>One character ruins an entire franchise for 5 games in a row
How did they do it bros?

>>715932393 (OP)
I remember a trailer for borderlands 2 where it sounded like ashley burch doing her best lori petty impersonation. Pretty much ensured I stayed away from it like the plague

>>715932393 (OP)
Its funny they had to get rid of her grandma laugh lines, and as a result, actively try to make her more attractive.

>>715932393 (OP)
>borderlands player pretends to have standards

>>715932727
The games are fun, well less than half of them
Most of the people who make content for the games are genuine autists and the player base is no better

>le quirky millennial """"""humor"""""""

>>715932727
I've been playing Tiny Tina's Wonderlands after I turned the dialogue volume to 0 and removed all subtitles and it's actually a pretty good game, however anytime I see this tranny freak character it gives me a massive cortisol spike, can't imagine what this freak sounds like but I keep seeing IT too much, even without dialogue options or voice lines it's so unbearable to look at, I want to fucking kill it slowly.

No on in game calls her tiny tina
They just call her tina
I find that weird.

Whats the minimum age of consent on pandora

>>715932992
It is the more gravely croaky and pitchy voice in the whole series. Its genuinely miserable. I genuinely despise this obnoxious """"voice actor""""

>>715932393 (OP)
i didn't play wonderlands until dialog skip was out and i wont play 4 until it's ready either. last time i heard her talk was 3 when you meet brick and mordecai for 5 minutes.

>>715932992
>zipper tits
sad

>>715933031
>No on in game calls her tiny tina
>They just call her tina
>I find that weird.
because she's not tiny anymore. hell, even in the commander lilith dlc they made her model bigger
and my god how they ruined her face in bl3

>>715932393 (OP)
I actually had fun playing Wonderlands with the dialogue on. It's campy, it's juvenile, it's post-ironic, but it's very gay if you mind that and there was no motivation to finish the story despite having fun reaching level 25 and playing side quests here and there.

>>715933382
I was meaning in the series, not just 3.
My pic was misleading, sorry

>>715932393 (OP)
Borderlands would be my favorite game series if it kept bl1 humor
>>715933031
>No on in game calls her tiny tina
I think Roland does once
>Whats the minimum age of consent on pandora
one line from bl2 implies there's no age restrictions by law in Pandora, so as soon as she can say yes, I guess

>>715933710
BL1 humor is proto 2 the only reason you think it's good is because they kept it minimal

>>715933872
>you only like the humor in THAT game because of the whole point of how the humor in that game existed
Gee, shocker

>>715932992
Absolutely agreed
The game itself and mechanics and shooting and looting and shit is still pretty fun but holy fuck the characters and dialog fucking god

>>715933451
Feels like the game peaked when you blew up the ocean with Torgue
After that the ocean and pirate slog is so bad and long and unbearable
Haha funny Pinocchio reference now can we please keep going already no wait there's about 5 more horrible side quests but you want to do them to get that sweet unique weapon that's actually pretty fucking good like the sunless sea shotgun

>>715933710
Bl1 was so much funnier than 2 but I guess butt-stallion fit the time period

>>715932992
saw a picture of that character online, and that was enough to not play it, this is the first time i see who voices him, god, it really can be way worse than one can possibly imagine.
im glad the game failed, it was well deserved.

>>715934458
These are my thoughts as well. Such a slog after the ocean blew up and they have the audacity to raise the levels of the main quest so fast.

>>715932393 (OP)
Tina was fine in BL2 because she barely appeared in it. It was only when the devs realized that people liked her and started shoving her everywhere did she become annoying. The same thing happened to Mr. Torgue.

He was funny when he appeared sometimes, but then they started to force him in any scene they could fit him in and the joke lost all merit.

That said I would still take Tina at her worst over Ava any day of the week.

>>715932393 (OP)
She didn't ruin shit, she just flanderized the bullshit that was established, only the first game kept it somewhat serious, everything after that was fucking nonsense.

>>715936389
Oh fuck
Ava
Thank God she didn't end up being the VH in 4

The franchise has been shit since the pre sequel. Not because of quirky cunny either. Because it just has fucking sucked from a story perspective after Jack ACKed.

>>715936659
The whole marketing campaign for BL4 is "we're sorry for BL3" they are avoiding Ava like a plague

>>715936790
They better fucking be
I'll still pirate it like 3 and wonderlands though

>nepotism

>>715936925
There's nepotism at mainstream fast food joints in the city I live in, absolutely pathetic, I don't think people realize how bad things are getting.

>>715937478
Nepotism has been a thing since the dawn of time

I don't think humans actually play these games.

>>715937547
We get it you're autistic

>>715937547
ok lil timmy, tell us what games grown ups like you play?

>>715936389
No, the nepo character created to be a mary sue for Burch's sister wasn't okay. Like in what world is the 12 years old who speaks using excessive black slang and has every character tell you how cool and badass she is okay?

Ava was unironically better because at least Maya treats her like a child instead of a ultra badass killing machine like everyone in bl2 did with Tina.

>>715932393 (OP)
I'm now remembering all the MLP references in Borderlands 2, pretty based honestly

didnt she grow up to be hot?

>>715939452
Yes. Unfortunately, she's trapped in the most insufferable entry in the franchise.

>>715939547
you mean 3? i dont know how or when but i own 3

>>715932393 (OP)
>Is a child
>Talks
It's a simple formula.

>>715939685
>almost 200 fucking gigabytes long
never mind i will not be installing that

Does BL2 still have chink spyware enabled or did they walk back their shit after they got shit on?

>>715939840
>Not having 5-10 terabyte SSD

>>715939854
Bl4 is apparently the first game in the series you won't be able to cheat engine apparently

>>715939874
i have 6TB of space and a 2 gigabit connection still not downloading that

I like Wonderlands.
The writing is shit
But it's an FPS with fantasy + guns and, It's got a grimdawn dual classing system
I'm sorry but thats fun to me.
Its not GOTY material but it's
fun and yes I know the buzzword shit I dont care

>>715939906
I don't straight up craft perfect BL2 items, but I do reset quest flags so I can farm Big Rewards over and over? I remember a certain temple in a DLC where I would clear the completion flag over and over so I could loot all these giga chests non-stop.

>>715939959
>I have these things that make that file size trivial but I'm going to rage like a poor

>>715939685
Yeah, it's pretty bad, and I say that as a fan of the series. It may just be personal taste, but without spoiling too much, they basically double down on everything I found tiring/burnt out about the series, I.E. the Sirens. After 2 and Pre-Sequel, it felt time for a soft reboot, but they just kept dragging out the same "themes" and jokes and storyline. It's so tiresome, and the classes weren't even that good.
The game's biggest flaw is unironically having too much content. It's too big and 90% of the main quests feel like padding with a shitton of backtracking between areas. Meanwhile as you do that characters will, and I am not exaggerating, never shut the fuck up over the radio. God forbid if you even bother to do some side content. You'll spend 10 hours in one biome, constantly going back and forth as Friends-tier dialogue plays over the coms constantly, even to the point where you can travel from the start of a quest to the objective and the dialogue still hasn't ended or even gotten to the point, also known as the setup for the actual fucking quest you've already halfway if not entirely completed.
Again, I enjoyed the series for what it was up to that point, and I am even looking forward to Borderlands 4, and I wholeheartedly recommend you stay the fuck away from 3. It's just Gearbox wanking themselves off for 50 hours and not even introducing anything interesting to the gameplay, let alone rebalancing it.

>>715940005
borderlands 3 has no business being 200 gigabytes long its not a good enough game to justify that

>>715940006
You seem to want an onrails boomer shooter and not a looter shooter it's a classic mistake but borderlands is the 2nd best selling FPS series of all time for a reason

>>715932393 (OP)
I think she's hot. Funny how they changed her back to cunny.

>>715940310
I didn't make any comments about the loot system. I enjoy it, as well as the open nature of the hub areas.
Borderlands 3 is the "I may have gone too far in a few places" of vidya.

>Pandora's moon Elpis, after being teleported away by Lilith using her Siren powers,[a] destroyed the protective barrier of a planet named Kairos.[5] In Borderlands 4, players assume the role of a Vault Hunter who must lead the resistance against a ruthless dictator named the Timekeeper and his army of synthetic followers named the Order on Kairos, while searching for "secret alien treasures".
>While the team avoided using the term "open world", Gearbox CEO Randy Pitchford claimed that Borderlands 4 was "the most open and free" game in the franchise, contrasting Borderlands 3's planet-hopping structure, which resulted in a more "compartmentalized" design.[3] As with its predecessors, Borderlands 4 was envisioned to be a humorous game, though the team wanted to ensure that the humor derived from emergent gameplay, in which the playable Vault Hunters will react to actions performed by players.[9] As Borderlands 4 was set in a new planet, the game features an all-new cast. It also offered an opportunity for the art team to create landscape distinct from those on Pandora, with art director Adam May describing Kairos as a "high-tech but lo-fi" setting.
Sounds like certified sloppa

>>715940005
Just because space is cheap doesn't give devs an excuse not to even remotely try to optimize their games and their game sizes. You can make your same argument for why games are running worse.
>just get a better card lmao
The games don't graphically look like they should tank hardware from even five years ago but they do. Things just run worse. DLSS and framegen is only making that worse, too, because devs can assume people will use fake resolutions and fake frames to force the game to run at a playable FPS. I have a 3080TI, it can't run some unreal 5 games past 60 fps but here we are. Things just run worse. There's no excuse for it.

>>715940454
you belong in a prison cell getting beat to death by a guy who misses his daughter

>>715932393 (OP)
>Jewish woman pretending to be a child
But I thought you guys liked Gawr Gura.

on a semi related note why is ashley burch's hair grey?

>>715940456
Exactly. It's not even about hating the loot loop or the general structure-those are still serviceable. But when every single story beat is wrapped in nine layers of obnoxious quipping and the pacing grinds to a halt every five minutes so some side character can scream into your eardrums about sandwiches or memes from 2011, it stops being fun.
BL3 feels like someone tried to speedrun burnout during development. They wanted to make The Biggest Borderlands Ever™, but forgot that bigger isn't inherently better, especially when the writing department is doing bad improv over a tired script.

>>715937543
Sure, but it gets better or worse depending on certain factors.
As an example, when getting a job becomes harder and societal trust goes down one should expect nepotism to raise.

>>715940005
Storage is the cheapest component to upgrade. What are you even bitching about?

>>715932393 (OP)
she ruined my cock after all that gooning, for sure.

>>715941195
People's hair can turn early. I started greying when I was a teenager. I'm almost white and I'm in my 30's now.

>>715932393 (OP)
>double down and make an entire game based around her cringy shit

>>715942771
Game was kino. Sorry you got filtered by a.... Bratty little girl. Most people don't have issues being awkward around them

>>715932393 (OP)
wonderlands has the best gameplay tho
pity about the dlcs....

>>715943920
So far i'm preferring 3's gameplay more, the magic is way better than grenades, also being able to wavedash everywhere is.....interesting, not bad though, but being so fast I feel like somewhat trivializes a lot of encounters.

>>715932393 (OP)
>>715932653
I always wondered what her concept art looked like, since there's no way that the person who initially designed her had THAT face in mind.

>>715932393 (OP)
It was Tina that ruined the games, it was just the dumb humor in general the story in the games sucks as does the quest progression, having to literally do all the side missions because the main quests don't give you enough god damn XP to stay on level was fucking annoying as shit in BL2 and really made trying to get through TVHM and UVHM a fucking drag. I never played any of the games after 2 though.

>>715945987
Yeah it's pretty bad that they expect you to grind on a game you are meant to play 3 times.

>haha lol buttstallion lmao what a BADASS joke :DDD

>>715945987
The games would have been better with minimal-non-existent story like Dark Souls but if they kept the same like I guess visual aesthetic. Borderlands 1 having the vault hunters barely speak was a good touch of this, but as someone said in this thread Borderlands 1 kind of had the same cringe reddit humor as 2 they just dialed it back a bit, it would be better if that stuff was dialed back a margin of 10 even compared to Borderlands 1.

>>715948690
There was a clear regression in the writing.
The Borderlands 1 base game was pretty tame. Basically Mad Max with some dark humor, and almost completely devoid of voice acting.
However, all of the DLC expansions are super wacky. You have the Halloween themed one with the zombies, the one where a toddler bosses around the final boss and the Claptrap revolution.
Then Borderlands 2 came out, they spent 10 times as much on voice acting and everything has the same tone as the werewolf with a macaroni hat from the non-canon Halloween themed expansion.