Thread 715930846

Why did Star Wars Outlaws fail?

female protagonist. only creepy asian "males" and homosexuals want to play as chicks

>>715930846 (OP)
The content it has is bland and the execution was one of the worst ubisoft ever put out. Probably should have been canned.

it's assassin's creed with a star wars coat of paint + an ugly protagonist

>CEO is sad that he couldn't sell a shitty game on brand alone
kek

>>715930846 (OP)
I saw mixed reviews on steam and just avoided like usual. Is it worth it even with a mark off?

>>715930846 (OP)
That cover art is brown as fuck.

Game is shit.
Nu-Star Wars is shit.
Ubisoft is shit.

>>715930846 (OP)
Why are the ubisoft ceo's so fucking retarded.
Look at jedi fallen order and how much that worked.
Game didnt sell because it was shit

the brand was less popular due to female leads, which the game had. also it was shit

>>715930846 (OP)
Because if you are gonna release trash better put the name Kojima in it at least

George Lucas was influenced by Frank Frazetta. You actually think dykes would be okay with that?

>>715930846 (OP)
Is that what he told Disney?

>>715930846 (OP)
western facescan happened

One day they'll realize that men only tolerate women if the women are pretty.

>>715930846 (OP)
ugly women have taken over the game industry. ugly women hate hot women.

looks ugly
ubisoft formula
not a jedi
boring, broken, linear, one-note gameplay paths for 90% of the game (fixed now but who cares a year later?)
female protag
I don't care what anyone says, I don't want to play a chick, period.

>>715930846 (OP)
Because it sucked balls and it was buggy as fuck, plus the animations were shit and it was a game made to pander for social justice retards.

>>715930846 (OP)
>it's not my companies fault for making a boring game no one wanted to play its the consumers fault for not liking the IP as much anymore!
braindead opinion

>>715931387
She went from Isabella Merced to one of the Bogdanoff brothers.

>>715930846 (OP)
I would agree that is PART of the reason, but that part is probably around 5-10% and the gameplay being shit, the story being awful, the mass amount of bugs, and the protagonist being fucking ugly were the real problem

>>715930846 (OP)
spent all their money on the brand they didn't have enough left for a good game haha

He pretty much nailed it, the SW license is dead, nobody cares about it anymore.

>>715930846 (OP)
The SW brand being less popular is only one part of the story.
Ubishit having a reputation for making shit games is the other.

>>715931387
Legitimately disgusting.

Why are these companies allowed to stay afloat? Nobody even likes Ubisoft. Can they just die already?

didnt fail with me. fun game. extremely well done atmosphere, arguably the best in any open world game. and despite the haters i really like the main protag. funny moments. decent enough story. all in all a pretty good star wars experience

but the game does suffer from many immersion-killers that all open world games do. such as horrible ai and side stuff/missions are bugged and half-assed

>>715933167
Mods, crush his skull.

thank you.

>because the brand was less popular
no shit lmfao where has this guy been since 2015??

Ugly main character and in general graphically unappealing
bad gameplay
poorly made, buggy, bad game design
despite all this it was expensive, had a season pass and other money grubbing
bad story in a ruined IP

>>715930898
Wrong, gay male here and I want bars studs and pretty boys
Outlaws' mannish femc was made to appeal to women and women also don't want to play a star wars game

>>715930846 (OP)
because it sucked absolute cock and Disney ruined Star Wars.

>>715934197
it was Muppet babies tier version of "smuggler" stuff.

its just typical of modern western media, they have rounded the edges off everything except Queer shit.

>>715930846 (OP)
Because it was fucking boring,buggy, and you couldn't even be much of an "outlaw" anyways. Star Wars fatigue is just cope.

>>715930846 (OP)
honestly SWTOR is the perfect SW games, you can live the life of han solo with smuggler, space james bond, jedi knight and their mistake is thinking singleplayer wants to become smuggler type when they're all want to be jedi. That's why SW games like jedi academy and KOTOR still had lots of players because everyone wants to be a jedi and not walmart han solo

>>715930898
FPBP.
>>715930846 (OP)
They know why it failed, the developers know, the publichers know, the shareholders know. They are liars, weak and pathetic rats who push these games because it is safe to do so and because they want to modify behaviors and thought. It's funny that from the onset people knew it would be trash except them.

they had dash rendar there, just waiting for them. and they passed. they deserve what happened

>>715934679
this, Jedi Survivor was a fine enough game, Star Wars is like anything, if its done good, its good.

same with people saying there is Cape Fatigue, please, if they made a 10/10 Super hero movie, asses would be back in seats.

they just can't make good games and they can't make good movies, total braindrain .

>>715931387
If I was the actress I would be legitimately offended that ubisoft did that to me.

>>715930846 (OP)
>ubisoft

>>715934787
you are not just conditioned to lie in big business, you are expected to.

going to your shareholders and telling them "we are going to put a lame chick in it and make it lame and gay" ends with you being sent to the fucking shadow realm.

but if you lie and it loses a ton of money, you can continue to do your job.

>>715930846 (OP)
>Star Wars has lost popularity
I wonder why

>>715930846 (OP)
it gonna fail again for the switch 2 late port

>>715930898
Nah, I liked the protagonist in the original trailer, she just looked like shit in the game. It flopped because it was another embarassing barely-finished AAA rugpull.

>>715934975
The same ways they put numbers of players instead numbers of copy sold

>>715930846 (OP)
He can't say it out loud. He had to say it this way so that the investors dont get mad, and their woke industry partners don't chew back on him. But it's totally a-okay to shit on their cow shekels aka gamers because they don't matter.

>>715931789
More like 30%, everyone hates Star Wars now. Yes, it's a shit game by Ubisoft that barely functions, yes, it's a game about snarky woman, but the IP is undeniably radioactive. There could be a good Star Wars game out right now and it'd flop (lick my taint Respawn staff that post here, I know who you are).

>>715934975
>going to your shareholders and telling them "we are going to put a lame chick in it and make it lame and gay" ends with you being sent to the fucking shadow realm.
100%

>>715931678
>Bogdanoff
As soon as I saw her face thats all I could think of.

>>715935152
pretty sure Survivor sold decently and was reviewed well, it was just Souls-Wars, the story wasn't anything offensive either.

I mean it didn't blow anyone's fucking socks off, but its certainly a decent game.

>>715930846 (OP)
I was kinda intrigued about this one after enjoying the respawn star wars games. Unforunately just like all the others it has fallen to the ubisoft curse.

>>715931387
>Warriors! Come out to play~!

>>715930846 (OP)
it was a bad video game

>>715934691
SWTOR Smuggler spends the entire game on someone else's leash

>>715934691
>honestly SWTOR is the perfect SW games
the total and absolute state of vee in 2025 kek

>>715930846 (OP)
Woke trash.

>>715931678
It's like they made her face too big for her head or something. It's really weird

>>715930898
Retard trying to fit in.

>>715935881
Is this from a game or is it just a skyrim mod?

>>715935971
Skyrim mod

>>715930846 (OP)
The reason why the brand is less popular is because it went from a boy's adventure starring characters like Luke Skywalker, Han Solo, and Darth Vader to Kathleen Kennedy's soulless, spite-fueled imitation starring ugly girlbosses and weak, incompetent, evil men. Often retroactively ruining popular characters.

If this had an appealing cast and felt like actual Star Wars instead of Disney Star Wars, it would have sold at least 5M.

Reminder that the biggest red flag for a videogame is when the cast is filled with unfuckable women.

It tells you everything about the mindset behind the game's development.

>>715930846 (OP)
The only reason I know that game is star wars is because the twitter vomit says its star wars. Also the CEO isnt wrong, Star War's reputation has sunk with Disney pissing all over it, but that isnt the reason his game failed.

>>715930846 (OP)
The brand was less popular.

>>715930846 (OP)
Because of the ugly ass protagonist that looks like a retarded kermit the frog/yoda

>>715935881
>I swear I'm just looking at her b-butt!
>5 years later: -ACK
YWNBAW

>>715930846 (OP)
I hate Kathleen Kennedy so I didn't buy it. Nothing against the dev.

>>715930846 (OP)
well hes not wrong, but his company also made a shit game threfore contributing to the brands declining popularity.

>>715930846 (OP)
"It willl sell cause it's star wars" mindset

>>715937259
Cute.

>>715937601
now make her stocky with no tits and weird arms.

>>715930846 (OP)
ubisoft will blame everything except themselves for their shit woke games that sell nothing

>>715930846 (OP)
ubisoft dont want to admit it, but even normies got sick of the ubisoft open world formula

>>715930846 (OP)
>Why did Star Wars Outlaws fail?

Girl boss protagonist fatigue and all those videos of how retarded the AI was.

Kind of a shame, it had some neat art design and the concept of playing a scoundrel appeals to me.

>>715937720
Yep, and they will continue to make trash game for the slop eaters

>>715930846 (OP)
>Make some ugly neanderthal the face of your game
Golly fucking gee why did it fail indeed?

Ugly protag. People expected something like saints row or GTA like. Instead it was just your regular ass ubislop gameplay formula.

>>715931059
From what I've seen of the game, not really.
Maybe if you can get it for $5 or something, and you're bored enough to not care about something jankier than eurotrash.

>>715931387
>>715935416
tfw the 20,000 hardcore members went soft all at once and just headed home.

>>715930846 (OP)
ubislop

>>715930846 (OP)
main character is ugly brown trash

>>715930846 (OP)
What are you talking?
It was a great success!
All the modern audience was playing that game.

>>715931068
Even AI slop looks a lot better and has more soul than that piece of trash.

>>715931387
What's the point of facescanning people and paying to use their likeness if you aren't actually going to use their likeness or face?

>>715931594
True and real.

>>715930846 (OP)
>No one cares about Star Wars anymore!
Says the CEO the same year there was a massive revival in Nu-Battlefront II and RoTS made record numbers in theaters

I'd go as far as to say Star Wars was having a renaissance if it wasn't for the fact that people are just consuming the old stuff that they liked, even if you argue whether or not that stuff is "good".

>>715935152
I dont agree. Make a mid fps shooter, call it Republic Commando 2 or whatever, sell 90% better than the 10,000 totally unknown SP FPS games in steam. Star Wars games dont sell themself like they used to but there remain millions of clone wars and whatever turbonerd fans that only really hate the sequel trilogy that they view as totally detached from their favorite stuff.

>>715930846 (OP)
>make your game intentionally unappealing to the average person
>"hmm why could our trash game have failed?"
>"we could blame the gamers again"
>"no lets try something new and blame the IP"
lol
lmao

I mean its not entirely wrong but that they made it like they did at all is part of the reason why the brand is failing.
Star wars as a brand has been hamstrung by a bunch of feminine writing; it could've been a colossus that was at the frontline of public consciousness for another 2 generations at least but they ruined it and now it'll fade into obscurity like every other sci-fi property

>>715939339
Honestly, the sequel trilogy is pretty detached from most everything that makes movies good, unless you're really, really, really fucking invested in Rey and only that.
FFS the 2nd one spent a good chunk of its screentime with largely empty space in a slow-speed pursuit, with ships just casually being plinked off in the most boring way possible. And disney wanted to give that motherfucker his own trilogy of films.

It didnt sell because the game was fucking boring

>>715930846 (OP)
Hmm what could possibly be leading to reduced popularity.

>>715930846 (OP)
Because Star Wars is a dead brand now

I mean what is he supposed to say? That his designers made a shit game?

>>715930846 (OP)
Because Disney killed the brand and have spent the last 10 years raping its corpse. I used to love Star Wars, I grew up on Star Wars, and now I just cannot bring myself to care about it anymore.
At some point in the future what Disney did to Star Wars is going to be looked on as a case study on how to destroy something previously so beloved by so many people.

>>715940952
Yes. Acknowledging WHY people didn't want the game helps increase customer confidence that you're listening and will work to address the problems. The head of a videogame company needs to be connected with the customers and needs to be able to talk openly and honestly about the state of the games. And you can't send different messages to different parties and expect the customers who are invested in their hobby to not notice. EVERYTHING needs to be done with the customer in mind, including things aimed at investors.

But they needed to take this mindset when they weren't on death's door because customers are done with them.

>>715941743
He doesn't want customer confidence he wants investor money. Saying "it's a bad IP just give us another chance" gets more money than admitting you don't know how to make a good game.

>>715930846 (OP)
Suits are truly fucking delusional. This is what nepotism leads to.

>>715941864
And you can see how that strategy works out in the long run.

Even BlackRock can't perpetually prop up an industry that's bleeding tens of billions of dollars with no signs of stopping because they've pissed off their customers and are ran with the efficiency of a communist factory. I can't think of a better example of putting the cart before the horse than putting investors ahead of customers. Customers must come before investors and employees.

>>715930846 (OP)
I'd tell you, but one: you aren't paying me and two: Ubisoft deserve to crash and burn.

now is the time to buy ubi stock

>>715942059
He won't be here long term. Literally someone else's problem. His job is to secure as much investor money right now and gamble on something they shit out becoming a mega hit to offset losses so they can do it again later.

>>715941743
You want a CEO to shit on his employees? Have you ever worked a company job?

>>715942580
People need to start pulling their money out of BlackRock and Vanguard, and ma and pa investors need to get smart about these charlatans who will destroy their life's savings because they don't know what they're doing and it's not their problem. It's not hard to tell when you're dealing with someone like that.
>megahit
Not coming without approval from customers. Which you're not getting if you maintain a company culture of making customers a tertiary concern behind investors and employees. AAA is dying because you can't make a game for gamers while also making a game for HR. One cannot serve two masters.

>>715942895
Sure, they have plenty of humiliation rituals for the people who should actually be in charge.

Have you seen the modern state of companies? If your employees are destroying your all-important relationship with the customer, you should shit on them. At a bare minimum, shit on their horrible work. But you really shouldn't have hired them in the first place. It's rude to the customers to demand that they keep supporting horrible products because you don't want to rock the boat by holding customers accountable and educating investors.

>>715930846 (OP)
I don't want ubisoft making Star wars games

>>715930898

Nothing wrong with female protagonists, you just have to make them actually entertaining.

Take Bayonetta for instance. She's a campy, over-the-top parody of a femme fatale, basically Jap Duke Nukem with a vagina, and people absolutely love her for it.

>>715932025
Nobody cares about it because of shit like this. If they were remaking the kyle katarn games, they'd be selling. No one wants to play as a snarky millennial activist, it's the most irritating character archetype ever conceived.

>>715930846 (OP)
if they just made the character sexy i'd have bought this game and coomed all over

>>715930846 (OP)
Because star wars is and always has been shit. As are Ubisoft games. Two turds do not make a right.

>>715930846 (OP)
Because it was fucking woke.

>>715943475
Also her legs are stupidly long

>>715943254
>At a bare minimum, shit on their horrible work.
You really can't because nobody is really responsible for anything. This isn't some spot welder being shit at his job, every single little thing in AAA vidya dev is a collaborative effort. It's all chain of command. Lead producers want a thing done a certain way, they will hand down the list of requirements to the department lead who will instruct his designers. Those designers do the thing, show it to their department lead who will present it to his producers and they decide whether it works for them or not and if not the whole game of telephone starts over again. And this is me leaving out a couple steps, especially if the involved parties are not in the same building or even on the same continent the whole process can take weeks.

It is LITERALLY impossible to nail a mechanical or systemic issue down to one person. So you want a CEO to blame the whole team(hundreds or thousands of employees) for the failure of a game? What if the graphics are amazing but the game is just really buggy? Is QA to blame? Those guys handed in detailed bug reports, they told the systems designers what isn't working. What if the mechanics are great but the story is dogshit? Well that's just highly subjective, our focus groups loved the story.

>we're making a star wars smuggler game
>awesome
>it's going to be open world
>uh-huh..
>the gameplay will be dated
>please stop
>and the female protagonist will be ugly
>why

>>715930846 (OP)
it was another ubishit open world clone but somehow even lazier than the rest plus dei plus star wars fatigue

>>715931059
No. Especially if you're not using the Ubilauncher already.

>>715931357
Yes. He's trying to renegotiate royalties.

>>715931789
>>715935152
I think it's an interesting quesiton, how much blame goes to who.

>>715930898
explain bayonetta and og lara success then

was ubisoft's last good game far cry 5?
felt like all the talent left the studio after that and it has been nothing but slop since

>>715930846 (OP)
Tired Ubisoft open world formula and no jedi main character.

>>715944115
booba

>>715934875
>if they made a 10/10 Super hero movie, asses would be back in seats.
frankly I'm not so sure about that any more. fatigue is fatigue, just look at the recent box office numbers. people seem fine with going out to see trash in droves with that shitty dino movie, yet capeshit is still underperforming despite it being motherfucking superman in his first solo film since the late 00s.

I think it genuinely is franchise fatigue at this point. star wars and capeshit is simply unfashionable now and both are at the death stage of the cycle of fads, just like western flicks.

>>715930846 (OP)
Because they can't help themselves and have no clue how to sell Star Wars these days. Lightsabers are stun batons instead of being like older games and movies where they cut through any and everything and everyone wanted to be a rogue like Han Solo or Dash Randar more than some chick who gets to backhand Stormtroopers in the helmet for knockout blows. Add in the paid Season Pass DLC advertising Jabba the Nutt pushing the game into $120ish range and the fact that they're about to try to resell the game yet again at full price in Switch 2 soon as a download on a cart and yeah, most people won't fall for it.

The most memorable thing I recall from this game is one of the devs lamenting that you could raise like your own racer alien or mount and less than 3% of people figured out how since most were just doing the main questline and not going after the side quests and such, so he bitched until it was like a Kotaku article or something like that to feel validated for his portion of the game existing. That's modern gaming in a nutshell these days.

>>715930846 (OP)
They made a game about the least interesting part of Starwars, what did they think was going to happen?

>>715930846 (OP)
>Why did Star Wars Outlaws fail?
It says right there, the brand is less popular

>>715930846 (OP)
They made what should've been an obvious Han Solo game into a girl boss abomination.

>>715930846 (OP)
The main character's haircut makes her unappealing and it got out early that despite being about "Outlaws" it was another toothless PG Disney Wars where the characters never do anything bad.

>>715930846 (OP)
Play one Ubisoft game, you've played them all.

>>715930846 (OP)
I am STILL waiting on a good Jedi and or Sith game where you start off as a padawan and work your way up through the academy and then on to working with a master before becoming one yourself. I want a hole section dedicated to building your lightsaber. I've been waiting for years and its STILL not a thing that exists. Instead its always shit where you are super special and don't need to train or you build your saber off screen, they always skip the best parts.

>>715930846 (OP)
people are tired of gay lame ugly shit

>>715941169
There was a Star Wars Marathon on TBS or whatever last friday. And I was thinking about how as a guy who's just old enough to remember the pre-VCR days if Star Wars came on tv it took precedence over everything else. You dropped everything to watch those movies because we could literally not see them enough times. I would have watched ANH once a day if I had the option.

And this marathon of all six non-Disney movies was on and I sort of instinctively got excited but then I thought about it and realized I didn't really want to use the DVR space to record any of them because yeah...I just don't care any more. I still catch snippets of the Lucas ones now and then and I don't dislike them or anything. They're still fun movies. But it's like the brand doesn't actually matter now.

>>715930846 (OP)
>Force female protagonist
>Make her a diversity character
>Make most of the companions diversity hires
>Make her an empowered female and a knock off han solo
>Game flops
These dev companies and execs have progressed into such a level of delusion basic survey's and customer metrics are unknown sorcery to them. They keep ignoring and snubbing their main audience/demographic and trying to appeal to 3rd parties and when the game flops they look for any excuse other than base reality.

>>715930898
ugly female protagonist

>>715943761
>super argumentative anon
>remind him of the realities of AAA development
>stops responding
every single time