Thread 715804183

>Geralt: "men are monsters"
>/v/: silence
>Ciri: "men are monster"
>/v/: IT'S HECKIN WOKE!

>>715804183 (OP)
People are retarded. What else is new?

you must chooze

>>715804183 (OP)
why would both say something that is categorically false

>>715804451
This, men are perfect
>90% of murderers and rapists
>responsible for every single war in human history
>cause suffering for no reason
>make fake rules that "constrain" them from ending suffering
>invent magic gods and religions to enslave the world
>invent capitalism it destroy the planet and enrich pedophiles (another group that is also all men)
>take everything from women, decide it isn't enough, start pretending to be women
Men are a mistake

>>715804183 (OP)
What have women invented?

>>715804717
Kevlar

>>715804183 (OP)
>Men are monster

The hate toward Ciri would be less justified if they weren't writing her to be a Witcher. That should be canonically impossible, so the question becomes "for what reason are they so disrespecting the source material?" and an answer to that question is "they have to use a female protagonist due to pressure from internal/external forces, and they still want to retain the Witcher gameplay elements". Making concessions like that to the modern audience has people rightfully worried.

>>715804183 (OP)
Erm he actually meant hu-mens are monsters. Stop pretending or actually being illiterate.

>>715804642
yeah now compare those numbers to goblins and ghouls

>>715804183 (OP)
If geralt says it he means the inherent desires of people can lead to humans and human like creatures of his planet being corrupted and doing evil.

If Ciri says it she means the chad and pumped and dumped her made her upset and she's going to take it out on every other man.

>>715805038
Please explain why it's canonically impossible for Ciri to be a Witcher

>>715804378
>you must chooze
For me its Feline armor (with lowered hood).
Also, I think Iris (enchanted with Severance for that yellow glow and spin bonus) & Aerondight go better with this armor than the regular Feline swords. The Feline crossbow stays tho.
Also, you can get a similar color scheme on Roach with Geralt of Rivia's saddle, Beauclair saddlebags and Knight Errant's blinders.

>>715804717
men

>>715804378
starting kaer morhen armor

>>715804183 (OP)
geralt is man so he can say it
just like niggers can say n-word

>>715804183 (OP)
>Geralt: "humans are monsters"
>/v/: silence
>Ciri: "males are monsters"
>/v/: IT'S HECKIN WOKE!
yes

>>715804378
manticore, but i seem to recall it looking better than the version in that pic

>>715804183 (OP)
"Men" in this context refers to humanity as a whole and not specially males. I suppose I should expect people to just lie about being victimized at this point.

>>715805038
Ciri grew up with and was raised by witchers. Her lineage and distinct powers aside, there wasn't really any possibility of her being anything else. What was she supposed to do? Bartend?

>>715804183 (OP)
>women: all women dream about being raped
>op: silence
>/v/: all women dream about being raped
>op: NOOOO BAN ALL VIDEOGAMES

I think its more the issue people think Geralt is some grey morality guy who is a ends justify the means when actually hes a massive moralfag who goes out of his way to be a moralfag

Like killing monsters he didnt have to kill those guys he did the bounty and was leaving but his speech was "I dont like treating evil as lesser o greater its all evil to me fucking CHUD"

Someone give a justification for Ciri trusting this guy in W3. Last time she saw him in the books he was trying to breed her to the Elven king. He was fully manipulative and trying to use her, there was never any indication he was her ally. The next time she saw him she should've tried to cut his head off

>>715806630
where did the "grey morality" thing even come up for him anyway?

>>715805596
>>715806172
Trial of glass has killed all prospective female witchers to date and the knowledge of how to produce a witcher has been lost by the time she would be undergoing the trials in the first place

A good deal of effort was made to establish in the books it's not possible and it's not just the above that touches on it, but I suppose in a world where Hermione can be retconned to be black you're entitled to whatever you like

>>715804183 (OP)
Does this look woke to you?

The entire conversation around woke and not woke is incredibly compromised at this point because the trannies saw that they were suddenly losing in an extremely bad way and their response has been to call everything woke, whether in a serious, falseflag kind of way, or a condesending way to make it seem like a joke. Either way, 10 years of resentment isn't going to go away with one simple trick, sadly for them. Pushed their luck way too hard.

>>715806858
I mean, she is pretty unique, it wouldn't be so ridiculous to mark her out as an exception. But I can see where you're coming from, it does seem quite forced.

>>715804378
Wolven is peak
Ursine is kino too (for Skellige)

>>715806858
If Ciri could survive the dryads waters of Brokilon she could also survive witcher potions / mutations.

>>715806858
Unless I'm wrong nobody has confirmed that it was established that she went through the trials of the grasses in the game. Witchers were created because standard humans lacked paranatural abilities necessary to compete with the malevolent creatures flooding our environment after the conjunction of the spheres. Ciri was born with paranatural abilities that already far exceed the capabilities of most witchers. It would be reasonable to make her a special case, and her living a witchers lifestyle and and being a professional monster hunter is not precluded by her failing to survive the trial of the grasses. Even if it turns out that she did, the fact that she is not a standard human could reasonably be assumed to be the reason she survived when other women died.

Either 3’s gameplay is so fucking retarded bad
>direct Gerald towards enemy
>HURR… GUH!!!
>enemy felled
“What the fuck is this shit”

>>715805596
Shes a woman, the process kills them
Secondly, WHY WOULD SHE DOWNGRADE? Ciri's powers completely outclass Geralt, she can do a fucking Judgement Cut End for christ sake

>>715804183 (OP)
Men can call themselves monsters.
Nobody wants to hear that shit from a hole.
She can call women monsters all she wants but unless she's a man she can keep her uneducated retard opinions to herself.
Simple as.

>>715807294
They 1000% will write that her elder blood powers were sapped by stopping the white frost and then you regain them slowly throughout the game by leveling up for gameplay reasons to stop her from being too OP

>>715806664
>in the books
Not a direct adaptation and the books are pretty bad.

>>715807193
Sure, you could make a case for that, but you'll forgive me for being incredulous when that is in contravention of an established precedent.

>>715807392
Perhaps, but this is merely the same sort of contrivances that any fictional story makes to progress its fictional content. This absolutist strict adherence to pre-established lore is irrational and completely ignores the rest of the plot that repeatedly establishes Ciri as an abnormal element in the story. Of course she's abnormal, she's related to interdimensional elves or something. What gave anyone the idea this universe had such strict rules about these things that not a single anomaly could ever exist?

>>715807220
I see your point, but I'd just ask why she has to then be such a similar "Witcher" to Geralt in the first place given her powers to begin with? Why make her a carbon copy to him in this next game as they so obviously are? Why not have her be unique and not so formally a Witcher?

Seems weird and forced to me still.

>>715807220
If she can drink potions without having a autistic seizure she went trough the trial

>>715807220
>Unless I'm wrong nobody has confirmed that it was established that she went through the trials of the grasses in the game.
She has the eyes of a Witcher suddenly. The only way she gets those is by undergoing the trials that cause the Witcher mutations. I am sure CDPR can make up some bullshit later after all the backlash, "No guys, she totally has these eyes all of a sudden for a different reason!" but until then it is safe for everyone to assume she has somehow undergone the Trial of Grasses, a process that was not just completely lost, but many of the mutating compounds don't even exist any longer on the world that the Witcher takes place on.

>>715804183 (OP)
Remember when /v/ shilled witcher 2 so hard that industry shills started posting about 4chan

still haven't bought a cdpr game

>>715807392
Yeah, those fuckers are unoriginal
They had the chance to give Ciri a action game, actual action not just bamham combat, similar to DMC
They lack vision
If they really wanted to have a female protag, why not make a character creator? Its another missed opportunity

>>715807220
>She's very special!
>Oh, she's also a full fledged witcher! Does everything a witcher can do, no exceptions!
>W-why are you panning her out of the gate!? Are you a BIGOT!?
I hate characters that are like this. The "I can do EVERYTHING!!!" shit just makes me not care. And then people get pissed when you express apathy because every female character is a forward step on the path to progress, so fucking tiresome

>>715807947
If you are going to abandon consistency and also have a major character undergo a 1 in a 1,000,000,000,000 chance of survival process "because she's an anomaly," then you might as well put in BMW 330i with optional heated seating, because, you know, it would be an anomaly in that world and who cares about consistency or logic.

>>715807951
Its basically the only life she'd ever known, and certainly the only lifestyle that suits her personality. Calling her a carbon copy of Geralt seems a bit premature. She wears the armor and the swords in the same fashion as the man who raised her. No surprise there. Once again what else was she supposed to do in her position? And what else could she have done that would have made a reasonable premise for a video game? Because yeah of course making a video game like the other Witcher games was kind of the point here in a meta sense. It's only contrived in the sense that progressing the story from the core trilogy's ending requires a contrivance to continue.

>>715807947
Consistency matters
If you break a rule, you need to be really, really fucking careful how you do it, and in this case it just felt unnecessary and contrived to begin with

>>715807947
>ugh like lore? ugh like just give it to some new writer and just use the character name that's all it takes
You should work for Hollywood. Your taste is absolute shit and you should feel ashamed.

>>715808651
I don't have an issue with her choices. I don't have an issue with her being unique. I have an issue with her muscling in on a niche suite of abilities she has no business having in the context of the story. She can do the job of the witcher without the eyes and the potions and just be Ciri, not another Geralt. Feels so lame to me.

>>715808842
Lore makes 80% of people's brains turn off. We were lucky to get lotr when most people consider it the nerdiest shit imaginable. Now the industry is flooded with fake nerd shit

>>715804183 (OP)
Didn't she NOT say that?

>>715808217
Ok, maybe maybe not. Again, Ciri is canonically an abnormal case. Abnormal outcomes are expected.

>>715808585
Master Chief should have died ten minutes into Halo: Combat Evolved. I can't take this game seriously anymore.

>>715806664
>He was fully manipulative
geez, I wonder why she believed him, maybe he manipulated her or something

>>715806858
not only this, but there was no reason for her to do this, since we've seen in Witcher 3 that she can solve her problems with just Elder Blood, she never needed the mutations, it's an unnecessary risk that Geralt and Yennefer would never allow her to take

>>715807220
Sebastian Kalemba, the director, affirmed she underwent the Trial of Grasses between 3 and 4

>>715807947
Abiding by established lore is a precondition for having a good story. Rules buttress a narrative and are adhered to in order to provide structure, if what you say is true we should all just use ChatGPT to make our narratives going forward. After all, who cares about narrative consistency, right?

>>715805596
Witcher mutations are extreme alterations to the whole human physiology and metabolism. They require a malleable body of a child, and even then the survival rate is well under 1/2. Adult body will just break instead of getting molded into a new shape. If she was a man, she would 100% die from this too.

But that's not even the point. The very plot point of her becoming a literal witcher is nonsensical and pointless. Considering W3's finale, it's not just magic shit, she's already stronger and more dangerous in physical combat than a mutant human, so it was just an act of completely pointless self-harm.

This decision deeks of design-by committee "make her have same attributes as previous main character so everyone will recognize and buy", I am convinced that there is no other reason.

>>715805038
>why is glorified fanfiction changing the lore?

>>715808470
yup definatley sounds like this shill shithole

>>715804183 (OP)
I honestly think the writers at cdprojektred don't even understand their own lore and the newer hires will take that statement literally and make a woke ass witcher 4 with dialed up feminist bullshit.

>>715805038
>so the question becomes "for what reason are they so disrespecting the source material?"
same reason they're doing it across all media, from Star Wars to the Olympics
it's about ruining something men enjoy, simple as
no further thought given than pic related

>>715804183 (OP)
When Geralt said it he meant men as in the race, both woman and man, when Ciri says it, she literally means only men.
Hope that clears it up for you my dimwitted friend

>>715804378
I always use cat school gear, but I never use the upgraded chest piece, because I like the vest/shirt combo.

>>715809163
I agree. Nothing has violated the "lore". You're just desperate to defend this semantics debate about who counts a "Witcher" and who doesn't. The notion that no woman of any sort could ever survive the trials of the grasses isn't a rule, its a belief that the characters in the narrative had given their best understanding of the conditions. Having one special character defy those conventions may be a narrative choice you don't care for but it isn't some kind of egregious violation. Its a pretty typical narrative for the main character to be special.

>>715804183 (OP)
>TW3: Finally Ciri's retarded mary sue story is over and we can focus on Geralt in the DLC *rumors of eventual custom witcher character game*
>2025: Ciri is the Witcher now because we got paid by blackrock and are creatively bankrupt
I quite literally wanted anything, absolutely anything, except for more ciri. I fucking hate ciri hell you could have me happy playing as one of the witch cunts for half a game but ciri? bro fucking why she's one of the worst written characters in any popular media literal sidequests drag their nuts over ciris entire plotline. The highlight of ciris plotline are all the parts that you get to experience when she's not fucking involved and nobody's talking about her. TW3 ending was fucking embarrassing I don't care if that's what was in the books it was awful.
>Create-a-Witcher 4
>Bitchfest Witchfest Witcher 4
>Witcher School sim
>Witcher Side Stories
dude anything works besides more dogshit ciri I fucking can't stand this stupid generic smarmy mary sue there are so many better women in just TW3 to feature as a base for a new game

>>715809071
>>Sebastian Kalemba, the director, affirmed she underwent the Trial of Grasses between 3 and 4

Fair enough. Why is it impossible for someone with "elder blood" from interdimensional space elves to survive the Trials? Can you please explain the scientific principles behind that? And then think about how ridiculous you would sound if you tried.

>>715809750
Ciri was already special, and now she's super duper special. She's probably a better witcher than Geralt due to her innate abilities, too! Maybe she can get another suite of powers before the game is over, so she can be even more amazing!!! The gamers would love that!

Reducing Ciri to an everything box is a bad narrative choice and if you were discussing this in good faith you'd recognize that.

>>715809750
>the lore is fictional
>therefore it should be no problem to declare that all witchers are furry futanari shemale hermaphrodites with shitting dicknipples in our next game
you technically CAN do it, but don't expect anyone to give you money for it

>>715809750
It's just dogshit writing dude. Bleach gave Ichigo every power in the universe and it was so incredibly shit, please don't encourage that behaviour here

>>715810131
That's not what happened. Pretty sure you pirated every game you ever played anyway. Don't have a 43rd playthrough of Kingdom Come to get back to or Stellar Blade?

>>715810359
Trying to defend nu-Ciri this hard is incredibly funny.

I, for one, would like Ciri to look directly at the camera and give the player a direct message of female empowerment after she witcher's the chud monster. That way I'll know when to stand and start clapping.

>>715810492
I'm sure it is to you, because you don't actually like video games.

>>715809750
Wasn't Ciri OP to begin with? Why hand her even more powers?

>>715810706
>"I don't like this narrative decision, and I think it's weird people are being so defensive about it."
>"Oh? So you hate all games then?"
Ok

>>715810597
They really need to supply a chastity cage with all sales of the game for m*les

>>715804378
viper and its not even close

>>715810043
It's not completely inexplicable, but it is still breaking a precedent for a character that was already pretty stacked as far as in universe power levels go. Did she need those abilities to be a serviceable protagonist? No. Then why break the precedent? Because she is a boss babe is my guess.

>>715810723
They didn't want to make a Geralt game. They wanted to make a Ciri game. Making Ciri a witcher probably came from an early brainstorming session where they were discussing the ending of 3 and why not just make her a full fledged witcher. Supposedly later in the books there are female witchers. I never read the books, because I heard they were retarded and I generally don't enjoy reading.

>>715810808
"You don't dislike/like x for the reasons you said, you like/dislike x for the reasons I said" This retardation seems to be more and more common.

>>715810359
>That's not what happened.
yeah I'm kind of understating it a bit, in fact furry herm shitting dicknipple witchers might appeal to enough fetishes to at least be commercially successful, though no more true to the spurce material

>>715811145
Why not keep the peas and carrots seperate? Seems like a wasted opportunity if nothing else

>>715811249
Oprah popularized it with her "LET ME TELL YOU WHAT YOU'RE THINKING" routine
at this point feminists really do believe they can make you think whatever they want you to think just by ordering you to think it like you're one of their onlysimps

>>715810808
>>715811249
Look if you think spending this much energy nitpicking every little aspect of the writing in these games is a legitimate use of your time I have no argument. It's your life to waste. I just think its pointless. If you want to never play another Witcher game again because its woke and gay now then do that. I still want more Witcher games so I'm not particularly concerned with some minor contrivances about Ciri's power creep in 3. I don't think these were political decisions and I don't care if you do.

>>715804378
Ursine > Wolven >>> Manticore > Viper >>>>> Feline >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Griffin

>>715804378
I grinded Ursine in all my runs.

>>715812546
how much energy do you think we're spending by posting on 4chan?
if anything you're the one spending all your energy malding over the fact Witcher 4 is going to crash harder than Netflix Witcher Season 4

>>715812546
Seems like you're the one writing dissertations, I just think you have shit taste

>>715811120
Power creep was probably the primary reason. Making an entire game with Ciri instant teleporting around probably didn't seem doable without essentially abandoning every aspect of what makes a Witcher game a Witcher game. "I lost all my powers and had to start over" isn't the most unique narrative choice, but its something many games often do for the sake of preserving the gameplay loop aspects that make it what it is. If the Witcher 4 started playing like Devil May Cry it might be a cool spectacle but it isn't a Witcher game anymore. That seems more pertinent than strict adherence to the trial of the grasses lore and so on.

>>715804183 (OP)
>I am ESL
The Internet was so much better before browns were given access.

>>715804183 (OP)
>there are no monsters here
>ONLY STRAIGHT WHITE MALES!!!!

>>715806172
You know one of the endings has her as Empress so she could do that I guess

>>715813161
Maybe it will. I guess since its fans only care about absolutely strict adherence to lore and are absolutely opposed to female protagonists of any kind it probably won't sell a single copy aside from the one I'll be buying. I'm here for the game part of the game and not the backstory. I guess I'm alone in that.

>>715813450
You probably hate everything. I can't enjoy a single thing on earth that wouldn't result in that accusation. I gave up being too cool for everything in high school. You apparently didn't .

How come the female characters in Cyberpunk 2077 are so ugly when the Witcher games have very beautiful female characters?

>>715804378
I choose Style.

>>715814126
>she says to the guys playing games with female protagonists that actually look female

>>715812546
>replies to >>715811249 saying exactly what the post said you would say
You really aren't a person are you?

>>715804253
>Geralt says "Men", he means "everyone"
>Ciri says "Men", she means "men"
But to be fair, you have to have a very high iq to understand wokies.

>>715814879
girl gamers cease to exist in single player games

>>715804378
Griffin and it's not even close

>>715804183 (OP)
>Ciri: "Ugh, men are such pigs"
what did she mean by this?

>>715804183 (OP)
>black guy: sup nigga
> : D
>white guy: what’s up nigga
> >: (
Make it make sense.

>>715804183 (OP)
yeah but when geralt says men he means people, and when a cunt says men she means men
but you wouldn't get it of course cause you're a cunt youself

>>715804183 (OP)
Not sure if you are stupid or just disingenuous like all the other Communists on this board but the reason they are saying it's going to be woke is because one of the rules of woketard rape of normal society is that... if you show white people in any way they must be old dying in pain or gay. So people are just freaking out at the signs they see. Pattern recognition.

>>715804183 (OP)
I won't be buying the Witcher 4. I don't like far left feminist propaganda

>>715806858
If a dude is pretty strong and good at killing monsters, can your average peasant tell him apart from an actual Witcher if its carrying around a medallion? Also we don't know what explanation they'll give for Ciri, she may just be carrying the title.

>>715804183 (OP)
I can't wait to play as her, Witcher bros.
>>715804378
Viper

>>715804378
Viper every single day.

>>715817284
all the witchers are now fat black niggers. have fun with your faggot ass shit dei propoganda

>>715804183 (OP)
How come no one has refuted OP?

>>715805596
Nta but even if it was canonically possible it just makes her look like a Mary Sue having elder blood powers AND surviving the trial of the grasses

>>715817492
I didn't see one nigger in the tech demo, that's a good sign

>>715804378
>when seeing the armour sets for the first time in a while makes me want to replay the fucking game
God damn those armour sets are god.

>>715810043
>Why is it impossible for someone with "elder blood" from interdimensional space elves to survive the Trials?
I don't care about that it's just dumb for Ciri to go through the trials when it's objectively a downgrade to go from potentially strongest sorceress in the world to a witcher.

>>715817686
We didn't see one in KCD2 either, until 2 weeks before release

>>715817492
Black men can be witchers.

>>715817686
it's project dei they'll shove that shit in where you won't see it before release. you know it'll be a propoganda piece

>>715817859
I wasn't talking about men. I was talking about black women

Game's just not worth your time, it's just as much slop as any gatcha at this point

this game is going to be fucking retarded and gay as fuck

>>715804378
i can't stand those studded black metal armguards
cringey

>>715814879
Your reasons for disliking things is vapid and pointless. I don't get as much of kick out of politicizing video games on the internet. I'm not sorry about it. Ciri is a witcher now because they wanted a witchers gameplay loop to continue. Yes its a contrivance. Don't play it if you care so much. I don't care if you think I'm gay and woke and transexual because I'll play a game you won't play. You can pretend whatever you want.

>>715804183 (OP)
Witcher 3 was always woke nonsense. Same with TLOU1. People just didn't realize it yet.

4chan be like: people are monsters, but only the gubmint and minorities I dislike. Radicalized “trad” socialist Muslims and heckin wholesome japs are good people!

>>715817785
If they leaned too hard into her abilities from 3 it'll trivialize the type of gameplay the game is meant to be. Certainly the other route is a possibility from a narrative perspective, but then the entire character of the gameplay would have to change around that as well. Both are perhaps flawed choices, but the one they made seems less so to me which is making a Witcher game about doing witcher stuff with a character from the original trilogy.

>>715819385
Then why even make a game about her when you have to nerf her in the most retarded of ways just to have it work?

>>715818495
it ain't woke until the devs start demanding that chuds stop playing their games
Witcher didn't go woke until the Netflix series started, TLoU was always woke, and there were even games like Dreamfall that went woke a decade ago

>>715819848
Yet another game focused around Geralt would have required even more contrivances, new villains, new challenges, new excuses to reset the power creep. Same problems, just more of them. Something had to give to facilitate the existence of another sequel at all. Otherwise the last game was perfect and that's it forever. The show either goes on or it ends. I don't see a better alternative.

>>715804378
Griffin armor with a mod

>>715804183 (OP)
>>715804253
When Geralt says it, the implication is that he's referring to the whole species
When Ciri says it, in todays political climate, the implication is that this is more feminist gender war stuff
>>715815005
this

>>715804378
Wolven armor and it's not even close.
Griffin would be so cool if it weren't for the color. Even when you could change it the grandmaster is ruined by a shit load of gold you can't get rid of.

>>715821514
Why it is impossible for her to mean it the same way Geralt meant it? Wouldn't it stand to reason that is the case when she's essentially quoting her own adopted father?

>>715818109
Ergo it will FLOP like Concord.