How the FUCK do you beat this whore? This is worse than the DS2 gank fight. Also Moore went from "he cute" to "I hope he rots in hell" after two rot pot throws.

Just summon. It's an invader gank fight, it doesn't count

>>715920992
you didn't beat the game

>>715921648
>this nigga thinks nuzlocke is a requirement too

>>715920904 (OP)
Letting the NPC run into fully charged UGS R2s
Like every other NPC fight

>>715921648
My Steam achievements say otherwise.

>>715921970
I have no problems with Freyja and Hornsent but then Moore, Dane and Leda appear almost simultaneously and seem to have infinite stamina while chasing my sorry ass so there's no openings, fucking Moore cockblocks me with his shield smash and rot pots too. Even if I get a nice double sweep then they still have one estus each. I likely will summon after getting frustrated enough but I'd like to do it normally. I'm two-handing a bleed halberd with giant hunt btw.

>>715922621
>Normally
Normally literally is using at least Ansbach, better yet poison femboy too
They are part of their story and are supposed to be there anyway and have dialogue

>>715922621
Yeah, if you beat them using the way the game tells you to do it that's dumb and means you're retarded and gay.
Keep going and you'll beat them eventually.

>>715920904 (OP)
The DS2 boss isn't a gank any more an Ornstein & Smough were, it's three distinctly different enemies that work together. That fight is a gank where they just throw a bunch of enemies at you.

>>715920904 (OP)
ds2 boss fight is more fair because you can use the environment to your advantage. Here its a big ass open area and its aids when you are a pure strength build with no gimmicks.

>>715921648
>boot game up
You didn't beat the game

>>715920904 (OP)
I havent played ER but i heard the whole point of this fight was having a large bunch of friends against their large bunch of friends, with some dialogue across them

>>715921648
If you didn't summon for this fight and original Radhan, you didn't beat the game.

>>715920904 (OP)
Literally one of the easier fights.
>Miquella on the other hand

>>715921648
You will never get the full experience
https://youtu.be/rpq2fUk56Mo?si=yQjil1uyluDz5kOT

>>715920904 (OP)
git gud

>>715920904 (OP)
Kill Freya or kite her until Ansbach summons in, then kill her.
Kite Dane.
Kill Moore. Tholier should've summoned in by now.
Kill Dane.
Kill Leda.

Don't get double teamed or you'll die. Let Thollier and Ansbach take the heat off you.

>>715921648
Summoning causes dialogue between all the members except the dryleaf guy so it’s ok.

>>715925134
Also if Hornsent is here you're fucked, his Falx can fuck you up.

This fight gets easier if you skip questlines btw.
You should summon for it because it’s just a brawl between the story characters and it’s pretty fun that way. It’s just an NPC battle against NPCs with tons of health and access to estus otherwise.

>>715921648
>missing out on kino dialogue because you let /v/eddit think for you

>>715921648
>nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you HAVE to fight the NPC with 500000000000000 HP and bloated damage that 3 shots you FAIRLY ONE ON THREE
ok
>stun locks the blonde bitch with dragon maw
ok you can rupture your anus now.

>>715920904 (OP)
>attack shrimp man on sight because i've been conditioned to do so from the base game
>that made moore mad and invade me so i killed him in self-defense
>later learn this stops him from showing up in the gank fight
violent knee jerk reactions have never failed me in these games

>>715925620
Apparently there’s a quest to drug the dragon priestess and it involves Moore but I’ve never done it since she disappears after beating Bayle.

>>715925716
Its Tholeir if I recall correctly.
When he gives you the sleeping potion you can roofie her at nighttime and then after resting she will join you as a summon since you broke her vow of not sleeping to Placidusax.

>>715921648
>Missing out on your coolest bros coming to bro-op against the simp army
>Also bad at the game
Runeless behaviour
>I STAND WITH BLADE ALOFT
>BLOOD AFIRE
>FOR THE DIGNITY OF MY LORD AND MASTER, MOHG

>>715922219
>>715924474
>>715924853
>>715925573
shitter cope
you can do it op, just kill the first two summons quickly then hit and run while prioritizing the hat guy

>>715925716
yeah i missed that quest the first time. you get her as a summon if you give her a date rape drug the poison guy makes after he refines some shit found by moore you deliver to him. kind of a strange way to get a dragon girlfriend but whatever.

>>715925992
>you can do it
You don't get it though. It's a shitty fight. A shitty fight doesn't deserve my time and effort. I summon Alexander for the Fire Giant too, because it's a shitty fight. I would never summon for a good fight that deserves my full attention though

>>715925924
Yeah but thiollier asks you to go get the potion from moore.

>>715920992
>>715921648
It's such a fun fight with 2 human summons + the full gank squad. The fact that people are depriving themselves of pure soul(s) multiplayer kino to try and feel tough and get extremely frustrated is pretty funny to me.

>>715921648
>this post still causes so much cope
kek based keep it up

FUCK LEDA

>>715926836
A distressingly large number of anons want to beat down and dominate evil women with their dicks.

>>715926752
>kek ba-ACKKKKKKKKKKK

>>715926903
I don't think she's that bad.

>>715926903
>>715926836
Evil women deserve to be impregnated.

>>715926987
that's the wrong finger

>>715920992
>>715922621
OP here, tried it a few more times, got to Leda and Moore but then she pulled a new, blender-like attack and killed me so I said fuck it and summoned Thiollier and Ansbach (it really was fun, thought that they'd just hack away like mute chumps). I'll leave Radahn for tomorrow.
>>715925979
Every time I talked to Ansbach I thought that making a vicious murderer from a blood cult such a genuinely nice guy was a verry jarring decision coming from the writers room.

>>715926987
>>715927073
>Leda fell onto my chest with a look of contented joy such as I had never seen before, and I certainly hadn't expected to see from her. I'm not sure if she even noticed me playing with her hair, she wasn't conscious for very long at all. I wondered if I would ever enjoy any woman like I enjoyed Leda the Needle Knight. In another world, another life, maybe we could have been bound together unto death, but it would never work here, she was devoted to a master I was unsure of, and there was something dormant in this woman that made me uneasy. I knew Ansbach felt it too, and I had taken to him more quickly than anyone else in our group. His sense of honor and fealty was erected on foundations much more stable than Leda's. I knew then that we were almost certain to cross blades. I tried to expel the thought and let Leda's sweet breathing lull me into the most blissful slumber of my life.

>>715927073

>>715927208
Ansbach is a professional with standards, he's a knight

>>715920904 (OP)

What i fucking love about this fight is that if you do all of the side quests with the characters, fulfilling their stories, you get more of the boss fight encounter as a reward as each one of them invades your arena to kill you. The game is fucking punishing you for being friendly and social, its great.

Ansbach and Thollier are great though.

>>715927318
>gif

>>715927332
What was Lord Mohg's employee benefits package?

stop falling for evil women /v/

>>715927529
Free cuppa and blood sausage every morning

>>715927073
After holding her down and forcing her submit to the dick.

>>715927208
Ansbach implies Mohg wasn't a deranged bussy destroyer before, Miquella's charm spell hijacked Mohg and the entire blood oath into what they currently are by the time the game starts.
We also know the formless mother worship is not a cult of murderhobos, in fact the formless mother is the one who asks the worshippers to draw her blood, Miquella did some fucked up shit to Mohg.

>>715920904 (OP)
You can off half of them by helping Leda kill one of them, not doing one of their quests and telling Moore to be sad forever.

>>715926903

I love the subtle fact that she fully acknowledges the lack of Tender Miquella's charm more or less returns her to being a psychopathic killer, she is just that infatuated with the false peace of mind she got from serving him and would undoubtedly kill just to return to it's graces once more.

>>715926226
>beat game
>thought whatever
>do it with summons and cheese enemies since i already beat it
>have fun
cant believe I was so retarded to get brainwashed by other retards

>>715928073
Been a while, but weren't the two she went after dicks? Ansbach was cool with the Tanished, but he was a blood noble, which implies a long list of fucked up crimes, while Hornsent is a hornsent, with all the shit that implies.

>>715926903
Is it implied that her true nature is bloodthirsty and that Miquella was actually keeping her on a leash?
I get the feeling Miquella was like this for all the characters he was controlling and that his attempt to find a consort was a desperate attempt to revitalise and bring some reasonable order to the lands between.

Honestly, people really exaggerate his evil nature when I just see someone punished and burdened and with a child mind trying desperately to find someone strong enough to help him.

>>715926836
unwavering, psychotic loyalty, even without brainwashing. it's too bad. she dies only because she lacked a good master.

>>715928342
Even by being very generous and pretending that everyone else was a literal saint who couldn't harm a butterfly, which is wrong because every single lord as blood on their hands, we know nothing about what Mohg and his posse actually did before the brainwashing and why.
We do know Leda has a lot of blood on her hands though, especially her former knight comrades' blood whom she personally killed, so she doesn't get to play holier than thou given she's the single most bloodthirsty character in the game, not even Ranni tells you to off as many people as Leda does.

I feel so bad for Messmer. The dude was groomed into this monster and he was just trying desperately to do what he thought was the right thing.
Then the person that groomed him just betrayed him, outright.

He was also just effectively banished too.

>>715928498
You could say that for the entire world of ER though.

>>715920904 (OP)
Have a weapon with an AoW that NPCs don't know how to deal with like Marika's hammer. Fuck all the NPC fights, I don't want to deal with that shit.

>>715928902
not everything is a cute girl though

I>>715926836
t'd have been cool if she was actually your friend, but that's just FROM npcs in general. I think Nightreign was the closest they got to camaraderie between characters, but only because all the controllable characters had their own personalities instead of being blank slates.

>>715925979
>Righteous Tarnished. It appears that our interests have aligned. A balm upon my soul it is, that we do not meet today as enemies. Now, my blade. Watch closely.
That shit gave me goosebumps, I wasn't ready for him to be such a badass.

>>715929220
There's plenty of ER NPCs that become friends with you
>Blaidd
>Iji
>Alexander
>Millicent
>Rya
>Blackguard
>Nepheli
>Ansbach
Leda is just too much of an omnicidal yandere simp to be friends with anyone

>>715930007
Being a psychotic saber is what makes her hot.


>>715930000

>>715928491
Leda is basically a Miquella yandere who was hyper paranoid and killed anyone who she thought was a threat to him.
As for the boy himself the issue is that by the end he had shed himself of all that thing that would of made his rule worthwhile. Casting away both Trina and his capability to doubt himself meant that by the end all that was left was his ambition and urge to rule.
before he was the kid who thought that by lying he could make everyone get along.

>>715926226
I wish people would regularly summon there, I've played my sign but never gotten summoned

>>715920904 (OP)
git gud scrub

>>715920904 (OP)
Just marry her

>>715929220
I hope the next Souls game has your love interests as one of the final bosses, a la Ayre. There was something thrilling about 1v1-ing Leda before PCR.

>>715920904 (OP)
Its a fun, semi tough fight if you are taking on the whole squad the first time. What worked for me was getting rid of Moore first as quickly as I could. Then probably Freyja, Dane and Leda alone arent that hard to handle. Of course once you learn how to get ride of Moore before Enir Ilim, its kinda piss easy at that point. Granted, it also depends on your build, I beat them solo with a bunga double great stars STR/FAITH build.

>>715928491
>and with a child mind trying desperately to find someone strong enough to help him.
It's impossible to take this train of thought seriously (as From wanted us to) when you actually think about what his plan actually requires to happen.

>all those 10/10 characters
>stuck on miyazaki fetish hell where they barely speak and are forced to fight you after like three lines of dialogue that make no fucking sense
suffering

>>715920904 (OP)
>Also Moore went from "he cute" to "I hope he rots in hell"
You were supposed to not tell Moore anything so poor autistic guy would stay on his initial place and became to rightful ruler of Shadowlands.

>>715934075
>Zanzishart........ nigger sneed................ *dies*
Why are From characters like this?

>>715934505
does Leda really say nigger sneed?

>>715927685
The Bloodfiends are even more retarded and murdery than Mohg's followers, what are you talking about?

>>715933442
The rollslop insult got to them. The DLC bossfights were too anime for rolling... Except this fight. I made up for the lack of rolling in that 4 minute fight.

>>715934075
feet

it's fucked up that there are two light greatswords in the game and wing stance can only go on one of them

I enjoy evil women but I am already exclusive to my blue puppet gash evil woman.

>>715928828
I cosplayed as Messmer's soldier with all it's weapons and everything. If only we can side with Messmer.

>>715920904 (OP)
Personally, I did the DLC co-op with a friend on our level 387 builds and we just sat in a corner alternating Waves of Gold across the entire arena while Ansbach held aggro.

>>715920904 (OP)
Bro, you fucking suck...

>>715938935
How was the final boss?

>>715934075
Ansbach is the only good NPC in Elden Ring.

>isn't insane, retarded, or nihilistic
>has a clear goal, which he works towards with your assistance
>only dies after accomplishing his task and getting a satisfying resolution to his story

>>715939053
He was still very difficult, we actually had to learn the fight and the moveset instead of just spamming him down like we did some bosses. Even in co-op, he was tougher than any boss I'd ever fought in a FROM game solo before, including charmless bell demon Isshin.

>>715920904 (OP)
Just as with the Ds2 gank fight, just summon npc's because while both can be done solo, they're primary designed to be fought co-op.

>>715936896
Three, actually!

>>715925620
You can also prevent Moore from joining the fight by:

1) never speaking to him after Miquella’s rune breaks, if you do this he stats a merchant even post Consort Radahn fight, and has dialog where he wonders where everyone else went

2) telling him to “be sad forever” when he asks your advice on what to do. This makes him kill himself and you can get his armour + sheild very early with no fight.

He only joins fight as a hostile if you tell him to move on and stop being depressed about Malenia hating her Pest children, he then decides to dedicate himself to Miquella willingly (previously he was brainwashed) which results in him fighting you later.

>>715940797
You can also get Hornsent out of the fight by summoning him for Messimer and talking to him afterwards.
Instead of joining Miquela he instead breaks down because vengeance didn't fill the hole and he instead invades you in the ruins.

>>715941096
>he instead breaks down because vengeance didn't fill the hole
That's not what happens there. If you summon him for Messmer and talk to him afterwards he gets cocky and decides to extend his vengeance to all of the Erdtree's faithful, thinking he can take on the world. That's why he invades you in the Rauh Ruins, because by that point you count as a target too.

>>715921648
>"This is too hard. I hate this"
>"use the very obvious mechanics that the game is shoving in your face"
>"Hah! what do I look like, a bad player?"

>>715921648
If the game offers a story summon and you don't use it, you didn't beat the game.
If you didn't summon Millicent for the Godskin, or Melina for Morgott, or Nepheli for Godfrey, you didn't beat the game.

>>715920904 (OP)
Git gud

>>715928828
>The way the story builds him up as some unrighteous warlord
>the way he dispassionately declares his own reputation
>"messmer's flame..." sounds completely cynical"
every detail was perfect.

>>715936896
There's three
One can't be two-handed or it uses the way worse dual wield stance.
One has a set Ash of War and has inherent Holy infusion (dogshit)
The last is Milady

>>715926836
She's loyal, smart and talented. She will be a good mother to my children

>>715920904 (OP)
you just have to use cheesy OP stuff while running in circles. Kill fatso Moore as soon as he spawns, then aggro either bruce lee or leda depending on which one of your companions is in trouble. never let them die, or you're screwed

>>715934075
The characters work perfectly exactly in Elden Ring you stupid nigger retard.
Leda is sociopathic and shares her misanthropic views with Miquella, the notion that humanity must be first conquered and then chained and controlled or killed is just her own self reflection because she is a paranoid and violent person.
Moore is broken and his one-sided devotion to Miquella and the faithful lies in their need for love which is unrequieted. He instantly remembers Malenia does not care for the Kindred of Rot the moment the charm breaks, and wants for the Light of Miquella to make them forget the pain.
Freyja wants nothing more than to be measured against enemies and does not care of the consequences and the cause she rallies for. She survives a mass murder only to serve those who orchestrated it because she lives solely for fighting
Hornsent is motivated by blind rage and even should he gets his revenge with the help of children of Marika, he will still see them as nothing but enemies to eradicate. He literally wears a mask to make him detatched from the killing.
None of those characters would be remotely as memorable if they didn't speak through their actions. It's the fact that deep down none of those has an healthy relation to Miquella's love and is motivated by flaws and experiences that makes them interesting. The whole theme is those characters' shadows.

>>715921648
Didn't see so many people respond to this bait in a long time. Well done, anon

brownoids be like
hnnnn white woman ugghhhhh *cums*

>>715945451
That's the spirit. Show that lady knight no mercy in the bed chamber.

>>715942842
Summoning Melina for Morgot honestly makes fight harder, she does fuck all damage, can barely hold agro, and the simple act of summoning her gives Morgot 60% more health and poise, so you can’t just blitz through his hp going from scripted attack to scripted attack. She does provide a bunch of healing, but it’s not that useful.

Same with Nepheli and Shabriri for Godfrey, the NPCs cannot dodge his stomps, so they eat every single AOE and end up basically stun locked. And summoning them massively boosts his hp/poise.

If you guys wanna goon to Leda you'd have an easier time just pretending that Sabeh is her. Lot more content

>>715947080
But Dung Eater on the other hand is a beast if you summon him.

>>715947304
I simply want to be locked into an endless 1v1 with her where we both mutilate each other forever

>>715945683
good high effort post
I enjoyed your analysis as someone who has read and watched hours of ER lore content
ty

>>715945683
>look at how great these characters are all while having 3 FUCKING SECONDS in the spotlight each!
nice word vomit retard, much like the lore you pulled out of your ass so did your response. Too bad that the whole point is that they work with what pittance they have in the game, not that they're bad, and they deserved more. The fact that hornsent has multiple endings and ways to confront you is a massive breath of fresh air in this series of retard zombies tripping and mumbling around

>>715948842
Ha, it was AI that made that post! You got tricked!

>>715947080
Morgott deserves the extra HP.

Can I get a quick rundown on elden ring?

>>715952557
Cultists torture local forest sprites to make God.
They succeed but God hates them.
God makes it so no one has to die anymore.
God fucks Tarzan and then goes and kills everyone that heightmoggs her. 1/3 kids wasn't a total disappointment.
God fucks her own clone. They both hate each other. Both kids are disappointments.
The Hand of the Real God makes her say bye-bye Tarzan. Invents a new group to be racist against.
Clone goes and seduces a nerdy wiccan chick who kept kicking his ass in PVP. Fucks her into a coma. All 3 kids this time avoided being failures, a true miracle.
God ends one disappointment child to the shadow realm to go murder all those cultists from before. Another disappointment has a bad rebellious phase and got erased from history.
Clone goes back home to marry God. Everyone regrets this. Both kids are mutants.
God starts to hate the Real God.
Wiccan chick's daughter starts to hate the Real God too. Kills the only son that God ever loved in a BPD episode with her girlboss gang.
God and her Clone fight over whether she's allowed to destroy the world. God kinda succeeds until the Real God's pet dog puts her in time out.
All of God's remaining children steal part of the fabric of reality and totally waste it.
Mutant Demigod Boy 1 takes over the capital city and hides behind a curtain the entire time so no one sees how ugly he is.
Mutant Demigod Boy 2 gets a blood fetish and starts his own murderfuck orgy cult in a cool way.
Normal Demigod Boy 1 larps as Tarzan and goes and beats up space aliens and loses some wars
Normal Demigod Boy 2 becomes a degenerate and starts his own murderfuck orgy cult in an uncool way.
Normal Demigod Girl lost her body killing the Cool Son, whoops, hangs out with her pet dog and favorite molester instead.
Mutant Demigod Girl got space AIDS and made that everyone else's problem.
Mutant Demigod Boy 3 is forever jailbait and thinks he's the Messiah.
God starts reviving zombies to kill her kids.

>>715954284
Don't forget that whomever kills her kids and her exes and her boss also becomes her new husband

>>715920904 (OP)
>>715926836
>essentially a yandere shotacon
miyazaki.. you bastard! my knees are moving on their own!

>>715954284
So it's just increasingly bloody incest?

>>715955573
>Written by GRRM

How the fuck does one cut away their kindness?

>>715920904 (OP)
I only had the old blood dude with me as an ally, I had to retry until I got lucky.

>>715926836
I'm busy fucking junko (male)

>>715955650
Best I can do is cut away your kidneys

>>715954284
What about the innards jars?

>>715920904 (OP)
why is this dlc so weird? was it made by a B-team or something? like, there's many golden seeds in the base game, more than you could ever need, then in the dlc you have the skibidi fragments, most of which are in hidden places, for some you have to kill generic pot carrying mobs or mini bosses and you have to get all of them for the max level. it's such a weird design

today I will remind the schizo

>>715958114
They say that about calories and yet I'm still getting fat.

>>715956218
Depends on where. In the Shadowlands, the jars are used to mash together bodies to provide he raw materials for sainthood.
In the Lands Between, jars store lost bodies to return them to the Catacombs and Lesser Edtrees for their eventual reincarnation.

One of the most memorable characters in Elden Ring, easily.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gM4pfuwqkrc

>>715925573
Unironically yes.
From games aren't about story. They're about pure skill. They're about overcoming the maximum amount of resistance. They're about winning when all the odds are stacked against you.
Summoning robs you of that precious victory.

>>715960030
Then you should stop leveling as well, because it only makes the game easier, and you're surely not a shitter that needs such a crutch, huh?

>>715960030
and that is why bosses will have 700000 hp and you will be allowed to attack only once every 30 seconds (if a randomly spawning aoe effect won't activate at the same time as your window). also why after all these years i started cheesing in the dlc. atrocious fucking game design.

>>715961826
What constitutes "cheesing"?

>>715962463
using the vertigras set and poking radahn and his epilepsy inducing twink bf to death with a scarlet aids weapon and blocking gaius and killing him with the mohgwyn spear bloodboon attack. the rest was bearable or kinda fun but i never went back to sote even though i like to fuck around in the base game.

>>715936618
Bloodfiends don't bother anyone who isn't a Messmer soldier, which is justified since they're violent invaders, or (You), they're content with staying in their neetcaves and eat saucy tartare steaks.

>>715963008
That's not cheesing, that's making a build.

>>715920904 (OP)
Moore is actually the worst npc in that fight, you're kind of screwed without burst damage or a shit load of boluses. Tried soloing them for a few hours with my normal str halberd and could only get Freyja and Hornsent before Moore's pot's hitbox fucked me over. Think I'd need to stock up on anti-rot if I were to try it again on my hand with that build

>>715963506
>on my hand
The fuck? on my own*

>>715961826
None of that happens, you're just dogshit at simple action games

>>715963156
>bricking the boss in a forever lasting charge while you drain his hp from a distance isn't cheesing
i mean, i have no shame for doing this because even the devs did not care about making it a good fight but i was definitely cheesing, as for radahn while it isn't cheesing by definition i consider completely trivializing bosses with a build created for that specific purpose as cheesing or at the very least skipping content, but again, no shame

>>715920904 (OP)
Cheesy rot or bleed builds, or mimic tear. This fight exists literally only to force you to respec in preparation for Radahn because Radahn's weaknesses are also cheesy rot and bleed builds. If you ever do this fight in NG+ (do not do this, DLC NG+ scaling is fucking retarded), they've all got literally like 50,000 HP and it's near impossible to not cheese them. ER Gank Squad is one of the clearest examples of the game being balanced around you respeccing into cheese. The game doesn't respect you at all, so don't give it the same courtesy.

>>715963814
what was that? miyazaki's cock is holding your vocal chords hostage you disgusting faggot

>>715925979
Ansbach's quest when you get to the Black Keep is so silly
>Talk to him
>Talk to him again
>Find Freyja in the ass end of nowhere in the map
>Talk to her
>Go back to Ansbach and talk to him
>Go back to Freyja and talk to her
>Wait a bit for something to trigger, I forget what it is
>Go back to where Freyja was for no reason
>Pick up thingie
>Now go back to Ansbach and give him it
Fromsoft questlines are such a fucking meme now.

>>715963825
Tbf i don't know what Gaius cheese you're talking about, but just using a greatshield and rot against Radhan is a completly legitimate strategy, like camping.

>>715964125
Again, none of that shit happens, you're just dogshit at simple action games and blaming them for your shortcomings, stick to FF16 or The Last of Us

>>715945683
Only post that understand sote NPCs

>>715922621
you are literally MEANT to summon for that fight you retard
the entire point is that it's a battle of those who support Miquella vs those who oppose him

also if you did the Hornsent quest properly he wouldn't even be in that battle

>>715956218
Imagine if the Indians reinvented Concentration Camps but in a cool way to own the Americans.

>>715964317
>gwuaq gwuaq, gwuaq
oh for... have some shame, anon!

>>715964572
Feel free to show how these bosses only let you attack them every 30 seconds and have random AoEs, oh wait you can't!

>>715959283
which honestly is a nice bit of lore
Marika took a symbol of the Hornsent atrocities and instead turned it into something positive

>>715964367
Getting both Ansbach and Thiollier on a blind run means you read a guide. Oh noooooooo you talked to Ansbach and Frejya in the wrong order after entering Messmer's Gooncave? Whoopsie bro sucks, you're locked out. Uh oh bro you didn't kill yourself over and over and over again for no reason with St. Trina's bathwater? There goes Thiollier, sucks to be you.

>>715922956
>it's three distinctly different enemies that work together.
They are three retards you backpedal and cheese with lifegem spam

>>715964703
if you took a break from sucking cock i said "will" as in "future bosses will have" as a result of the mentality in the post i was replying to. now browse your folder for more webms which i dont even watch lmao
>inb4 y-you *gluck gluck* - Miyazaki-san please stop for a second - are s-shit at the game
ok

>>715920992
https://youtu.be/1idFWG6xUUo?t=281
This is literally you fr fr

>>715965057
You know what you implied, don't make me repeat myself again and embarass you further
There's games like TLOU for you, stay in your containment threads and don't bother other people

>>715965248
I accept your concession.

>>715924952
>Miq and Consort
Beat them 6 times in a row at launch after figuring them out
>Malenia
To date, I've only beaten her 2-3 times in total. She's still more difficult than anything in the game for me, including the dlc

>>715965181
NTA but it's clearly meant to be a brawl between you and your bros, and Leda and her bros. 1v5ing the gank is the stupid contrarian way of doing it, unless you're literally a speedrunner there's no point. Ansbach, Thiollier, and the mimic are all coming out.

Best fight of the DLC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpq2fUk56Mo

>>715964813
you can't lock yourself out of ansbach, you can only lock yourself out of freya's quest which by the way, if you fail it makes that battle easier

>>715965373
Malenia is way more fair because you can just stagger her.
Even if you're playing a ranged build, PCR is just so overwhelmingly aggressive and tanky that you're constantly getting blitzed.

>>715964317
>>715964703
Based, dunk on these absolutely retarded scrubs

>>715965913
playing a ranged build is hard mode against PCR, his gap closers are way more dangerous than his melee attacks and less predictable

really the meme that magic is easy mode hasn't been true for ages, in DS3 dex weapons were king, in ER str weapons are king and shieldpoking the grand emperor

>>715965380
>The mere sight of your blade sets my heart aflutter.
>All the more I yearn to crush it in my grasp!

>>715965402
>you can't lock yourself out of ansbach
I thought you could with Leda's quest

>>715966618
you can but a random sanguine noble will appear instead of ansbach.

>>715966618
that's not locking yourself out, that's you actively choosing to kill him
if you get an option to side with Ansbach against Leda and instead choose to side with Leda to murder him that's not a Fromsoft issue that's a YOU issue

>>715966271
Magic is easy mode in ER but only if you meticulously plan your route in advance with like 30 wiki tabs open before you do anything, and that's because magic lets you really fuck around with quint-buffed kryptonite cheese strats on most bosses. However that requires being a guide reader, because otherwise, you're right, a "normal" magic run ends up just being Blue Melee or Yellow Melee due to how aggressive enemies are at chasing you down when you cast. This doesn't count in ER discussion on /v/ because everyone playing this game assumes you're routing your playthrough with the wikis and have long since forgotten how gay it feels to not know where everything is and what everything's kryptonite is in advance. This was a problem in DS3 but they made it way worse in ER somehow.

>>715966831
My first playthrough at launch was an ARC caster and I dabbed on the game by spamming Ezykes, lol, you people are just too dumb
Please stop assuming everyone is as dumb as you are, these aren't hard games to figure out

>>715965380
It was really great, the highlight of the DLC indeed

>>715966760
>wow Leda sure is nice, I bet she just wants me to check up on Ansbach to make sure he's ok

>>715966994
>I lucked out and found the most overpowered scarlet rot cheese in the game, see I totally invalidated your point about how ER magic is only strong if you know about the cheese or happen to find it by chance
Didn't ask

>>715966534
Don't do it! She'll break you!

>>715966831
even then since SotE that's no longer true, most magic cheese was nerfed and flat out doesn't work on the SotE bosses

meanwhile Lion's Claw goes brrrrt still works, and there is a very fucking good reason the PCR cheese build is Fingerprint and Antspur

>>715954284
>All 3 kids this time avoided being failures
one has a snake vore fetish
another gets AIDS, goes insane, and then marries his brother
and the last one gives the whole planet cancer and then blasts off into space saying, "not my problem lol"

>>715920904 (OP)
The foolproof cheese is to pick up and upgrade the fingerprint shield, put shield crash on it with bleed and stunlock them as they bleed and madness to death. Respec for enough STR to 2hand, enough END to midroll in the heaviest armor you have + shield, some mind and the rest in vig.

>>715967171
Not that guy but opening with Rot is standard for the Arc/Faith Dragongods.

>>715967525
Maybe if their father wasn't a deadbeat and didn't abandon them and their mother they would have grown up better.

>>715967612
these days anyone can do it
hefty rot pots are farmable and rot things in a single chuck
they also do it faster and more reliable than Arc/Faith so that entire build lost half it's reason to exist

>>715967710
Those aren't dragon themed. I don't want to use things that aren't dragon themed.

>>715967801
>wants to turn into a wyrm the minute the story ends

>>715964317
unrelated but guard counters are such a fucking weird mechanic in this game. sometimes the hit will miss despite the enemy being right in your face, and some other times it will land a hit despite the enemy being nowhere near you. i feel like the tracking is broken on this thing

>>715920904 (OP)
Radahn greatwords are great for cheesing any annoying enemies that use the player model.

>>715967936
Yes. They are so fucking cool.

>>715967401
>Having to look up where every single last individual normal smithing stone in the game is located because you have to ration the stones between your melee weapons and staffs/seals
Magic is such a pain in the ass to build around solely for this reason. Fuck magic. Just turn your brain off and pancake things to death with a Lion's Claw Zweihander.

>>715967959
>I guard countered but missed
>I parried but it missed
>I jumped but still got hit
>I rolled but still got hit
I can't empathise because with a little practice it's a non-issue.

>>715921648
Games are childish distractions. So what if they aren't beaten? What am I to prove?

>>715968282
You don't. You don't need +25 weapons. You don't need all 14 flasks. You don't need a fully upgraded flask. You don't need level 20 skibidi blessing. Even more so if you've already beaten the game once.

Lock-on and lock-on switching feels completely broken in Nightreign. Am I imagining things?

>>715968467
You're not imagining things. They made it so that right analog diagonal inputs are ignored.

>>715924995
>sad.... forever?
gets me every time

>>715968454
You don't need to suck my cock either but you're still doing it. Shut the fuck up about what I do and don't need.

>>715968651
Nah you're the one who is whining about having to suck cock despite it being completely unnecessary but you're right go ahead and suck it.

>>715968454
>>715968651
>>715968765
>SOTE thread turns into homoeroticism

>>715968828
The Miquella reveal invited the gays into the fandom. There's no getting rid of them now.

>>715920904 (OP)
>>715921648
If you don't summon NPCs for fights that lorewise demand you summon, you DID NOT beat the game

>>715964317
>guard counter mid-combo to evade the follow-up hit
vgh... lvdo...

>>715967171
Ezykes is literally sleeping out in the open fields and dragon spells are all busted, you don't have to luck out shit

>>715964317
>The boss isn't jumping around the arena shitting attacks everywhere
Huh, weird.

They don't fight like that on my screen.

>>715921648
>>715970843

>>715972312
This comic remake is garbage and whoever made it deserves to get beat up in public. The meme originally was about Mastodon's Blood and Thunder, and whole album was based on Moby Dick, therefore misses the charm and isn't as good.

>>715920904 (OP)
>wahhhh I have to beat everything solo, otherwise virgins on /v/ will make fun of me
>end up annoyed or even mad
>mfw I give all bosses a fair try and summon players, ashes or build around them if I can't beat them
>happy with myself and the game
why did elden ring mindbreak so many people? git gud used to be a positive slogan and fighting along your sunbros wasn't shunned

>>715965380
I consider this fight to be the true climax of the DLC. Fuck Radahn and fuck Miquella.

>>715974093
Igon is literally Ahab.

>>715974093
it's a good edit, anon