you need like 500gb+ of disk space to use this?

>>715794084
>america
>americans
>lazy americucks
im european you retarded troglodite
>go out to an ATM
read carefully, cause i already covered that
the ability to use credit cards to NOT rely on having to recharge your steam wallet in set amounts and to NOT have to go out to buy giftcards when your wallet credit isn't enough to buy this or that game are crucial, cause it allows users to buy any game at any time

>>715794209
>>715792481 (OP)
>>715794293

Being a third world people surely had its advantages. Imagine having suck Visa Mastercard cock to pay for anything lol

>>715794179
Except XMR is what Bitcoin was in 2012 before it went mainstream and then a million other faggot coins spawned from it. It's an actual currency you can use to buy things.

>>715794293
I dont use Credit Cards and i never will.
Use ATM or Debit Cards

>>715794331
>>715794385
which part of WHAT YOU INDIVIDUAL USERS AND COUNTRIES DO DOES NOT MATTER is so hard to grasp

>>715794423
Speak my language, EFL.

>>715794331
Yeah weird how my third-world shithole has plenty of other options.

>>715794209
>payment methods that work in ALL COUNTRIES are visa and mastercard


Steam Wallets / Gift cards is NOT processed by Visa and Mastercard. They are processed by your LOCAL payment processor. There are NO VISA and MASTERCARD involvement.

>>715793819
Yeah, but even in Asia it's hit-or-miss outside Japan. Korea barely touches it, China has its own whole payment ecosystem, and SEA countries support it mostly through co-branded cards anyway. Just because it’s big in select pockets doesn’t mean it’s a global alternative yet. Valve won’t shift their whole infrastructure to something that works 80% of the time when Visa/MC work 99% of the time, even if they suck.

>>715794345
>It's an actual currency you can use to buy things.
From who?

>>715794660
Nah here in Indo JCB is big

>>715794475
Tidak masalah dengan apa pun Anda bisa membayar jika penjualnya disensor oleh Visa/MasterCard, dasar homo.

>>715794959
Then use alternative payment methods like i said before lol. Its a non issue you retards just keep sucking VISA and MASTERCARD cocks too much. In the end they just a payment processors and there are tons of alternative payment processors available.

>>715795064
You go on ahead and convince steam to drop visa mastercard and only accept payment processors that won't censor them then, I'll wait. Fucking retard, I swear.

>>715795182
I cant do it since i dont live in USA lol. Heres an idea. GABEN owns a Motorsports team, threaten him to rig the car to explode on race (and kill his race driver son) to drop Visa and Mastercard

>>715795307
You glow bright then fucking Chernobyl. Either that, or you were born there. Either way, you are still retarded.

>>715795384
>Provide an alternative
>Noooooooo i cant do it nooooooooooooooo
Keep sucking their cocks then

>>715795463
Ah yes, a terrorist threat to convince people to do what you want, what a reasonable alternative. Jump off the nearest bridge, your existence alone lowers the worldwide iq by at least 10 points.

>>715795594
An alternative to Terrorist threat is to use other Platform like JCB or Steam Gift / Wallet card using CASH or Atm transfer or other method than relying on CC like Visa and Mastercard


....And yet you still unable to do this

>>715795307
People need to start using alternatives for steam to adopt them, that's how it works you low iq nigger.

>>715795803
We dont even need to do that. Just stop using VISA and MASTERCARD and eventually Steam will drop them. But this is just wishful thinking since theres so many casual retards out there.

>>715795731
Again, you don't understand that it doesn't matter even if steam accept those alternate payment methods if steam still bends to the demands of visa and mastercard. Visa and mastercard would need to be completely phased out for steam to even consider dropping them and that is a monumental task.
>>715795929
You say that like it's just a snap of the fingers and a few weeks or months away from happening.

>>715795929
>Just stop using VISA and MASTERCARD and eventually Steam will drop them
What do you think using alternatives means you gorilla

>>715796028
>>715796157

Be the change you want to see.
One way or another.
If i can live for almost 40 years without relying on credit card, why cant you ??

>>715796197
Because other people don't live in shitholes like indonesia.

>>715796318
Fuck off were full

>>715796374
Full of shit, yeah I know, it's indonesia. You are like one of those retards who claim they don't need a car but have only ever lived in a densely populated city center. they don't know any better, and neither do you.

>>715796318
>>715796374
ちなみにこっちも満員です

>>715794208
JCB left the North American market a few years ago and sold everything to Discover.

>>715796558
Cheap food, affordable housing, no niggers (except in papua shithole), whats there to hate ? The only bad thing is if you got really sick its game over for (You)

And yes we dont need a car. We can drive around the city with pic related.

>>715796571
I'm not fucking asking, moonman. Go ask Ken Akamatsu to save dlsite again instead of being a faggot.

>>715796750
>whats there to hate ?
Everything else you didn't mention.

>>715797078
Politics ? Dont care
Corrupt Organizations ? Every single place on earth has those
Corruption ? Everyone corrupt here (including me) so its fair
Crime ? Just dont be retarded.

>>715796750
Your entire population is full of brown retards, you're no better than niggers you monkey lmao
But it's pointless to try and explaining to you why a 1st world country is better than a turd world shithole

>>715794209
Steam should just stop selling games in Americuck LOL!!!!!!!! Amerifats are all poor third worlders who steal games anyway LMAO!!!!!! Valve would lose almost no sales by cutting them off.

>>715797228
Do you have malaria under control yet, or is that still a problem? My dad caught a weak strain there back in the 70s or something and he only stopped getting attacks about a decade ago.

>>715797228
Spoken like a true third worlder with no empathy
Truly, empathy is a white man's burden

>>715797356
>>715797501
Feeling superior while you literally get anally raped by Visa and Mastercard jews, eh ??

>>715797482
Whats Malaria ?

>>715797228
See, you can only point 2 good points and when pressed ever so slightly you suddenly remember a bunch of shitty things but pretend they don't matter if you bury your head in the sand. You are a literally an animal in a zoo who has never known anything else and pretend it's the best place on earth.

>>715797537
>Malaria in Indonesian is still "malaria"
解せぬ

>>715797604
Keep seething. Reminder 30% of your salary are used to fund VISA and Mastercard jews

>>715797792
It actually costs around $0.08 a month, so yeah, I guess that'd be 30% of the average indonesian salary.

>>715792481 (OP)
K, now remove the taxes.

I don't care about porn games, I have them hidden, but I do care about Visa and Mastercard constantly trying to destroy legal, and in some cases Constitutionally protected, markets like they have repeatedly done with firearms and amunition companies.

The saddest part of all this is that if there's one website whose users are savvy and autistic enough to willingly bypass Visa and Mastercard entirely it's Steam. If Gaben just made a twitter post telling Visa, Mastercard, and Paypal to fuck off you would likely see mass Discover/Amex applications from Steam users in a matter of minutes.

as this is used in Taiwan, supreme overlord apparently does turn a blind eye

>>715794654
from what site is that?

>>715798084
fucking this, no muss, no fuss, better than paypal

Worse because US have a fair amount of instant payment systems.

Nobody cares and still use CC.

I 100% believe steam will add cryptocurrency purchases and payouts exclusively for porn games at some point in the future.

>>715801557
all kept under visa's heel.

>>715800460
It's from Steam itself

>>715802529
They tried crypto from 2010 to 2017 and had to drop it due to volatility and absurd transfer times/fees.

>>715802735
So that's why orangeman is butthurt about brazil.

Fintechs there pretty much took over since pix, help that everyone is obligated to use either way. If you ever need credit, big boys are there, but for day to day purchases and even regular usage, online wallets should suffice.

>>715793012
I was at the post office and they had a sign that says all the forms of payment they accept and jcb was there alongside american express.

The only things being "censored" are AAA normieslop
indies are fine

>>715794232
500gb is nothing these days anon, you can get an 8TB hard drive for under $100

>>715804434
Retard, they have power to remove whatever they want, not mention that nip games are common target even if work is completely harmless.

>>715794179
Then die a cuck.

>>715792481 (OP)
Are you guys pretending to be stupid or what? Japan has been censoring H manga (and everything) for years.

>>715792481 (OP)
>tfw used to have JCB for buying figures, doujin, etc
>got cancelled in 2018
Part of a "economic conciliation" of the gov at the time. I miss it.

>>715794208
JCB pulled out of the US market, sold their existing US infrastructure to Discover, and created a cross honoring agreement so Discover customers get payments routed through JCB infrastructure in Asia and vice versa