Thread 715905804

How would YOU feel if you spent years working hard on your game and people talk THIS much shit?

>>715905804 (OP)
i worked for years and my game was ignored
at least people know he exists

I would not stream myself coding or doing anything in first place to begin with, this dumb nepotistic retard deserved every single bit of it.

If he had spent years of hard work on his game it would be out already. He's making a shitty Earthbound/Undertale clone.

>>715905804 (OP)
I'd feel like I need to learn about game development.

>>715906510
its a nightmarish hellscape
easily the worst job in the human race ever came up with
its Sisyphus on steroids
there is great rewards to be had that's for sure but it's no easy task

What are you even saying? Paint it in MS Paint so I can understand it.

>>715905804 (OP)
this bitch deserved it

>>715906246
Bad code is one thing, but claiming to be Bob Ross of coding, having a 7-year game dev exp at Blizzard Entertainment®, being first second generation (due to nepotism) and pretending to be a hacker and wrting this garbage code is something else. All he needed to do is click on mana gem or say my bad.

>>715906826
>having a 7-year game dev exp at Blizzard Entertainment®
No way he said that

>>715905804 (OP)
I would probably regret building an online persona on the lie that I have 20 years games industry experience and used to "hack powerplants for the government"
Yeah. I think of all the mistakes to make, claiming to be an industry veteran and superhacker when I know I've never even taken a class on coding let alone been allowed to actually contribute to a Blizzard game in any other way than running into walls looking for exploits- that would be the biggest one.

>>715905804 (OP)
>Shart bound

>>715906956
I don't think he claimed to be a developer, but yes he constantly mentions he works at Blizzard.
One think he DOES say is that he has 20 years industry experience. Pic related is him repeating this in the description of his most recent stream.

>>715905804 (OP)
I wouldn't put myself in such a situation. It's feasible I'd create a bad game. I wouldn't egregiously lie for years (or at all) about my coding and game-development experience.

>>715905804 (OP)
I could never care any less about what a fucking parasite thinks about my game.

>>715906956
https://www.tiktok.com/@atefcoding/video/7526301152909069590
He was saying all the time that he was working on wow. Now he is just a blizzard red team hacker or some shit like that. But in reality all he did is send emails to other employees asking for their password. Every single manager wanted him out, so they were promoting him until high enough manager could lay him off and not be fired due to his father connection

>>715907817
>I nepo worked at blizzard when it was already shit
lole

>>715907817
>>715907957
There is a quote in Shartbound where Jason wrote that "in the corporate world you never move up, only sideways" or some shit like that. Which might be reflective of the fact he had to be passed around and never really advanced

>>715905804 (OP)
if he really cared about his game he wouldn't have given up on it

Some of the breakdowns of his shit is hilarious. Like the enormous numerically indexed array of event flags, or the lighting engine done in CPU that drops the game to like 15 FPS despite being a shitty 2D undertale clone XD

>>715905804 (OP)
if it was anything other than an anti consumer weird corporate bootlicking take i'd feel bad for him, he deserves it

>>715905804 (OP)
A:
>so if i understand correctly this is what skg is all about?
>correct!

B:
>so if i understand correctly this is what skg is all about? that sounds fucking stupid
>NOOOOO! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!! YOU HAVE TO WATCH 3 SEPERATE 5 HOURS VIDEO ESSAYS EXPLAINING AND READ OUR ENTIRE MANIFESTO TO TRULY UNDERSTAND
>ok i did that and it still sounds retarded
>FERRET FUCKER! THOR! REEEE!

The only reason people are attacking him is because they were tired of seeing him in YouTube Shorts. Considering this is another witch hunt out of Reddit, every claim against him is false until explicitly proven which none of them have been.

>>715906956
There are entire compilations mocking the dude for the insane amount of times he mentioned working at blizzard

@715908306
>IM BEING CONTRARIAN ON THE INTERNET AND ONLY (YOU) CAN CORRECT ME!!!!!!
You don't get this (You) until you write better bait.

>>715908610
Sorry, this was meant for >>715908306

715908610
Ok but you still took the effort to respond

>>715905804 (OP)
Is he finally getting shut down? I was so tired of this guy for the past two years pretending he was a dev hacker pro etc along with his fans sucking him off.

>>715905804 (OP)
where is that cropped image of him grimacing even from

>>715906826
>a 7-year game dev exp at Blizzard Entertainment
he wasn't even a developer, IIRC he was "art director" or some shit like that
he never touched development

>>715905804 (OP)
It's like when troons went "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME" and forced people to find out gender reassignment doesn't work.

>>715905804 (OP)
Heartbound is barely even a videogame. It's 99% walking and dialog, AFAIK there is only 1 combat encounter in the entire game. And he's been working on it for 8 years.

>>715905804 (OP)
Vuòtures never pecking at something until it's already down and dying.
Dramatubers and "game reviewers" are the same, only punching down when something is safe to talk shit about.
Mandatory rape for all of them.

>>715905804 (OP)
It's poetic. For someone who view themselves as the authority, regularly shit talks and try to get as much attention as possible, he can't handle any of these on the receiving end of it. To have his work and work hisotry audited and checked, to have people criticize or shittalk back to his shit talks, to have negative attention and be put on the spot not a pedestal. His retarded shorts were everywhere, every video game video essay nepo-bootlicker would go out of their way to quote their cool friend pirate software slash twitch about elementary programming shit and ask viewer to check him out. Why would anyone pick the name pirate software while worrying about studio and publisher going out of business.

>>715908148
I used to work with a guy like that. I guess it was cheaper for the company to try and find something for him to do since I don't think there was any nepotism going on. But man, the guy went through every department trying to find one single thing he wasn't horrible at.

>>715905804 (OP)
>his code is bad
AKA: Some faggot nerd doesn't like how his own game is coded

>he didn't work as a dev
Correct. Nor have I ever seen him claim to have been a dev.

>his ego is too big
To a zoomer being able to reach the top shelf at 6'3" is considered ego. To tell someone to stop being a sob story is to have an ego

This entire situation is making me think of Sam Hyde's gorilla nest video where the only reason he got shit is because he didn't bend the knee to some autistic retard (Harland/Ross) and directly called them out. Which to a zoomer might as well be pissing on their mother's grave during the funeral.

Can't wait for this shit to be dead by Halloween.
>inb4 thor
Get new material, you faggot zoom zoom.

>>715906826
Wait Thor worked at Blizzard? I had no idea.

>>715909060
He was part of QA and also spent some time on their social engineering protection team or some shit.

>>715905804 (OP)
>narcissist got found by the sloptuber horde
probably the worst case scenario for this dude

>>715910126
Case in point: this retard listened to the e-celeb gossip train nitpick this ONE SINGLE POINT on his resume and ran with it ignoring everything else.

>>715909812
It wasn't cheaper. But being the one that hired a guy that turned out to be a useless fuck will look bad on your record. That's why useless fucks get promoted to other departments so they're no longer that managers problem. It's called the Peter Principle or Failing Upwards.

>>715909726
>regularly shit talks and try to get as much attention as possible, he can't handle any of these on the receiving end of it
This is the wildest one for me. The supercut of him shit talking Ross and SKG is so unbelievably fucking rude and unnecessary and he would never let anyone else talk to HIM like that, but the very polite criticism he got from people like MoistCritikal was crossing a line

I still think about the fucking
>used car salesman garbage
line all the fucking time. What does it even mean? Was it meant to mean anything or did he just think it would smear Ross? I would be fascinated what the thought process was

>>715905804 (OP)
>spent years working hard on your game
If he had people wouldn't be shitting on it the way they do now.

i spent year(s) making a game and people skip the tutorial, play for 10 minutes, complain they dont know what to do, then refund
people as in like 30% of my players

/v/ - Kiwi Farms

>>715910374
Don't something like 30% of players never get the first achievement in a game or something?

>>715910089
And by now he has three Big Black Defcon badges.

>>715910474
The joke here is that those defcon contests are team efforts and you will never get an honest answer from him if you ask what exactly he contributed.

>>715910319
Actual autist.

>>715910319
>line all the fucking time. What does it even mean? Was it meant to mean anything or did he just think it would smear Ross? I would be fascinated what the thought process was
It's projection.

His code is bad, but it isn't any worse than any other indie game. Undertale has spaghetti code just like Heartbound. The difference is that Undertale is actually a good game, whereas Heartbound is basically trash. I honestly don't even recommend pirating Heartbound, it's a waste of bandwidth.

>Look at this monthly progress updates
>Fixes 3 bugs and adjusts the font on some dialogues
7 years at blizzard

>>715910463
I think it's more like 85-86 get the very first achievement but by the end there is only 20% who got the achievement for beating the game. People buy games and either don't start them or don't beat them.

>>715910810
I'll put money on it you jumped on the Undertale hate train as well until you actually played it.

>>715906956
he has said that before.
and got mad when people said he was not a developer because he was QA
and then he made a tweet basically doing the reddit
>QA.
>IS.
>DEVELOPMENT.
which is extra funny because people found a clip of him saying that QA was important, but it was not game development (which is 100% true btw)

>>715911000
>completely ignores the rest of the resume and focuses and the 1 thing some sloptube retard said
WE GOT ANOTHER ONE

>>715907114
You can tell whoever made that vid is a /virgin/ /pol/tard btw.

>>715910860
The only reason he even did that is because Valve started showing on store pages of Early Access games if their development seemed dead to warn buyers. Jason, being the slimy asshole he is, saw that his game was going to get the "It hasn't been updated in a while" thing so he pushes out tiny localization updates every month.

>>715910023
>Correct. Nor have I ever seen him claim to have been a dev.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y03L5KlXDLg

>>715910995
this post is nonsensical

I'd wish my dad happy birthday.

>>715910374
That means your game is shit. The fact that you think sitting through some retarded tutorial is good game design should be the first thing you work on. Selfish cunt, you're already asking for money, don't ask for more.

>>715911249
>says he works at blizzard
>never said once he was a dev
You're a nigger. You're the blackest retard gorilla nigger I have ever seen.

>>715911216
It's also sitting at Overwhelmingly Negative/Mixed so it's not like those small updates are going to do anything to make it look better

>>715911249
First second generation blizzard employee sounds like something DSP would say to make himself feel better. Like
>I'm the best SF2 player in north america
But he actually finished like 5th behind a bunch of japanese and it was a terrible version nobody wanted to play.
Very narcissistic statement.

>>715911074
>the rest of the resume
Which didn't contain any dev work.

>>715911489
Once again, he never claimed to be a dev.

>>715911485
all lolcows pull out their plays from the same playbook

>>715911665
Yes. He did when he was first starting out. He only backtracked when people started giving him flak for it.

there's one character that PirateSoftware reminds me the most

>>715911665
But he really obfuscates the fact and hopes that's what you THINK when he constantly repeats how he has "20 years of experience in the game industry and 7 years in blizzard". If you can't see this you're either disingenuous on purpose or fell for his grift and now coping.

Many people talk shit about him, but it's not enough to be honest.

This is him gaslighting the father.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-xJjiS4wcA

>>715905804 (OP)
>spent years working hard on your game
>working hard
The game is in a sort of abadoned state, and the code is complete garbage.

>>715911363
His dad is kind of a dick to be fair
https://www.twitch.tv/yearjoy/clip/ThirstyDignifiedGoldfishOpieOP-XY4ha9yHY_SGGdF_

>>715905804 (OP)
Me, like right now? Probably kill myself.

The me that's a millionaire with a shrinking yet still huge dedicated paypig fanbase? I wouldn't say anything. I would listen...to the money that is still pouring in. I certainly wouldn't argue with weirdo dramaslop youtubers.

>>715911485
It's just his way of trying to make being a nepobaby sound cool.

low iq narcissists are the best kinds of punching bags because literally no one likes them and they cant stop making the worst decisions in every moment

>>715911848
you're talking to Jason

>>715911812
Still waiting for the proofs.

>>715911848
This fucking post summarizes perfectly how retarded SKG is where they don't even have a fucking understanding of English.
>i worked at dave's garbage company
>so you were a garbage man?
>no. accounting.

Programmers and devs are the annoying teachers of the real world, who cares if their code is badly written, the guy is already a mess, if the game works it really matters?

>>715911871
Is he?
He's at the very least making an effort not to "deadname" Jason, just like he requested before the stream

>>715910810
>His code is bad, but it isn't any worse than any other indie game.
Other indie devs don't claim to be 20 year industry veterans and present themselves as coding gods who never make mistakes.

>>715911871
There is something obviously up with his relationship with his kids since Jason's brother also didn't reach out to say happy Birthday, but it was probably a case of he was too focused on his own career to pay attention to his kids so his kids don't care all that much about him.

>>715911972
>if the game works

>>715910474
>I like potatoes, narwhals and bacon

>>715911972
his game barely functions however? Some guys showed it off best with how he did lighting in a specific area where the code was so inefficient that it would tank you to single digit fps

>>715912001
He was never a video game dev

>>715910374
You should find a way to kill the player should they fail the simple objective in starter area.

>>715912121
This is just sad now.

>>715911972
No one would care if the game was good or finished, and it doesn't help that Jason tries to portray himself as a l33t hax0r so you'd expect better from him

>>715912121
so in other words he never worked in this industry for 20 years

>>715910374
no-one wants to read a fucking powerpoint presentation in order to start playing a video game.
either make a game with mechanics simple enough to intuitively grasp or make a good tutorial that teaches the player through gameplay instead of text dumps

>>715908306
Eternal protip for the Maldavius defence force: if you have to misrepresent and make shit up about the situation, you are in the wrong.

>>715912184
>>715912236
Show me specifically where he claimed to have worked on video games.

>>715911972
>if the game works it really matters?
The problem is that it does not work and the game is not finished.

>>715908306
I can't even begin to imagine the kind of bug person that willingly defends megacorporations.

>>715911365
I saw someone play Uncharted recently. You get a small pop-up that simply says
>Press the O button when laser enemies are aiming at you to be harder to hit
Just to watch the person get killed over and over by said enemies because they wouldn't roll, and it was on easy mode too

Not even the anon you were talking to but I've seen it so much where a game literally tells someone a mechanic just for the person to not read it and he confused about it for the rest of the game

>>715911972
he hasn't finished the game in 8 years
imagine him going back to edit or add something to one of the original scenes in the game. Imagine he goes back to 8+ year old code. Do you genuinely think he remembers what he wrote 8 years ago?
You think he remembers what the array called "array" holds?
What each of the indices mean?
You think he's going to have an easy time reading through 15 nested if statements and 2 useless switches?
People like to say shit like
>oh his code being unreadable doesn't matter because he's a solo dev
Sometimes the new dev is yourself, a year later, when you've completely forgotten what you wrote in the past
that's why it's important to write good code

>>715911972
>who cares if their code is badly written
>who cares if an author can't figure out the difference between there and their you know what he meant
You are stupid.

>>715911968
>not understanding what obfuscation and misdirection mean
Are you really so fucking retarded you don't understand when someone is trying to brainwash you into believing something that isn't true?

>>715912458
It's his game, nigger. He's not exactly making it for everyone to have access to.

>>715912347
Are you, honest to God, trying to make the claim that Jason never intended for his audience to believe he has experience in video game development when he kept repeating over and over again how he's a 20 year industry veteran and worked at Blizzard?

No any other copes or deflections, just answer this: Did he intend to give that impression or not?

>>715911815
>Is there anything you CAN do?
>Yes, now that you mention it, I'm rather gifted with Nepotism Charms. Otherwise, all those CEOs would've never hired me.

>>715912063
If jason was my son i wouldn't care about him, either.

fartbound.

Imagine defending a lolcow that even reddit makes fun of.

>>715912471
I took it more as him being proud to have worked at Blizzard. This is the 1 thing he does have an ego on but rightfully so.

>>715905804 (OP)
He streams himself playing games, drawing boxes in paint and yapping to chat for 14 hours a day. He does very little work on stream and I can't imagine there's enough time left after streams for him to do anything meaningful in. The only "code" he frequently has visible on screen is a YAML configuration file for a Minecraft mod that someone else is doing the Java programming for, he sometimes edits a line or two in this file to make it look like he's doing something.

>>715905804 (OP)
I would feel motivated to prove them wrong

>>715912515
He took $20,000 from Kickstarter 8 years ago and you are defending not having a finished product by now?

>>715911972
The game isn't finished though, and he has spent the last like, decade hyping himself up as a master coder.

Nobody gives a fuck about Toby Fox being unable to code because Undertale released in full and is functional.

>>715912529
I'm still waiting, faggot. You argue like a woman BTW.

>>715912347
What do you think this tweet means, Mr. Honesty?

>>715905804 (OP)
People probably wouldn't be as harsh since I wouldn't call myself expert pro exBlizzard dev and god hacker. I also wouldn't not update it for 4 years while still selling it and actively recording myself not working on the game

>>715912679
Or what does this tweet mean?

>>715912660
>leftist argument style
Go back to r/politics, cucklord

>>715912603
>being proud to have worked at blizzard
You mean the laughing stock of the game developer world? You think that's something to be proud to have been part of? If I were hiring people at a studio and they had blizzard as a former employee i'd toss their shit in the trash.

>>715912771
Eat my entire ass nepo baby

>>715912549
kek

>>715911972
>>715912515
1. His dogshit code makes his own work needlessly difficult and hard to maintain. It's the equivalent of trying to write a novel but instead of using a keyboard he has chosen to use a system like those old video game character name inputs where he has to navigate to each letter individually. It's his game, but he's handicapping himself for no reason because he's too dumb to do it properly. He's also scamming his audience who funded his kickstarter by deliberately dragging the development out.
2. Nobody would care about the code quality if he didn't pretend it's flawless and perfect (because he worked at blizzard!) People are pointing out the discrepancy between his make believe credentials and his actual work.

>>715912695
>>715912768
>10 years in 2018
>20 years in 2023
Is he a time traveler?

>>715912695
Advertisement. A lil sus, yes. But standard advertisement you'd see anywhere else. Are you that sheltered or do you get giddy when companies talk about "Good ole family values"

>>715912679
Concession accepted.
>>715912768
Fucking lmao.

>>715912864
He's simply that powerful

>>715912864
He has been known to hack time

>>715912871
>yes well he did claim that but he was lying for money

>>715912871
>Show me specifically where he claimed to have worked on video games.
Are you trying to move the goalposts? Very dishonest.

>>715912864
That's just how hard he works. One year of Jason counts for 2 regular top tier developer years.

>>715913012
This only reads as that Navy SEAL copy pasta.

>>715910374
game?

>>715912805
>trying this hard to be contrarian

>>715912820
Mad af. Called out.

>>715912768
I'll give you credit that you had to dig to find ONE tweet.
>>715913012
But then you immediately discredit yourself by posting this shit
>where did he work on vidya
>posts a tweet that says he didn't work on any vidya

>>715912979
Yes.

Jason started to crack in his discord, recently stating that his employees and ferrets will suffer due to loss of revenue from streaming from all those "smear merchants" lying about him
>LOOK WHAT YOU'VE DONE TO THOSE POOR FERRETS, GIVE ME MONEY

Let's be honest, people are only hating on his game because they don't like him personally. Otherwise it'd be another mediocre quirky earthbound inspired rpg about depression with a weird fanbase that considers it a masterpiece.

How much sophisticated code can this shitty 2D game really demand? Most gamers don't care so long as they aren't getting bricked/save data wiped.

Also, these kinds of youtubers are dogs. They only make these videos as an opportunity to get ad revenue off of the latest controversy. If it was any other dev making a shitty awful indie game, they wouldn't say shit because it would be wrong to call some wholesome chunkerino chungus indie devs game shit (even if it is)

>>715912864
He worked at Blizzard as a time hacker

>>715912679
>You argue like a woman BTW.
Extremely ironic when this is literally what you've done yourself this entire thread. You come up with this single silver bullet gotcha that "if Jason has not claimed to be a dev in literally these exact words" you somehow "win" and nothing about the way he markets himself and obviously tries to fool retards into believing he's more knowledgeable than he actually is matters. You argue like a BPD woman who has constructed an entirely separate argument in her head and then gets progressively more and more mad when everyone else refuses to play this semantics game.

>>715905804 (OP)
>work for decade for a private company
>do something stupid
>get fired
This is what is happening to him right now, nobody forced him to act like an ass and nobody is forcing him not to apologize

>>715910374
It means you need to make a better tutorial and hook anon. It may not be the easiest thing in the world but try to play games similar to yours and see how they were able to hook players without being boring in the tutorial. Game design is a real skill and you get experience through exposure

>>715913154
His wife divorced him when she found out what he does to those ferrets

>>715913212
Last panel, in the painting.

>>715913212
It's shit.

>>715905804 (OP)
Those are not people, those are maggots festering on a corpse.

>>715913212
>Let's be honest, people are only hating on his game because they don't like him personally.
yes, the greater the raise the greater the fall.

>>715913154
He should just STFU and go on a 1 month hiatus. Then again, as the other anon said, if he's raking in money still in addition to has millions he has no reason to stop.

>>715913226
No retard. I wanted to know when he claimed to have worked on developing video games and so far there is 1 tweet I've seen that confirms this which in the mountain of shit against him isn't much. Because for this entire day I decided to look into this Reddit drama and couldn't find shit except a bunch of "WULL ACKSHOOALLEY!" arguments by fags hopping on the bandwagon.

>>715911968
>i worked at dave's garbage company
>so you were a garbage man?
>no. accounting.
The situation here is more like someone making talking about the garbage industry his entire career, giving hot takes about the realities of garbage company work, pretending to have insider info about how garbage collecting works while constantly reminding everyone he has 20 years of experience at Dave's garbage company. It's fucking obvious what he's doing and you're either a retard or the grifter himself if you claim otherwise.

>>715913212
Wait a minute... that green on green color scheme.

>>715913551
GOOD
GOOD
GET FUCKED

>>715913312
his ferrets mysteriously die from rare cancer that makes them bleed from anus to death. Extremely unfortunate, sadly they were out of mana

>>715912347
>>715912679
>Show me specifically where he claimed to have worked on video games.
>I'm still waiting, faggot. You argue like a woman BTW.
Weird how you're all quiet now.

>>715913551
nigga just apology like I would be fucking livid if I was employed by this fag

>>715913615
I can't believe their rare cancer makes them secrete human cum before expiring.

>>715913529
How is that wrong? If I'm an accountant of a garbage company, while I don't collect garbage myself, I can give insights as to how finances in the industry works, no? And again, what is advertisement?

I feel bad for the chick that did the spritework and the composer, those are pretty good.
It's the writing and gameplay that are abysmal AKA the shit this retard worked on.

>>715913628
>come ask me stuff related to me working on my game
Ah, so you're autistic and don't understand. Got it, Ross.

>y-you're quiet now
>ignores the (You)s i gave him
You're literally doing Internet tough guy shit right now

>>715913717
He was a qa tester for 6 years. That's his entire game development experience at blizzard.

>>715913479
>No retard. I wanted to know when he claimed to have worked on developing video games
But this is something only YOU decided is the big linchpin of the entire argument. Literally everyone else knows what the fuck he's doing when he constantly talks about his "20 years of game industry experience" and how he worked at blizzard. He's a social engineer manipulating gullible retards into thinking he's a veteran gamedev because his entire public image is being le heckin Bob Ross of coding who keeps revealing insider information about the video game industry. The fact that he (usually) carefully skirts around literally calling himself a dev is not the point, if anything it just makes him even more scummy because he's obfuscating on purpose.

He's a grifter and you fell for his grift.

in last month or so he lied
>about Rivals of Aether 2 getting review bombed
>getting SWATTED twice
>people threatening to kill him
>his code is shit intentionally due to ARG
>making monthly updates to his game
>Brazil being so backwards they have no shaders technology on PCs
>Shartbound running on a smart-fridge
is there anything I forget?

>>715906214
post gayme

>>715913717
>How is that wrong?
Because he's not talking about accounting. He's talking about garbage collecting and presenting himself as an expert in garbage collecting because he has 20 years of experience in the garbage industry.
>while I don't collect garbage myself, I can give insights as to how finances in the industry works, no?
In this case, you would be giving "insights" as to how garbage collecting in the industry works.

>>715913916
>ignores the rest of the resume again
Jesus fuck.

>>715913931
I never gave a fuck. Only thing I know is this shit came from Reddit which implies it is nothing. Like I said, only today I decided to look into this and didn;t find shit.
>what's the best way to solve a problem on linux?
>call linux shit because of the issue and wait for someone to tell you how to fix it

>>715905804 (OP)
I think the faggot youtube grifters might be even more annoying and pathetic than maldavious figtree.

>>715913975
>>Brazil being so backwards they have no shaders technology on PCs
...Did he seriously claim this?

Jason's dad
https://www.twitch.tv/yearjoy/clip/ThirstyDignifiedGoldfishOpieOP-XY4ha9yHY_SGGdF_
>He can probably tell you-I don't think I abused him in any way shape or form. Probably should have, probably would have turned out better.

>>715913479
Thorin Oakenshield, upon reclaiming the treasure of Erebor, succumbs to dragon sickness, prioritizing the gold over his friends and even his own safety.
He has dragon sickness. The money is too good but it has corrupted him.

I don't get how people even people ITT can defend him. His code is worse than yanderedev and he's spent almost a decade almost nothing to show for it. Everything else about him shows him to be an asshole.