Thread 715840638

You are sent back in time and have full creative control of fallout 4. What do you change/not change? Why?

>remove the story in its entirety
>remove the xisterhood of cringe and all other factions
-no family
-no backstory
-you simply wake up in one of those freezetubes and go explore the wasteland
-silent protag
-no retarded dialogue options.
if only they had done this, the game wouldn't have been actively bad

and this is just removing shit, not even adding

Fire Emil, Fire Todd, bring back as much of the New Vegas crew as I can and make Fallout Louisana. Set the game 10 years before fallout 3 so there's no lore conflict with the new games. Sneed

>>715841142
>bring back as much of the New Vegas crew
You ruined the game. It's just a different flavour of shit now.

>>715841431
be silent bethesdrone

>>715840638 (OP)
Fire Emil and remove Todd from the project

>>715841471
Says the obisidiot.

>>715840638 (OP)
Put Obsidian in charge of it. Most of the guys who did NV were still working there in 2014.

more persons of color in the Minutemen

>>715841570
Operation human shield?

>>715840638 (OP)
Probably take as much money as I can from Bethesda and do a bunch of fentanyl. I'd tell the PR team to say "game's canceled, play new vegas and kill yourself" then I'd go do a bunch of fent and choke on my own saliva in the employee bathroom

>>715841553
>makes the outer worlds 2

>>715841615
Based George Floyd

>>715840638 (OP)
the entire main story as it was is gone
you wake up in the vault as normal but with no memories and make your character after finding a mirror
the game is now set 50 years after F3 to give the CoA more time to expand out from DC
the children of atom are now the main antagonists and the end-game area will be in the glowing sea where they have a series of bases
they've been wreaking havoc on the entire commonwealth, using irradiated creatures as attack animals and barrels of toxic shit to destroy settlements
main plot involves destroying them while you clean up and rebuild settlements along the way
settlements will actually slowly contribute supplies and armed militia to the effort, with raids back and forth between CoA and Minutemen outposts
eventually, once you've taken back enough territory and armed your militia with high-tier shit (power armor, gatling lasers, etc) you'll launch a huge raid on the Crater of Atom and kill everybody

the railroad and BoS are not present, instead we'll invent a few new factions
Diamond City gets a big expansion, holing more of the metropolitan area and being considered their own faction
raiders gangs are named and expanded
supermutants are gone because duh
bring in far harbor's fishmen mutants plus some new ones; a coastal city like boston needs them
skills are back, fuck the perk tree's incremental upgrades
armor and weapon modifications can stay but we're remodeling pipe guns to look closer to real handmade shit
we'll keep the garbage collection shit but increase the amounts you get from trash by about 5x (ie, 1 tin can is now worth 10 steel, not 2; no i don't give a fuck about realism)
bring back dual wielding, it was in skyrim, why the fuck was it shitcanned

there's probably more shit for me to fix but that's all i got for now

they could probably add more tours to bunker hill thel ittle girl can give me

>>715840638 (OP)
Completely get rid of the main plot and make survival mode a fully implemented part of the game from day 1.
Get rid of Story opening and have you drop from the cryo pod, make character, then get kicked out of vault with no idea how you got there or who you are. Vault self destructs after you leave it so you can never return.
No end game, just fuck around by exploring, looting, and surviving until you feel like you've done enough in that playthrough.

Railroad is entirely composed of synths and they have no idea about where the institute is or how they operate since all of their memories are wiped.
Institute is never revealed, they're a omniscient background threats that attacks and loots like raiders but with far greater efficiency. You can't stop them but if you build your settlements defenses up you can hold them back.
BOS show up but are as incompetent and self destructive as they always are, they're an enemy by default and you're stuck between them and the institute from beginning to end.
Minutemen if fully formed and functioning faction and you never get to lead them but you can trade things you grow/make at your settlements in return for protection.

What's with Fallout 4 threads recently? Something happen?

>>715842576
5 is offically in preproduction and Bethesda doesn't get to make it. We're excited

>>715841904
So far this is the best post in this thread.
What kind of new factions would you add and how would that GTA SA territory wars shit work? Also how do you expect dual wielding to be implemented in toddout? Would it just be for melee weapons or one handed firearms too? What kind of buffs and nerfs would that have to balance it out? Would you change VATS?

Remove crafting and settlements. Add more unique weapons. Add more lovecraftian quests.

>>715843148
1 optional buildable settlement would be enough. Make the Sanctuary build area 5 times bigger and leave it at that. Get rid of most of the stupid ass pipe guns and give us real fire arms. I don't want pipe rifles I want MG 42's and M14's. The lovecraftian stuff is important too. 4 wasn't scary enough.

>>715842684
>What kind of new factions would you add
Probably a big raider/mob faction that's been around a long time. Honestly, just co-opt the triggermen, make only the leadership pre-war ghouls and have them be an actual mob-like faction (focused on extortion, keeping a low profile, etc.).
Flesh Diamond City out better. Way more sidequests there. Have a whole storyline between the revived Minutemen and DC where you can choose from a few ways to deal with them (diplomatic, hostile takeover, annihilation, etc.). The end goal is destroying the CoA so a second large faction to help with supplies would be great.
Then probably some coastal thing, a faction that's been using the Charles River and ocean to move around supplies, keeping a bunch of settlements with makeshift lighthouses around the area.
>and how would that GTA SA territory wars shit work
In an ideal world, I'd love to have a full-on map with all the major factions controlling different territories with alliances and shit. Realistically though, just make it a simple line of "minutemen settlements vs CoA settlements". Once you've taken back X number of settlements, things change. The war keeps getting nastier. Different settlements should have different priority levels for the CoA to recapture should they lose them. Defense values shouldn't affect how likely they are to attack but rather how many guns they bring to do so.
>Also how do you expect dual wielding to be implemented in toddout?
Just keep it to 1H melee and pistols. It was already in Skyrim, just keep it. You could use two melee, one melee one magic, etc. You could go full pirate with a sword in one hand and a pistol in the other.
>Would you change VATS?
Just go back to the F3/NV full timestop. That's it. I don't know why they changed it anyway. Makes it a lot harder to shoot grenades out of the air.

>>715843532
What about crafting and settlement building? Would the player have to micromanage all those settlements or are they taken care of by the ruling faction and just spend resources on upgrades but without playing lego with shitty collision boxes?

>>715840638 (OP)
The best game ever made by Bethesda

>>715844553
Doesn't mean much when the competition is toddrym and toddfield.

>>715840638 (OP)
Way less town building. There was too many.
Make it more realistic like the realism mods.
Less blowing America.

>>715844650
Some may argue that Toodout 3 New Vegas is better, but they're objectively wrong.

>>715844712
I won't argue about which turd smells the best.

>>715840638 (OP)
Make it on a different engine. Delay it so its on the next gen.

>>715842662
If I did not enjoy 1&4 are 2&3 worth playing?

>>715844764
>Make it on a different engine
Billion dollar company, plis understand.

>>715844831
Of course not.
2 is just more of 1 and 3 is objectively inferior to 4.

>>715844831
Yes

>>715844760
Because you have no taste buds. You should see a doctor for that.... and your unchecked AIDS

>>715840638 (OP)
Changed the gun designs
This is the only unforgivable sin of Fallout 4

>>715840638 (OP)
- Remove the Shaun plotline, its so dogshit.
- Keep the institute and the idea of synths could be anyone, but make it a side quest / faction quest. There being a "boogeyman" in the area is cool and seeing the occasional synth adds mystery.
- Make the synth's more like hidden mini-boss', think elden ring, you kill a dude and oops its actually a big ass rune bear.
- Make settlements actually useful and semi automated from the start.
- Add in a settler menu where you can designate people to jobs or other locations
- Add seasons and seasonal missions to settlements; winter is coming so you need fur, leather and wood to warm people up.
- Add a mainline story reason to have settlements and have them be part of the final act somehow, maybe evil faction starts raiding them
- Add more whimsy, NV was memorable for the bonkers shit they did more than the; its bleak bro shit.
- Power Armor is always end game, so make more varied types of power armor for more styles of play.
- Overhaul the companion system, allow you to level them up and assign perks, so you can build your ultimate friend, that can also complement your play style, exactly as you want it to be
- More interesting map locations, I can only remember like 4 truly cool spots.

>>715840638 (OP)
Vanilla Assaultron companion with sex and upgrades. Make all Assaultrons at least twice as fat in the ass area.

>>715840638 (OP)
>Shoot emil and dump the body straight to the nearest garbage bin
>Write design document for fallout 4
>Put silent protagonist in there
>Remove finding someone/something story that always been in bethesda game
>Add more shotgun because I like shotgun
>Hire myself a better sound studio because those steel-tube sound effect that always echoing across boston is annoying as fuck
>Remove reddit level up system in the game and replace it with traditional character sheet
>Add class based gameplay and also starting point akin to those mod where you can start as raider, trader, vault dweller, etc.
>Add more companion to the game
>Remove linearity
>Refine the entire faction and their storyline
And some other stuffs

>>715845115
>>Add more shotgun because I like shotgun
How much shotgun is too much shotgun?
How to make the based double barrel a viable choice end game?

>>715845223
I want a super hydraulic solar powered 10 barrel 1 Gauge.

>>715845042
The lack of seasonal change really hurt 4. They had a chance to do something cool with winter snow.

>>715845362
I'm fine with a 4 bore double barrel.

>>715845414
Snow is gay. I don't want gay in my games.

>>715844760
Why are Slavs Like this?

>>715845223
>How to make the based double barrel a viable choice end game?
Its always been a viable choice in endgame doe, but you need to get it via rng in irradiated zone and not crafting or buying from some merchant

>>715845223
Cold Shoulder in fo76 is very viable as it adds ice/slowing effect

>>715845501
Inbreeding, low IQ, an extra 21st chromosome, fetal alcohol syndrome... All the above

>>715845115
Why the fuck can't I play as a synth, super mutant, or ghoul like in Skyrim. Imagine if choosing to be a super mutant would instantly make the BOS hostile to you. So many different role playing opportunities wasted.
>>715845043
thread

>>715845521
>>715845558
>mmo legendary
I sleep.

>>715845489
Beat the game before winter then
>>715845501
We're the dumbest most niggertier white people. We have the most beautiful women though so it all balances out in a way.

>>715845709
>humiliating himself for some burgermutt
You disgust me.

>>715845842
I am a burgermutt I'm half Irish and half Czech

>>715844430
Personally I'm a fan of settlement building so I want total control but I know some people enjoy Sim Settlements. I don't really have a way of solving that dilemma. I guess in this alternate timeline we'll just hope that the guys who made Sim Settlements still do so. Or make that the Wasteland Workshop DLC instead of it just being a few conveyors.

>>715845709
>We have the most beautiful women
MtF "women" are not women, CHUD

>>715840909
fpbp I second this

>>715841904
Should of been Fallout 4

>>715845983
agreed

>>715845842
Leaf actually. Just tired of the Slavic shit obsession.

>>715840638 (OP)
no more durability/repair tedium mechanic
every structure you build snaps to a grid
full heal after sleeping
cryo gun nerfed, ammo less rare

>>715843490
>1 optional buildable settlement would be enough
Yes

>>715846072
power armor is the only thing with durability and you already heal from sleeping

>>715846386
No

>>715846421
I heal from ramming my fat cock in Pipers ass too.

>>715846516
Piper sexo minigame

>>715846570
YES!

>>715846439
Yes building shit is lame I want to shoot people

>>715846516
>>715846570
With or without the hat?

>>715846907
Without hat when doggy style so I can pull her hair when she starts squirting .
With hat when shes riding on top.

>>715840638 (OP)
I reimagine Fallout 3 and call the game Fallout 34, which is to say the game doubles as Fallout 4 and a remake of Fallout 3 combined, but as a new game. You can start in a vault, in the pit, or as a brotherhood member, you can unlock ghoul start and enclave start. More replayability. There's a lot more stuff going on for the game experience too. Such as new quests after expanding Megaton, and you can actually play constructionist and customize it. You can make decisions on what to do with the atom bomb and the cult of atom, and that changes other people's disposition namely Moira Brown who will frown upon you. You can convince brotherhood of steel to help in construction and expansion, in exchange for the atom bomb for instance, persuading them it's a vaulable asset to use against the enclave. If your radiation gets too high you permanently turn into a ghoul the rest of the playthrough, it's way more expensive to remove rads, and radaway is rare and valuable. All kinds of changes if I were in charge, the goal of making the perfect Fallout game.

Remove Shaun and the whole family background.
Silent protagonist.
A few more survivors thaw out in vault 111. They come with pre-war education and skills, can be useful later on.
The Institute kidnapped multiple adults and children from the vault in the span of several decades. The game starts when remaining pods release their occupants due to some accident or a built-in deadline.
You need to build a settlement in Sanctuary because the vault had zero supplies left and was never supplied with a G.E.C.K. Preston's crew can be allowed to join under the condition they will help with orientation of vault dwellers.
Settlement system is expanded with animal husbandry. No more forced veganism.
Longneck Lukowski's cannery becomes an important piece of infrastructure connected to farming settlements. The Minutemen and the BoS can take over it to help with food preservation and distribution across entire Commonwealth. Alternatively you can spare Lukowski and sell him out to the Triggermen if your character is criminally inclined.
Saugus Ironworks becomes a similar industrial objective.
Coastal settlements can build functional wharfs that offer fast travel, link up workshops and generate profits from trading. It's possible to rival the Bunker Hill's monopoly.
BoS ending doesn't require nuking the Institute. The staff is murdered like scientists in Mariposa (FO1), any useful, non-malicious tech is salvaged, then the place is sealed and flooded for good measure.

>>715840638 (OP)
Nothing, seeing as it and 76 are the only Fallout games people still play.

Make it isometric

>>715848459
>more pre war people survive
>not making it about pre war civilised people hating the savages and purging the wasteland with fire and fury while having non stop sex to increase their numbers
>game ends with them being contacted by the enclave
>>715848658
73th post best post

>>715848658
>>715848732
Made by Larian

>>715848828
How about no?

>>715840909
this is just frost THO. i got 150 hours out of it but it gets boring just the same.

I'd get rid of the radiant system

https://rentry.org/FO4LW

>>715849029
Fallout 5 but like super gay.

>>715849312
How does all that mod soup look like during the day?

>>715841523
you really had to reach for that one huh?
obsidian has only one game in fallout and the people who made it are all gone.

Make it fallout 76 but offline singleplayer.

>>715840638 (OP)
This would be risky but considering in hindsight people find 76's bestiary more interesting I think 4 should've done away with the deathclaws and radscorpions. New mutants all around, new factions.
>How will this connect to the previous games?
Besides some returning weapons and chems I think I'd want the east coast to feel like a breath of fresh air. Also I think they should have held onto the old SPECIAL system. Perks too. Don't take away more RPG elements from an RPG, Fallout 3 did enough of that. Go the Deus Ex route where your bullets will hurt regardless of skill level but your accuracy is affected

>>715840638 (OP)
Just play 76 brehs.

>>715849457
Depends on weather but guy who made the ENB clearly tweaked it for darkness, brighter scenes often look too washed out for my taste but I'm done trying to further mod it

fire the animators, writers, and designers
hire literally anyone else
fix the gunplay and make it better since thats the whole game
add survival elements
make it take place in the north west and not in boston (faggot emil made it take place there because he's from boston)
oh yeah and fire emil

>>715849606
With pancake monsters

>>715851387
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abwdDrohI2Q

>>715840638 (OP)
it doesn't matter because 3/NV already turned the franchise into FPS slop. making 4 a CRPG is too unrealistic even in this unrealistic scenario where i go back in time and get full creative control over FO4.

>>715841862
I can't breathe or find my son

>>715840638 (OP)
Lean harder into settlement building as the core gameplay mechanic. Make it your mission to rebuild Boston - repair the power plants, the power lines, the broadcast towers, the satellite dishes, the sewers, water treatment, repair all the buildings, get all the cars working - in short, rebuild civilization.

>>715852969
>the satellite dishes
I don't think any of the satellites still work after more than 200 years. Part of them would be zapped with EMP from nukes detonated at high altitudes. Others would eventually deorbit and burn on entry into the atmosphere.

Rewrite the entire origin story, as it is boring and unsalvageable in every way. You are the last (known) survivor of a scout team from a nearby town that is being forced to evacuate its people from an inevitable but not especially immediate invasion from the Gunners (more on them later), and you are laying the groundwork for them to re-establish themselves in the Commonwealth.

This ties heavily into the settlement system, which becomes taller rather than wider. The awful building system is scrapped and the number of settlements is cut by at least two thirds. Instead, you will select development plans and options that affect your character build and how you interact with the world. You will be the one to build Diamond City.

Goodneighbor is expanded into a more significant faction, controlling more of the city and playing rival to your expansion in the early and mid game. The Railroad is rolled into the Minutemen, which still control their fort while providing protection to outlying settlements and are far less useless, but still generally in over their heads against the gangs and monsters of the Commonwealth. The BoS is drastically reduced and will not be appearing in force. The Institute is mostly the same, except your visits to them will result from undercover ops around the halfway point; they plan to kill everyone above and there can be no peace with them. The Gunners are an expansionistic and vicious supergang with tons of military equipment due to plundering old military bases, and they are on a steady campaign to brutally conquer and dominate the entire region.

The Institute and Gunners are your primary opposition in the mid and endgame; caught between a rock and a hard place, as it were. You will not be picking which faction wins anymore, because you already have your own. The lesser factions offer missions early and later they can be made into allies, vassals, or just ignored; they can also be wiped out and plundered at any time.

>>715852969
>rebuild civilization
Civilization? I'll stay right here

>>715840638 (OP)
Power armor is really awesome in Fallout 4. The only thing I would change would be making it even more over-powered to make fusion core looting worth the hustle. The armor should have been rare, though.

As far as shit I hated, it's a lot to change. From the pastel buildings to the awful skill system. Everything about this game reeks of mediocrity. Something I liked about Morrowind and Fallout 3 is that those games had never been done before. Full scale immersive open worlds that allowed you to be anyone. Fallout 4 should have scaled it up, like the GTA franchise, or add in gimmicks, like the Zelda franchise. Doing the same game, but removing RPG elements just made Fallout 4 boring. Fable 3 did the exact same thing and it killed Lionhead. If it wasn't for the Microsoft acquisition, I imagine Bethesda would have bankrupted themselves.

I scrap the entire fallout idea entirely and make TES6 instead

>>715854923
Very gay!

>>715840638 (OP)
the only thing I never liked about fo4 was the institute and its nonsensical motivations. I'd remove all kellogg segments from the game and re-write the institute into a fanatical transhumanist AI-worshiping cyborg cult instead which would make the synths make sense. when you get in they'd immediately reveal that it's been 50 years or whatever and all talk about what a great a job shaun is doing as leader and you'd hear his voice over the loudspeakers giving announcements and see his face speaking on terminals around the complex, but never actually meet him, and the twist at the end would be that he had been integrated into the AI overlord that they all worship because something something pure pre-war brain required, and you could choose to end his suffering or with some skill checks free him and he'd become a companion.

>>715855020
fallout as a concept was never interesting to me and I'd rather work on something I actually like

>>715849620
i did. it felt like a psuedo-mmo GAAS slopper rather than an actual fully realized video game.

>>715855113
I've always liked fallout more personally but TES6 would be cool too, just yankin' your chain.

>>715855187
haha ok

>>715840909
>-you simply wake up in one of those freezetubes and go explore the wasteland
why didn't they actually do that

>>715849312
>>715850034
>woah dude, it's liek stalker gamma!

>>715841904
>the game is now set 50 years after F3
oh fuck off
rest of your ideas are fucking shit too

>>715840638 (OP)
Fire the art director and whichever retard designed the weapons

>>715843490
>Get rid of most of the stupid ass pipe guns
no, they need to triple down on the pipe guns. every firearm in the game should be a nigger-rigged piece of shit made by someone who barely understands how guns work. functional pre war guns should be mythical end game weapons you get get from raiding the few vaults that are still locked up. this is 200 years after the apocalypse, the local machine gun factory isnt in working form

Make power armor more difficult to maintain/harder to find power fusion cores
No voiced protag
No retarded looking pipe guns (the makeshift type weapons are cool though)
Build the game around survival mode from the get-go and have a robust system like 76 and don't make it an afterthought
Less emphasis on Minutemen
Let me build a base at least anywhere there's an empty spot (like Starfield did)
Bring back ammo crafting and ammo type selection find a way to integrate with the junk crafting system
Don't personally care about the story it was dogshit but I wasn't playing the game for it. Let Emil write a game where you're looking for your wife's son for all I care just don't do whatever the Frontier people did

>>715857173
>this is 200 years after the apocalypse
Exactly, they've built new machine gun factories already.

>>715855934
because fo4 is a logical continuation of fo3

fo3 is the rise of ecbos, fo4 is the apex and stagnation of ecbos.

it follows similar cadence as ncr in fo2 and ncr in fonv.....

>>715840638 (OP)
>You are sent back in time and have full creative control of fallout 4. What do you change/not change? Why?
Nothing, no notes, it's an amazing game.

Add a couple of proper made, pre-war firearms that actually use .38 ammo natively.
I know you can convert quite a few guns to use .38, but it's always shit me that this ubiquitous ammo is used only by guns mainly manufactured after the war.

Every Fallout game is the same.
Interesting premise and world to explore.
Dogshit embarassing writing so bad you may as well mute and skip it all.

I dont understand how writing continues to be so bad in video games

>>715840638 (OP)
No voiced protag
Only really worked for the silver shroud questline anyway

Make it isometric

>>715840638 (OP)
>Change
Completely rework the setting and story to somewhere in the South East part of the US probably FL but still connect the game to Fallout 76

Remove both the Minutemen/Railroad factions and replace them with Responders/Enclave
Move all of the mechanics from Fallout 76 into Fallout 4 MINUS the Atomic Shop and online shit like Fallout 1st etc: but still include OPTIONAL CO-OPERATIVE play or PvP in a session if you are reading this and dislike it then cry about it you fucking spastic retard ..
Bring back Weapon Durability from FO3/NV/76 BUT tweak it so guns don't break after a few minutes of usage and use the same repair system as 76 using materials stored in workshops/C.A.M.P's. I'm thinking of repairing weapons every few hours in game like 3-6 hours of non stop usage would break the gun higher difficulties would make it go below 3 hours etc:

Overhaul Settlement Building so that it functions like C.A.M.P's along with Workshops

>>715857173
>functional pre war guns should be mythical end game weapons you get get from raiding the few vaults
Should be reserved for unique weapons, or high-tech ones like the Tesla Cannon, Bozar, Red Glare, SMMG, etc.
>no, they need to triple down on the pipe guns.
You can have rugged utilitarian and cheaply made firearms without making them look like shit, which the F4 pipe guns do but so does every other fucking gun in the game.
>the local machine gun factory isnt in working form
in a game where you can make factory production lines