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New BF6 recoil. Looks horrible.
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Looks fine. You probably canโt shoot worth shit anyway.
>>715896680 (OP)looks good to me
>we want the mw2019 audience
looks alright from the small amount i looked at
catbox is too slow for me to actually pay attention, was there a hipfire example as well?
>>715898113its incredible how much of a MW19 copy this looks like
BF died with 4
>>715896680 (OP)it's probably designed with controller aim assist in mind
>>715896680 (OP)Alright this game is already worse than BF2042, why do they insist on adding these dumbass muzzle effects where you canโt even see what youโre shooting. Fuck off completely.
Immersion faggots seriously need to die, durr muh immersion is more important than gameplay cause im garbage at the game.
>>715896680 (OP)don't worry, my strikepack and cronus scripts will make it fine.
remember : FUCK pc players (they all cheat).
>shoot gun full auto
>gun recoils roughly upwards
oh no?!
>>715898525There's no hipfire in BF6.
>>715898717>FUCK pc players (they all cheat).I wish I could beat you to a pulp with a baseball bat
>>715898606you thought this was bad? look at a clip of a gun being shot in mw3 2023 before they nerfed the muzzle smoke
>>715898865lmao look at this retard, read his post again you mouth breather
The last good battlefield was bad company 2
>>715896680 (OP)This looks better than the random recoil that BFV had, fuck that shit seriously
>>715898557BF1 and BFV were pretty cool for their graphics and the gameplay was okay.
>>715898557>BF4 had good gunplayAbsolute third world zoomer cope. Bf1 is the only game in this entire fucking series with good gunplay.
t.35 year old boomer.
>>715898435MW2 and 3make are unironcally good for recoil handling. Cope and seethe.
>>715898717turns out console peasants were the cheating niggers all along
>>715898113>>715898557They literally hired multiple ex Infinity Ward designers who worked on MW2019 specifically for a reason anons lol.
>>715899387>Bf1 is the only game in this entire fucking series with good gunplay.BF1 has BF4 gunplay except with suppression that makes you miss your shots the moment a bullet flies past you. You also can't reset spread unlike BF3 or BF4.
>MW2 and 3make are unironcally good for recoil handling. Cope and seethe.BF isn't COD. This shit will turn to Ground War or Warzone with 150 meter ARs if they don't reintroduce spread. Recoil doesn't matter.
>>715896680 (OP)>can't laser peopleLooks good to me tbhfamalam
>>715896680 (OP)>open vid>chingchongspeak>close vid
as long as there is no gay ass spread again
>>715899431console niggers have been cheating since ps3 days
>>715899702>No spread>Uses controller for 40% less recoil>Uses meta attachments for no recoil>Laserbeams everyone from 150 meters with rotational aim assist and snap aim???
>>715899901watch it have that gay ass recoil dampening shit like apex
>>715896680 (OP)all the guns have fake names and retarded models why? Gay
>>715898557>won't do the blue neo BF3 filter >won't bother going back to BF4's orange nightclub aesthetic >it's just shit realistic from here on out >wont even go back to the classic sandstorm piss yellowI hate this faggot ass timeline
>>715899453welp this is gonna be filled with safe spaces
>>715900014Which is why spread is essential to have in BF. So many clueless console redditors are asking for higher recoil while they also hate spread. Spread limits engagement distances while also not hindering PC players. Without spread it will resemble Ground War, Delta Force. You will be able to laserbeam everyone with meta attachments. Engagement distances will be just a suggestion, which is why 2042 maps feels awful to play in.
>>715900052>entire video is in made up gibberish language>wtf, why are the guns named wrong?
>>715900052licensing for some reason these days gun makers don't like their guns being tied to vidya like they used to be (either that or companies just don't want to pay) most likely option 2
Ill never understand why people want random bloom for Battlefield.
>>715900261their looks don't apply to that though so the gay moddeling is entierly on the devs
>>715900303I'll never understand why people want aiming down sights in battlefield
>>715900246I didn't watch the vid
>>715899453>multiple ex Infinity Ward designersIt's just Zampella who never worked on MW2019 and Byron Beede.
>>715900197imo I'd rather have suppression back then spread.
>>715900635>I'd rather have suppression back>If I shoot you and miss then you shouldn't be accurate too!Nah, fuck suppression
>>715898113 >>715898557and that's a good thing
>>715900127>nostalgic for the fucking bf3 filterkill yourself
>>715900387Cause that is how you shoot normally, and every BF game from 2 onwards has been about using ADS
>>715900450Arma doesn't need that shit to "limit" engagements. Video game balance is always a tight rope, how rare is it to get a REAL shotgun? If you want to balance it, you can balance it like real life does. Limited ammo, actual recoil/hard to control so you fire in bursts, keep track of how much ammo is in a magazine.
This is the same type of shit when people complain about the new movement, yet ignore how stupid BF2 dolphin diving was or the shit people can go back and pull in BF3/4 cause players aren't as bad anymore.
>>715896680 (OP)>what do you mean I can't fire full auto at a target 300+ meters away and hit them with every shot?>AHHHHHHHHHH TOO MUCH RECOIL! LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE! you could try just not sucking
>>715900909>Arma doesn't need that shit to "limit" engagementsBF isn't Arma. Tap firing is the default of Arma even in close range.
>>715900947Recoil doesn't matter since controllers has less recoil by default.
>>715896680 (OP)>muh hold down m1 laser bullet spread
>>715900738exactly.
discourage faggot lazer beam fights from across the map
>>715900978and BF doesn't even know what it wants to be. Maybe they should try to compete in autismo simulators with Arma and Squad/Hell Let Loose etc and understand that they might have lost that casual playerbase ages ago by going to BFV right before CoD "reinvented" itself with 2019 but launched a pretty well liked battle royale mode with Blackout.
>>715901174Suppression makes close range fights suck too. You lose fights because someone else shot first and missed.
>>715896680 (OP)>all that horizontal recoilgrim
I don't get it. Is OP crying because 5.56 NATO doesn't kick like a mule (he's a nogunz, has never fired an AR15, doesn't know the caliber's recoil is very low) or trained soldiers can handle firearm recoil better than retard shit like counter-strike makes guns appear to work?
>>715900127Oh, now we're pretending the 7th gen color grading that was complained about for nearly two decades was good? Do you have an iota of a personality or does being contrarian completely take up that void?
>>715901452well then they can fucking balance it then.
<50m no bullets have 0 suppression effect.
there problem solved
>>715901598Or just ignore retards who doesn't understand why they are hating on spread and buff the spread to be more in line with BF3 and 4.
>>715896680 (OP)>Bursts and full-autos fine at short range>retards not single tapping at medium range and beyondLooks fine
>>715900197>Spread limits engagement distances while also not hindering PC playersNever played a battlefield game. Does the series not have bullet drop and bullet velocity?
>>715896680 (OP)The sound design and indoor firing is pretty decent
>>715901739Bullet drop and velocity is realistic in newer games. Like 700-800 m/s for ARs. It doesn't matter.
>>715901452>it's bad I'm at a disadvantage when someone got the drop on meTurn it around or die. Skill issue.
>>715901550>>715900861Okay, give me what YOU would like to see
theres probably 100+ well thought out, objectively bad reasons you should not buy this game and you chose recoil
is anyone here enough of a naive faggot to believe that fixing the recoil in the nth iteration of a dead franchise would make an EA/DICE product in current decade worth your money?
>>715901848TTK is already fast, even if I flicked at the perfect moment I will still lose gunfights in BF1 because game won't allow me to be accurate.
>>715899860ackshually modding ps2 games to cheat was extremely simple
I think it's futile to argue about what BF6 should do or do not. Considering EA's target audience for this game, gunplay is going to be a laserbeam shitfest with a TTK that is much lower than BF3 with strong controller aim assist.
I hope the retards defending the 'open weapons' or the current class system are going to get what they fucking deserve; a total of 3 BFs flopping in a row, watch them blame the "community" alongside DICE this time.
>>715900909>This is the same type of shit when people complain about the new movement, yet ignore how stupid BF2 dolphin diving was or the shit people can go back and pull in BF3/4 cause players aren't as bad anymore.If people play a game and their experience reflects gameplay A but theoretically the game could have been played with gameplay B, when the sequel comes out what kind of gameplay will they be expecting that sequel to have: A or B?
Yes, this is the autism test, and yes, you have autism.
>>715896680 (OP)It has a bunch of retarded camera shake and visual recoil so naturally it will be popular among the reddit crowd
>715899387Bait this obvious doesn't deserve a (You)
>>715902558 It's so over for BF
>yfw streamer faggots running controller inputs on a keyboard to get aim assist with a mouse
>ea/dice purposely let it happen for a while
>>715902558oh yeah it's over. BTW EA setting an unreacheble sales expectations means they wanna kill the series and the dev team along with it. They can later outsource the next BF to indians to make a warzone clone or something. Happened with Dead Space 3.
>>715902558I miss when gun reload animations actually looked cool and were not shaky as fuck. I can literally see it through the pixels.
>>715902558Unfortunately CoD is apparently shitting the bed right now so there's a good chance this strategy pays off in the short term.
>>715903167What would the difference even be?
>>715896680 (OP)Whats with all the chink shilling of this game? All the videos and screenshots on /v/ are from chinks
>>715902558Movement is based honestly as it prevents me from dying to random controller players with developer sanctioned aimbot
I miss the sandbox jankiness of the old games
>>715903370Chinks doesn't care about NDA. Bilibili doesn't care about NDA. Which is why most of the leaks are from Chinese players.
>>715896680 (OP)Does anyone play this slop series anymore? It already died with BF4. Doesn't the latest one have like 4k peak players these days?
>>715896680 (OP)If I wanted to play CoD I'd just go play CoD.
>>715896680 (OP)The purchase of [current year] triple-ass turboslop should formally replace clinical testing for mental disabilty, as should any investment in publishers/developers instead of controversyfagging, drama-milling, engagement-padding marketing firms.
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When the music in Nexus changed after I finished second last portal thingy. Shit gave me goosebumps
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>>715903046Almost every FPS nowadays is just blindly copying MW2019's homework instead of doing their own style (I know, previous BFs also had tactical reloads but they weren't ubiquitous and spastic.)
I also miss the base viewmodel they had from BF3 to BF5.
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>>715903270CoD = Cartoon game
BF = Big map CoD with no SBMM
>>715903824Eh, fair enough.
>>715903270The difference between good CoD and bad CoD? No idea. All I know is my Youtube recommendation bar has gone from occasionally showing a video of whatever the new CoD season/meta weapon/Warzone play to showing multiple "Black Ops 7 has no hype?" "COD IS DEAD" "It's finally over... (Call of Duty Black Ops 7)" "I'm taking a break from Call of Duty" videos every time I look at anything FPS related.
>>715903929Lmao, they've been saying that shit forever.
>>715903167>there's a good chance this strategy pays off in the short term.I actually believe it. CoD is just ridiculous now, they even have Gundam collaborations. And blops 6 was an unoptimized garbage mess of a game. If they delivered the old CoD experience before they jumped the shark with Niggi Minaj, Terminator, and Gundam while having an optimized game they might make it with the normalfags
>>715903167BO7 (which is the BO2 nostalgia bait game) is also coming out this year, CoDfags and dude bros will do a 180 as usual.
Zero recoil but cone of fire bloom is horrendous, I'm sorry.
Pros
>your screen doesn't budge as you're shooting so you get complete control over your aim, pvre untarnished center of screen
Cons
>It feels like shit/nothing like gunplay
>it makes every gun feel the same, you tapfire or miss
>feedback on what you're doing wrong is horrible, you just start missing despite having your target like four shots in
Even Overwatch moved soldier 76 from no recoil and bloom to perfect accuracy but recoil and it instantly felt like he had a fucking gun
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>pre-set characters you buy skins for because they're still scared after the BFV controversy that had them cower out on some of their wackier cosmetic ideas
>cross-class weapons so the character/class stuff is solely what gimmick you bring because this game was built on top of 2042 and they're lazy cunts
>CoDMW reboot tier shaky weapons/cam and recoil, BO6-style super spastic hopping and diving around because DICE don't have any ideas of originality that aren't "more level destruction and copy CoD"
Is their target audience really stealing the dissatisfied CoD players, or are they just incompetent and uninspired?
>>715903613Pretty much. If I wanted to see hyper's shit reloads, I'd just play any CoD game that came out after 2018.
>>715903780I blame hyper.
>>715904482DICE moved to Embark/The Finals where they're doing funslop shit like a smash bros mode and a mode about landing grenade launcher airshots
Current day DICE is a bunch of interns who are being screamed at to make mw2019 and will instantly be fired if they don't make as many numbers as the latest friendslop
>>715901550>>715900861well are you going to reply or not
>>715896680 (OP)>gun in the air when sprinting>exact same sounds for every gun>shakey cam when shooting>weird off brand modded guns instead of just a normal ak-47 or m-16 >jewish kike women black dei slop propaganda british army uniforms that fit way too perfectly with no wrinkles wear or tear on the models>women screaming eveywhere gay as fuck maps
>denationalized factions just to make sure you aren't too immersed >made by resentful college educated mellenial scum with 0 real world experince, that hate gamers and everything masculine, purposely making everything as cartoonish and immature and gay as possible while still getting your dollar>running animations straight out of anime> zero balance just a bunch of faggot wannabe streamers jumping around at hyperretard speed streaming on youtube in a neon lit faggot ass mancaveshit like this makes me wish we actually would drop the fucking nukes id rather die
crash this whole fucking industry
if you buy this you are a literal fucking goyim and dont deserve human rights you fucking pig
>>715904471>It feels like shit/nothing like gunplayLiterally adds a skill gap.
>Even Overwatch moved soldier 76 from no recoil and bloom to perfect accuracy but recoil and it instantly felt like he had a fucking gunThey also made him a faggot. Such a great change.
looks amazing. Thank god no more lazers
>>715906109>>denationalized factions just to make sure you aren't too immersedAnd not to piss anyone off. Imagine if BF2 came out now with US vs Middle East vs China.
I just want sliding removed from every fps game
>>715898557And bf3 was trying to get 7th gen modern warfare audience
Your point, subhuman
>>715906181Ooh such cool skill expression of tap firing every gun in the game, so much better than learning how a gun kicks and responding to it
>>715906990Guns in arcade shooters barely has any substantial recoil. So yeah, spread adds more skill gap as mongoloids will still try to full auto in ranges they shouldn't even after you describe them how spread works and how to control it.
>>715899387>>BF4 had good gunplayi never said that you retarded moron, learn to read
i said BF series died with 4
>zoomer>t. boomerfaggot larper, you are probably a fucking gen alpha little retard
fuck you
>>715906690>And bf3 was trying to get 7th gen modern warfare audiencerevisionist faggot, that was never the case, cod was on a downward spiral at that time and BF3 and 4 dominated, they were completely different genres of shooters
>>715907061nigger every fps plays the exact same now, how is this any different from the spastic bo6 omni movement?
>>715907406>completelysI'd say slightly different. Maps like Metro definitely were trying hard to get the CoD audience.
>>715907678>Maps like Metro definitely were trying hard to get the CoD audienceexplain how
>>715896680 (OP)women soldiers, dont give a fuck, never playing it
>bullets don't go where you aim
I LOVE IT. THANK YOU COUNTER STRIKE! I LOVE RECOIL "PATTERNS"
>>715907742It was smaller meat grinder map with no combined warfare (i.e. tanks, jeeps, helis, and planes).
>>715907968>smalleryou never played metro
it was an urban warfare map
>>715908051Nigger you never played BF1942, BF2, or 2142. Shut the fuck up
>>715908096i did, i played all of them, you werent even born when they were out
you never played real BF
suck a dick retarded faggot
>>715908161Keep crying little zoomer. Strike at Karkand is an urban warfare map, metro is just a meat grinding where you prone in a corner in a subway grinding out weapons
>>715908343keep coping retard
>>715902558yeah I'm not spazzy enough to play this garbage. when did we decide that APM was what made good fps gameplay?
>>715908448>still no argumentYou lost
>>715896680 (OP)for me it's the horrible airsoft kitbash uniforms
>>715907406>revisionist faggot, that was never the caseRight
That's why there was a map like Metro in bf3
Neck yourself, untermensch
>>715907406>revisionist faggot, that was never the caseBF2 players were calling BF3 a CoD clone lmao.
>>715902558Imagine going to the range and seeing this shit
>>715896680 (OP)Everyone uses a cronus zen on console anyway so it doesn't matter.
>>715896680 (OP)bless the chinese
>That's why there was a map like Metro in bf3
meanwhile in 1942
>fart
I accept your concession, subhuman
>>715896680 (OP)does this game have aim assist like cod? if it does im not playing this shit
>>715898113>>715898435how are mw2019 and mw2022 different
>>715909906MW19 has faster movement, has moderate visual recoil.
MW22 has worse movement, awful visual recoil.
>>715909815It does, but it also has a console only crossplay option so normal people aren't forced to play against TwitchTV adderall using PC nerds with wallhacks.
Have fun with the PC version dying 6 months after release, you fat social degenerate.
>>715910169The pb is PC players playing with a controller
>>715896680 (OP)Looks great. I loved MW2019. This is the correct way to go especially now that CoD ruined itself with the fortnite skins.
>July 31st
Is it time for /bfg/ revival?
no recoil & lazergunning is trash and ruins mp games
>>715911096Honestly it's shocking that modern DICE have enough restraint to keep their character cosmetics looking like Tom Clancy knockoffs instead of going full cartoon retard for Fortnite money.
>>715911921>season 0 looks good surely it'll stay this way foreverHow do you keep falling for it?
>>715898557Well, for starters, this outing is made by Respawn (with help from DICE-LA)/Vince Zampella, who worked at Infinity Ward for CoD4 and CoD6 (before being pushed out before CoD8) so write that down...
>>715901838I see, makes sense
>>715899387t. console nigger abusing aim assist
>>715912041Because 2042 never did which is what I'm referring to. And I fucking hate that game. I can give it props for THAT much.
>>715899387>35Quiet Zoomer, the Elders are talking.
>>715912041don't be harsh on him
>>715900738>If I miss you then you shouldn't be accurate eitherNo shit, that's what suppression is supposed to be. What is your point?
I'll agree that in BF3 it was too fucking strong (and the perk to pick for anyone in a squad that didn't already have it picked) but you're fucking stupid if you don't get that was the entire point of the mechanic.
You come under fire? You get into cover.
>>715901452>You lose fights because someone else shot first and missed.Skill issue. If you can't hose them down from the hip in ball-touching close range, what the fuck are you doing?
>>715908497When RTS players joined.
Same shit as RTS and ASSFAGGOTS, unironically. And since ASSFAGGOTS grafted itself onto TPS (Rivals) and FPS (Snorewatch), the genre has been over since ASSFAGGOTS has taken over +5 EXP that CoD4 introduced to shooters.
>>715912254Put a shirt on him and it wouldn't be that bad. The Vaan effect.
>>715898717this but me using 'roller on pc
>>715896680 (OP)I thought people just tap as fast as possible in battlefield?
>>715902558I hate this sanic fast movement in shooters. You are a soldier that is carrying at least 70lbs of weight in armor and equipment. I want there to be WEIGHT to your fucking movement. I know it'll never come back, but I honestly miss having stamina in games
>>715903046I know right? That shit tries so hard to look tacticool that it makes it seem like it's your local mall ninja who's doing the handling, the fact he jiggles like he's made of pudding at the slightest motion also doesn't help, everytime I see these gay ass animations I don't think "wow that looks so cool I wanna play this!" but instead I'm repulsed
>>715913798They are instantly countered by any kind of armored vehicle, even so, I understand what you mean.
>>715911705what the fuck is a 'COD Next' event?
>>715898717>t. autoaim controller fag
>>715898113And thatโs bad because?
>>715912292>You come under fire? You get into cover.BF3 had 150ms TTK, you had no time to get into cover.
>>715914352>Call of Duty NEXT is a real-life event related to the Call of Duty franchise that began in 2022 and serves as part of the reveal campaign for the concurrent Call of Duty game. The event features developers interviews and livestream gameplay from content creators and influencers invited to play.
BFBC2 had the perfect formula for a BF game
Each gun had a distinct feel to them. Sound was amazing and there was only heli's and no jets. As much as I love jets, it really unbalanced the game because it requires you to have a massive fly zone to fly in the map which fucks with balance
>>715912404>BFgroid doesn't understand how the mechanics works in his favorite game series>Wants to remove mechanics that prevents the series from turning into cancerAs expected desu, you are the reason why DICE removed spread from BFV and turned it into a much worse system
>>715896680 (OP)>new AAA slop is horribleWOW, I haven't seen that happen in the last decade at all.
>>715896680 (OP)As someone who had played it, it is horrible. Literally unplayable actually
>>715912254So nice of them to bring back Soi Kratos after his cameo in the BFV marketing material.
>>715914923I always advocated for no jets and only heli. It's already hard enough to balance land vehicle with infantry
Also you feel to disconnected from the rest of the game while flying a jet
>>715904539who makes better weapon animations, then? hyper has been doing this shit since the source days
>>715914705the devs behind that game at least from the gameplay perspective maliciously avoided changed or made changes in order to pander to a playerbase that is awful at the game. if you are decent or good you will get punished due to how the game works all from ranging footstep noise, map design, how your character handles a weapon, the attachments and perks which are encouraged, and even the god damn radar working in favor of shitty players since gunshots dont pop up only on the stupid compass which is useless
>>715914923Is it true that the VSS was the most OP weapon in the game?
>>715914923They should throw BC2 and BF2142 together.
I would buy that.
>>715915284No, that was any shotgun with slugs.
>>715915284The VSS was amazing, and then it never came back because every FPS uses the VAL instead.
Niggers.
>>715915809>every FPS uses the VAL instead.If you had a game that had both, how would you balance them so that they're different?
>>715916000You can't because they are the same fucking gun unless you force dumb shit.
>>715896680 (OP)>disable hitmarkers>disable camera movementand that's it, fixed
Sweetwater will be included in a battlepass as a skin in BF6
>>715915031How was vehicle gameplay?
Which class was the most OP?
>>715915267The only thing he's been doing since the source days is acting like he's hot shit and making fun of the status quo. Now he is the status quo. He's only been doing this garbage for less than a decade now. As for what makes better weapon animations, it's a nice balance of realism and flashiness.
>"This is actually one of the most difficult aspects of my job, especially as time goes on and Iโve worked with so many weapons. Before I start, I usually research how the weapon is operated if necessary. I do try to keep it realistic to a point. I donโt go full realism because itโs often boring and flat. If you want to be tactical, for example, you should always keep your rifle pointing forward when reloading, but frankly, that doesnโt make for a very interesting animation. So, often I will meet a weapons expert and theyโll tell me that I made a mistake here or I should have done this. Usually that โmistakeโ is a creative choice to show off the weapon or make it feel unique or special. I do keep it balanced though, as I donโt really add super flashy actions to my animations like twirling a pistol or flipping a magazine before inserting it.">Chance GlascoThere is quite literally an art form to reloading. hyper's is erratic and unbalanced. Therefore ugly and like this Anon
>>715913912 said, it's repulsive.
guns have actual recoil instead of laser beams on full auto
OMGGGGGG IT'S LITERALLY OVERRRRRR
Predict the song they'll "remix" for the reveal trailer
do you niggas still play these multiplayer shootan games? aren't you sick of them yet?
>>715914610Esl's can't read what they're replying to, a sad state of affairs I'm afraid.
>>715918735>do you niggas still play these multiplayer shootan games?No.
>aren't you sick of them yet?Yes.
>>715916000I feel like nowadays enough people understand that the as val and vss are similar enough that you can't really do anything else other than have it be a stock attachment without people thinking it's dumb. That and the vss's intended purpose has no point in a video game about regular open combat, so the only thing people will ever use it for is as a submachine gun-type weapon anyway
>>7159160002042 basically had both. You could use it as a low RPM DMR and a high RPM SMG. Issue wasn't the seperate modes of the gun but you could use plus system to switch between them on the fly.
>>715900861>>715901550been 3 hours you fuckin niggers, why talk so much shit if you're not even going to bother with input of your own, afraid we'll call you a hypocrite or something
>>715898557BF has been a CoD clone since Bad Company 2
>>715896680 (OP)play Delta Force
come home white man
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>>715896680 (OP)better then wokepedo king bananananannananana
>>715902558>go from bf4>to this fucking shitcall of duty getting so popular was a huge mistake
>>715896680 (OP)Am I missing something or does it not have much recoil?
As for me, I think this looks dope, but I won't play the game anyway since they don't want neither linux nor mac people playing their games.
>>715916000Make VSS good at medium to long range. hard lock it at 20 rounds per magazine
Make Val good at close and medium range. hard lock it at 30 round per magazine
>>715899387>Bf1 is the only game in this entire fucking series with good gunplay.Elaborate on this. I personally couldn't stand the overblown spread of full-auto BF1 guns. 5's spread-to-recoil conversion was done way better, IMHO
>>715921669Ok you're brown, go play CoD or BF
>>715918735I still play BF3 on PC from time to time. Best time to play is on weekends and early in the day since thats when Euro players are online.
You guys should jump on too from time to time.
>>715902558>I hope the retards defending the 'open weapons' or the current class system are going to get what they fucking deservethey will get maybe a year worth of "content" while shitting on the game that they themselves wanted to have, then move on to the next game like all modern youtubers do
>>715917952It's gonna be some hip hop rap isn't it, we're never going back to the classic orchestra
>>715903780The guy that worked on the reload animations left dice in 2018, and the guy that did the BF5 animations left in 2022 to work for Embark. DICE doesn't have any animators that have their own touch to animating things, and the ones that're left just copy what the most popular style is, which is the Hyper-like cancer that
>>715904539 mentioned.
>"Surely this time it'll be good!"
It's fascinating watching this sort of behavior.
>>715904805>DICE moved to Embark/The FinalsI swear there's so much Battlefield in the Finals it's not even funny. Feels like I'm playing BC2 at times. Shame they're ruining their game by catering the balance towards braindead casuals that can't play for shit.
>>715916762Vehicles were an afterthought at best, the maps available in all the playtests have been small and cramped urban areas that prioritize fighting in narrow alleys and inside buildings.
None of the classes necessarily felt "OP", but the majority of people were using the assault class because there was one assault rifle in particular that was clearly better than every other gun in terms of recoil/damage/hipfire accuracy.
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>>715912254LMAO did these niggers literally make the same skin TWICE?
>>715916762most op class is probably going to be support. infiinite ammo AND heal is genuinely retarded
>>715922619Something spooky about 2018.
>>715915284Nah, G3 fucked hard.
>>715915153>Also you feel to disconnected from the rest of the game while flying a jetwhat do you mean? some guy going 60 and 0 has no impact on the battlefield? As much as I hate plane and jetfags, they have a noticeable impact on how your game might go. If they're good at harrassing vehicles, the infantry just needs to clean up after them.
>>715896680 (OP)>>715902558This is just MW2019s gameplay.
>>715923172Fuck-up with Battlefront and then even bigger fuck-up with BF5
>>715920742what even is this game?
I grew up with the originals and this just looks like a bf3/4 clone
Where's the singleplayer sandbox?
LITERALLY nobody cares about battlefield nigga
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Battlefield YouTubers like Jackfrags, Matim0 and levelcap completely ruined the franchise for me more than the actual games itself. They act like itโs still bf3/bf4 DICE and want to appease them for the inside scoops and perks but DICE just completely ignores the core fanbase and does whatever it wants.
Then comes time for the new battlefield to release, they endlessly hype it up as a return to form and once it releases and the player count drops by 85% they start to moan and complain to make much needed changes.
These faggots havenโt done anything for the Battlefield community other than be a corporate shill.
>>715923538It's like Modern Warfare 2019 trying to be BF3/4. Lol.
You asked for this the moment you fags chose to make "realistic tactical shooters" the norm which means ungodly recoil from people who never shot a gun before.
>>715900197>Which is why spread is essential to have in BFbased and true
>So many clueless console redditors are asking for higher recoil while they also hate spread.I went on the BF reddit the other day to see if there's any new leaks and holy fuck do those faggots have the most ass takes regarding Battlefield. It's like they didn't even play the same game. They fellate the fuck out out of the older games but don't even understand how they function on a basic, fundamental level. Each and every single time I check that place, I see ass-backward takes which makes me wonder why and how the fuck these people are entrusted with giving feedback and directly influencing BF6.
I dont care what anyways says, but the map design in BF3 was so GOATED. Seine Crossing for example was perfect urban map. Tank and Infantry was perfectly balanced. Streets were wide enough for tanks to drive in but a ton of hiding spots for infantry in mult-level buildings that could completely ambush you and wreck your shit if youre not careful. That and the tanks very low rate of fire, really well thought out balance.
>>715922835>the maps available in all the playtests have been small and cramped urban areas that prioritize fighting in narrow alleys and inside buildings.
>>715920742That shitty fucking character should be fucking banned i swear to fucking god who tought it was a good idea to give an assault class a roll and a fucking free escape button, combine that with niggers with extra speed cheats and high aim assist and its imposible to win.
>>715896680 (OP)>recoilWhere? I don't see any.
>>715923735This faggot deleted the 50k vlog where you could clearly see his wife's fat ass & tits. 10 years later, I'm still mad about that.
It's surprising that he still has a somewhat alive youtube channel.
>>715924061>Seine Crossing for example was perfect urban map. Tank and Infantry was perfectly balancedabsolutely not, my guy. You could easily push the enemy's shit in if you had a semi-competent team. I like the map but it was not balanced at all.
I think CS2 has a perfect natural balance for guns. There is recoil and spread to limit long range engagements but other than that it's largely about ammo
>>715924061Never liked that map, but the BF6 maps are small and don't give vehicles the space to contribute much. Their handling felt like Modern Warfare: Ground War more than Battlefield too.
>>715923969But isn't your guy supposed to be someone who shoots guns regularly and are trained to have nerves of steel? I think it's more
>shaky = realisticWhich of course is full of fallacies if you go deep enough into that discussion.
If you couldn't tell by now, I definitely did not ask for this. But I guess most people actually did.
>>715924492>>715924701which Urban map with vehicles would you say is the GOAT? Karkand?
>>715925685Urban maps were never that good for combined arms but the Aftermath ones were decent. Talah Market was god-tier IMHO
>>715925346I never said it made sense I said normalfags love high recoil "high skill ceiling" gameplay even though they still play like it's fucking Django or Max Payne like in the webm above where the guy backwards crouch prones every 2 seconds whenever they aren't camping.
>wouldn't military operators have the highest recoil controlYep we literally have machines to train them all to shoot mg42s while being thrown by a platform and experienced ones hit every shot as steady as possible. Only new recruits cannot. One problem they are never deployed without being ready.
Again none of it makes sense it's just what normalfags think realism is so game companies will sell it.
Again 90% of these people have never shot a gun irl before.
>>715899387WW1 is boring though.
>>715925346>>shaky = realisticmost reloads or gun handling animations are overdone, they're made to be a spectacle. IMHO the best animations are simple and utilitarian, A guy that reloads his M4 for the 1000th time isn't gonna have shaky hands when he does it in battle.
>>715926076The Aesthetics and ambience made it superb, itโs the closest any FPS multiplayer has come to being cinematic in its immersion. WW1 might be boring but WW2 has become absolutely stale.
>>715926056Well, I had a feeling you weren't, so it was more of a general/rhetorical question. You are correct on all counts.
>>715926192>A guy that reloads his M4 for the 1000th time isn't gonna have shaky hands when he does it in battle.That's actually why I think flashiness isn't such a bad thing to depict. Your guy gets so used to it that he can do some cool little tricks with no significant downsides. It's like using a knife so long that you start to just twirl it. It's not really practical, but you can do it, and it demonstrates your skill. But shakiness is just plain ugly.
>>715925685I've always loved Karkand. BF4 had probably the best urban maps though. BF6 map design so far feels very much more so like modern COD games. If 2042 maps were way too big and open then they've gone completely to the opposite extreme by making them very small and focused around like a single city block where vehicles can only hang out around the edge and everybody sprints around the middle indoor areas.
>>715902558game mechanic where your guy runs out of breath and collapses if you do this when
>>715927609Max Payne 3 did it right if Max does it too often with no energy and hits the ground on his elbow he does indeed take damage and has to take a second to get up after manually inputting to get up.
Funny how a game from over a decade ago got this right before modern shooters have.
I like how everyone in this thread is complaining about the movement when the movement was also fucking garbage in everyone's "favorite" Battlefield 4 with spastic shitskins bunnyhopping around at 50mph with AEKs
>>715928265BF4 didn't have the modern recoil mindset of tactical shooters to conflict with 90s-2000s movement shooters.
>>715926076And BF1 was not because they made concessions with realism
>>715928265I played BF4 for hundreds of hours on PC and never saw it.
>inb4 that's cap lil bro gotta hop on that locker 24/7 frfr
>>715896680 (OP)>>715902558Holy.
Fuck.
I literally haven't played Battlefield since BF3, and I've previously enjoyed BF:BC2 and BF2.
I cannot believe modern Battlefield is legitimately going to blatantly steal movement and gunplay from MW19 and Apex: Legends.
What in the fuck is happening?
>>715929415Uh they own Titanfall, REO Chudwagon
Fuck this.
Watch Battlebit finally release that update right after the BF beta and everybody will praise it as better than Battlefield again.
>>715929741yeah all 100 people still playing it
>>715911901and it's not ?
recoil looks good actually but to your surprise long barrel ars and ak-74 barely have any recoil on full auto and with proper control you can get extremely tight groups with low effort for very long sprays (15+ rounds) in real life
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>>715911901Ok.
Good news most people are gay enough to agree with you and you have the right to be gay.
However as stated in this thread it makes no sense and is gay.
If you want a high recoil projectile dude realism game do not have it set with military operators have it be a game about people with no training in a first gunfight and the story is as simple as aliens forcing people to do it in everyday life for survival.
>>715923786it's also like 50% bots per match
>>715900127>>won't do the blue neo BF3 filter>t. Didn't play the BF3 alpha
>>715927426>BF4 had probably the best urban maps though.Which maps? Ive always thought BF3 maps were way better than BF4. And when I say urban maps, I am specifically talking about good Urban maps with heavy vehicles.
Seine Crossing and Karkand were great. The aftermath DLC Palace and Monolith were good too