>Controls are fucking perfect and tight
>movement is responsive and fluid
>worlds are not too big, not too small
>colorful and adventurous
>collectables are reasonable and doesn't break the pace
>destructing environments feels satisfying and not gimmicky
>new DK personality is charming, actually like his new facial expressions and dynamic with Pauline
>his design is based off an older design so it literally can't be new "woke" shit.
>loving the gameplay
>loving the characters
>loving the worlds
>love the music
>only complaint is that combat wise it's too easy but no DK game was ever too hard, you jumped on enemies and beat them in one hit 99% of the time in DKC
Is this the new BOTW/TOTK? Because the sheer levels of SEETHE and anal bleeding this is causing /v/ is unprecedented. I'm loving it though, keep crying while I have fun with this absolute 10/10 masterpiece.

>>715942217 (OP)
Now watch as this thread is ignored because it's not meant to just be b8 or the typical contrarian
>everything is le bad
horseshit on /v/

>>715942217 (OP)
>Is this the new BOTW/TOTK?
It is. Entire medium is overrun with terminally online "discourse" faggots now. A solid game doesn't matter to those leeches.

A fucking tree fell on my fence so I have to fix that instead of getting a switch 2+dk. GODDDAAAAMNIT

>>715942217 (OP)
It's really damn good. It's such a power trip to get all this mobility and all these tools.

>>715942217 (OP)
>collectables are reasonable and doesn't break the pace
once again there are way more than there should be, they give you them for doing absolutely fucking nothing (odyssey has some 3peice moons, this game has bananas that give you fucking 5 at once)
they are meaningless EXP that serve no actual collectathon progression purpose, they literally do break the game because they give upgrades that make the already braindead, retard proof baby slop even easier.

>bro it's DK64 combined with Oyssey
Turns out NO! It fucking isn't.
this game feel more like BOTW and Splatoon

>>715944846
Collectibles being used for upgrades instead of arbitrarily locked gates is a massive improvement.

>>715942217 (OP)
Buy an ad.

>>715944846
Okay say what you will but it will be fun watching what speedrunners could do or people that do those “Can you beat game with [insert self imposed challenge here]?”

>>715944906
NO it's not because you don't need 99% of those upgrades. the game is too easy as it is.
it's not a Collectahon and this means you can literally just skip all the bananas and make a b line to the end.

>>715944997
How about you go to sleep, useless

that game is just dopamine after dopamine hits

yall addicts

>>715942217 (OP)
DK 64 also wasn't hard. People think it was deep because it sucked to actually play the game... Bosses were as easy as throwing a dynamite back at it 3 times.

>>715942435
It's yet another arthur thread and his obsession with rectal discharge. It is nothing but his usual gaslighting, shitposting ragebait.

>>715945107
That's fine. It's better than a lot of collect-a-thons where the only reason to collect stuff is for the sake of collecting everything, or because it turns out you need a ridiculous percentage of the collectibles to complete the game for no reason. If people want to blow through the game only doing the bare minimum, it's no skin off my back when I'm collecting everything anyway. Getting rewarded for it with something extrinsic to the collectible is a nice bonus.

>>715945074
No it wont because nothing in this game takes any amount of skill or depth like odyssey.

>Want to skip something vertically?
>in 99% of cases just climb it or drop down from a height that takes no skill to reach
>Want to skip something Horizontally?
>literally just punch through it

There's barely any platforming outside of specific challenge routes, I wouldn't even be so sure about calling it a platformer.

>>715945107
Silly anon it's not a collectathon. It's a destructathon

>>715942217 (OP)
This game was like fucking crack cocain. This is the goty plain and simple.

>>715942217 (OP)
>Is this the new BOTW/TOTK?
No this game is actually good.

>>715945235
That's the whole point and fun behind a collectathon.
ever collectable is a unique challenge and have level design surrounding them, they ARE the journey.
Banjo and Jak and daxter is a perfect example of this.

Then nintendo starts shifting things towards garbage like goomba stacking, korok seeds, and other low effort garbage moon tasks that have no worthwhile value. DK has this problem PLUS a lot of teh bananas are just slapped there without any real content or challenge attached to them.
this entire games lacks challange the platforming is mostly invalidated and people said "well it will be combat focused" but the combat is even more braindead easy.

nintendo games are intended for children about the age of 10 years old

>>715945652
This is a game for 5 year olds.

>>715945652
So was Maximo. Doesn't give games an excuse for being insufferable brainless slop,

>>715945541
That's never been true. Banjo for example has tons of random collectibles strewn all over the place. Odyssey and now Bananza just streamlined the types. All collectibles serve the same purpose of rewarding you for exploring the world and engaging with stuff. Like a banana and a mumbo token or a jinjo are about equal in terms of value.

>>715942217 (OP)
I'd add that the radar move and the randomly spawning treasure chests with maps also make the clean up process for collectibles very fun and addictive. In Odyssey I'd invariably be left with a few undiscovered moons in each world and then it was just back to the ship to pay the map Toad or use an amiibo to get them marked on the map.

>>715945821
fuck pretty embarrassing that a game made for 5 year old obliterated every game this year

>>715945541
Playing a children's puzzle-simulator game like a Nintendo product, you forget that games can be organic.

My first videogame was Far Cry 1
I am approaching the enemy camp. I take out the guard tower first, and use that location to case the camp
1) I can shoot the explosive barrels and kill several guards, but doing so trigger the alarm.
2) I can approach from the sea, but I might be seen coming out of the water.
3) I can sneak up to the camp through the foliage and throw distractions to get through, once inside I can run and gun with cover.
4) I can take the jeep and leave, under heavy pursuit, but I might not survive it.
5) I can cheese the game, fire shots and wait for them to climb the tower one by one and shoot them all in the head, but that is boring
Actually there are innumerable ways I can do this. All of them have certain drawbacks, there is no real "intended" way.

I also played Halo 3. Similar deal
>take the ghost
>take the banshee
>take the sniper
>run and gun
Many ways to approach most levels. The levels all have tons of replayability and organic situations that can emerge from the physics engine.

These children's nintendo games feel more like a grammar school test

game is piss easy so im not touching it.

it just looks like visual puke so im not playing it sorry jew bot shills. Assets flipped from splatoon 3 and yet they somehow look worse

>>715946189
If only.

>>715946180
Or worse. when you're missing like five purple coins or something and you have to case that entire map for them.

>>715946316
Just use the wedding Bowser amiibo to reveal them. :^)

>>715942217 (OP)
Have they explained why Pauline is a kid yet?

>>715946357
Yeah, because they wanted a singer for the zebra power up, and it looked better to have a smaller character hang onto DK.

>>715946434
I meant in-universe, is it explained or is it typical Nintendo doesn't give a fuck and she's just a kid now?

>>715942217 (OP)
>>collectables are reasonable and doesn't break the pace
are they really? cuz im not backtracking for 60 hours just to 100%

>>715946467
It's a prequel.
>but what about Cranky and-
Don't worry about it.

>>715946189
good games come out before christmas like always

>>715942217 (OP)
I really do wish it was harder, but I'm hoping the post game content has some hard levels.

>>715946019
>Banjo for example has tons of random collectibles strewn all over the place
Those aren't randomly placed. they placed at the end of an area that requires platforming or some sort of effort.
Banjo doesn't have Jiggies as garbage as;
-stack these goombas for the 10th time
-Plant this seed even tho you've done it 20 times in other kingdoms
-Herd these sheep for the 5th time
-talk to this same NPC for the 50th time

>>715946485
I think so. For instance, I don't think I've seen any collectible just buried in a random place for no reason. There's always some kind of distinguishing feature, even for minor collectibles like common fossils. They're tucked away in little places where they reward you for looking around.

Also, and this could be good or bad depending on your perspective, but I have found a grand total of 1 banana that has required a later power-up that I didn't have at the time. So very little backtracking. Frankly I could've done with more of that.

>>715942217 (OP)
>worlds are not too big, not too small
I wish more games went back to this smaller sandboxes with completely different biomes

>>715946510
I've heard people say she's hinted to be Odyssey Paulines daughter because she keeps mentioning her grandmother. The implication being that original Pauline that was kidnapped by Kranky is Blonde, and her daughter is the Pauline we see in Odyssey (and other games), and this is that Paulines daughter. Probably all bullshit and Nintendo just doesn't care though.

>>715946731
How many blue coins required repetitively putting fruit into baskets?

>>715946794
You've heard one person say that because that person is schizophrenic and is currently in the process of losing their minds over their dumb fanfiction. Please do not feed into their delusions.

>>715942217 (OP)
>BE MAD! BE MAD! BE MAD!
Jesus christ is this all Nintendofags have anymore

>charge the bananaza DONG punch
>aim at a wall
>it's like setting off a fucking bomb and blows a bigass tunnel for me to go through anything
as someone who spent hours dicking around as giant dark jak causing mayhem in jak 2 thinking it was the coolest shit ever this game IS the coolest shit ever
The fact I can level fucking anything I want without being stopped and then just one click reset all the terrain and do it again is the best shit ever
and pauline is fucking CUTE

>>715942217 (OP)
It's especially more upsetting for /v/troons because they can't emulate this.

And also the Switch 2 versions of BotW/TotK BTFO emulation on high end PCs. So they're seething about that too lmao

>>715947089
>the Switch 2 versions of BotW/TotK BTFO emulation
Darren stop trying

>>715944906
I'm actually going to go to bat and say that the upgrade system is a flaw on this game. very little of the content is well balanced around the amount of terrain you can destroy because that power is a massive variable based on upgrade status rather than a relative constant that can be influenced by skill alone. extra hearts and sonar and pickup radius is one thing, but things like bananza abilities and timer being not just at variable values depending on skill level but sometimes locked entirely behind upgrades just ends up with the game unwilling to create linear challenges that are intended to be completed by showing mastery with that ability. In the end the gameplay challenges largely default to "main gameplay loop on a tight timer", "chunk throw shooting gallery", and "physics puzzle", and nearly every challenge presented in the course of the main plot just relies on being solved by the base DK moveset because bananzas are unreliable and may not be charged to use at any given moment.

>>715947032
That shit is awesome and god damn I wish base DK had a charge punch too.
But also I can't believe they give you the elephant bananza.They really just said fuck the framerate, you get to destroy the entire level now. And it's glorious.

>>715942217 (OP)
>only complaint is that combat wise it's too easy

Much like Mario Odyssey, beating the game is pretty easy. But 100%ing it is another matter. Some of these challenge levels are fucking brutal.

>>715947121
He's right though. Even PC autists like Nerrel did a side-by-side.

>>715947135
I didn't find this to be the case at all to be honest. Because I was worried about that, but the designers didn't fall into the usual trap of not requiring any optional upgrades. Because there are bananas that require those upgrades and NPCs that straight up tell you
>Hey, you should've gotten this ability by now.
For example, glide is required for some bananas in Forest Layer, and one of the bananas in the Sauna in Tempest Layer requires Lv1+ suction.

There are linear challenges that use both the mandatory and optional bananza abilities. But they also give you infinite bananza time.

>>715947147
the feedback loop of destroying shit to get gold to feed your next transformation which lets you keep destroying shit is also genius, along with the spawning chests giving you maps for collectibles and then the destruction being dynamic and letting you go back through whatever tunnels you already made to get to them
I knew this development team was fucking god ever since they first made jungle beat which was one of the coolest most unique platformer I've ever played and everything since is just as good or better
First party nintendo designers really know what the fuck they are doing with video games

>>715947240
I can think of that banzai bill level with the breakable blocks and... that's it. so maybe 20 minutes (if you're getting shitted on) of a very long game.
don't get me wrong I love Odyssey and think it's very fun but the difficulty is not there. no darker side is not a challenge.

>>715947274
>b-but my eceleb friends said
Pitiful, Darren.

>>715947347
What ever helps you cope.

>>715947414
>c-c-c-cope!!!!
Darren is projecting again...

>>715947319
I also like the weird but cool touch that you can continually stay in bananza form if you swap when you're about to detransform but have a full bananergy stock.

You know a game is shit when threads like this have to be made right when it comes out.
Game looks like ass. Nintendo fanboys are annoying little shits. No buy, sorry.

>>715947573
>No buy, sorry

You don't own a Switch 2 anyway Mr Fox.

Alright /v/. A button or B button for jump?

Gonna admit I didn't even give the default controls a chance.

>>715947729
I swapped to B so I can thumb both jump and the regular punch on Y.

>>715947573
The only appeal Nintendo games have to this board anymore is if they make people with standards upset. Look at how they're now shitting on Super Mario Odyssey just because it isn't the newest Nintendo 3D platformer anymore. Not even the Switch 1's games are safe from being expeditiously thrown under the bus anymore. Wait till you see how they'll talk about BotW and TotK the millisecond after the new game's reveal ends.

>>715947685
Damn right. I've owned every other Nintendo system, but Nintendo has yet to give me a single reason to shell out for that shitslab full of cancer.

>>715947729
>>715947761
this
punching in this game is as important as running in 2d games, snes layout is better

>>715947831
>Wait till you see how they'll talk about BotW and TotK the millisecond after the new game's reveal ends.
Depends if they just rehash it again or not. If it's different enough, then yes, they'll immediately throw those two under the bus. If it's the same thing again, they'll continue to suck them all off.

>>715942217 (OP)
The fact that you need to INSIST about how heckin perfect is, means that it is not and you're insecure.
Also buy an ad.

>>715947831
>Look at how they're now shitting on Super Mario Odyssey just because it isn't the newest Nintendo 3D platformer anymore.
This shit baffles me. If you even dare to claim Nintendo used to make better games than they do now, they have a meltdown. If you aren't exclusively shilling for [latest product of Nintendo Ltd. that makes them the most money] you're their enemy and shit.

>>715947729
I went with A for jump since Nintendo hammered it in for me that A should be jump, it's like how PS1 platformers codified X for jump

>>715948040
They'll start calling people odysnoys soon enough.

>>715948124
Other Nintendo games don't use A though. Unless you're going back to the NES.

>>715947135
In the postgame you'll start getting levels that directly tell you "only try this level if you have these abilities, it was balanced around them"

>>715948040
Honestly, they've gotten way worse than snoys ever were with the PS4.
>>715948171
That would've actually been kinda clever and funny for a bit. If they didn't indiscriminately run the "snoy" label into the fucking ground over the past two years.

for all your OST needs
https://www.youtube.com/@RezyMania/videos
finally someone who recorded in the DJ room

>>715944846
You managed to post a gif of the only extreme issue with the game. Well done. This is a step up.

>>715947345
>I can think of that Banzai Bill level
Completely agree. NTA but I've felt like there's definitely more of a challenge with certain levels in this game. If the punishment for dying wasn't 500 gold I'd be sweating during some levels and I'm not even at the end, but close.

>>715948894
If you never upgrade health I think it's pretty reasonable.

>>715947831
>they're now shitting on Super Mario Odyssey just because it isn't the newest Nintendo 3D platformer anymore.

No you're a fucking seething lying shitter and you have it completely backwards.

You did but seethe about Mario Odyssey for 8 years and shit up the board constantly.

Now it's no longer a threat to you because the new Nintendo system is here so you pretend to love Odyssey now.

It boils down to mentally ill Nintendo haters spending their days fucking seething on 4chan for two reasons.

1) you can't stomach the acclaim and success are getting

2) the mere thought of people enjoying Nintendo's games makes you shit yourself with rage.

It never stops being funny to me.

>everyone says the game is easy
>keep getting filtered by challenge levels

>>715949379
>almost a full letter grade down from Odyssey is "acclaim"

>>715949458
/v/ does not remember what it was like to not be good at 3D platformers.

>>715942217 (OP)
Nintendshills really trying hard to push this as the next big game, too bad it's painfully medicore

>>715949532
A 3D platformer is just a bare bones "proof of concept" game intended to demonstrate the viability of 3D games when they were a new thing. You're supposed to build something more significant out of that, why are we still doing the 3D platformer thing?

It reminds me of 2D fighters with strange button combinations. That shit was intended for the hardware limitations of an arcade machine with 2 buttons. Why do those types of games STILL exist? What the fuck?

Because Street Fighter and Tekken are japanese, so they have this religious following that gets high on nostalgia and keeps replaying the same shit all the time. It's just like Nintendo games.

Yep I’m thinking Nintendo does it again. Saving the absolute state of gaming in the same way they began it. Looking into the history and execution of these companies, how anyone can trust any of them other than Nintendo is beyond me. They will outlast everyone because yes they must care about money since that has become our world priority as humans, but you know what they also actually give a shit about video games.

This game just isn't very fun

>>715949720
At least try to sound like you're someone else, fucking christ

if you upgraded your hearts you didn't beat the game

>>715949220
I haven't been much, been going for 100%. I meant that if the result was in losing a lives instead of gold I'd be taking levels more carefully.

>>715945541
Ah, yes. Amazing B-K jiggie puzzles like
>jump on hill
>look in box
>give orange to monkey
>jump off jump pad

Just beat the main game and man this was so much fun bros, this is the most hooked on a game in awhile.

>>715949804
I broke and upgraded them after dying to the final boss multiple times mostly due to some confusion on what he does. At least I can talk to an elder amd reset my points to remove them.

>>715946731
>collect 5 jinjos
>shoot egg into hole
>pick up thing then give it to nearby npc
All in every or multiple B-K stage.

ice is way too slippery
I died so many times on that ice + please clap every second challenge

>>715947135
Is this your first collectathon? Genuine question.

>>715949220
If you never upgrade health then the endgame enemies and final boss fights can OHKO you.

>>715950337
That shit was hilarious. I fuckin love this game.

Yep I'm thinking it's SOVL

so does this game put to rest the meme that nintendo hates rare era dk stuff? there's so many references and of course the big spoiler, that it almost feels like a love letter desu

>>715946872
that seems like the obvious intention in the game though. she mentions her grandma to establish there's at least three generations of her family, and she's the third incarnation of the character. how else do you think you're supposed to read into it?

>Games NEED to be bullshit difficult so I don't feel bad for wasting my life playing it. This is what kids want
Games were only difficult back in the day because they had to disguise how short as fuck they were and expansive worlds weren't really possible yet. Stop projecting your own insecurities onto the next generation

Wait where you supposed to go through the way after fighting grumpy kong? I just threw dirt at that little area ahead of time and got there earlier. This games pretty fun that way but honestly too easy, im not upgrading my heath from 4

>>715951096
>This games pretty fun that way but honestly too easy, im not upgrading my heath from 4
you're going to look back on this in a few hours and laugh

>>715951158
Nice. I'll look forward to it then

i can't help cracking up every time i use elephant to suck up terrain because i just think of the WHIRRRRRRR wojak shitposts

>>715951264
>>715951096
you haven't even finished the game? get the fuck out of here.

spooky time
https://youtu.be/2aZdaBFA3xU?si=uhQbfJLNUZ5tv--Q

>>715942217 (OP)
I didn't like the game. It just doesn't feel like donkeykong. It lacks something that DK games have. It wasn't the theme or lack thereof. The game felt very foreign and strange. The terrain deformation aspect doesn't feel very donkeykongish at all. It feels like the game was originally supposed to be a brand new original IP, but they couldn't get the original character right, so they chose to implement DK instead, as a last minute substitute, because he's big and strong and could feasibly be destroying the terrain. The whole opening chapter: Ingot Isle, feels like it was made to justify the inclusion of DK. And king k.rool was only added as a last minute thing, because they evil kongs sucked as villains and they needed a sequel hook. The DK VA sucked. He wasn't masculine enough and the bananas in DK's eyes were very gay.

Should I collect everything on my first run or is it fine to leave layers incomplete for post-game? I'm taking my time soaking everything up and just barely hit layer 200, I've only upgraded sonar to lvl 2 item pickup and maxed item scan if that matters.

And yet, it's as fucking boring as it is bland.

>>715950529
Ermurgud is that thing from old game i clapped when i saw it

>>715951572
just collect what's in the way or catches your eye, don't try to clear out the whole collection list on your first run. it'll be more fun to get some of the out of the way things once you're at the end and have more upgrades.

Nintendo's business practices are even worse than their games

>pause the game at any random moment
>kino screenshot
Crazy how much animation and polish went into this, this was just from punching one of those snail things

Honestly, I'm tired of playing non-Nintendo games.

All these other games don't understand anything. I got PSPlus and Gamepass recently, and I went through all fucking games and Ubisoft games and EA games and Online games and Free to Play games and Sony masterpieces and Baldurs Gate and

They're all awful. They can't grasp gameplay. Every game is this milk toast 7/10 experience that has cutscenes.

I'm just going to start buying only Nintendo consoles and their exclusives from now on because they're the only company actually making games, them and From, but From's on the Switch now too so I'm good.

I don't need this Death Stranding 2 and Diablo IV nonsense in my fucking life, where you fucking walk around for 37 hours. My brain fucking hurts I can't deal with it anymore.

>>715951531
Donkey Kong is a cheap ripoff IP of King Kong. He is standing at the top of a tower throwing barrels down at Mario and carrying the princess up the tower.
It's literally just IPsafe King Kong. He has no personality traits other than a vague preference for bananas

>>715951309
Theres alot of bananas...I only got to tue divide

>>715951826
ironic since DK64 had tons of cutscenes

>>715951898
out you before you spoil yourself even more than i assume you already have

>>715942217 (OP)
It's great. It feels like the MM to Odyssey's OOT, a weirder experimental sequel with a novel gameplay hook.

EPD8 devs a lot more credit for actually creating something unique. There's no other game that plays like this, and that's rare in the modern industry.

Incredibly well crafted vidya

>sakurai brings back king k into the spotlight
>then shows banjo love in the DLC
>now bananza. especially at the end

why has nintendo done more rare callbacks than rare themselves? People would have ate up a new banjo game if they damn tried.

>>715942217 (OP)
>Is this the new BOTW/TOTK?
No, it's actually good.

>>715952172
Speaking of Smash, Ultimate will probably be the last game where it's just DK instead of DK and Pauline

>>715952172
Greg Myles was at Rare until this year and he never wanted to do another Banjo game.
Microsoft is retarded and only ever properly outsourced Rare's IPs once (2013 Killer Instinct).

Microsoft should have immediately contracted a studio to make a new Banjo after his popularity in Smash. But they are retarded.

>>715952172
Because despite what YouTube and shitposters on /v/ tell you Nintendo did like Rare. There is a whole section in the Nintendo museum for Rare games and they collaborated when possible even post Microsoft buyout. Nintendo probably care more about Rare’s legacy than current Rare. Super Donkey Kong was pretty big in Japan and even if their other games were not as popular they still had a fanbase some of which probably ended up working at Nintendo

>>715952358
nah i dobut they'd toss on pauline outside of a final smash or assists.

>>715949717
>Thinking there is nothing to platformers

Platformers are the "comedy/horror" genre of movies but in gaming: they appear simple and low brow, and just making one that fulfills all the mechanic requirements to be called one is easy.
But making a *good* one is one of the hardest things out there.

A platformer is all about how good the controls feel, about interesting challenges and moves, about enemy design that makes you have to use these moves etc. It's the genre where interaction of mechanics matters the most.
In most other genres you can mask mediocre gameplay with "story" and "setpieces" and just lots of spectacle. Can't do that in a platformer it's 100% gameplay driven.

Turns out "the game controls incredibly smooth" is easy on paper but extremely difficult to do in practice. I.e. a platfomer needs GOOD camera logic, and camera logic is super hard to actually program. It's why every modern third person game at their core uses camera logic all the way back from Super Mario 64 because they spent like 6 months in the lab just trying to get that right (since it was the first game with a dynamic camera ever).

https://youtu.be/TCIMPYM0AQg even a 2D camera can be surprisingly complex.

>>715951826
Okay, have fun aligning yourself with a single brand? If that makes you feel better, im probably just going to get out of the hobby when I feel that bad.

>>715952413
>Nintendo probably care more about Rare’s legacy than current Rare.
i don't think that's even debatable anymore. Sorta sad when you think about it. Rare was taken by MS but most of their legacy is still with nintendo.

ooo banana

>>715952172
>why has nintendo done more rare callbacks than rare themselves? People would have ate up a new banjo game if they damn tried.

Rare is basically just a logo now

>>715942217 (OP)
Not reading your long list nor buying the game. It just doesn't look appealing to me.

It's not nearly as good as botw / totk but it is a fun game with a good gameplay loop. The main game is way too easy though, but some of the challenge levels are satisfyingly difficult

>>715952556
I don't get what their problem is. People would kill for a new Viva Pinata or spiritual successor to Diddy Kong Racing but instead they spend eleven years making Everwild (which got cancelled because they didn't know what the game even was other than the protagonist being a strong black womyn in touch with nature)

>>715942217 (OP)
I love Japanese games the controls are so docile and tight.

>>715942217 (OP)
Shan't buy merchant
Might not even pirate once CFW is out

>>715947573
This. If the game were legitimately good multiple threads would naturally occur with people discussing the gameplay and their enjoyment with it. Not this laundry list of why people should be enjoying it like anon is. Bananza is a spiritual flop

>>715952556
Rare is by for the saddest story in the industry for me. They were the greatest at one point, even when their games were bad there was something there that made the experience worth it but post Microsoft it was just done. I know Nintendo has expert tard wranglers but fuck did they really need Miyamoto chain smoking to be as great as they were.
Never played Sea of Thieves, maybe it is great but man does nothing about it feel like it has that Rare magic.

>>715952172
If Microsoft wasn't retarded they would have done a joint venture with Nintendo to make Banjo Threeie for Switch + Xbone, or now switch 2 + sexbox + pc
But they are retarded, so all of Rare's IPs have been left to die, and the Perfect Dark cancelation marks the true ending of them

>>715952991
they probably don't have talent on hand to make a good 3D platformer.
if they make a new banjo game and it sucks it will sink the IP for a decade or so. if they never make a new game they can just coast off nostalgia with collabs and stuff. they like safe money.

>>715953129
they don't want to make 3D platformers
They want to make Last of Us clones because that's what wins game awards

>>715953129
this game made me want a banjo game by the odyssey team but I know that's impossible in this current reality.

>>715952991
To b fair I don’t think Nintendo would agree to doing a joint venture because they understand that their name is important and they want to keep that name only available in one place. Any time spent on Banjo would be better spent on one of their IPs
Microsoft is retarded because Nintendo uncharacteristically rolled out the red carpet for Banjo so hard Sakurai going “Play Banjo on Xbox” became a meme and Phil did nothing for that momentum. Literally the only thing that happened post Smash was that you can play B&K on Switch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjJwVkWWcck
Yes

>>715953401
>sakurai: i did my part. go play bando on xbox
>banjo 1 and 2 show up on switch later anyway
can't make this shit up

>>715953298
I think it could be possible if like the other anon said do a collaboration with rare where the odyssey team makes the game and have old rare people write and design the game.

>>715946220
>My first videogame was Far Cry 1
lmao

>>715953614
>have old rare people write and design the game.
don't even know if these exist anymore.

>>715953457
Thanks, disliked

>>715953878
Some are at playtonic, few are still in rare, and few are freelance or retired.

>>715951869
I never said anything about personality. But now that you mention it. Bananza DK has no personality. He's just so bland. He has no strong character traits. At best he's a vehicle for pauline. Other iterations of DK atleast played well with the other characters in their respective worlds. Bananza DK's character feels like an after thought. I truly believe that DK was not supposed to be the original main character. The game was probably supposed to be star wario, because of all the gold collecting mechanics. Or maybe the game originally started as a tech demo, and nintendo wanted a DK game, so they shoehorned DK and pauline into it, instead of wario. My guess is that warior was either too unknown or too scary for test audiences. I believe that bananza originally started out as a sequel to mario odyssey, starring some mario characters, but focus shifted halfway through and it took years for it to release, and the pandemic didn't help it either. The villains also feel very half assed. My guess is that void kong was the original villain, but he wasn't originally a kong at all. He looks too generic to be a kong. He was probably a place holder until something better could be made. Grumpy kong feels the same way, but less so. Poppy king feels the most fleshed out as a villain in the design department, because she probably represents some dev's fetish.

>>715952892
>a spiritual flop
this wont get as much attention as "forced soul" but its just as retarded and funny

>>715952892
We are still making our way through the game nigger

hope this game gets DLC even if odyssey didn't

>>715951826
welcome to my realization 10+ years ago
the ps4 is probably going to be the last non Nintendo console I ever buy
I'm just waiting for the steam deck 2 at this point, PC parts are too fucking expensive

>>715951826
Embarrassing post.

>>715952104
reminder that studio got its start with DK jungle beat, and there's still nothing like that game all these years later

>>715942217 (OP)
It's almost playing itself, it's a children's game and waaaaaaay too easy

>>715951826
>>715955254
>I LOVE BEING BRANDED CATTLE
and then they get angry when you treat them like subhumans

>>715947556
you can also just drum while the bar is empty and DK is blinking to start a new bananza cycle btw

>>715955556
>one company makes fun but overpriced video games
>one company makes overpriced movies
>one company buys good studios and then murders them without making anything
why am I even replying to an underage tourist

Jesus christ why the fuck are nintendofags so obnoxious

>>715944846
I played through half the game, scouring for collectibles, over a dozen hours.

I then loaded up a second save and tried blitzing through only the core content. It took me an hour and 10 minutes to get to the Divide and it kicked ass. Absolutely frantic pace and a ton of fun.

>>715955715
but you chose to enter this thread and make yourself angry

6.5/10 game. Nothing to write home about. Can be fun for 4 hours if you don't want to use your brain like watching Marvel slop.

Just got 1000 bananas, fantastic game but with a few caveats
>It's a shame you don't get the surface as a post game area like Mario had returning to the Mushroom Kingdom
>Post game in general just kinda sucks, Mario opened up a ton of challenge areas, new moons and costumes. DK got hard mode tutorials, a half baked enemy rush and a boss rush without a harder K. Rool
>Racing Layer is woefully underutilised, they made a Rambi mode and gave it two seperate races with 0 replayability
>Plot's weird, the Banandium Root is a retarded plot device given it can just grant wishes back to back, fuck K. Rool seemingly got two wishes almost back to back

>>715955658
>>>one company makes fun but overpriced video games
>>one company makes overpriced movies
>>one company buys good studios and then murders them without making anything
god, you slaves cannot imagine playing videogames without being beholden to a corporation and making that part of your identity

>>715942217 (OP)
All that and it still looks like some shovelware platformer. All of these games look the same.

>>715955835
pretty much my thoughts.

>>715942217 (OP)
You sound like a very unpleasant person to be around.

>>715947274
ToTK, yes.
BotW, no.

>>715955814
>See retarded thread on catalog
>"geez what a retard"
>j-just ignore it chud!!!
lol ok

>>715950958
>how else do you think you're supposed to read into it?
That she's just like DK, because his grandpa was arcade DK. That doesn't mean this is a different character than the one from Odyssey.

>>715942217 (OP)
I just got to the canyon layer and it really lacks friction. Nothing is stopping me during traversal or combat. I just smash everything and hope the challenge levels offer some fun challenge later on.
I don't hate it because like you mentioned it plays extremely well, but I'm disappointed that it feels too much like being let loose in a toddlers play area.

>>715956338
the first 2/3 of the game is pretty easy but it ramps up hard at the end.

>>715950304
that's fun.
5 jinjos are like the moon pieces.
goomba stacking is not.

>>715942217 (OP)
in all seriousness:
the controls really are fucking excellent. so fucking good, wow

>>715958006
it's even better on the new pro controller, that thing feels so good in my hands and this game makes full use of it

I think the best feature that's really gonna go underappreciated is that the game remembers the state of the entire stage flawlessly without any forced resets and that means all sublayers in a given layer, even if you go into a separate bonus stage, and it only flushes it when you leave the whole area entirely

>>715958263
I really gotta get one at some point. I've been playing with joycons or S1 pro the whole time

>>715942217 (OP)
too easy

>>715958432
>too easy

Show your 100% save file.

You haven't even played it lmao

>>715958369
I want to say it's overpriced because it is but god damn I have never held something that feels like 90 dollars like that in my hands before
it's way different from the original pro controller, which was already good enough to be my default controller for basically everything
even though it looks similar it feels different and is better in basically every way besides disassembly and repair, but that aspect is what contributes to it being so goddamn comfortable
I think the gamecube controller is the most comfortable controller ever made but the switch 2 one might surpass it

>>715958343
Miyamoto can finally make Ocarina of Time with the persistent world features he wanted!

How do I clear the combat challenge next to the town in the glacier layer? The one with six crocs clad in seemingly impenetrable armor. Not even the Kong and Zebra Bananzas seem to do anything.

>>715949379
Kek, this. What’s even funnier is they seem genuinely confused when their larp doesn’t work.

>>715958369
D Pad's terrible, but otherwise it's good.

>>715958512
>I've never used controllers outside of the Switch

>>715944906
Yeah, it makes me want to find as many bananas as possible before moving on. In Mario Odyssey I only ended up getting the moons needed to go to the next level.

every post in this thread is me btw

>>715959169
>samefagging this late

>>715951826
I know this is supposed to be bait, but I unironically feel the same way. Nintendo + PC indies + a handful of Japanese games are the only things I ended up liking in the past 10 years. It feels like the other big industry names have completely stopped trying.

what are some other gorilla-like games?
smashing walls is fun

>>715951826
You’re not the only person with that sentiment. The fall of AAA, EA, Ubisoft. People are slowly waking up. Gachaslop is definitely next.

Nintendo is rising higher and higher because they still know and care about making a good game.

>>715955556
>>715955964
You have 0 arguments, all you have is irrational seething at a toy company

>>715959838
I think mid range companies are still doing ok, but yeah, since 2015 indie games have been the main drivers of the industry for anyone with taste.

>>715960303
sorry, i don't talk to livestock

>>715959937
If you play a real game you see that Nintendo is pumping out the same walking sim slop. Nintendo invented the movie game. The current degenerate paradigm of progression based "games as an experience" started with Nintendo. Play something good like an arcade or rhythm game

>>715960589
>Play something good like an arcade or rhythm game
Well alright then

Kneel.

>>715960753
Better than nu-nintendo

>>715942217 (OP)
>Is this the new BOTW/TOTK?
You fucking wish, lmao. Those games are incredible. DK Bananza is decent but too easy until basically the final boss and the levels feel like nothing cause almost all overworld bananas are just
>le clap
>le slap towards them
and that is it. The challenge ruins are the only thing that actually provide any platforming elements.

>TOTK
>good

>>715947032
This outfit is fucking cute but is RUINED by the burger crown

>>715960785
KING K.ROOL-SAMA I KNEEL..

>>715942217 (OP)
If only the game was fun

>>715942217 (OP)
sorry I don't play baby shit

Does Eric like dk bananza?

>>715942217 (OP)
pikmin would benefit the most from this terrain system if they nail liquid physics
or maybe make things infuriating...

makes me wonder if nintendo should try do a proper yoshi island game in 3d

>>715961424
no hes a raresnoy

>>715951826
>words words words
>>>milk toast
>words words words

>>715942217 (OP)
>>love the music
weakest part of the game imo, none of the new themes will be remembered

>>715942217 (OP)
So they did the bare fucking minimum again? Pass

>>715960785
AIIIIIIIEEE
AAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEE I-I KNEEL TO MY FUARKING KING

>>715942217 (OP)
Bing moment.

>>715961524
The "raresnoys" literally fucking won with Bananza though? You niggers have been spouting off a whole bunch of "yeah well I never liked Rareware era DK anyway" bullshit ever since his redesign for the movie was revealed, don't you dare try to walk all that big talk back.

Not gonna get a Switch until there's 4 more games out that I wanna play. It'll probably be emulatable by that time thoughever

it just looks like visual puke so im not playing it sorry jew bot shills. Assets flipped from splatoon 3 and yet they somehow look worse

are nintendie marketers being paid to post this stuff? not even the shill streamers are pretending to like it.

>>715960589
"walking sim slop"
bait harder.
Coming from someone that plays games like DOJ, Futari, Fight'n'Rage, DJMax, Osu, and Metal Slug; not every game needs to be made for Achievers and Killers.
Nintendo still knows to make make mechanics that are simple yet deep (only real critique here is that they don't extract the full potential out of it because they put anything that pushes mechanics behind the glut of the first time experience and over-correcting on friction for the sake of approachability).
They still (generally) follow the same philosophy behind DK and DK Jr.
Where you have a simple yet satisfying mechanic that you get a lot of mileage out of, and progression came from looping into more demanding versions of the game till kill-screening.
Those were the "movie games" before actual movie games.
Miyamoto called out actual "movie games" in the 90s, and they certainly aren't doing what games like GOW and Uncharted are doing now.
Nintendo capitalized off of those Achiever and Killer elements of arcade game design into something largely made for Explorers at face value.
(Something that companies like CAVE, Treasure, and Taito couldn't do on-top of never figured out how to market/present their games outside of the arcade setting. Ikaruga and Bubble-bobble being the only real exceptions)
And they're one of the few largely successful companies that are still around doing that kind of thing.
(Where we only really see that with FPS games in the US)
If you want that more curated, satisfying, challenging experience, should've supported and spread the word about games like Tropical Freeze when it came out. Bananza is a 3D collectathon, meaning its curated for Explorers.
Not gonna complain about a square peg not fitting into a triangle shaped hole.
>real game
If your definition of "real game" is something like GOW, Stellar Blade, or COD you can fuck right off

Does the game feature a second "ending" like Odyssey? In Odyssey you beat darker side and then you go to the church and everyone is there clapping/celebrating. I beat the game and did one of the Elder Kong missions but I don't know if I feel like doing more. I have like 650 bananas, and I don't know how many I need to grind out to see all the content, but if there is nothing then I don't know if I want to bother.

>>715960785
My lord...

>>715960589
Why blame Nintendo? They arent the ones who popularized RPGs

>>715962192
Stellar Blade has no business catching strays like that, it's a good game

>>715944906
>disincentivized from finding collectibles because you don't want to make the pisseasy baby game even easier

>>715962024
no idea what this schizobabble means
maybe direct that at someone else

>>715942217 (OP)
>New totk
It's better so no. Feel like the game doesn't really take full advantage of its mechanics though unless theres a special challenge after the bananza ones at the end

>Is this the new *boring Nintendo game that does nothing new but gets praised as revolutionary just because Nintendo made it*
It is indeed

>get to the boss that the schizo keeps posting the framerate clip about
>it's literally just the final segment of the most fun boss so far and it's over in 2 seconds because you're supposed to smash through the endless mud walls

>>715962358
Its a "movie game" compared to something like Bananza.
Nothing inherently wrong with that, but Im gonna call a spade a spade when I see it.
Aside from Eve's provocative design and animations, don't really like the combat or how you progress through the world.
Feels more shallow and habitual in design imo.
And the story was milquetoast.
Compared to its inspirations, I cant say it ranks up there personally.
Hoping they improve upon those elements for a sequel though, game had some potential.

>>715959868
lol

>>715962591
Nuts and bolts had shit physics and the game around it wasn't fun.
Totk has one of the most state of the art physics engines in the entire industry and the building is part of an overall extremely high quality game
Honestly the only knock on TOTK is the fucking batteries and Nintendo feeling like they have to patch every dupe glitch they can

>>715963053
>Nuts and bolts had shit physics and the game around it wasn't fun.
Describes my experience with TOTK perfectly

>>715962779
It's almost like all he can do is post absolute bullshit and yet if you call him out he gets his feelings hurt and you get banned.

>>715963091
If you think totk has shit physics you're beyond retarded

>you can hit B with proper timing to make DK hop at lightspeed on any hanging surface
how is this game so GOOD

>>715963162
I don't care about your technical definition of a "good physics engine", it's not fun, ergo it's not a good physics engine for a game

>>715959868
>>715962938
How does RFG run on steam deck

>>715963228
It is fun for most people, I'm sorry for your brainrot

>>715963284
>billions of flies can't be wrong

>>715951826
Bait but this is pretty much what I actually think. DS2 is alright though but I'd rather play mgsv

>>715942217 (OP)
>Is this the new BOTW/TOTK?
This is something I'm noticing the more I play it is that this game isn't actually like Odyssey outside of how great the movement is. The design philosophy is way closer to Zelda than Mario. Bananas aren't like Moons, they function like Spirit Orbs/Light of Blessings (collectibles are optional and used to upgrade yourself instead of just blocking progression to the next level). In TotK, you would use the fuse mechanics to pick up stuff anything and alter your moveset, here DK literally picks up anything you can see with different terrain materials to do different things. The ability to turf surf being a relatively integral part of DK‘s traversal, reminds me of Shield surfing being one of the big additions to traversal in BotW. The ability to basically climb almost everywhere that isn't slippy. DK being able to also dig up and down, reminded me of the Ascend mechanic from TotK but way more multidirectional. This sort of physics-based interactions and highly vertical exploration is the element that Zelda is doing and not Mario. Even Odyssey's and Bananza's sperate bonus/challenge levels are just based off Shrines. Nintendo combining their handheld and console divisions together is the best thing they have ever done in the history of them being alive.

>>715962591
Nintendo are like past-Blizzard.
They refine and distill mechanics down to a certain level to make it more "fun"
Been doing it since forever.
Look at Game&Watch and MicroVision
Super Mario Bros. and Pac-Land
Legend of Zelda and Tower of Druaga
Could say the same thing about a company like Id being inspired by Ultima and refining the FPS through using University Research to their advantage
Biggest invention from Nintendo was the D-pad for the Game&Watch. So I guess we should grill every console and controller manufacturer for not coming up with something new?

>>715963763
>They refine and distill mechanics down to a certain level to make it more "fun"
Blizzard actually made revolutionary games, all Nintendo ever did was make existing games but "safe" and branded for the cattle that refuses to buy anything that's not THE biggest name in the world

>>715962448
Seething because you absolutely know what it means

>>715942217 (OP)
All that is cool but I think we have to give feedback that the game is way too fucking easy, like actually baby mode. Odyssey was already trending in that direction and Bananza is the result.
For me it became a serious flaw of the game.

its so weird the zebra has an entire suite of combat moves you can unlock but you just never need that shit

>>715963848
meds

I FUCKING HATE THE ZEBRA BANANZA REHERSAL STAGE

game is fantastic but I hate how retarded all the npcs sound in this game, they're even more annoying than the pinatas in sunshine lol

>>715963847
>Blizzard actually made revolutionary games
LOL
They didnt invent RTS, MMO, Hero-Shooters, ARPGs, Looter RPGs, nor Deckbuilding.
They just refined and simplified it by packaging it under a theme. Like Nintendo.
Either name them or fuckoff.

>>715963629
>Bananas aren't like Moons
yeah they are...
they're even both crescent shaped

>>715942217 (OP)
>FPS is also perfect, the constant stuttering really improves the atmosphere and IT REALLY MAKES YOU FEEL LIKE DONKEY KONG

>>715964287
They aren't and I just explained how they function differently.

>>715942217 (OP)
>Is this the new BOTW/TOTK?
>movement is responsive and fluid
>worlds are not too big
>collectables are reasonable and doesn't break the pace
>destructing environments feels satisfying and not gimmicky
>personality is charming
>his design is based off an older design so it literally can't be new "woke" shit.
Those things are literally the exact opposite of the ubislop titles though.

>>715963629
Agreed. though I wish they had the equivalent of "Blue Coins" to separate exploration rewards.
I still think Bananas should be closer in count to something like 64's Stars or Sunshine's Shine Sprites.
Liked how they were rewards for specific challenges rather than also being there as an exploration reward.
Increasing the amount of main mechanic collectables in a given space diminishes its value and can make the game feel bloated/a bit tedious imo.

>>715964287
in mario you're collecting moons to go on to new areas and you can't avoid this because there's a threshold of moons you need to have to progress. In Donkey Kong the Bananas give you skill points to enhance abilities so right off the bat that's the major difference compared to Mario's moons. There's also no banana requirement to move on to the next area the bosses drop the bananas and you can choose to not pick them up and go after it later

I better not see the people complaining about moons or Banandium gems suck off Banjo Kazooie ever again when notes are equivalent collectibles to jiggies since note doors are just as important to progression as level puzzles and the game asks you to collect 90% of the ones in the game.

>>715964216
You don't have to invent a genre to be revolutionary, StarCraft, Warcraft 3, and WoW completely changed the way people looked at their genres forever

Not that far in to the game yet but the amount of collectibles and gold I find makes me think there's gonna be some sort of area where you can build your own settlement with all this shit.

>>715964739
>Increasing the amount of main mechanic collectables in a given space diminishes its value and can make the game feel bloated/a bit tedious imo.
In Odyssey I definitely felt this. I replayed it twice and both times I never bothered to 100% after my first initial playthrough. When I replay Bananza in the future years down the line I know I'm always going to 100% get all the abilities.

>>715965283
Same thing with Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros, Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, and Breath of the Wild. (possibly Splatoon with how SE tried with FoamStars)
What's your point?

>>715965550
>Donkey Kong, Super Mario Bros, Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time, Mario 64, and Breath of the Wild.
No

>>715965451
I think the abilities/skill tree really help the 100% experience feel more engaging.
But I would be lying if I didn't say that I still feel that preference for the way 64 did 100%'ing compared to Odyssey and Bananaza

>>715963847

Anon is your hate boner for Nintendo really so strong that it's turned you into a complete drooling retard? Are you seriously suggesting that Nintendo hasn't made and doesn't still make revolutionary games? You can't actually be that ignorant, please take a step back from your console warring faggotry and be objective.

Finding a large underground area and going to town to find treasure chests with maps when I'm short a few bananas/fossils in a layer is itself really fun.

>>715965693
>Are you seriously suggesting that Nintendo hasn't made and doesn't still make revolutionary games?
Some of us aren't uninformed normalfag retards and actually know vidya history

>>715942217 (OP)
Naw. I bought the switch 2 day one. Got MKW, Odyssey, and will buy switch 2 version of TOTK soon. All that shit is fun and well made.

But this DK Bonanaza shit is fucking GAY. Its weird as fuck and seems like half a game. You do the same shit over and over, while a loli sings in your fucking ear all game.

This game is retarded and there is nothing that can defend Nintendo on this one.

>>715963847
>Nintendo ever did was make existing games but "safe" and branded for the cattle that refuses to buy anything that's not THE biggest name in the world

Delusional mentally ill Nintendo hater. There's no developer on this planet who take as many creative and risky and batshit insane ideas as Nintendo.

>>715965902
Delusional mentally ill Nintendo lover

>There's no developer on this planet who take as many creative and risky and batshit insane ideas as Nintendo.
LMAO

>>715965664
Back it up then, what about them didnt revolutionize their genre?
Because I can sure as shit list more games influenced by all of those Nintendo games compared to Blizzard.
Can even tell you the link between Super Mario Bros and the founding of id as a company thanks to scrolling.
The same company that, you know, revolutionized PC gaming with Doom.
So, what about them isn't revolutionary
Because if all you can come up with is some disingenuous pretention, you can fuck right off

>>715965814
>uninformed normalfag retards
So, not you? You should think before you type Eric.

>>715965935
The name them.
What developer takes more risks than Nintendo?

>>715965970
When people say WoW revolutionized MMOs, it means literally almost no one afterwards even tried to make an MMO that wasn't aping WoW in every major way

Nintendo has never had that much influence in a genre, and every example that people name as Nintendo "revolutionizing" something has an earlier non-Nintendo example every single time

>>715966238
>Mario #42
>Zelda #29
>Metroid #38
>Kirby#52
>DK#33
>risky
lol

lmao

>>715964161
OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHH
ZEBRAAAAAAAAA
ZEEBRAAAAAAAAAA

>>715966376
Literally new game in those series tries something different or brings something new to the table.

Still waiting for you to name a single developer who take more creative or commerical risks than Nintendo.

Just one. Just name one.

>>715966376
>Did not name a single developer
>Just deflecting because they have no argument
I accept your concession

>>715966979
>Literally new game in those series tries something different
Something another dev already did
>or brings something new to the table.
Never happened

>>715967028
>Still waiting for you to name a single developer who take more creative or commerical risks than Nintendo.
Any that doesn't rehash the same five franchises for 40 years

>>715967075
>Any that doesn't rehash the same five franchises for 40 years
Such as?

>>715959868
I saw someone compare it to Incredible Hulk which I loved, no wonder I'm enjoying it despite not being much of a DK player.
Kinda wish they copied the mechanic where you can turn terrain into boxing gloves. I want to give DK rock fists.

>>715966293
>every example that people name as Nintendo "revolutionizing" something has an earlier non-Nintendo example every single time
So does WoW.
The fuck are you on about?
WoW was built on the shoulders of Neverwinter Nights, Everquest, The Realm online, Ultima Online, Anarchy Online, etc. Even FF XI.
The sheer volume of 2D platformers that tried to ape Super Mario Bros., 2D action adventure games that tried to ape Legend of Zelda, 3D Platformers that tried to ape Super Mario 64, Action-Adventure games that tried to ape Ocarina of Time, fucking arcade games that took what Donkey Kong did with its graphics and ran with it can fill a book compared to the novella's worth of MMOs that took from WoW.
We still see the influence of Ocarina of Time in games today, fucking Z-targetting is still utilized by every soulslike that comes out. Thats how long-tail Nintendo's influence is compared to something like WoW.
What the hell is your argument here?

>>715967778
>fucking Z-targetting is still utilized by every soulslike that comes out
Perfect encapsulation of an uninformed normalfag retard that doesn't know anything about vidya history

>>715967075
>still doesn't name a single developer

Color me surprised.

>>715967908
I'm old enough to remember how completely FUCKED 3D gaming was until Nintendo revolutioned not only control pads (again) but also how 3D games are designed.

>>715968245
>"SM64 is the first 3D game I ever played and I'm proud of that fact"
I'm aware

>>715968367

>>715967737
I'm sure nobody at Nintendo knows this game exists and yet I'm with you in that after beating the first sublayer I was getting strong vibes DK felt like a weird spiritual successor to this game.

>>715967908
What other 3rd person action games do you think people copied their lock on system from?

>>715954327
I don't think anyone's left at Rare. I think Gregg Mayles was the last one and he left in the last round of layoffs. But also he never wanted to do a 3D platformer again so there's that.
Playtonic's also been having a rough go of it. Sucks because their last game was really good. Hopefully their Yooka-Laylee remake is a massive improvement. I'm still interested even though it feels like EPD Tokyo has taken their collectibles train and elevated it to a height that's out of reach of everyone.

>>715968626
What other 3rd person action games do you think Nintendo copied their lock on system from?

Lmao did you guys see the Nintendo Prime video? Apparently his daughter is telling him 70$ is too much for dogshit Donkey Kong, and he wants you trolls to stop telling the truth about the graphics because enough is enough. Keep lying through your teeth positively just like him forever or you won’t even be a gamer or something lmao

>>715958263
I really like having the back buttons for swapping bananza forms without having to mess with the dpad.

>>715960785

>>715967737
Is swinging chunks not the same thing? Never played Hulk Ultimate Destruction.

>>715942217 (OP)
It’s good but the game is wayyyy too easy… you’re underestimating the challenge in DKC, DKCR, and DKTF if you think they were just as easy as Bananza

>>715968679
I didn't say Nintendo got it from somewhere else.
You're the one objecting to saying other games copied Z Targeting.

Answer the question: if it's not being copied from Zelda, where are they copying it from?

>>715968790
You would unlock various moves to turn Vehicles into various weapons each with their own gimmick.

>>715968973
You are under the impression Zelda invented it

>>715962413
You could just not spend the points you fucking moron.
Also most of the abilities don't really make the game easier. Any of the abilities are either required for challenges or just let you do more stuff. Optionality raises the skill ceiling, it doesn't lower it.

>>715963053
The physics system was okay, the real problem was that the vehicles inexplicably handled like shit, in a game entirely about doing challenges with vehicles.
Nuts & Bolts is so frustrating because they could've taken that physics system and really elevated the platforming, but it's wasted because you're stuck in a shopping cart the whole time doing things nobody wants to do.

>>715968794
It's not any easier or harder than other 3D action platformers. Those games you listed after 2D platformers with a different focus, and only TF I would say really pushes your shit in.

>>715963928
The brake attack is really fun though.

>>715968550
>I'm sure nobody at Nintendo knows this game exists
The game and its "prequel" were both on the gamecube.

>>715969073
I haven't said shit.
I'm asking YOU to explain what you think the answer is if not OoT.

Either answer the question or piss off.

The biggest problem I'm having with the game so far is the camera. It gives you perfect controls and an insane moveset yet the camera loves to spaz the fuck out a lot for some reason.

>>715970114
The fact that you don't know proved you're an uninformed normalfag retard that doesn't know anything about vidya history which makes continuing a conversation with you pointless

>>715969073
>You are under the impression Zelda invented it

Yes they did. Which is why you'll constantly hear the term "z-targeting".

And no, "Lock-On" is not the same thing as Z-Targeting. Please educate yourself if you're going to polute my hobby with your presence.

>>715942217 (OP)
>Because the sheer levels of SEETHE and anal bleeding this is causing /v/ is unprecedented.
The very moment a Switch 2 emulator comes to fruition, you'll see an endless sea of
>THANKS FOR BETA TESTING
posts. Just ignore those people. Those who actually played the game and happen to have a dissenting opinion are fine, but far and few in between. It's largely sour grapes. From what I've played of the game so far, it's a very fun time.

>>715969363
I'd say it's not any easier or harder than other open-ended 3D action platformers. There are harder linear ones, but the Mario 64-style games all tend to be on the easier side.
I don't really think these kinds of games benefit from being super punishing either. Dying in Banjo-Kazooie is infuriating.

>>715970385
>it's not the same because uhhhhhh Nintendo made it

>>715970276
>The fact that you don't know
The answer was Armored Core.
Your stupid ass doesn't know shit. Kill yourself.

>>715970176
Really? I feel like the camera basically does nothing outside of a few scripted sequences. They let it clip through terrain which doesn't look great but is really practical.

This is now the second game in a row from these developers that shows they understand 3D rolling physics better than Sonic Team ever has.

>>715970664
It also shows what inept dogshit Frontiers is. I'm not expecting Nintendo quality from Sega, but Bananza does pretty much every single thing Frontiers tried to do in a far better way.

>OP to thread needs to be a checklist of marketing points on why the game is good
Grim.

>>715970664
I think the Odyssey team has a lot of Sonic fans. Bowser's Fury had Mario doing a bunch of Sonic poses and Bananza has a bunch of Sonic-isms alongside the Rareware, Zelda and Splatoon stuff.

>>715942217 (OP)
Looking forward to playing it on emulator. What's the progress like, are we looking at 1-2 years away?

>>715970523
For me yeah. I'm probably just playing like a retard but sometimes when I'm moving fast underground with terrain still around me I straight up have to stop and reorganize myself.

>>715970664
Speaking of Sonic, the director's new at Nintendo and actually comes from Squeenix.
You know. The company that gave Yuji Naka, self-proclaimed creator of Sonic carte blanche to make this fucking game.

>>715942217 (OP)
>>715944785
Marketer thread

When yinz discover a 'nana or a fossil using radar do you dig straight to it or do you try to find the "intended" path? Me personally I have more fun finding the intended path or intended spot to dig.

>>715970956
He was the director of FFXIV Comrades after being a programmer and artist for Drakengard and FFXIV.

Probably got sick of Square's shit and went looking for a new job, and "Guy who worked several development hell jobs and has co-workers who can vouch" was probably a good fit for a development hell game.

>>715971112
Usually the "intended path," I'd rather jump and climb on stuff than burrow through the level.

Question about the switch 2s hardware. Are the input lag issues present in docked mode? I heard the screen is pretty bad

>>715942217 (OP)
It feels like a perfect collectathon game so far. GOTY 2025, I don't think any game is gonna top this

>>715970436
>Nintendo made it

Nintendo patented it. As.I said, educate yourself.

>>715942217 (OP)
it's way better than totk. fiddling with vehicles is lame

>>715942217 (OP)
It's Not perfect the game main problem is pauline. She doesn't fit in the game at all her music is annoying as hell doesn't fit a dk game. Her design is fucking ugly we would been better off with rock friend through out the game.

>2017

The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild metascore: 97

Super Mario Odyssey metascore: 97

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>2025

Mario Kart World metascore: 86

Donkey Kong Bananza metascore: 90

>>715971589
>Her design is fucking ugly
You suck dicks for a living.

>>715971617
2017
9/10

2025
9/10

I guess Nintendo just keep consistently making amazing games.

>>715959057
You go past them to the end of the stage, there's one of those switches that breaks the floor, so they fall to their death and you complete the challenge

>>715969039
you can already surf on anything you pick up which is basically the bus shield powerup from hulk

>>715971717
Thanks, I actually did it a bit after I posted that. I just had to stop being blind.

>>715971461
Display response time is different form input lag. The Switch 2's screen has a slow response time which means it's going to be blurry, but that's different from how long the game takes to react to an input, which is going to depend on both the game and a different quality of the display you're using, docked or handheld.
Input lag is fine. Tests with SF6 show it's about on par with other consoles.

>>715942217 (OP)
>Is this the new BOTW/TOTK?
Why did you start off gushing about this game then insult it like this?

>>715942217 (OP)
The game is bad because Nintendo made it and it’s exclusive to a Nintendo console. Also I can’t emulate it.

>>715945172
The jack in the box boss was NOT easy.

>>715971639
It's a western design not Japanese. The west has too much power that's why the game has Disney type singing through out it.

>>715971690
The power gap between 86/90 and 97 is fucking enormous and you know it

>>715952013
K

The hardest pill for /v/ to swallow is that even if every single game that came out was good and perfect in every way, you would still feel deeply unsatisfied.

Are ziplines broken? I know that ideally you should use material that does not degrade/degrades slowly but I swear half the time I use a zipline I clip out of it immediately. The chunks I was using to zipline weren't THAT small

>>715971968
If DKB scored 97 you'd still be fucking seething and spraying shit no matter what.

Just back in this moment and remember just how hard Nintendo raped you, and will continue to rape you.

>>715972136
Hasn't happened to me. Any hard chunk works, you just jump on it and you don't have to do anything else.

>>715971968
Not really. Not when low IQ games like GTA4 and GTAV got a 97. Or Tony Hawk 3. Or fucking Soul Calibur.

>>715942217 (OP)
>but no DK game was ever too hard
You lost me. All the Donkey Kong Country games are challenging.
I can't speak for the latter games. But Donkey Kong was a hard game.

>>715972569
Tony Hawk 3 and Soulcalibur were really impressive for their time, which was 2001 and 1998 respectively when 3D games were being pioneered. GTA IV and V on the other hand are legitimately incredible and revolutionary games although I’m sick to death of both of them at this point. The immersion, content, story, graphics, etc. in those games are unrivaled, it’s only natural they got scores that high

>Only DK games I've ever played are Konga and Jungle Beat
>Gonna keep it this way

>>715947729
A, B to punch downward is more intuitive, you get used to it

>>715970436
This is exactly how this conversation always goes.

>>715972824
A 97 means these games were considered tied for best of all time. Tony Hawk 3 wasn’t as good as 2, it only got that score because it had better graphics being on the newer consoles. Soul Calibur was an excellent and deep fighter back when people played fighting games but the impressive visuals definitely overrated it higher than it deserves. GTA4 I can see where you’re coming from even if I disagree and also in retrospect the game is terrible but the world was impressive. GTA3 too that’s why I didn’t mention it even though it’s aged the worst. GTAV doesn’t deserve it at all, it was formulatic low IQ shit by that point and they clearly rated these on a curve. Also brown thirdies and swarthoids love GTA games the most

The DKC games were moderately challenging.

>>715960785
Bro literally fucking hijacked the game right at the end
I love him so much

Astro is better

>>715971461
Digital Foundry has a really good video on the specs, lag was only present in digital remakes for the most part

Just reached beach layer (800), the multiple layer fight with Void Kong was fun, despite it being easy I enjoyed changing Bananzas on the fly to fuck him up

I still feel there are too many low effort moons and the soundtrack is kind of middling, but it's still an 8.5/10 I'd say. What would /v/ give it right now?

>>715974972
>moons

>>715975161
That's essentially what they are and it's easier than typing Banana's.

>>715974972
9/10. The average soundtrack is my only major gripe. The best music are all DKC remixes.

Never liked the "too many moons" criticism of Odyssey. The same applies to Bananza. It's a midwit take. The fun isn't the collectable itself. It's using the movement to platform throughout the level and collect stuff. There's also plenty of Moons/Bananas tied to setpieces if you stick to the main quest.

>>715975278
Bananas don't work like Mario's moons do.

>>715974381
It's crazy to me AstroBot didn't get more flak from game journalists for having significantly more shallow movement than 3D Mario or DKB.

I liked AstroBot, it's a fun game. But it's like comparing God of War to Devil May Cry. The base gameplay is just objectively superior and way more in-depth. Yet nobody points it out besides hardcore fans on message boards.

I think game journalists are just fucking retarded and casual.

>>715971617
BOTW should be lower. The shitty dungeons and overpowered movement options should've gotten more critique.
Odyssey is fine.
MKW should be higher. Journos got filtered by the routes.
Bananza should be higher, same rating as Odyssey.

>>715976008
>The shitty dungeons
You couldn't be more wrong.

What's with the banana on the Racing layer? The map pin points to the podium so I thought you have to win the race again but that's not it

>>715956728
>bro just hateplay 70% of the game, it gets really good after that

how the fuck do you 'destroy water' for the water npc moon in the first layer

it's the only one i dont have lmao

>>715976181
Punch it?

>>715975351
I really do wonder what it would've been like if they got David Wise for this one.
The music fits pretty well and there's some good tracks that are tonally more similar to DKC (like the poison forest sublayer), but it doesn't ever take center stage the way it did in the older games.
The Stamper brothers used to say something about how music was 50% of a game which is why they had so many in-house composers. So that was a very Rare philosophy.

>>715976160
Cranky's hiding out inside the podium.

>>715961335
not realizing it's a joke on amerifags who pay 300k to go to college and fail and eat burgers lol

>>715950445
As Miyamoto intended