Was he right /v/?
Is becoming a “pro gamer” a waste of time and effort?

Yeah, crazy how going to college you not only develop a long term career, but end up having tons of sex and partying. You not only get a stable future, but also get to enjoy being young and doing crazy shit.

>go be a brain surgeon instead
k thanx for the tip

>>715801237 (OP)
>an evil circle

>>715801237 (OP)
yeah,
1. you're competing against millions
2. you need top tier equipment
3. you're fucked if you get canceled
4. you're in a toxic environment
5. your skills could be neutered by patches
6. it doesn't give a useful skillset
7. you will suck and it will be tough to learn past a certain age

for that effort you can do an actual sport

>>715801496
>long term career
did you really just say that?
>having tons of sex and partying
nigga are you still in 1950 or some shit
>inb4 those are the meme gender studies degree affected
quite the opposite
https://archive.is/ularq

>>715801237 (OP)
I personally think Twitch became the way it is now due to the fact many "normal" gamers have utterly turned on esports and streamers. Twitch is a political/irl streaming hell hole now becasue of it. Everyone hates big streamers for ruining games and a lot of people are starting to hate esports too

>>715801817
>for that effort you can do an actual sport
not really because this is the true genetics rat race and if you didn't start as early as 3-5 years old then you will never catch up if we are talking shit like gymanstics for instance

>>715801237 (OP)
I paid for my degree with money I earned from local competitions, esports betting, and RMT from MMO

Yes and streaming is also a waste of time. It's fine to do as a hobby. Don't expect more.

>>715801835
Lmao loser didn't go to college. I went in the 2010s and did tons of partying and hooking up, got several girlfriends, and now make a ton of money.

>>715801835
only because you can't get a job with your useless degree doesn't mean eveyone can't

>>715801496
I went to college and didn't get a stable job or have sex while also missing out on being a pro gamer. Your response, faggot?

>>715802248
>I'm a loser. Your response, faggot?

I would get so burnt out playing the same game full time every day. Also your hands must be completely wrecked by your mid 20s.

>>715801817
>for that effort you can do an actual sport
being a pro at actual sports isn't great either unless you get at the very top, most professional athletes either barely scrape by or they have to have a normal job too

>>715801889
Literally hate it when esports fags are on my team. I almost always end up team killing them to shut them up. And it works cause they actually give af about their k/d ratio

>>715801942
with gymnastics and martial arts, you can do animation, fight choreography, exercises, etc

it has a lot of utilities, live service games in contrast don't

>>715802226
What is and isn't useless in the age of AI and unchecked migration? Say you had a kid, aged 18, and he/she asks you "dad what should I do at college". My degree was hella useful but to this imaginary child I'd have no idea what to say

>>715802248
How do you go to college and not have sex? Are you Mormon?

>>715801237 (OP)
As opposed to becoming a pro cashier or pro taxi or pro whatever the fuck people are doing to gain money in this day and age? Aren't those a much MUCH worse waste of time and effort?

>>715801835
You misunerstand the situation.
In the current job market, EVERYONE is screwed.
Once, having a degree was a guarantee that you would get a well paying job.
Now it's not true anymore, but it doesn't mean that those who don't have a degree have it much better, in fact they have it even worse, but it's less surprising in their cases.

>>715802226
>>715802220
MSc in CS
>inb4 useless degree
ok blud, your bigmac is ready btw, do you want large or medium fries?

>>715802583
I don't think I got laid at all in college. To busy doing science for next to no money. Fuxk academia

>>715802596
those two professions give additional useful soft skills, live service games dont

Hax killed himself after being banned from Melee, he competed for 20 years but got banned because he called someone a nazi

>>715801889
I never thought of the actual death of video game streaming on twitch being linked to more attacks agasint esports

>>715801496
I didn't go to parties in college, for some reason that made me label myself as a loser for so long. But I had a super cute virgin gf that I fucked for years during college, and now I make a ridiculous amount of money working from home, dating another cute girl 10 years younger than me. But the loser mentality doesn't go away, and I'm sure it has something to do with spending the last 14 years of my life browsing this site.

>>715802583
Didn't you see ugly nerds in college? It's full of them.

>>715801237 (OP)
>Is becoming a “pro gamer” a waste of time and effort?
It was for me when I was young, tho it's a lot easier now to make a living off video games. It basically boils down to; how attractive are you? How charismatic are you? Being a pro gets attention, but keeping attention is what you're after because once the game you're a "Pro" at loses popularity or you get too old to be a "Pro", you'll need a large base of supporters.

With coming Ai competing for attention, your best bet is to train to be an Electrician on the side.

>>715803109
I don't care about retarded losers

>>715803229
You're absolutely surrounded by them here.

>>715803189
There's literally one popular AI streamer man

>>715801237 (OP)
Doesn't seem like he calls it that, he is just saying is not sustainable as a Lifelong career or that you re huarnateed to make it, which is true, if you make it you capitalize on it if you do make it and have an exit plan.

that's all sports, do you know how many blacks played a little sports in college then became losers

Pro gaming and streamers killed gaming culture

>>715801835
>nigga are you still in 1950 or some shit
No one had premarital sex in the hecking based trad 50s

>>715801237 (OP)
>stop having fun already goy

>>715801237 (OP)
>there's so much more than CS out there
>any concrete example?
>...

>>715802248
His response in posting on 4chan like a winner.

>>715802583
It's very easy. I went to class and hung out with male friends a couple times a week. Never went partying or anything. My friends were also focused on academics and didn't really have connections that could lead me to that sort of stuff. I'm now a 31 year old virgin with a stem career.

>>715801496
Fucking lol
This is some boomer fantasy shit

>>715802583
How do you go to college and have sex? How do you convince a girl to get undressed for you and let you basically rape her for an hour or so. I don't get it.

>>715801237 (OP)
The esports bubble is popping. Streaming is where the money is at, but you are still a retard if that is your future plan.

>>715804998
Dude what? The girl should hopefully want sex too. Also an hour?

>>715804529
I did this in the 2010s. Boomers were in their 60s by then.

>>715805131
Huh? I thought girls didn't like sex since they're always screaming during it. And what's wrong with an hour?

>>715805131
I still don't know how to get to sex despite having done it many times. I usually let them initiate it.

>>715803957
Posting on 4chan lets you become a winrar
we're all loser faggots here

>>715804998
>talk to girl in or outside class, or at a party
>get some regular friends who happen to be girls
>start talking to other girls as wanting to go out with them after you learn to talk to girls as friends
>if you sense she's interested, ask if she wants to go out on a date
>if rejected, move on
>should get a date by the 10th girl
>then eventually dating leads to sex
>if she says no to having sex a week or two into dating, move on

>>715801237 (OP)
a few years back, I had a pro Halo 3 gamer try to convince me to become a pro Splatoon 2 gamer. i didnt go for it, and now have a well-paying career that i actually like. he, meanwhile, has seemingly vanished. no idea what happened and i'm a little scared to ask.

point being, yes, pro gaming is - from my experience - not a career worth working.

>mfw watching mid20s washed up nerds spending hundreds of dollars on 30gram mice and glass mousepads and IEMs/gaming headsets that sound like shit while playing kovaaks every single day because they think its going to help them go pro and in reality they're just getting mogged in the server by some barely-sentient ESL on a g502 and a membrane keyboard

>>715802583
I pulled it off by being suicidally depressed. Not a recommended pathway but one that worked.

>>715805556
>if she says no to having sex a week or two into dating, move on
This is what I needed to know, thanks, I'm having a second date today, last one was last week, so I'm gonna make a move.

>>715805793
i'm so glad i didn't understand this sentence

>>715801237 (OP)
When choosing a career, you should generally ask yourself: "How will this help me if society collapses?".
The construction worker can still apply his skill to build things, the professional cook can attempt to make squirrel stew a bearable experience, even a musician can do menial tasks and enrich the lives of his community with mild entertainment.
What does a professional gamer or youtuber do for the community? You could argue that they provide entertainment now, but it's not the kind of entertainment that can persist if the world goes to shit for a while.

>>715801496
my uni degree hasn't gotten me shit

>>715806041
To add a closing statement: If your only skill is pushing buttons to dispense dopamin, you are no better than a lab rat or monkey.

>>715801237 (OP)
>time having fun is wasted
nah fuck that

>>715801237 (OP)
he's just gatekeeping, or why the fuck would he care if other people ruin their lifes?

>>715801237 (OP)
I wonder. I was one of the highest ranked League of Legends players in pre-season 1 and in season 1, always played with all the people that would eventually become pros and I'm certain I could've become one of them, but I just continued my studies instead and played as a hobby.
On one hand because I continued my studies I landed a good fully remote software dev job, and I was able to drop League when it became boring to me, not needing to marry the game like some pros do, big salaries weren't a thing in the west back then so I guess that helped. But on the other hand I kinda regret not giving it a go, seeing how far I would've been able to go, some of the old dudes from s1 ended up going back to their studies and are now employed in regular jobs so going pro for a few years wasn't a harmful pursuit after all.
I don't know, I think you just gotta know when to call it quits, give it a go if you'd like to and when you're too washed just pursue the next thing that makes you happy.

>"What do you mean playing video games is not a career option?"
Are people really like this?
Also, video games are just a fancy waste of time. If you have that much time to kill, use it to get a real skill.

>>715801817
>2. you need top tier equipment
Razer marketing department right here.
>5. your skills could be neutered by patches
If you're a one patch wonder you were never truly good.