How do you feel about blood elves and are alliances players still upset they didn't get them?

>>715952721 (OP)
Im still upset that I'm forced to fight alongside fucking orcs instead of having an undead faction. Idgaf about elves, noone cares about elves

He still has her fingers on his shoulder in the after picture

>>715952721 (OP)
blood elves ruined the horde
void elves ruined the alliance
wow is an elftranny game now, which is why it's dead

>>715953060
Hahahahaha

>>715952721 (OP)
>when talentless woketarded feminazis seethe so hard about a woman clinging to a man that they forget to completely remove her fingers from his armor
This will always be funny and sad at the same time, it's an evergreen testament to feminist insanity.

They are hot

The Forsaken is led by an angry elf.

>>715952721 (OP)
They are for sex
Wow is for not playing

>>715953995
Sylvanas was written out in Shadowlands. The Forsaken are led by the Desolate Council, four humans and an elf.

>>715952721 (OP)
butchering this art is criminal. The original made them both look cool

>>715952721 (OP)
Warcraft elves are shit.

>>715953935
man, fags just have no standards whatsoever

>>715955754
i haven't played since cataclysm, that's crazy, did they change the voicelines like "dark lady watch over you", and other dialogue about the banshee queen? Weird to think about, because as an undead player i remember queueing for pvp and chillin by the queen and varamothris (forget how to spell his name)

>>715952721 (OP)
how mentally ill do you have to be to find a woman embracing a man offensive

>>715952721 (OP)
Joining the horde was stupid and nakedly business-motivated.

That said, joining the alliance would have been equally stupid. I think its been so long since the warcraft games people think the High Elves are like Tolkien elves, they weren't, they were like 40k CWE eldar arrogance with burger behaviour.

They literally only joined the alliance because the old horde was a world-ending threat and peaced out the second the the dark portal went down. The High levers were assholes who hated the alliance.

>>715957198
Varimathras is a raid boss in Antorus (Legion) and Undercity is no longer a city (BfA). Brill got destroyed. They recently cleared out the top ruins of deadly plague and put NPCs in the ruins of Brill but Undercity itself is gone.

>>715957425
>Joining the horde was stupid and nakedly business-motivated.
Yeah I think you might be retarded

>>715957497
Forgot my image

>>715952721 (OP)
I don't need them in the horde either, let Alliance had them. I would rather have broken addicted elfs instead.

>>715957631
Nigger, the devs are literally on record admitting the long-known position that the belves were put on the horde to boost the horde pop.
There's no discussion to be had here, it's literally just a fact.

>>715952721 (OP)
I like them

>>715952721 (OP)
The horde having the undead is also stupid desu. They really just shit up the story pretty bad.

*blocks ur path*

>>715957718
Yeah and what exactly does that have to do with the in game lore? Oh you mean the super duper proud elves who taught humans shit and now have humans making demands of them in a weakened state said naw fuck you? Fucking shocker right there, anon.

>>715957425
>Joining the horde was stupid and nakedly business-motivated.
I think the best approach would have been to make a third Illidari faction, but I suspect that technical constraints would have been a problem. Apparently, even two factions was tough for their development, and I can't imagine fitting in a third one.

>>715957894
The best approach would have been to just not let people play draenei or blood elves

>>715957761
The blood elves are such a wasted idea

*metzen rips a line off the doomhammer*
>Bruh what if we made it so the high elves are like semi evil edgelords and the dark elves are like the good elves, that would be fuckinn sick!
Then they proceed to resolve the issue that made the blood leaves distinct from the high elves in the same expansion they made them playable.

>>715957806
Ateast they are thematically doesn't clash with the rest of the horde. Blood elfs always sticking out, they don't belong there.

>>715957894
The faction system as it exists was always irredeemable garbage and was only in the game at the insistence of a single PvP obsessed autist.

>>715957972
>Ateast they are thematically doesn't clash with the rest of the horde.
lmao

>>715957881
When everyone knows, a hads known from the second a decision is made that the decision was made for real world business reasons, post hoc in unvierse copium is exactly that.

I'm not even going to dignify your post with the inevitable argument that the blood elves joining the orcs, trolls and UNDEAD is pants on head retarded.

>>715957970
Restoring the sunwell was a mistake

>>715957497
man, undercity was my home in that game, that's a shame, where's the new undead capitol city / building?

>>715957972
>Elves chowing on demon juice and getting their paladin powers by stealing light energy from an angel
>If they don't, they become mana-deprived shells of their former selves because of their addiction
>Clashes with the themes of the Horde
The real problem was that TBC fixed the Sunwell, but it's not much different from the Orcs killing Mannoroth in WC3.


>>715958092
>and UNDEAD
Conflating the Scourge led by Arthas with the Forsaken led by Sylvanas makes you dumber than Garithos, anon.

>>715958092
>I'm not even going to dignify your post with the inevitable argument
Yeah you should go work on your english instead holy fucking shit

>>715957843
Guess Im getting gaped again. My lust for draenai females leads to these situations.

>>715952721 (OP)
My favourite starting zone and zone in general

>>715958264
>went back to re-read my post think I'd made some sort of spelling or grammar mistake
>turns out timmy just doesn't know what dignify or inevitable means
Remember to stay in school kids.

I stopped caring about high elves shortly before I stopped caring about the game entirely

Blood Elves on Horde was still a profoundly retarded decision

>caring about Blizzard lore or story

>>715952721 (OP)
Why did they give them to horde?
Does blizzard not care about the lore that much alliance makes much more sense

>>715958381
>went back to re-read my post think I'd made some sort of spelling or grammar mistake
my man if you cant go back and see the train wreck that was that first line you are truly stupid, not even retarded thats mean to them, just plain old fashioned fucking stupid and a lorelet at that. Pick a struggle, lil bro

>>715952721 (OP)
I love Blood Elves, first character I ever made and Eversong Woods is that place for me where I get nostalgic as hell. I also think them being in the Horde is awesome precisely because their appearance contrasts with the rest so much. Inside they're still arrogant, mana-hungry psychopathic wizards that will do anything for power, which is cool and based

>>715958649
I thought they were getting rekt by the scourge, found a useful ally with the nearby forsaken, and figured it could lead to a path that would satisfy their addictions and urges so they joined the Horde out of convenience or something

>>715959102
My bro was a Bloodelf paladin, i was Undead warrior, we did 2v2 arena and other pvp together, it was my favorite time in WoW.

>>715958215
They didn't get one. They just removed Undercity and Darnassus because nobody used them.

>>715959462
>They just removed Undercity and Darnassus because nobody used them.
wtf

>>715959462
no replacements?...like an entire race / country of people, and they don't rebuild or migrate to a new zone? I dunno what i expect from Blizzard but i realize my expectations must be lowered, like waaay lowered

>>715959742
The forsaken population was small and the night elves all died

>>715959280
Based, I mostly played solo as an arms warrior and did a lot of world pvp. That video of Tom Cruise talking about bladestorm sold me on it kek. Talking about it makes me want to go back and level a mage

>>715959562
Silvermoon is getting a huge HD retexture and rebuild for the next expansion though, I think all of Quel'thalas is getting put on the main Eastern Kingdoms world map so there will be flying after 20 years

Sucks for night elves and forsaken but hey

Honestly these days I'm more pissed that they never added ogres to the horde. At least with high elves they shit out excuse after excuse
>ooh they're too much like humans
>ooh horde already has blood elves it'll be too confusing
>ooh you already have legally distinct purple void elves stop complaining
>ooh you ask for it too much we're not doing it out of spite at this point

which is retarded, but better than nothing. Meanwhile with ogres it's as if their only reason is
>meh, don't feel like it
And don't hit me with that "ooh no one would play them" or "ooh but the females would be ugly", blizzard has NO problem making fucking ugly races that no one plays these days

>>715960338
And it will be full of furries and scaliesa and literal faggots oh my I can't wait!

>>715952721 (OP)
Blood Elf Mage, Paladin or Hunter?

>>715960874
Warlock

>>715960489
Don't forget brown blood elves

>>715961695
My favorite

>>715952721 (OP)
left:
>my heeeerooooo!~
right:
>excuse me, he ordered DIET magic!

>but Undercity itself is gone.
damn. looks like ill never play anything other than classic. modern wow feels like a really bad remake of classic wow

>>715952721 (OP)
>how do you feel
I liked when they were crack addicts with a superiority complex and a delusion that their world wasn't crumbling around them.
The addiction getting cured isn't bad, but it took away what made them unique.
>are alliance players still upset
They always have been.

On another note, silvermoon is a beautiful city and its a shame that virtually no one used it.

>>715958297
those ones aren't futa, faggot.

>How do you feel about blood elves
Horny, next question

>>715958092
A major factor in joining the horde was that the forsaken were lead by sylv, who was helping them fight off the scourge so the blood elves could retake silvermoon. Sylv also threatened to invade if the bloodelves tried to join the alliance again.
There weren't supposed to be a lot of blood elves left, and they were strongarmed somewhat into joining the horde so they could retake their home.

>>715952721 (OP)
I'm tired of wokeism, that's how I feel. It's a fucking cult and it's oppressive and boring at the same time, soulless garbage.

>>715952721 (OP)
You can cope however much you like how blood elves "achksually" fit the horde because they're vengeful, cruel, sylvanas is an elf, etc. but none of that matters in the end since they run against the aesthetic. Warcraft is one of those series that runs on aesthetics. Elves coming from an ancient high magical culture and undead humans squatting in the ruins of their once glorious kingdom will always be a poor fit for the horde because aesthetically the horde are hunter-gatherer barbarians beginning to settle into a sedentary civilization. Alliance history is corporeal and continuous, buildings and books, while the horde's history is oral and tradition.
>>715962164
>modern wow feels like a really bad remake of classic wow
I got that feeling from cataclysm. Bizarre how they had the chance to drive the whole story of both continents forward and they just made shitty remakes of the zones where you kill the same named NPCs in scripted vehicle quests.
>the npc who asked you to get trol'kalar... le casually died and the sigils were magically distributed back so do it all over again
Neo-blizzard is so incompetent it's unreal

>>715962821
A little contrast can be nice, anon.

>>715952721 (OP)
Thats such a lazy edit job, they just edited out the old female and pasted in a more acceptable one but since it overlays the male now the perspective is fucked.

why do they even have to ruin old art. why dont they just make their own shit

>>715962632
The Blood Elves were only using the Horde to get to Outland, they fully intended to mass migrate their population to Netherstorm to be with Kael'thas before learning he joined the Burning Legion

>>715958051
Yeah, they doesn't. Horde is evil race fraction, they are monsters. They've made them more likeable with their own code of honor and etc, but the core idea is that they bad guys.

>>715962821
>end since they run against the aesthetic
If you back and look at old interviews thats the exact reason they did it. The idea was to put an evil ugly race with the alliance (which is why male draenei look like archimonde) and a pretty race with the horde. They were also concerned that way more people were playing alliance at the time than horde and thought this would even it out.

>>715952721 (OP)
I don't want these traitors, they can rot the Horde from the inside-out for all I care. I just wanted High Elves.

>>715957198
You have to understand Blizzard needed to do everything in their power to ruin the Horde's storylines, making their Warchiefs fodder for every expansion, so that they could be torn down and replaced with the DEI Alliance.

>>715952721 (OP)
>Despite massive PvE advantages, Horde stomped world firsts throughout Vanilla because they were just more dedicated and skilled players
>Blizzard doesn't like that, adds fag elves, forces fag elves into the meta by making them the only possible choice for busted shit Paladins, pulls the sweatlords into the Alliance with racials like EMFH that make Will of the Forsaken look like a joke
>Now both factions are diluted shitwater full of clashing tastes, instead of each one appealing to different style
The only good thing Blood Elves did was absolve Forsaken of their status as the go-to race for shitters and make them cool again

Lorethmar won.

>>715962821
>Elves coming from an ancient high magical culture and undead humans squatting in the ruins of their once glorious kingdom will always be a poor fit for the horde because aesthetically the horde are hunter-gatherer barbarians beginning to settle into a sedentary civilization
That's just a product of having 2 factions. The trolls, tauren, and orcs are all part of the orc faction in WC3, just as the humans, elves, and dwarves are the human faction. Night elves are just as incongruous with the alliance, but night elves and the Forsaken both make their respective factions a bit more interesting and less one-dimensional.

spambot

>>715965393
world firsts have nothing to do with skill and everything to do with which guild has more free time to bash their heads against the boss 24/7 until it dies

kek

>>715965580
lol

lmao even

>>715952721 (OP)
>they just snipped the original image

mmm