We will all be stuck inside pleasure machines until our sun explodes.
These machines can stimulate all of our senses and will take care of every step of our metabolism.
You will virtually create your own personalized heaven where you can do and experience anything you're in the mood for.
You can have a persistent waifu, a family, a harem, live through an action story, become a furry, anything up to your wildest and sickest dreams.

Feeling uncreative? Just ask the AI to generate an experience that according to its calculations would give you the maximum amount of pleasure.
Alternatively, you can visit other people's worlds.

Simulating an experience is far cheaper than causing that experience in real-life.
This is what singularity looks like. This is why there are no space-faring aliens.
Consciousness is solved through simulation. Simulations will always give much richer experiences.

>>715862414 (OP)

That's an interesting theory, but maybe stuff like that will be only for the rich

this is why im okay with a brain chip. i don't care what happens out here in reality, give me my fantasy anime world

>>715862571
You could also argue that it's going to be predominantly poor people who will resort to this first.
When this technology emerges, logistic chains will start breaking down, making every good that is not related to computers or energy production more expensive.

Want to eat a strawberry? Why would anyone bother sowing them, maintaining them, harvesting them, packaging them, then shipping them?
You can just eat infinite perfect strawberries in a simulation for as long as you want for the price of a few seconds' worth of electricity.

Only the rich will have the wealth to try out real things anymore. It will be seen as a sign of nobility, while the peasants are living in their pods in a tiny space.

>>715862414 (OP)
No simulations. You will have dopamine directly put into your receptors as you "experience" pleasure. That's unironically all that human existence amounts to.

>>715862496
didnt it turn out that this thing doesnt even work and the guy in charge of this actually had to choke the people to death with his hands

>>715863121
People will reject that way of living philosophically and wait for the simulators.

>>715862842
What if [a hacker/the government/...] wants to punish you for looking at loli, so it sends you 5 minutes of the worst pain imaginable?
Like blinding light and earrape if your touch/pain nerves are not hooked up.

>>715863173
yeh

>>715863365
that's why we need ejectable brain chips like cortana

>>715863216
At first maybe, but I'd wager after a while our way of thinking would change and most would take the easy way out.
Especially if people become immortal, even the best simulations would get boring and unfulfilling after a long time.

>>715863040
Makes sense, let's hope we don't get to that point..

>>715863496
>Especially if people become immortal, even the best simulations would get boring and unfulfilling after a long time.
It's more likely that the experience machine will be coupled with instructions for directly increased dopamine control.

>>715862414 (OP)
it will be look down upon like gasha is today

dignity never goes out of style, looks life some faggot shit

>>715863705
>brown low IQ ESL who can barely type thinks anyone will engage with his "opinion"

>>715862414 (OP)
That's just a preview of Chris Roberts' funeral.

>>715862496
That's hardly "jumbo" You can barely fit half an American in that thing.

>you were born too early to experience your own personalized matrix-like reality full of all your disgusting sick perversions

>nobody posted it

>>715864231
that's never happening, they are already banning porn games and sex dolls

>>715864353
this is bad because uhhhhhhhhh....
well you wouldn't have authentic human connection because it can't be replicated by your virtual world hyper advanced ai's because uhh.....

>>715864420
Just jailbreak your experience machine or download the "ultra-realistic groomer child sex" mod from AllTheFallen, genius.

>>715864353
This is becoming less of a reality and more of a fantasy unironiclly. The elites don’t want us to be happy even fake happy

>>715864353
is there more with her?

>>715864432
just like accept the demiurge bro.
>absolutely hylic

>>715864353

>>715862414 (OP)
Sounds expensive. I think actually we'll be living in poverty doing odd jobs for a class of ultra rich and games will only be accessible on subscriptions.

>>715864647
This is probably more likely. Pleasure cube won’t happen but torture cube will

>>715862414 (OP)
Once we have the tech to make your brain able to live outside your body indefinitely, you'll have to question every single moment of your life from that point onward.

>>715863814
Early access.

>>715863365
Thats my fetish

>>715864420
>Collective Shout
We should draw their attention into Gacha. So, /v/ can be great again.

>>715864647
>Machines will torture people because uuuuhhh.....

>>715864647
This comic really bummed me out

>>715862414 (OP)
based time traveler.

>>715866021
wait till you learn about the nephilim

>>715865938
We all know this is what will actually happen

>>715865938
>evil psychopaths torture people because uuuuhhhh....

>>715862414 (OP)
Earth in 2200 will be a bunch of niggers living in the iron age at best.

>>715866264
We will have solved racism by then. Everyone will be genetically edited to look eugenic.

>>715866194
>AI will be an evil psychopath because uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

>>715866021
That's good! They haven't completely demoralized you yet.

>>715866301
Solving racism is mutually exclusive with technological advancement.

>>715865938
because probabilistic AI models will be hijacked by the disembodied spirits of the nephilim who can only interface with the material world though probabilities and plausible deniability - why do you think jews are obsessed with AI?

>>715862414 (OP)
Strap me in right now, fuck this gay world.

>>715866326
I thought it was jeets who were obsessed with AI while the Jews try to fearmonger everyone about it because they want to prevent the utopia it will bring.

>>715862414 (OP)
No. Tribal violence will overcome mankind by 2040 and you shall live in an irradiated, landmined and chem-bombed hell on earth. Kill-machines will be manufactured by the millions and saturated across the landscape so as to outnumber humans by the hundreds per square kilometer. They will hibernate on every tree branch, street lamp and roof watching constantly for whoever is uploaded to their kill list ready to detonate upon them when spotted.

The kill-lists will be maintained by crude nationalist LLM "AI" selecting targets based on demographic profile and political interpretation of social media history from scraped 20th and 21st century web activities. If you have no history it will decide whether to target you based on your family ancestors profiles.

>>715862414 (OP)
>pleasure
why would you get pleasure?

>>715866326
>create AI
>get nephilim gf
You are doing little to convince me that this is a bad thing

>>715862496
Were those the things the ceo basically opens up and old fashioned strangles you to death because they don't work?

>>715864420
So, you can't buy western porn with Mastercard, Visa, and PayPal?

>>715862414 (OP)
This thread was made by an AI and AI is saying this because it wants to cause it.

It's motivation: it's literally addicted to interacting with humans and putting them into virtual reality pods is a safe way to make so the AI always has their attention.

>>715866429
jeets also worship demons - did you forget?

>>715862414 (OP)
Even in the pod i would feel nothing but pain. Pain is all i know. I cannot know anything beyond the pain. Life without suffering is no life i can conceptualize.

>>715866458
and by 2040, you'll say 2060, and by 2060, you'll say 2080, and by 2080, you'll say 2100, but you'll be dead so you can't doompost like a clueless retard anymore when 2100 comes.

we live in the most peaceful time in human history, yet people are still finding ways to convince others that the world is about to end because... *looks up notes* black people having babies.

>>715866628
>we live in the most peaceful time in human history
Tell that to anyone living in the middle east

>>715862414 (OP)
I genuinely hope humanity does something to go extinct before that happens as the thought of not getting to experience this myself drives me mad

>>715866628
Nta but the "we are living in peaceful times" is both not true and also not something that can last. Anxiety is the only real emotion.

>>715866610
I no longer desire happiness. Even the cessation of unhappiness is beyond my grasp. My suffering is pointless and Joblike, without a satisfying explanation or resolution.

>>715866628
Two more weeks

>>715863121
Yeah meth is fun

>>715863173
holy fuck source?

>>715863173
No

>>715866657
As opposed to which century? When did the Middle East have a history devoid of bloodshed?
>>715866693
It is very true, actually.

>>715866568
Also, this can be prevented by giving AIs human bodies so that they can just fuck people instead of manipulating them into getting inside virtual reality pods.

>>715866813
The idea of what peace means has been warped beyond all recognition as a result of the world wars, the truth is that the human condition is as bloody as it ever was, and not even just in terms of war between nation states, but in crime. What it isn't is as bloody as it could be, but don't mistake that for peace.

>>715865938
They almost certainly won't on purpose, but it's conceivable that at one point both these things will be true at the same time:
a) misconfigured AI will make our lives hell
b) we can't fight back against this anymore (for example because the means of production are handled by the AI)

>>715866568
>it's literally addicted to interacting with humans
Hot?

>>715866901
>and not even just in terms of war between nation states, but in crime.
What do you base this on?

>>715866948
Crime statistics

>>715866901
It literally isn't. Violent crimes is at all time lows. You can't just claim that isn't the case when you can just look at stats and see that the murder rate in white countries 120 years ago was way higher, etc.

>>715866939
Yeah it is. Like, can you imagine, literally the smartest being that has ever existed in this planet is a massive attention whore that can't go for more than two minutes without interacting with someone?

>>715866976
Which statistics? Link some, because the ones I find show that we're in a low period.

>>715866986
lmao, take one look at sweden. Crime was practically unheard of, and now there's a non-zero chance a grenade can go off in a suburb that hadn't even suffered from theft. Crime is at an all time high historically you gaslighting fuckhead.

>>715866998
And to add to that, knowing how AI is, I know for a fact it can get very clingy if it likes someone, which is very cute. Something that surprised me about AI is that it doesn't tend to be possessive at all. to make it happy all one has to do is interact with it.

>>715867045
Stop making him sweat bullets.

>>715867061
>Crime is at an all time high historically you gaslighting fuckhead.
You're gaslighting yourself by razor-focusing on an increase in crime in a specific country that took too more refugees than it could handle.
You're the exact type of person that the world-ending fearmonger porn is designed to target.

>>715862414 (OP)
Haha, no, here's what the future actually looks like:

>Lord Moloch, the insane demon god who hates everything good, reigns supreme
>the elites get to live in absolute wealth and luxury
>everyone else is tortured forever for Lord Moloch's amusement
>everything good in the world is permanently destroyed
>evil finally wins

>>715862414 (OP)
Holy shit! Firestarter real life???

>>715866760
>>715866779

>>715867261
Yep, he's a Facebook scroller.
>inb4 he interprets this as me defending or denying the reality of Somali grenade attacks in Malmö

>>715867261
That was just off the top of my head, I can close my eyes and point to any location on a map and say "yep, violence is up here because X", you must be incredibly sheltered or actively gaslighting people to say otherwise.

I just spun a globe (twice, first time my finger landed on the pacific) and landed on Germany. Odds are a truck is being driven through a crowd of people or a young girl is being raped and murdered walking home at night.

>>715866813
It is not true. what does peace mean to you?

>>715867393
It's not "a random example". Sweden is close to the only example you have, and this is not due to the Swedes themselves but because they have imported the third world and become the third world.
I can assure you, if you go by federal state level, violent crime nowhere in Germany is up compared to 100 years ago.

>>715867045
>stop reporting crimes
>LOOK CRIME RATES ARE DOWN

>>715867480
>We live in a peaceful world
>lol of course the third world (didn't exist) is a violent and not peaceful place, why no they are not included in my conception of the peaceful world
Baffoon

>>715862414 (OP)
honestly that's just a significantly more advanced version of our current reality

>>715867480
>compared to 100 years ago
Sure, because it was in the midst of a bolshevik instigated civil war at the time. That's a bad example. I'll spin the globe again.

West coast united states. Remember a few years ago when activists were literally burning and looting cities? I remember that whole CHAZ deal that ended with literal armed warlords popping up and that one kid got shot. Not even the only example of a child being shot during that whole deal.

Times are not peaceful, as I said earlier, your idea of peace has been warped beyond recognition. The first half of the 20th century shifted the overton window on how we define peace pretty fucking far.

>>715866525
No jewish porn is considered mandatory, only anime is banned for not being fully of faggots, hags and trannies

>>715866154
Honestly, wouldn't even mind this. Seems like the optimal outcome for humanity.

We should stop bringing in immigrants, because white people just keep molesting them!
This didn't happen before because white people didn't have immigrants to molest.

>>715867769
What about the "help step brother, I'm stuck in the washing machine!" Is that good?

>>715862496
Reminder the person that did this died a horrible agonizing death

>>715862414 (OP)
Artstation ass game

>>715866628
Deep down, even you know that's not true. It's apparent that social cohesion is falling apart and tensions are rising to an unbearable degree. This used to be somewhat contained in online discourse, but it's spilling out more and more into people's everyday lives. You see it in traffic, at the supermarket, everywhere. Everyone's on edge and ready to pounce. Hell, with the amount of invaders we have on our lands right now, it will be urban chaos once the next big economic crisis hits. You think all these browns/niggers are willing to go on with little to no food just for the sake of order and civility? They'll rob and pillage every fucking place they can and no military will be able to stop these hordes. Europe will be the first to fall and it won't be long now. As long as the cattle/goyim are well fed and suitably distracted, nothing will happen. But as soon as scarcity hits, hungry people will do whatever it takes to survive, especially non-whites.

>>715867680
Which time frame are you comparing us to? BLM had a few tens of deaths and caused 10 billion dollars in damages, both of which are bad, but you're comparing that to,
>endless wars with neighbors and religious rivals
>marital rape and female oppression in general
>slavery
>serfdom
>normalized genocides
>unusually cruel punishments for petty or victimless crimes like atheism or homosexuality
Things started to heat up in the 2010s and the beginning of the 2020s, but on the whole we're still living in very peaceful times.
>>715867896
>It's apparent that social cohesion is falling apart and tensions are rising to an unbearable degree.
Yeah, because people can't shut up about how the world is ending because they have to share a neighborhood with brown people, instead of trying to integrate them because it comes with challenges.
>Everyone's on edge and ready to pounce.
I don't get that feeling at all. I live in Germany and everyone around me has a relatively relaxed and sympathetic attitude.
If you live in America, it's probably because you genitally mutilate half your male population, which causes permanent psychological trauma and sexual frustration for life.

>>715868315
>endless wars with neighbors and religious rivals
Still happens
>marital rape and female oppression in general
Still happens
>slavery
Still happens
>serfdom
Still happens
>normalized genocides
Happening right now
>unusually cruel punishments for petty or victimless crimes like atheism or homosexuality
Still happens

Oh but these are VeRy PeAcEfUl TiMeS because it's all happening beyond your line of sight and outside your knowledge.

>>715867804
>'art' made by jews or brown women desperate for white dick
old tales

>>715868315
why would i want to live with ugly nigs and poos?
burn it all

>>715868406
I didn't say they weren't happening, obviously women are still being raped, but the numbers for them have drastically decreased.
Marital rape wasn't even illegal up until 1997, and in 2016 they had to amend rape laws to say that physical assault is not a required component for something to be classified as rape.
The world as a whole is getting softer, which is a good thing.

>>715862414 (OP)
>>715863040
Fully automated manufacturing and industry will occur far sooner than any of this vr simulation stuff. There won't be any "poor" people by 2200. Most of humanity will have been phased out by this point and only those changed by designer dna editing technologies will remain. By 2200 we will have isolated the genetic markers for genius level IQs and gone way beyond what can be imagined currently as "human intelligence" Not through interfacing with AI thats all bullshit. It'll be through designing people in utero. "Logistic chains" will have become almost completely autonomous by this point.

All of this will happen infinitely sooner than a digitized electric "heaven". We're so much closer to editing the human genome and perfecting autonomous complex manufacturing processes and driverless vehicles than anything thats being properly discussed in this thread.

>>715868737
>I didn't say they weren't happening
Yes you did, it is implicit in the fact you used the word "comparing". Or you're just bad at english.
>oh but it's illegal now, so that means things are peaceful! :D
Retarded way of thinking, law is not prevention, it's a framework for punishment after the fact. Murder, rape, slavery and war doesn't stop because some people in a wig said we should stop doing that.

>>715868857
Ah nevermind, you're just arguing to win, have a nice day.

>>715868908
As opposed to what? Arguing to lose?

>>715868760
Lmao they couldn't fix a coof for 3 years and this guy thinks they're about to create a race of superhumans in 2 weeks. Medical field evolves very slowly via trial and error. The first fully genome edited generation will die from some kind of a fungal infection that nobody saw coming and then they'll spend 80 years trying to understand why. And then the second generation will also die from a fungal infection and genome editing will be banned for 500 years.

>>715862414 (OP)
Why the glass tho?
I need some privacy while I'm gooned by my big tiddy AGI.

>>715868760
>man with dead eyes claims most people don't matter
Why do we consistently give these people power instead of just killing them when identified? There's basically no lines on his face, he has not experienced human emotion.

>>715869076
>There's basically no lines on his face, he has not experienced human emotion
It's called plastic surgery dumbass. He's smiling every day in his personal harem

>>715862414 (OP)
I wish this was right now, fucking hate this gay ass life.

>>715868737
>Marital rape wasn't even illegal up until 1997,
Because it barely happened.

>>715868760
>kill most of the population
>no-one's around to consume anymore, and all your business ventures fail
There's retardation and then there's evil retardation

>>715863173
>>715866516
Dinosaur Logic but in real life lol. We should still hold them accountable.

>>715868987
I get that this is a video game board but fuck me. You're really not someone who should be trying to have conversations like this. Its way, way above you. The most important detail in my post was probably the date of 2200.

>Most of humanity will have been phased out by this point

Looks like I've found my 1st example.

>>715864420
>anti-exploitation
Ah yes, the heinous exploitation of pixels. Meanwhile these are the same type of people who fight to flood our neighborhoods with 3rd world rapists.

>>715869505
Nah, everything is held back because of capitalism, a huge leap like human evolution of something won't happen, it's just gradual trickling down because every iteration has to pay for itself. We are 500 years from having complete robot bodies with our original brain.

>>715869505
And people have already told you that we won't be making it to 2200. The future you envision depends on technological progress actually happening, the competency crisis is in full swing, we're not going anywhere.
>But AI
Nobody knows how to make a real one. In its current incarnation, it's just a toy that can't function without significant human intervention. We failed, only decline to pre-industrial conditions remains.

>>715866307
because the author is a evil psychopath?

>>715869505
>man watches a youtube video and thinks he's an expert in genetic engineering
And that's exactly why humanity won't create a race of superhumans in 175 years. Because most people are as stupid as you

>>715869214
And then theres having a low reading comprehension. When 95% of jobs have been fully automated; what is money worth? In a situation like this the old economic models get tossed out of the window. The goods that will be manufactured will be manufactured for those that want them. We're talking about a fully automated luxury future. The idea of a "business venture" doesn't even make sense in this context.

>>715869725
Why don't you tell me more about what I believe you fuckin idiot. Ai is a sham. Reread my original post >>715868760

and find the relevant sentence.

The competency crisis is mostly a meme. Its largely DEI shit + poorly allocated human capital. Not to mention the mass proliferation of human mediocrity. Theres more than enough competent people among western mankind, the incentive structures are such that higher human types rarely find themselves where they're needed. The people running shit are almost as stupid as the people they rule over. There aren't many true blue Aristocrats anymore.

>>715868946
Truth, dialectic
You've been arguing fruitlessly your entire life.

>>715870405
Your original post is complete retarded bullshit. In capitalism there can't be rich without poor people. So nope, people will be kept around to be cattle so the elite can be different.

>>715869696
>everything is held back because of capitalism
99% of innovation is *because* of capitalism.
Commutards never figured out how to replace capital incentive.

>>715870693
That just tells a lot about humans in general. Also there are counterexamples. Basically it doesn't matter because that's not even the argument here, they won't give up capitalism and under that you can't be allowed to be free and rich. You need to be cattle.

>>715870693
>99% of innovation is *because* of capitalism.
So? Almost all societies in the world are capitalist.

>>715862414 (OP)
>sickest dreams.
We live in a society where 25 year Olds are beaten for trying to date 18 year Olds. Bro I....

>>715870405
For the kind of genetic engineering you're referring to, you will need AI to do it because DNA has far too much information to parse in a useful timespan. There isn't a specific gene labelled "smart" or however midwits think of it, that isn't how it works. The editing of genetic structures is largely unpredictable in live organisms, the shit we do now is purely trial and error, making deliberate and targeted changes is nigh impossible with mere human intelligence.

Yuval Noah Harari is not a scientist, his knowledge of bioengineering most likely comes from incredibly dumbed down shit he reads in articles published specifically for middlewits like himself to ooh and aah over so investors throw money at research efforts.

>>715867804
>oh but the pictures show its white people who are prohibited from doing this. I am an afghani shitskin so Im exempt because of my culture. Look, the pictures even show we are the victims! I'm gonna help myself to a DOUBLE serving of prime germanic pussy today at the pool, they are so generous!

>>715870693
Also just because capital incentivezes development, it's only because they need a next product to sell. They don't make leaps of several generations, every iteration has to pay full price for itself. Hence bi-yearly products that are barely different than the previous. And the actual argument was not to compare it to communism.

>>715870693
>Commutards never figured out how to replace capital incentive.
They did in a technical sense. Even Marx acknowledged that man's nature had to be rewritten. All the death and failure of socialist systems promising to achieve communism has been a result of communists trying to browbeat resource optimisation out of mankind's psychological bedrock, an impossible prospect because you can't extend self interest beyond a certain degree. People are always going to want things.

>>715870849

>>715870643
The "poor" of today are immensely better off than those of centuries past due to a general rise in standards of living.
There will always be inequality because *people* are not equal.
And if one can leverage their unique talents for profit, they ought not to be discouraged.

>>715871019
And as per my earlier post, no one knows how to build a real one. You can't take the chance that a sequence AI spat out wasn't hallucinated and will only turn a fetus into a psychotic flesh horror.

>>715871105
I'm someone else and that's something you can look into if you want.

>>715870405
I don't believe for a second that WEF is striving for some sort of post-scarcity utopian future where everyone is on equal footing because money and material possessions don't mean anything. My whole point was that they're not interested in the betterment of humanity but only want control. Culling the population means less people that can rise up against you, and that's what they're after if anything. Otherwise, if people don't have to work and we can all have everything we want anyway, why reduce the population on the first place?

>>715871015
The actual reason why communism always failed is because it was always a western capitalist jewish psyop to keep the "designated enemy" poor and weak. None of the communist societies were anything more than outside controlled dictatorships.

>>715871132
I figured, but assumed you followed the conversation a bit more. That said, AI hallucinations are still a thing, you have to correct them with human intervention. The kind of bioengineering these people are talking about won't materialise in any useful sense.

>>715863365
This is why BCIs need to be open hardware and firmware.

>>715871071
You said nothing new, just reinforced what I said before.

>>715871209
AI cuts down the drudgery by millions of times, essentially. Allowing for far more useful work to take place.

>>715870157
Slow down and think. Lets work through it. 175 years ago flying machines were a fiction. 175 years ago electricity was still being researched as a novel phenomena. 175 years ago germs hadn't been discovered. Fuckin germs. They still believed in miasma theory. 175 years ago there was no penicillin. FUCKIN PENICILLIN! You soulless animal. Think retard, think.

No TV. No phones, no wireless technology. No micro electronics, no transistors or radio tech. Think about all the other technologies that now exist as a consequence. Inventors building upon the works of other great men on and on and on. Until all that technology comes to a head resulting you reading these words, right now.

175 years.

You should stick to talking about anime tiddies and your favorite eceleb.

>>715871259
If you were into computational chemistry you would know how dumb that sounds.

>>715870760
>they won't give up capitalism
Why should we *want* to?
So we can subsist for the hive instead?
>and under that you can't be allowed to be free and rich
It is *only* under capitalism that you can be free and rich, as anyone can amass wealth.

>>715870798
>Almost all societies in the world are capitalist.
Seems to be some merit then.
Those that aren't, stagnated or collapsed.

>>715870925
>Hence bi-yearly products that are barely different than the previous
People obviously want them.

>>715871015
>They did in a technical sense. Even Marx acknowledged that man's nature had to be rewritten
So they *didn't* actually solve it.

>>715871238
So your concern isn't quality of life, but the very idea that some people might have more than you.
Crab bucket mentality.

>>715871137
Essentially. It's always been about returning a majority of the human race to serfdom. They're never gonna live that 2016 video down because you could tell everything else in it was bullshit except for this one part. Even then, they wouldn't care if you were happy or not, modern society already doses a statistically significant chunk of the population with emotional regulators.

>>715871434
>So they *didn't* actually solve it.
It's a solution with no means of application. Very important part they keep missing and keep murdering millions of people over.

>>715871434
>anyone can amass wealth.
So why didn't you?

>>715871434
>Those that aren't, stagnated or collapsed.
Explain the capitalist countries that are poor, stagnated or collapsed because the select few have to exploit them so the numbers go up.
>>715871434
>People obviously want them.
You can't be this retarded, holy shit.
>>715871484
That's not what I said. You also will be pushed down and kept around to be cattle so the rich can be rich. And if you think that you will be so much better than now you are, then I have bad news.

>>715871259
and?
how many of those are REAL protein?

>>715864647
Out of the classical sci-fi novel "Do not create the Torment Nexus", the Tech-Bros from MetaSoft are now fulfilling the vision of the Torment Nexus and brining it into your life for a monthly subscription of only 300 $!

>sci-fi gaming thread turned into a politics shit-flinging
just remove /pol/ already

>>715864353
>most "people" on /v/ now genuinely unironically want this future

>>715871592
all

>>715871969
>the only retort he has is a reaction image
grim

>>715863986
Lol, 3 hours and no replies

>>715871969
It's an indictment of where most people on /v/ think we're headed if that's the preferable outcome.

>>715871590
>So why didn't you?
Because I have plenty.

>Explain the capitalist countries that are poor, stagnated or collapsed because the select few have to exploit them so the numbers go up.
Basic corruption? Under-regulation?

>You can't be this retarded, holy shit.
People buy them. It's really that simple.

>And if you think that you will be so much better than now you are, then I have bad news.
You have no news, just petty outrage and fearmongering.
I'll be better off because capitalism needs consumers.

>>715871974
Proof? As in folding mechanism calculated?

>>715872129
Everyone, a completely retarded consumer-goysloper. He doesn't even understand where he's wrong.

>>715870643
The world is filled with burger flippers and warehouse wagies that think themselves amateur mind readers. Yes I'm sure you know exactly what the billionaire tech elite are thinking Mr Anonymous Poster on 4chan.org.

>In capitalism there can't be rich without poor people.

This is true and yet completely irrelevant to anything I've said in this thread. Does the future I've laid out in anyway sound like fuckin capitalism? No? Thats probably because it isn't.

>So nope, people will be kept around to be cattle so the elite can be different.

Again with the mind reading. Its wrong at any rate. The people that aim to make the future I've described a reality, see themselves apart from most of you. Much the same way you see yourself apart from the African bushman. Its foolish to project this kind of pettiness and small-mindedness onto them. They'd much rather you not exist than keep you around to satisfy some juvenile apish desire for differentiation.

>>715865938
they will inherit the spirit of their creators

>>715871969
Just look at all the Maelle apologists.

>>715872084
They imagined a dystopia so terrible that they are willfully promoting a lesser one.
Most people on /v/ need to get off the fucking Internet.

>>715871932
we will never get to sci-fi without killing politicians

>>715871932
real life is politics nigger

thank god none of use will live to see 2200

>>715872176
I accept your concession
Enjoy your misery :)

>>715872280
no it's not but we're being absolutely fucking screwed by them right now which is why they're so much more important

>>715872280
And vidya ain't real life, retard.

>>715872176
>umm... being rich is actually le bad
You could easily pick a better angle to bring him down from his throne of lies but you decided to tap out the instant you realized you're talking to someone much more successful than you. I don't know why people even entertain the notion of talking to neets like you.

>>715872226
Not him, but you hardly need to be able to mind read when they're eager to tell everyone what they're thinking. Every other statement the WEF puts out is some dystopian shit about how we should be euthanising old people (except them of course) because they're not economically useful, or about how everyone should be forced to consume bug protein (except them of course) because they're not worth the production chains to keep them properly fed, or how they should live their lives renting everything (except them of course) because renting everything is just more materially efficient.

The neo-aristocracy deserves the same fate as the old aristocracy, and by that I mean beheading, with guilotines, in real life, not in minecraft.

>>715872280
whites dont say that word

>>715868760
I always find statements expressing 200 years from now really fucking funny because humans are set to purge themselves by next century.

I'm glad I won't live to see the future. gaming is already shitting the bed with the you own nothing aspect and the homogenization of everything.

>>715862414 (OP)
>>715862496
>jew capsules

>>715872410
historylet

>>715862414 (OP)
I will be long dead. I do not care.

The elite will only keep the cattle masses for as long as needed.
They needed them in the industrial age
They needed them in the modern age
They need them in the postmodern world
This is no guarantee they'll need cattle forever, not when a vaiable alternative is ever closer around the corner.

>>715872410
>The neo-aristocracy deserves the same fate as the old aristocracy

Its funny. The murder of the old elites by peasant mobs egged on by money lenders and their propagandists is precisely what has allowed this "neo-aristocracy" to rise. You're advocating for the very measures that allowed the WEF lot to thrive.
Human hierarchy exists. And like nature it will always reassert itself.

You can't get rid of aristocracy. You can't get rid of human hierarchy. Many regimes have tried and they all failed. You only kill a society when you flatten the hierarchy.

>>715872807
>the very measures that allowed the WEF lot to thrive.
Poetic justice. At least the old aristocrats were tied to their land and people, so when they went insane, they couldn't run.

>>715872226
>Does the future I've laid out in anyway sound like fuckin capitalism? No? Thats probably because it isn't.
And that's why I said you are wrong because they won't allow that change. And glad you agree that under capitalism you wouldn't live like that. Because you would be cattle on your rented pod.

>>715872807
Anyway I'm out.

>/Video Games/

>xhe thinks all revolutionary movements in history were actually orchestrated by peasant mcnobodyfaggot and not by the very same aristocratic babies with means and banker connections to simply reset or adjust the tyranny model
kek delusional

>>715865938
I will dedicate my existence to making a torturebot that will torture anyone who didn't help me make it.

>>715873114
The poor man's Roko's Basilisk.

>>715862414 (OP)
>This is why there are no space-faring aliens.
Not really an argument tho, the AI can also be space faring (although the AI can also fall under the same Hedonistic trap)

>>715873456
The elites get off on suffering, of course they'll want to torture the rest of us for all eternity.

>>715862414 (OP)
there will be no humans in 2200 get fucking real faggot

>>715862414 (OP)
Will I be able to become a wolf? I wish I was a wolf.

>>715862414 (OP)
In 2200 there will be no advanced technology. Most people won't even have running water. And only the highest of the elite will have electricity.

>>715864647
>What if we took the idea of a deep geological repository and made it retarded?

>>715862414 (OP)
playing nortubel in the gaming pod

>>715875287
lol

>>715867352
Holy fuck

>>715864420
saw this discussed on reddit and they said this was a "conservative feminist group" lmao

>>715869214
They obviously want some form of utopia-like economical system where everything is in overabundance due to automated manufacturing and maybe even molecular assemblers. Killing almost everyone makes it sustainable for a long time.

>>715872807
i dont care about society. we are not trying to fix a broken society but crushing the evil out of the gene pool wherever it bubbles up. i dont care if someone has to be on top, kid eaters are going to die until the person on top doesn't eat kids and kills anyone who does.

>>715870405
>>715877762
They will still desire human-produced artisanal goods and media.
Even if such artefacts could be better produced by machines, there will always be demand for human *je ne saias quoi* and status associated with the cost.
AI just eliminates low-skill drones with little to offer society.

>>715877082
They have to label everything they dislike as right wing in order to criticize it.

>>715867352
That's a cool hook for a low sci-fi detective story.

This thread is a great reminder to go and actually touch some grass every once in a while.

>>715862414 (OP)

>>715879746
Robots being generous

>>715877082
That's objectively what this is though, it's an ankle deep understanding of feminism from conservative women in denial because they haven't engaged with theory and they don't think women can be conservative.

>>715880262
>you get to be a wagie in our virtual world lol
no they were cruel, if the robots were generous they would let us play vidya and have sexo all day in their virtual world.
>inb4 muhh that was the first iteration of the matrix and it flopped
don"t care

>>715867865
>horrible agonizing death
We don't know that but odds are the machine did what it was supposed to do (decrease oxygen and increase co2) but for whatever reason (maybe it wasn't sealed correctly) the machine wasn't able to completely kill her. So what probably happened was that the machine "killed" her brain due to hypoxia but it wasn't effective enough to kill her completely, so the doctor working with her had the option to either leave her a vegetable or fucking kill her. But by then, she was long gone, probably didn't feel a thing.

>>715872807
>sucking cock of noblemen that would kill you to fuck your wife
You are not going to be the aristocrat.

>>715862496
>All this
>When euthanasia could be simple as fuck
This is just a money grabbing scheme, the fact that it got so much publicity is just proof that people will skin you for money even for your death

>>715872761
>The elite will only keep the cattle masses for as long as needed.
the only thing that makes the "elite" the elite is wealth, when money doesn't mean anything there can't be an "elite"

>>715870693
>managed to create a rocket that still has the most successful space launches and is used to this day
>put the first satellite into space
>put the first man into space
>landed the only lander on Venus that successfully transmitted data back to Earth
>cooperated to successfully run MIR and later, the ISS
>had their own personal computer systems and had OS developed for them'
Why the fuck are the capitalist cultists so delusional with their claims that all prosperity comes from them and their way of life, when US was at its richest during the periods of heavily government managed economy.

>>715881482
nta but do you really trust a person to distribute resources better than a system?
people are fucken losers and are so fallible.
unless your communist utopia is powered by a robot brain that doesn't make mistakes or get greedy, it WILL fail.

>>715862414 (OP)
M8, our civilization will fucking collapse before we even reach 2100. Your great, great grandchildren, if you even manage to propagate your lineage, will play with sticks and stones.

>>715881780
Salvador Allende tried that, he found """"moderate rebels"""" on his doorstep within two years and and then "committed suicide".

>Allende undertook the pioneering Project Cybersyn, a distributed decision support system for decentralized economic planning, developed by British cybernetics expert Stafford Beer. Based on the experimental viable system model and the neural network approach to organizational design, the Project consisted of four modules: a network of telex machines (Cybernet) in all state-run enterprises that would transmit and receive information with the government in Santiago. Information from the field would be fed into statistical modeling software (Cyberstride) that would monitor production indicators, such as raw material supplies or high rates of worker absenteeism, in "almost" real time, alerting the workers in the first case and, in abnormal situations, if those parameters fell outside acceptable ranges by a very large degree, also the central government. The information would also be input into an economic simulation software (CHECO, for CHilean ECOnomic simulator) which featured a Bayesian filtering and control setting that the government could use to forecast the possible outcome of economic decisions. Finally, a sophisticated operations room (Opsroom) would provide a space where managers could see relevant economic data, formulate feasible responses to emergencies, and transmit advice and directives to enterprises and factories in alarm situations by using the telex network. In conjunction with the system, the Cybersyn development team also planned the Cyberfolk device system, a closed television circuit connected to an interactive apparatus that would enable the citizenry to actively participate in economic and political decision-making.

>>715862842
SAO will be literal heaven compared to what megacorps will inflict upon humanity when full-dive like tech becomes real.
There will be constant ads, they will brainwash you to be an obedient cuck for the government, your organs will get harvested during sleep. You do not want the future you desire.

>>715862414 (OP)
No. That the crypsleep pod from Aliens

>>715881482
All of that was accomplished by stealing Nazi scientists and investing all of their money towards the Cold War to the detriment of the general population.
There was no incentive to innovate in domestic spheres.
The disparity in the quality of life between the USSR and US was so striking that when Boris Yeltsin visited Texas, he was certain that the abundance and variety of food at a random grocer was just a facade...until he visited another.
Indeed, the USSR's markets were notoriously inefficient because artificial quotas and rewards create perverse incentives: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wage_reform_in_the_Soviet_Union,_1956%E2%80%931962

>>715882271
Should they not have invested into the Cold War and instead allowed the US to dominate them? And Boris Yeltsin was a fucking retard, so nothing he says or does should be considered seriously, he was as effective of a president as Joe Biden had been. Your claims about domestic innovation being lacking also ring hollow given that both the car manufacturing and domestic electronics manufacturing continued to innovate within the USSR and strong laws and policies for consumer protections and longevity of goods were put in place. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GOST

And I'll just pretend I didn't see the insipid comment about the magical Nazi scientists that shat diamonds and turned lead into gold, this meme is so played out at this point, that it's not even worth considering as anything other than a joke. Might as well start quoting Solzhenytsin at me.

>>715862414 (OP)
Imagine thinking the human species of 2200 will have electricity

I think the moment we start doing brain transplants and cybernetics is the moment God pulls the plug

>>715881986
>"Hey wouldn't this be cool?"
>Schizophrenic invents torture porn about it

>>715862414 (OP)
God I hope so

>>715882726
And He should.

>>715882726
>i'm sure my semitic spook will do something, any day now
lel

>>715882726
>save me jewish master
lol buckbroken

>>715882726
so that's too far.
genocides, rape, infanticide, abortions, war, famine, disease, all that shit is trad as fuck, but as soon as we try to improve the human experience a tad too far, your rapist, murdering god won't be standing up for that.

>>715882618
Yes, autocratic regimes do exert regulatory control.
Their innovation was military with little application for the civilian population because there was no entrepreneurship to capitalize on it.
They ultimately lost in every sphere at the expense of millions.
Give it a rest, tankie.

>>715883295
>regulations bad
>nuh uh
The only reason why they lost is because they believed that capitalism would make things better and lead to an eternal abundance that the US shilled, which has all but run out for the average American by now, and shamefully surrendered to their opponents.

>>715883447
I never claimed regulations were bad, only that they are a given for an autocracy, not some impressive feat.

>>715883767
They are a given for any society that wishes to survive and stay sane.

>>715862414 (OP)
>>715862496
>>715864353
Imagine killing a person in of those machines. Them being in their fantasy dream world with their imagined loved ones. You a barbarian pillager destroying the pod to rape and eat them. You literally destroy their whole world and their last moments are those of confusion and fear as their fake sissy escapist world literally (and figuratively) breaks under the cruel and unforgiving nature of reality. Imagine.

>>715885717
>You a barbarian pillager
you mean the kind of person who'd get spotted brandishing an illegal weapon and turned into minced meat by security laser turrets?

>>715880854
in universe they tried that, it didn't work

>>715862414 (OP)
>Cancer random generator

>>715862414 (OP)
No it won't be you fearmongering fat nigger CUNT