Thread 715893875

Now that the dust has settled, which was the better game?

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>>715893875 (OP)
1 and it's not even close. 2 is dogshit.

Left is a cowboy game.
Right is a movie game & walking simulator.

>>715893875 (OP)
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2 just has way more going on, 1 is pretty barebones in comparison and too much of the story has goofy unfunny characters.

>>715893875 (OP)
i love both, but 1 is more fun to revisit

>>715893928
fpwp

>>715893875 (OP)
Story and world: 1
Gameplay: 2

>>715893935
>>715893991
>>715894005
>>715894028
Oldniggers have the worst opinions. It will be cool when you guys start developing health issues and focus on that instead of going out of your way to be wrong and boring

>>715894070
>and boring
Funny you should use thay word while defending 2, which is one of the most boring games ever created.

>>715894070
frfr man no cap now sybau

>>715893875 (OP)
Damn, two great games. I'd hate being a cuck who hated one and liked the other.

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR2, and you're a contrarian if you think otherwise. Nothing fucking happens in RDR1. It's basically a side mission in RDR2

>>715894191
Excuse me, you're on 4chin. The rule here is you have to pick a team with any sort of gay media you waste your time consuming and shit on the rival one instead of enjoying both. That's the etiquette on this cool dude club.

>>715893935
It's okay to think that but "it's not even close" just shows that you're a contrarian fat loser who is partly why this board is so ass now
You're fat

>>715893875 (OP)
The arcade-iness of 1 makes it more fun to play than 2, but 2 is one of the few games where you could play it reasonably well without referring to your minimap because the world is just that detailed.

>>715894070
Dumbass it is literally adhd zoomers who seethe about rdr2 day in and out on this board

>>715894879
>Play 2 without minimap
>Have to pay attention to landmarks and directions, often checking for directions by stopping at signposts
True kino

is the story of 2 enjoyable if i forgot almost everything from 1?

>>715894191
Wym dude you have to

>>715895015
It'a not ejoyable even if you remember the story of 1.

>>715895015
its a better story than 1,the most enjoyable by far

>>715894070
I'm in better shape than you will ever be twink

>>715895015
it's a prequel

>>715893875 (OP)
The one not set in a disgusting desert and full of mexicans.

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR is a better game. RDR2 is a better simulator of... things, and I'm not into that.

>>715895015
It’s an HBO period drama in game form.

>>715895973
this, playing 2 then 1 is actually the best way to experience these games

>>715895008
On occasion, there is some difficulty knowing precisely where you need to go, but it's very good in over 90% of situations. At most, you need the compass.

One of my favorite situations was Klaus or whatever the moneylender's name is was telling me about how I needed to get money from an undertaker somewhere in Rhodes, and I was thinking about how you could even get to him but as it turns out there is very clearly a shop you pass through walking in town that have coffins. Another time was tracking with Charles and being able to follow the horse path in first person on horseback if you pay enough attention to the ground. In truth, I don't like the game a whole lot and think the free roam is kind of lame, but I love how you can rely on your basic sensibilities to find things instead of stupid shit like eagle vision.

>>715894939
Because they actually care about gameplay and not graphics or story.

idk im waiting for rdr1 to go for less than 25 deutche marks

>>715898982
Yeah dood fortnite!

>>715894070
By the time I develop serious enough health issues to stop calling your takes dogshit your zoomie lead stare will have developed into total braindeath.

>>715893875 (OP)
rdr2 is better in basically evey regard, only nostalgiafags would say 1 is better in anyway

>>715893875 (OP)
2 is a melodrama for women not a game

>>715893875 (OP)
1 is a good video game. Online and Undead Nightmare were there so you could have FUN. 2 was made so women and fatherless manchildren could cry on stream while watching some cutscene. Can't believe I was baited into buying RDR2. They couldn't even add Liar's dice. No fun allowed.
>dude, horseballs and Lenny lmao!!

>>715893875 (OP)
Spent thousands of hours and nights shooting up mexicans and saudis in the first one. Ditched the sequel after the starting missions.

>>715900946
>>715901772
women like gay shit made for them like nintendo, not many are playing cowboy game you delusional troon

>>715901772
>>715903162
These RDR2 is why I do not buy games at release or for full price anymore. It's not a game, and it certainly doesn't deserve to be called Red Dead.

>>715903457
Women are a significant population in survival and simulation games. You're an actual troon with zero experience of normal people. Please kill yourself immediately.

RDR2 was peak free roam bandit simulator.

>>715903457
rdr2 is gaying and more women coded than brokeback mountain

>>715904968
>rdr2 is gaying
gayer*

>>715893875 (OP)
1 is gta with horses, 2 is moviegame

>>715904968
>>715905105
Your English is brown.

>>715905167
Red daaad is gaying saaar!

>>715893875 (OP)
>RDR1 is the better game
>better gunplay
>better cutscenes
>better characters
>better soundtrack
>better humor

>>715894049
>Gameplay: 2

>>715905424
>carries literally every weapon ever collected on him AT ALL TIMES
That shit ruined the entire game.
Absolutely unplayable.
Also:
>no way to wear cool tophats and larp as a Walton except if you had the extra gay edition, where you look like a gay Walton instead of a cool one
Unplayable.

>>715893875 (OP)
1 because it's gameplay isn't dramatically slowed down for damn near everything like RDR2.
Imagine thinking a 25s gun fight followed by 2m of waiting on animations for looting and other bullshit fun.

>>715906334
>Imagine thinking a 25s gun fight followed by 2m of waiting on animations for looting and other bullshit fun.
>spoils of war
kino

RDR1 for the story but RDR2 in every other regard. The open world is very beautifully crafted and interesting to explore. Wish the movement wasn't absolute fucking ass though, I have 120 hours and it still makes me rip my hair out.

>>715905424
>RDR2 has better horse balls

two for no other reason than that i hate John Marstons voice

>>715904102
>Women are a significant population in survival and simulation games.
Kek this is the type of troon shit that killed gaming. How do you type this shit with a straight face

Wait people actually think gameplay in 2 is worse? I thought the issue was the slow pacing
What about the gameplay is worse than 1, every single thing has been improved

>>715907854
Nobody has ever said that except for retards on this board

>>715893875 (OP)
I'm currently replaying RDR1 and I've got to say that while the missions themselves aren't bad, they lack variety worse than I remembered particularly if you're just doing the main story missions.
>Seth mission, clear Tumbleweed.
>Mission to rescue Bonnie immediately after, clear Tumbleweed again, same direction.
>Mexican Army mission, defend a train from Rebels while on horseback, leave from Chuparosa, ends by that blown up bridge on the east side of the map.
>Army mission, defend the train from Rebels, this time with a gatling gun, departs from Chuparosa, ends at the army camp by the east bridge again.
>Army backstab mission, ends with a shootout in Chuparosa
>Rebel mission, go to Chuparosa, shootout with the army, steal the train and take it east to meet the Rebels.
>Mission where you see Dutch in the bank, chase him to Bear Claw Camp for a shootout where he gets away.
>Mission with the professor and the Indian informant, ride to Bear Claw Camp for negotiations that end in a shootout.
RDR2 has some real slogs of drawn out walking sim missions on repeat playthroughs, but the first game contriving ways to put you in the same arena multiple times isn't good either.

>>715893875 (OP)
Rdr1 by far. Everything is just better and feels better and snappier. It is the better video game, while rdr2 is the better movie game. But rdr2 is shit as a game, due to how "realistic" the main character always needs to move.

>>715893875 (OP)
Game? 1. Movie? 2.

>>715905424
>better gunplay
Except the fact that you can disarm every NPC, which of course you almost never do, how is thr gunplay better?
>better cutscenes
Yeah, if Spanish is your first language.
>better characters
If you like your characters more overblown than realistic, sure.
>better soundtrack
Because of one José Gonzales song? Fuck off.
>better humor
The humorous moments are about the same in both games. I don't remember many outright funny things about RDR1, except the Mexican revolutionary being a dick and having groupies. The first "greet, greet, anagonize" you do in RDR2 is funnier than that.
>>715908540
Nostalgia is one hell of a drug. This fag >>715910105 is the ultimate proof of that.

>>715893875 (OP)
The first one was so boring I never bother with the second :)

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR1 is too much like gta with horses to hold any candle to 2

>>715893875 (OP)
2 is an overindulgent, obnoxious movie game with bloated features like survival elements because those things were trendy during its decade long development. 1 at least has a pretty kino ambience if nothing else.

>>715893875 (OP)
The first one but with ReShade. But you really have to know your stuff to make it shine.

>>715894153
> sybau

What did these little wiggers fine up with now? What does this mean?

>>715915183
shut your bitch ass up
its extremely retarded

>>715915082
That looks retarded.

>>715915390
Not sure whether that's the right word to describe this beauty. Maybe it's time to upgrade your monitor anon.

>>715893875 (OP)
2 but contrarians will say 1

>>715893875 (OP)
both shit

>>715915783
It looks like someone threw up on partially digested Trix all over the monitor.

>>715915082
>>715915783
>But you really have to know your stuff to make it shine
you clearly dont
oversaturated retard fuck

i doubt any of the fucks here played 1, think it was like 2010

personally didnt make much of it but all the new heads dick riding the rd2 movie game and wanna get down on the 'legacy'

>>715915082
ugly

>>715915783
Like Monet and Van Gogh at the same time, but better. Don't cast these pearls before swine my fellow connoisseur.

>>715895015
90% of the people who loved RDR2 never played 1

>>715916606
replying to yourself....holy newfag

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR2 just constantly crashes and never gets bug fix updates

>>715915082
A bit too saturated

the gunplay of Call of Juarez Gunslinger with the open world of Red Dead 2 and the setting and protagonist of RDR1

>>715893875 (OP)
It's 1.
It's not just significantly better written, but it understands it's a third person cover shooter and has a lot of fun with it. The shooting actually feels fun and dynamic.
2 went to hard on muh realism and as a result it often feels sluggish and awkward, and the cover system kinda retarded.
2 does do a lot of things better though, like the environments, hunting, horse riding and some other stuff, but 1 is truly the superior game even if 2 is a good as well.

>>715917056
>sluggish and awkward
that's such a pleb opinion, i don't even.... maybe this year's cowadoody is more up to your speed

>>715915082
>retards take the bait every time you post this
Why is this board so filled with retarded zoomers now

>>715917227
I dunno if you're trolling or not, but I'm gonna assume sincerity since this is actually something people say in defense.
Rockstar games have had this mold since 2001, more or less. There's awkwardness in the way their standard games play, but after a rougher start you'll get the hang of it and actually start to enjoy it, Bc you learn to navigate the controls and how to properly respond, this never really happened in 2, it always seemed like Arthur was shuffling around mid water, that he shoots way to slow, and I'm pretty sure is the forced realism that causes it.
1 was a lot quicker and more dynamic, and felt a lot more fun. Shootouts could be it's won reward in 1, in 2 it's always a punishment.
The realism does work wonders for the horse rearing and hunting though.

>>715917332
>Why is this board so filled with retarded zoomers now
I hate to tell ya boys, but (You) mighta gotten old

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR2, the fact that it filters adhd zoomies just makes it better.

>>715917562
all im getting from this is that you found rdr1 shooting to be easier. the animations are so much better in rdr2, it's like you are directing your own movie.
also, revolver fanning, nuff said.

>>715916780
What a pleb, this is like showing the Mona Lisa to a pack of hoodrats.

>>715917921
>all im getting from this is that you found rdr1 shooting to be easier
Lmao no. This confirms you didn't play 1.
1 had hardcore mode and actual punishment for death.
> the animations are so much better in rdr2
Also no. That's well documented.
https://youtu.be/KtMVYtNDBs0?si=2BnlttXB49d9U7sR

>>715893875 (OP)
People don't remember how scattered the story in rdr 1 is, it only really stars once you meet Dutch in Blackwater

>>715918093
every time i look at rdr1 ragdolls i feel like the benny hill theme should be playing on top, it's ridiculous

>>715893875 (OP)
I replayed rdr1 the last couple of days and most of the missions are just ride here and listen to people talk then shoot about 30 guys. I actually though rdr1 was my favorite but not anymore. Last played it in 2013 or so. It just felt so lacking compared to rdr2

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR >>>>> RDR2

RDR2 is so fucking boring its painful. It was like one never ending tutorial mission. At least I could finish RDR.

>>715893875 (OP)
if I may so humbly drop a trvke.
first game was made by fans of cowboy movies.
second game was made by people who wanted to sell the first game to as many people as possible.

>>715894070
zoomers have 2 builds, clinically obese, or on so many chinese roids they have heart attacks in their early 20s. at this point, gen z will die out before millennials. at least music will get better.

>>715918370
what is GUN?

>>715918370
I don't believe 2 was made by people who even like vidya. It's one of the most anti-fun >games I've ever played.

>>715893875 (OP)
The one with the shrinking horse balls

>>715918238
>nooooo muh realism
and that's why 1 is better

>>715919125
in what way?

>>715911640
>Because of one José Gonzales song? Fuck off.
the best song in 2 is the theme of 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-BIqqSe1nU

>>715915082
>>715915783
they're just mad they don't have hdr screens to see the glory.

>>715919453
Having better gunplay

>>715918659
it's the same devs since gta 3,

They're different horses
1
>much more arcadey
>plot is not as developed
>has GTA IV's pacing due to it being developed shortly after it
>everyone but john marston and Bonnie MacFarlane is a piece of shit or a leech
II
>slightly more pozzed
>much more slow and methodical, "let it ruminate"
>characters are much more fleshed out and several are likeable
>graphically much more impressive

>>715919723
it's just the shitty GTA4 gunplay. There is way to make the boring old cowboy arsenal be fun like in CoJ Gunslinger, but rdr1 ain't it.

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR1 (lmao poor Revolver) is a better GTA with horses. RDR2 is a good cowboy simulator ruined by sitty GTA combat.

>>715893875 (OP)
1 is the contrarian pick, 2 is better in every way. I played one again recently and my god it starts SLOOOOOOOOOOW. And when you do meet your old gang members it's kind of just a wet fart.

>>715893875 (OP)
Story is better in 2, but the gameplay is better in 1, it's simpler.
RDR1 never had my character constantly store weapons secretly, causing me to get into missions and be fucked when I just have pistols.

>>715919972
the literal second i felt how arthur controlled, i was already mad. rdr2 is the worst playing game i've ever played.

>>715920157
It's better than that

>>715919972
>characters are much more fleshed out and several are likeable
Yeah, but it's to the overall story's detriment, because they end up mattering for nothing. Charles or Lenny being likeable don't really matter much since they have nill plot relevance. At least West Dickens actually has a point in existing.
And whiles 1's story is videogamey it's at least a natural plot progression, 2 is just meandering till the obvious happens

>>715893875 (OP)
>mid vs dogshit

>>715922206
>zoomer word vs. zoomer word

Does RDR have the same annoying irony and satire that GTA has or does it have more of a traditional western tone?

RDR2 is overrated as hell. There's literally nothing to do other than hunt. There's like 10 side quests and maybe 50 random events which are just shitty things like "you can kill le hecking kkk".

You can't even cause mayhem like you can with GTA games because you just get a billion bounty which stays with you permanently.

>>715894070
>Go one meter off track
>Mission failed
It was awful

>>715893875 (OP)
1 is 30 GBP 2 is 15 GBP on discount atm, should I buy one or both?

>>715893875 (OP)
Both are pretty damn good. I still prefer 1 just due to the brisker pace and better mission variety. 2 has pacing issues, is way too long, and the missions get super repetitive in the second half.

>>715922672
Eh, it's half that and half spaghetti western
There's no traditional John Wayne/Roy Rogers classic western

>>715893875 (OP)
Red Dead Redemption is a great game. RDR2 is dogshit.

>>715918001
kid we can see you are replying to yourself

>>715922806
>Nooooo, don't kill the heckin kkkarino! They are saving le white race!

RDR 2 is woke vomit
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex10r7R3NcY
Red Dead Redemption 2-Elliptical Politics (Reupload) - Admiral V - 385 subscribers 27K views 5 years ago

>>715926575
Kek those comments are like a parody just like the posts in these threads
Literally just children late to the anti woke shit who have never seen a western in their life

>>715893875 (OP)
I liked that I was a lone cowboy in the first game. I did not like getting saddled with a gang in the second. It got in the way of my enjoying the game.

>>715893928
fpwp.

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR2 is a technical marvel and all, but I had more fun playing RDR1.

>>715926824
mmm k

>>715927941
The women leading that march get lynched later in the game. And isn't Arthur doing that so he can rob the feminists family?
Also you can dispatch of the feminist crier in Saint Denis in any way you want

>>715893928
This. I replayed 1 only a couple months before 2 released and it wasn't even a contest which was better. Only shitty thing about 2 is the dev effort and time wasted on RDO instead of singleplayer dlc because an undead nightmare 2 would've kicked ass

>>715893875 (OP)
RDR1 was amazing. I was massively disappointed with RDR2 simply because I never feel like I'm controlling Arthur- literally everything in his gameplay loop is as sluggish and slow as molasses while being incredibly clunky. I feel like I'm controlling someone else controlling Arthur, and RDR2 faggots will swear up and down that's peak gameplay.

Fucking movie-game retards.

>>715928324
Nta but
>The women leading that march get lynched later in the game.
No they don't
>And isn't Arthur doing that so he can rob the feminists family?
Sorta. At this point he knows that these two don't really have any power or know where the mystery gold is. Or at least he should. He's doing it mostly out of personal amusement and because he's already having a change of heart.

>>715928598
>No they don't
Yes they do. Meet with Penelope in chapter 6 and she tells you they got killed in town

>>715893928
FPWP

>>715928598
>At this point he knows that these two don't really have any power or know where the mystery gold is. Or at least he should
That's the entire point of him meeting with Beau in the first place. He's not just helping him for no reason

>>715893875 (OP)
I remember enjoying 1 all the way through, there were some points I didn't like as much (Who really enjoys go to mexico, in game or IRL) but overall I loved the entire game.

2 I stopped playing after it had me follow around some retard I just broke out of jail and slaughter most of a town. Fucking bullshit rockstar writing.

>>715928567
excellent post, anon. well said.

>>715916927
ITS PAYNE

Is the remaster worth getting even if I played through the original game once? I never played Undead Nightmare.

>>715893875 (OP)
Story of 1. Gameplay of 2.

RDR2's story has a huge issue in that there's no real development of its characters, even when the story wants to pretend it does.
Arthur already starts the story as regretful outlaw, sure if you play with the morality system you can actually have a better (if boilerplate) redemption tale, but it's just not that strong. Same thing goes with the other characters. Dutch already starts as hypocritical, theatrical, egocentric and short sighted, his "fall" is more like a guy perpetually tripping stairs.
When you compare it to 1, which 2 is supposed to be a prequel to (but going into how it bungles that would take even more words than it's already taking) you notice it a lot more because 2 is supposed to be character driven. 1 has John as a static character getting stumbling across other peoples stories, while the narrative drives home the themes about the death of the Old West, security vs freedom, the slow encroachment of central powers and technology, etc.
2 has those exact themes, but it doesn't execute them nearly well enough, one of the reasons being that it choose to be so character focused, but at the same time it didn't write these characters well.

>>715928892
It's worth it for Undead Nightmare alone

>>715922806
I just wish they had more repeatable random events in 2 like in 1. Most of them are more unique which is nice, but they generally stop happening altogether after a while outside of a few here and there like the Murfrees looting campsites. Makes the world start to feel dead. Stuff never stopped happening in 1. They were more generic, but you would always have something going on no matter how long you played.

>>715928761
>2 I stopped playing after it had me follow around some retard I just broke out of jail and slaughter most of a town
The realism of the gameplay and serious tone of the story clash so fucking heavily with the main missions it's not even funny.
It wasn't an issue when you mowed down hordes of bandits in 1 because that part of the western genre and the game had a tone to match.
It's nonsensical how the gang can just slaughter a whole town and no level of government cares. Or how you can literally break into a federal prison with zero consequences.
When the story constantly insists that the gang attracting attention from the law bad, but literally all you do is attract attention and mow down law agents, you kinda have to wonder what schizo wrote this script.

>>715893875 (OP)
I choose... both!!!

>>715895015
Yeah they kinda improve each other but you should replay 1 it's worth remembering

>>715929516
What are you talking about they had the Pinkertons after them?

RDR2 feels like two games hastily taped together.

In the one hand you have a detailed cowboy sandbox with a lot of interesting activities and cool emergent mechanics. Then in the other hand you have a dogshit railroaded campaign with zero of the freedom the game is known for. Basically a cowboy Uncharted with less interesting setpieces and slow af movement.

Those two parts are completely disconnected, and barely ever interfere with each other. Not even your equipment and stats matter, because the game is piss easy. If both halves were separated into individual games, neither of them would be particularly worse off.

Compare this with GTA San Andreas, where you weren't given equipment on mission start and lost them all on death. Then money actually mattered, and with it your open world activities. You also needed to buy houses to save. You had freedom in how to complete missions too, sometimes which car you were using at the start of a mission would be paramount to its success.

Not to mention shit like completing the fireman missions to become immune to fire, or getting ripped at the gym to do more melee damage. Or the mission you had to level lung capacity to even start. The campaign existed to propel you into engaging with the open world, and it was awesome.

Rockstar had the formula to success and threw it away for bigger maps.

RDR1 plot aside from finaly which is pretty kino is literally trash without knowing all the backstory and characters RDR2 created, entire game plot is basically this:
>go there and kill guy X you supposedly know and used to be friends with (who cares)
>go there and kill guy Y you supposedly know and used to be friends with (who cares)
>go there and kill guy XY you supposedly know and used to be friends with (who cares)
>go back to your beloved family (who cares, you see them only in last few missions)

it's literally boring trash if you didn't finish 2nd game first

It’s been years since I played 1 but I remember enjoying it more. Especially the multiplayer. I don’t like rockstar’s modern take on multiplayer. Outside multiplayer 2 would’ve been the better game if it didn’t take so god damn long to get anything done.

>>715894070
You are just to immature to realize how juvenile, stupid and utterly ignorant of life and taste your opinions are. I would say you will grow out of it, but you kids these days are so goddamn stupid you probably won't ever reach a normal level of development.

>>715929992
Yeah rdo2 was fucking garbage

>>715893875 (OP)
They are both movie game garbage to me

>>715929880
What are you talking about? The Pinkertons are after them because they robbed the train at the start

>>715929992
The last time I played RDR2 online, I spawned in New Austin and accidentally got too close to another player trying to rob a stage coach. Instantly I was dragged into the activity, he locked onto my horse, blew its brains out and shot me to death before I had a chance to leave. When I tried calling my horse back it said I needed to pay horse insurance. I turned it off and never touched it again.

2 was unnecessary, and anyone preferring it over the first are faggots, who are easily swayed by shiny graphics and shit writing. I only played 1, and I'm keeping to that.

>>715894191
>hated one and liked the other.
I thought one was pretty good, not my favorite open world sandbox, but pretty good. Two I found boring and too focused on being a sim, dropped it. I don't see how you could enjoy the second game if you had played the first and I don't think that person exists. There are three types of people who played this game.
1. NPC's who've only played two and think it's the best game ever made and anyone who criticizes it in the slightest is a heckin racist chud because that's what journalists tell them to say. These people are only playing games because they perceive it as high status and would be eating mud in africa if not for electronics.
2. People who played the first and thought the second one was either boring or offensively bad.
4. People who played the second, went back and played the first and realized how shit the second one is in comparison. These people commit sudoku in extreme dishonor once they realize how wrong they were to mock anyone who liked the first.

>>715931951
Nope both are great games you're just a fat schizo like most whiners on this shit board

>>715893875 (OP)
In which one can I fuck horse pussy?

>>715894070
Oldtroons BTFO

>>715932112
T. tier 1
I saw on tv that mud cakes have amazing health benefits, everyone is eating them these days. There's a few racist assholes who don't but fuck them.

>>715932249
Not helping the schizo allegations and luckily nobody here or irl takes your fatass serious

>>715893875 (OP)
2 is only salvageable if you finish the idiotic garbage story as fast as you can, skip all the cutscenes, do 0 optional missions and then mod the shit out of it to do fun wild west outlaw activities in the alleged outlaw wild west sandbox that are limited, moralizing and overall unsatisfactory in the vanilla version.
And of course pirate that shit, imagine giving any money to cuckstar in the current year lmao

>>715932567
>fat
>schizo
>fat
>schizo
I think you need to add more words to your database NPC-kun.

>>715933224
Nah it's more fun to hit where it hurts tubby we all know you're fat

>>715933350
>fat fat fat
No offense, but it's pretty boring engaging in shit flinging with you when you only know two insults. Just trying to help a brother out, take it or leave it. I was joking before but are you actually an individual with cognitive impairment?

>>715894070
That's cool but I'm still going to take half your paycheck as rent, fuck your women and take my time on the highway. It's nothing personal, I just don't like your shitty haircuts.

>>715933517
KEK whatever lardass you talk like you're trying too hard to be smart. What a fat joke

>>715900521
>lead stare

>>715933739
You don't have the capacity to feel embarrassed but you should.

>>715893935
This.

>>715893928
This.

>>715935307
Says the fat guy lmao