>Y’know don’t say s-swears!

Your response?

IT'S OVER

is that the matrix taystee wheat guy

>>715955118 (OP)
>I like to count cards like I'm in fucking vegas
Legendary crashout

>>715955118 (OP)
I'm sorry, I should watch my language in the future.

>>715955118 (OP)

>>715955118 (OP)
FUCK YOU JERMA, I DON'T CARE

>>715956395
>kicked out of TF2 tournaments for adding up the damage you've done to someone
God I love Jerma

>>715955118 (OP)
>no troon shit
>no girlfriends
>no eceleb drama
Life was so much more simpler back then

>>715956967
>I’VE GOT TO BUY THESE CRATES

>>715958301
purchase and then I close
purchase and then I close

>>715958280
Honestly for the VERY little I watch gaming videos online now, I was kinda glad he wasn't hanging out with that Ludwig skinwalker Twitch printed off to replace him with.

>>715955118 (OP)
Imagine being the fastest person alive, and you still have time to censor people in 2fort.

>>715955118 (OP)
byeah

>>715958526
byeah

>>715958526
bah fightin

I CAN DO IT WITH A JUMP!
BART!
WHERE IS HE?!
BAAAAAAAAART!

>>715959065
byeah

>>715959162
unironically his best stream

>>715959162
fucking KINOest stream

>>715959162
Bart! I FOUND you!

WE'RE ON ONE OF THE COOLEST MAPS IN THE GAME

>>715955118 (OP)
Sad this guy died

>>715958526
What game is this from?

inb4 people spend a full thread making up shit about tubers they haven't watched in 11 years

>>715955118 (OP)
Jerma versus star everyone wants to see this happen

I think it's sad that he seemingly really did want to retire from streaming outside of very rare circumstances but the company he started working for basically folded and he ended up without a real job again except now with an expensive Vegas house and a live-in gf to take care of. I guess it turned out that most people don't actually give a fuck about "event' streams and the real money is just in laid-back gameplay with funny quips like has been the case for the last 15 years.
The recent streams are pretty good though.

>>715959954
The twitch trying to replace Jerma with a skinwalker thing is real.
It's basically the same shit as when youtube tried to replace Pewdiepie with that Logan guy.

Weed made him so fucking unfunny and I am really sad about it

>>715960313
it also made him not constantly complain about chronic pain at least

>>715960227
shouldn't have listened to /biz/ crypto advice, would've been a gazillionaire by now

>>715960296
Sad. I don't watch twitch but going on there to watch agdq, I don't understand why I'm seeing retarded muslims like hasan as top streamers. Is there actually a sizeable audience for these people or is twitch just dying out by killing off the core audience

>>715960360
>Old jerma stream
>Dedicates an hour to a stupid bit like the bill crazy bit from insaniquarium
>New jerma stream
>Can barely go 5 minutes without having some kind of weird fucking freakout, constantly says shit like "oh I thought this was a window in real life uhhhhh"
Crazy that stoners will tell you weed doesn't change you

>>715960227
Jerma's career is a fucking tragedy.
Slowly becoming famous due to your charming personality, while learning that IRL event streams are something you really enjoy doing.
Then your community starts getting taken over by the woke-cult and you have no idea how to deal with that without doing harm to your image, so you just let it be.
But that led to your chats being spammed to death by virtue signalling and you realize that you have no connection with your audience anymore.
So you retire. You join some company that is also into organizing IRL events, but it's so mismanaged that it dies within a few years.
Meaning that you need to return to streaming, knowing that it's not really something you enjoy doing. You try to organize IRL events, but the best you can do is organize in-game events.

>>715955118 (OP)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDpKTp5N9uA

>>715960545
Nah, it's just the same shit all core websites do, a nepotistic shit hole of people nobody likes benefiting from the real internet more or less being strangled to death after Gamergate and the actual avenues for people to organically attract an audience being completely gone.

>>715955118 (OP)
this video was 20 yrs ago

>>715960227
I did like Jerma's own event streams. Carnival, baseball, Sims, etc. They were some of the most unique live content ever. Pioneering even.
Didn't really follow the Ludwig company, I'm not even really sure what happened there. I saw like one gameshow thing Jerma was a part of where the "I think I look like Gigachad" meme came from, but I kinda just bounced off everything where Jerma wasn't the host.
I guess Covid was also a factor in being able to do his own event stuff.

But yea the recent streams have been great. Bioforge is an instant classic.

Funny how jerma said trans rights and then immediately retired because his chat became unreadable

>>715960707
yeah, his stream events were better and mostly stood out because he tended to avoid relying heavily on other internet personalities to pad them out and instead just used local nobody actors
(this is also why the dollhouse is probably the worst of the bunch)

>mediocre entertainer becomes extremely popular because gay men want to fuck him
Many. Such. Cases.

>>715960741
It had been horrible for some time.
Twitch Users are just fucking cancer, even if we're not getting into the botting shit.

>star_ is the last person alive again
>vinny tries to make a reference that nobody gets
>poke describes a mundane task he did the day before and everyone loses their shit

>>715960836
https://youtu.be/aNHeNYuOlss
You can't tell me this isn't cinema fuck you man

>watch yo profanity...

>>715960660
>You join some company
it wasn't "some company" it was the faggot grifter Ludwig's company, of course something run by a streamer is gonna go tits up in half a year at best
maybe if J*rma found a real job instead of being a nepo hire in a pre-emptively doomed business, the story would've been different
something something you reap what you sow

>>715955118 (OP)
>go on a nostalgia cruise with old sterma vids
>this thread just magically pops up out of nowhere
Yeah I'm onto you CIA man.

>>715960313
yeah... he used to be so consistently funny but now I cant watch without getting bored

>>715960915
Of all the communities fucking dying, I think the actual Vinesauce community dying was the worst. Those niggas were great to play vidya with.
Honestly I could say the same about the Rooster Teeth community before that went to complete shit.

I lost all respect for him when I learned that he actually buys frozen rice instead of just cooking it himself.

>>715961059
making cross symbol on my chest to ward off bad spirits of rt

>>715961054
Don't get too excited, most people are watching old shit on youtube. A fact that makes youtube fucking furious because it makes their current roster of ghouls look horrible.

i fucking hate ludwig. he ruined everything

>>715961007
Jerma's only mistake was assuming everyone else was just here to entertain people like he was, he dumped so much money into dumb shit just to make people smile and he was a fool that believed anyone else cared like he did

>>715961007
>maybe if J*rma found a real job
Real jobs don't exist anymore, anon.
Office jobs might as well be daycare facilities for adults and actual physical jobs take decades to grow into.

>>715961131
They serve the ads either way, I don't see how that affects their bottom line.

>>715961131
Can't fool me glowie.

so does jerma have a job or is he streaming what is he doing, doesn't he have a ton of money

>>715961007
>Real Job
>WE'VE RECIEVED YOUR APPLICATION WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU SHORTLY :))))))
>WE'VE RECIEVED YOUR APPLICATION WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU SHORTLY :))))))
>WE'VE RECIEVED YOUR APPLICATION WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU SHORTLY :))))))
>WE'VE RECIEVED YOUR APPLICATION WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU SHORTLY :))))))

>>715961207
he streams friendslop like once a week to keep sub numbers up and still averages like 10k viewers which is more than everyone else he streams with combined

>>715960660
His community used to be so unique and creative man
It's not fair

>>715961207
>doesn't he have a ton of money
He wouldn't be streaming if he did, but it also seems like he's able to coast.

>>715961169
If ads were what was important youtube wouldn't spend more time breaking shit like Blocktube than they do adblock.
They don't REALLY care if you watch ads, only if you generate metrics on fresh videos by partners.
It's that sort of weird thing where "A View" and "Watch Time" are not at all related to a person actually watching a video.

>>715961286
Showing art was one of his worst decisions

>>715961403
at least he finally shut the discord down officially like a year ago

>>715961156
>Office jobs might as well be daycare facilities for adults
Yet that still has better job security than going to work-pretend at your """friends""" pseudo company
>actual physical jobs
lul, tradies are just job cucks who've built their whole "culture" around how cool back breaking labor is and how ebin it is to be a slave toiling you life away but hey at least I aint got no soft hands brutha

>>715961403
it could be worse
you could make your own art booru and troon out after seeing enough deviantart tier drawings of yourself as a nintendo character

>>715960227
People did like his event streams. The issue is that it's the wrong kind of people, and the wrong kind of streams.
The low fi bullshit that clearly looked like it was put together on a shoestring budget like the original Rumble was prime comedy, even if it did cost him his savings account. Stuff like the PC doctor, or birdhouse, or him getting plastered on wine and trying to put together labos was way more interesting and soulful than something like the dollhouse or any appearance on the void of charisma that are mainstream poggers clique twitch streams. Cracks were starting to show the most on the archaeology stream which was 50% shilling some lame cards for his underaged discord full of tumblr trannies. Baseball stream was long and boring and now his audience is full of mouthbreathers that repeat the same old OKAY CHECK OUT MY NIGHTMARE IN WHICH JERMA IS AN ELDRICH HORROR PSYCHO KILLER joke. He needs to cater to these people if he want to continue getting any kind of money so in return his streams are boring, tired and played out.

>>715961840
Dare I even ask.

>>715961840
Actually with that ProtonJon got groomed by his "Girl"friend.

>>715961840
I can't even think of who this could be referring to

>>715961589
>Yet that still has better job security than going to work-pretend at your """friends""" pseudo company
Not really. There are a lot of very successful streaming companies, like OTK and AMP.
All it takes is someone who knows how to run a business and not have a wannabe businessman like Ludwig at the steering wheel.
And even then, once you've built an audience like Jerma did you can always return to streaming.
>lul, tradies are just job cucks who've built their whole "culture" around how cool back breaking labor is and how ebin it is to be a slave toiling you life away but hey at least I aint got no soft hands brutha
They also make more money than you and their work will ALWAYS be in demand.
That job security you were talking about? Yeah, that's only a thing with psychical labour jobs.

>>715961059
Wonder if we ended up spending time together. Before shit went to shit I spent a lot of time watching movies and playing games with them, specifically around hooty, ima and jen
Still have a lot of them in steam friends but we don't talk anymore

>>715961928
big if true

>>715961971
Probably, it's redundant to ask, but you played Mario Kart 7, and so did I.

>>715961892
>Cracks were starting to show the most on the archaeology stream which was 50% shilling some lame cards for his underaged discord full of tumblr trannies.
I can't believe he was actually shilling that garbage instead of "selling" the geodes to the top n donators (with a few geodes getting lotteried between all who donated).

>>715960915
i watched that stream yesterday and vinny was bombing the entire time, in between glazing jerma for random shit. he really is extremely awkward around other people. pretty much every time he speaks there's notable friction when people try to respond.

>>715961929
I have to assume vinny or one of the vinesauce streamers. People made art during the stream, upload it to the booru and after a mod did a sweep to remove the cocks, they'd go through it and show off the art

>>715959890
gta 4

>>715962104
I'd probably be weird too if Twitch intentionally murdered my community by funneling weirdos to make spurious claims of sexual assault and making it annoying to embed my own fucking stream on my own fucking website.

>>715962218
>to make spurious claims of sexual assault
he did sleep with those women and he did give them STD's though

>>715962021
No, it's basically without a doubt
It's kinda like that thing with The Librarian and that dude he hangs out with that stalks children in roblox (also transgender, in the event that context clues didn't make that obvious)

I don't care what anyone says.
Carnival stream was amazing.

>>715962330
qrd?

>>715961958
Average tradie earns less than the average office worker in most of the developed world, for every union HVAC installer earning 100k there's 9 earning less than 30k. Average tradie also has to retire at the age of 51 or risk the rest of his life crawling like a caterpillar and spends the remaining 2 decades surfing from doctor to doctor to deal with a myriad health issues

>>715962281
They consented and asserted that they did after the false accusations.

>>715961958
>They also make more money than you
yeah, by working 100 hour weeks while I work 40
>and their work will ALWAYS be in demand
until someone imports a bunch of brownoids who will make "acceptable" work for far cheaper and you will be out in the streets
>Yeah, that's only a thing with psychical labour jobs
you know what's also only a thing with physical labor jobs? having to retire early not because you have the money, but because you ground your body to dust, spending your remaining years in pain and dying early because all that booze and cigs/snus you've been washing down the stress (from being an overworked slave) with have finally caught up to you

>>715962218
it's been 10 years at this point? why are you still obsessed?

>>715962367
That, kind of is the quick run down, a lot of people also noticed that he (the librarian) has been putting on a higher and higher voice in his videos so it's probably a foregone conclusion that he's getting groomed.
Genderology is a terrible thing.

>>715962474
BECAUSE NIGGA, I LIKED HAVING GAMER NIGGAS TO PLAY VIDYA WITH. THE CURRENT INTERNET IS GAY AS SHIT AND SUCKS HULK HOGAN DICK AND ASS.

>>715960227
you're crazy if you think he's struggling financially in any way, these top streamers have millions upon millions in the bank

>>715962559
and you think the only way you can do this is by orbiting some manchild sperg?

why is it so hard to watch the funnyman on the internet without coming across so much lunacy

2014 was one of the worst years of my life and I still remember it like it was yesterday, I was 14 crying in my bed because my family had once again all gotten drunk and began physical altercations and other insane hillbilly shit i.e. screaming and pointing loaded guns at each other and even me as my father told me I was worthless. It was christmas and I was soothed myself to sleep by watching vinny's shitty bootleg christmas game stream. Things may be different and Vinny may not be really suited to streaming with other people due to his tism but I still remember the good times. This genuinely happened to me and vinny's streams always made me feel better when shit was rough, so I will always think fondly of those old streams.
TLDR It's good to remember what we had and look for new opportunities I guess......

>>715962559
I love Hulk Hogan dick

>>715962657
>i was raped and then i watched my little pony and now i'm in life long debt to the bronies because the colorful cartoon made me feel better

>>715962636
>manchild sperg
You treat conformity like religious virtue and official narrative like word of god, you have no right to call anybody manchild sperg, faggot.

>>715962657
it's fine to have experiences like this just don't write out a full paragraph of it and ping the streamer with it during a random stream like I've seen people do desu

>>715961892
The event streams quickly became a bit too self-indulgent and just not very funny. I prefer the ones he did in 2017/18 where he had a lot less budget

>>715962636
>orbiting
I occasionally discuss him (moreso his website and the community that used to exist) online when the topic pops up.
>UUUHRHHRR YOU HANG OUT WITH A COMMUNITY OF PEOPLE THAT LIKE AND DO THE SAME SHIT YOU DO???
Of course you fucking retard.

>>715962773
This post reeks of "I've never had any hardship in my life"

>>715962451
>yeah, by working 100 hour weeks while I work 40
No, they work a standard 40 hours a week, anon.
I know that this goes against your worldview leading to you lashing out, but try and stay reasonable won't you?
>until someone imports a bunch of brownoids who will make "acceptable" work for far cheaper and you will be out in the streets
The same could be said about ALL jobs, so this statement means nothing.
"What if a meteorite from outer space destroys civilization" is not a very convincing argument.
>having to retire early not because you have the money, but because you ground your body to dust
This isn't the 70's anymore, anon. Companies are legally required to prioritize the health (and safety) of their workers.
There are strict limits to the weight you're allowed to carry, for example. Unions ensure these rules are followed as well.
Yes, people who do manual labour will encounter health problems related to their jobs.
No, this does not mean they become vegetables when they turn 70.

>>715962837
>just don't write out a full paragraph of it and ping the streamer with it during a random stream
WHY DO PEOPLE DO THIS
IT'S SO FUCKING CRINGE

>>715962657
Ada go online and talk with your pals.

>>715963173
What kind of schizo post is this

>>715963110
it's that parasocial thing or whatever

>>715962824
i read something about parasocial viewers the other day which i didnt know. i always thought that they started believing they were real life friends, but in reality they actually start identifying as the guy they're watching. i thought they were offended by criticism because they felt their friend was being attacked, but in actuality they feel like they themselves are being attacked. which is also why they start adopting all the same opinions and other characteristics of the person. like i bet you like the same music as he does for example. it's a strange phenomena, and i wonder if this a new thing humanity has to deal with, or if this has always been a part of society somehow.

>>715963220
If I guessed right the post would have been spoopy. And I'd epic lol about it.

>>715963271
I've always compared it to a child looking up to a father figure.
They're effectively raised by the streamer and wish to become just like them.

>>715962657
That's nice but maybe you should keep it to yourself

>>715963271
>>715963428
>Could people watch people play videogames they like?
>No actually they're secretly schizophrenics that see them as their new dad
Glass houses nigga

>be me
>think Poke is really funny
>think he makes some of the funniest/wittiest jokes out of the horsemen
>shit like his comedic timing during Lethal Company or his first houseflipper stream where he showed up late from an aquarium and panic built an insane airport filled with garage doors had me reeling
>yea he's a little "dude weed" sometimes, but I can vibe with that
>decide to watch some of his streams
>he does a lot of scrolling through instagram and random youtube videos of black people doing black people shit
>they casually use the word nigga like they do
>in the weeks after I started watching Poke's streams my internal monologue started getting filled with intrusive thoughts filled with hard "R" "nigger"
>internal monologue becomes extremely racist
>stop watching his streams
>intrusive thoughts go away
he is actually pretty funny, but damn, I can't watch his streams

>>715962657
You should probably be talking with a Jewish therapist instead of posting here

>>715963271
>i wonder if this a new thing humanity has to deal with, or if this has always been a part of society somehow
Human brains have always been unable to discern whether a depiction of a person is actually there or not. You consciously realize that they're not, but your brain can't tell the difference.
Sculptures, paintings and TV shows have the same effect as streams on our brains, but now that we can actually interact with the person on the screen the immersion effect is too strong to dismiss for even the conscious part of your brain.
The internet has been both a blessing and a curse in this regard.
>>715963702
Parasocialism isn't like watching football on tv, anon. People go to interact with streamers because they're lonely.
A great example of this is CohhCarnage who calls all of his streamers "buddy" and "friendo" or RTGame whose audience literally calls him "dad" and "daddy",

>>715963038
>No, they work a standard 40 hours a week, anon.
sure, and then they just have another 60 on top of those 40 as overtime to make any sort of livable wage
>The same could be said about ALL jobs
So you agree that the whole "job security" bit is a fucking joke and tradies are just as easily replaced as everyone else?
>Companies are legally required to prioritize the health (and safety) of their workers
Yeah and companies are oh so very well known for not trying to cut every possible corner and for not abusing every possible legally grey zone in their favor to either a) adhere to said standards as cheaply as possible or b) just ignore them outright because a fine from the gubmint is gonna cost them less than enforcing said standards, so when yet another tradies fucks up and gets maimed on the workplace for the rest of his life (or even worse, dies) the company can just pin the blame on the worker and get off scott free

All in all, pretty sweet lies you're spinning there, I get that, the human society is built on top of back-breaking labor, so if there aren't any gullible dumbfucks to sweet-talk into how cool said back-breaking labor is, everything else would collapse, so, thank you for your service, I guess

>>715963827
i just watch poke moments on his yt channel

>>715964152
his streams are really fun and comfy
but yea that's probably what I'll have to do if I want to watch him

>>715963961
I am these "people" you're pretending are a different party when confronted
>RTGame
You mean the OTHER TF2 pedophile that lazily imported the shit that one bald midget from california does?

>>715964024
>sure, and then they just have another 60 on top of those 40 as overtime to make any sort of livable wage
Why are you acting so obtuse? Are you truly offended by these people making more money than you?
>So you agree that the whole "job security" bit is a fucking joke and tradies are just as easily replaced as everyone else?
No, I'm saying that your argument is nonsensical.
>the company can just pin the blame on the worker and get off scott free
Name a single example. No really, you have your head so far up your own ass you can't even discern fact from fiction.

>>715964405
RTGame is a pedophile?

>>715960660
The headcanon you people do to explain why you just don't like a streamer anymore is crazy lmao.

>>715964405
>You mean the OTHER TF2 pedophile that lazily imported the shit that one bald midget from california does?
I'm not parasocial, so I have no idea what you're talking about. Would you mind explaining?

>>715964559
It's telling that instead of pointing out what is wrong, you instead resorted to deflecting.

>>715955118 (OP)
i miss young jerma, when he would make videos on the main channel and around 2016 when he would stream shit and just be happy and kinda goofy
he's so old and tired now (or maybe i'm just projecting)

>>715964475
>Are you truly offended by these people making more money than you?
Why are you acting so obtuse? Do you truly not realize that thses people are making more money by working twice or thrice as much as I do, and if they were working my hours, they wouldn't be making more money than me?
>Name a single example
sure, here's a whole fucking report
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2017/03/07/death-on-the-job-utahs-worker-safety-agency-rejects-heavy-handed-enforcement/
>UOSH also maintains that if it determined there was no fault by an employer, these records are not available to the public. During the 10-year period examined, UOSH has decided that records of 40 fatality investigations and one catastrophe investigation are not public — even including documents of companies investigated for repeat incidents

>>715963827
he is funny but he rarely uses his full potential because of the weed probably

>>715964480
Yea
>>715964568
Uncle Dane, he does this shit where he calls his "community" his nieces and nephews and is originally only popular because he came from a fucking mario plushy channel and knows iDubbbz.
If any part of the preceeding statement didn't set off any alarm bells then I can't help you. Has a whole discord full of troons for his tf2 servers nobody likes and allegedly had been hosting most of the bots to attempt to hold the game hostage and/or drive traffic to his servers (hopefully children) before getting legally told to fuck off and quit being a nigger by Valve when he leaked deadlock.

>>715964964
big if true

>>715964696
Aside from the missmanaged company, everything you said is just headcanon about Jerma hating his audience because of woke. Come on.

>>715961098
i didn't even know you COULD buy frozen rice
who the fuck buys frozen rice? and for what reason? i'm a retard so i just bought a $30 rice cooker and it works like a charm

>>715964964
>RT is a pedo
>Uncle dane was behind the bots
Just lying for the sake of it, gotta respect it.

>>715965207
He bought a rice cooker but thought it smelled weird the first time he used it and got scared to keep using it

>>715960227
>get millions of dollars by just sitting on your ass with your face on a camera
>potentially fuck it all up by buying an expensive house or moving into an expensive neighborhood expecting money to always roll in
Why do they do this?

>>715965068
I mean if you have an answer as to why fairly conspicuously they went into a complete pant filling panic when the bots ACTUALLY got nuked and this did not include any of their other retarded demands being met I'd be all ears.
Otherwise I'm just going to assume those three things happening so close to each other was obviously not a coincidence.

Horsemen streams fucking suck.

>>715959162
His most Lynchian work

>>715965470
Makes sense since he's afraid of ovens and doesn't trust dishwashers

>>715958280
well he has the one girlfriend but none of his stuff involves her aside from some stories.
he keeps his stuff clean despite being utterly deranged.

>>715965631
what a psycho

>>715961007
>get a real job
>he doesn’t know

Jerma is still funny but I hate his wholesome chungus persona that he only puts on because he'd otherwise let the intrusive thoughts win

>>715964957
A plumber literally makes 60k USD a year while the average wage of an office worker is around 36 to 41k USD a year.
You keep saying things as if they're facts. They're not.
About the link you posted: you're mistaken. This isn't about companies, this is about the government.
>UOSH is one of only a handful of state workplace safety programs in the country that do not fine government agencies for violations — even those resulting in death. It is prohibited from doing so by a 1997 Utah law.
Ignoring the fact that this regulation entity an exception to the rule, or that this article is almost a decade old, this 1997 law that is mentioned is about the government being unable to get fined. Not companies. Companies do get fined, see:
https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1760964

>>715955118 (OP)
Shut the fuck up cunt.

>>715960741
He said
>you know, I... I support trans rights and all that stuff...
Like he had a gun to his head, its so blatant he finds it creepy

>>715965432
Dude I fucking wish I was lying the current TF2 scene sucks.
It's all F2Ps pretending to be old fags crying about how tf2 needs more le balance changes and muh artstyle muh sooper serious gayme modes like it's still 2014
You got annoying faggots like that TheWhat guy who talks like he's lactose intolerant.
Fuck these people.

>>715965170
>Jerma hating his audience because of woke
Then please explain why Jerma went from heavily interacting with his audience to barely interacting with it (while ignoring all the virtue signalling) when the woke-cult started taking over and started spamming the chat with unrelated messages, such as the trans heart emote.

>>715965632
He should've kept his community clean

>>715963271
>i read something
Don't care, didn't ask, /v/ is not your personal blog.

>>715965967
yeah because its SOOOOO simple to do that without harshing the vibes lol.

>>715965949
Why are you pretending Jerma didn't explicitly support the trans shit at times?

>>715963271
>strawman
Do you even understand how genuinely batshit insane you sound?
Get some self awareness.

>>715966016
/v/ thinks you need to be like broteam to keep an acceptable audience

Who else got the Vinesauce cards?
I thought it was a shame on the cardsauce video he seemed to want to skim through them real quickly. Guess he's ashamed of his old memes.

>>715966016
Just ban pride/trans emotes in chat and related discussions, explain it once as not wanting to touch controversial topics to keep the stream a fun escape. It snowballed extremely hard, but I don't think it would've been difficult to nip in the bud.

>>715966160
doesn't he still owe a persona stream or some shit

>>715966176
>just ban all pride emotes because you "don't want to take sides"
not sure if trolling

>>715965949
He just got too big, I watch a streamer that did some late night streams, and the dynamic completely changed when there was fewer people. It's just how it is, and if you want actual proof, just go to large streamer that are more right-wing and they do the same, it's just logistics.

>>715966203
Yeah he brought it up recently and claims its still on the way
Its going to be utterly pointless though because there's nothing there that will interest him and the prologue is really slow paced

>>715966052
He literally tried to ignore it for years and only explicitly outed his support when he was pressured to do so when most of his chat turned into a wall of
>HEY JERMA WHY WON'T YOU SAY TRANS RIGHTS
>JERMA SUPPORTS TRANS RIGHTS
>TRANS RIGHTS! TRANS RIGHTS!!! SAY IT!!!!!
>>715966176
>ban pride/trans emotes
This is considered to be an act of bigotry. Not supporting is the same as being against it, according to the woke-cult.
If a streamer so much as says he doesn't support the woke-cult, they get cancelled and bullied off the internet.

>>715966329
yeah it's just a dumb meme

>>715966176
You are an idiot and would have immediately been dogpiled as a "right wing nazi."

>hey guys trans rights and all that but stop spamming please

how hard is that?

>>715963961
>normalfag brains have always been unable to discern whether a depiction of a person is actually there or not.
Ive never had this problem, i always understood that youtubers are merely pic on my screen, but thats because I am not feral troglodite larping as modern human being.

>>715966297
The funny thing is I'm like 90% sure that's a bannable if not partner status revoking thing to do on twitch.
Mostly because emote spam is pretty crucial in their fucking lazy strategy of hiding chat botting.

>>715966306
>large streamer that are more right-wing
Don't exist. You either go full extremist borderline neo-Nazi and join that sphere of influence, or you are effectively ostracized from mainstream internet.

>>715966372
>DO A JOKE JERMA
>DO IT NOW!!!!
>PERFORM FOR US ON DEMAND WHILE WE DILATE NOWWW!!! NOW NOW NOW NOW NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He really is held hostage by these fucking parasites

>>715966306
Also I won't completely deny that woke shit might had some effect on the streams. But your initial message was just full of assumptions.

>>715966297
>>715966372
>>715966386
Jerma has reputation farmed for decades. He, as probably one of the only people, could ban shit like that from his chat and get away with it and he should have. He could've couched it in a broader """"clarification"""" on chat rules, don't pretend you think Jerma would've been cancelled for doing so.

>>715966297
I would be fine if they had ALL the pride emojis (including the racial power ones) now that would be based. You could join randoms and if they complain just mute them if they are cool with it add them. This is how it should be in vidya community, self-control on who you want to listen to and who you don't.

>>715966458
Asmongold is one of them. He is still on twitch right?

>>715966453
the only way you could realistically do it is to just ban all emotes except your own but 1. it would be harder to build an audience because it would annoy new chatters and 2. you'd probably get sussed out for what you're doing anyway

>>715966016
This, it's basically being stuck in a rock and a hard place. You either alienate the trannies and anyone sympathetic to them (which is a LOT of people btw) and the result is that you'll be permanently stained in reputation among many people *and* that you'll probably end up attracting annoying chuddies who just seek an edgelord, or you reluctantly accept the trannies' presence which is annoying but not as much of a fucking landmine as doing the opposite

>>715966756
>which is a LOT of people btw
It isn't really, just more people afraid of getting called transphobic.

>>715966526
lol trannies would make a huge deal about it, jerma does not have it in him to against these retards, he just gets walked over by trannies

>>715966756
you dont have to do that. just ask people to be respectful and not spam. if they start spamming out of spite then you have an excuse. normal streamers do this, this is what happens when you're non-confrontational to a frightening degree.

>>715966756
>anyone sympathetic to them (which is a LOT of people btw)
I think you'll find it's an extremely small group of people, that incidentally moderate every major website online.

>>715966595
Asmongold isn't right-wing and he only very rarely takes sides.
He mostly defends and argues for whatever seems the most logical to him at any given time. Many of his takes are complete misses because he severely lacks real life experience, however.
He's pretty much the biggest supporter of the lgbt/trans community, because he's a big fan of personal freedom. As long as they don't impact his life, he's fine with their existence and quite often defends their right to exist.

>>715966526
you are a retard and he would be immediately dogpiled as a "right wing nazi"
>inb4 "you said the same thing!"
correct.

>>715960227
There's too much poke. He's a pathetic little unfunny manchild who manages to be even worse than Ludwig, who was just a dishonest sleaze merchant.

Poke is a stunted freak who constantly spergs out over the most inane shit and gets incredibly upset about it, after building his career by viewbotting until he got stoners to zone out with his stream on in the background to propel him to e-fame. Of all the streamers out there, I hate poke the most, because he's a dishonest gremlin who stabs his friends in the back and then cries about how they're being mean to him.

>>715966756
Don't forget that being labeled a bigot means losing out on contracts and that no other streamers will want to interact with you (or want to continue being your friend) out of fear of them suffering the same fate.

>>715966953
nah he's pretty funny

>>715966851
But at the start there were very few trannies in his community. Now it's a whole different story, but at the start, their voices from within wouldn't be very loud.

>>715966526
joel isn't sieg heiling on stream but he didn't have the same apparent issues, what does he do differently?

>>715966953
this guys favorite streamer hates poke so he does too lol

>>715967204
I think his content is less accessible (in a good way in this case).

>>715967198
You just need one screeching on twitter that they got banned for a pride emote, then the rest will come out of the water to test it, and when they get banned you've got a scandal.

>>715965867
>A plumber literally makes 60k USD a year while the average wage of an office worker is around 36 to 41k USD a year
that's the average salary of an office clerk, who's basically a nobody - HR assistants, bank tellers, receptionists - useless fucking people and yet they make around ~50k a year
Management makes 140k a year on average
business operations such as your basic bitch Karen from HR, accountants and the like make 90k a year
Software devs and other code monkeys make 117k a year
Engineers make around a 100k a year on average
All those 40h office jobs with benefits pay at least 1.5 times more than being a tradie cuck and you don't even need to slave your life away
a regular office clerk who makes those 50k on average and does menial work is closer to a plumbers apprentice in the scope of his responsibilities, and yet a plumbers apprentice makes 42k in comparison

>>715967304
I think Jerma could've easily weathered that "storm" back then, especially since he's not very active on twitter at all.

>>715964964
> I can't help you.
No one asked or need your "help", narcissistic faggot

>>715967476
Where exactly did narcissism come in?

>>715961007
Lmao Jerma is like the only streamer that isn't basically a nepo hire. Most of these retards are obnoxious freaks without any talent or sense of humour. Jerma isn't one of them

>>715961007
>muh reel jerb
Fuck off, workist cattle

jerma is simply too popular. he should be a 500 viewer streamer max.

>>715961145
The greatest joke the Jerma ever pulled was himself, truly

>>715967204
he's had a few close calls with trannies trying to infiltrate or put him on the spot like the animal crossing stream but he never calls attention to it or takes the bait

>>715955118 (OP)

>>715967387
>office clerk
43K
>HR assistants
77K
>bank tellers
38K
>receptionists
36K
>management occupations
137K (with an average age of 46 years)
>Karen from HR (business operations specialists)
88K
>software devs
130K
>engineer
111K
>plumbers
66K (not counting all the black money earned)

https://www.bls.gov/oes/2023/may/oes_nat.htm
Out of all the numbers you mentioned, none of them were correct. Wow!

>>715968128
>2023
>can't even source the latest data
>reads it wrong anyway
Didn't know tradie cucks were this illiterate, wow!
Here, I'll spoonfeed you, although why bother when you will misread and misinterpret it anyway
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/ocwage.pdf

>>715968424
Oh, thanks for that!
Looks like the average yearly wage of plumbers is actually nearly 70K, not 60K.!

>>715968791
and yet they still make less than anyone above a low end office job, neat!

so you're not allowed to blacklist the troon flag on twitch in your own chat room? you MUST fly the troonfagsex anti-natalist flag or you VILL face ze consequences? lel

>>715968927
yeah
we'd be happy to have you on Kick though!

>>715968962
is this a snide remark from some 5"4 brown twitch employee?

>>715968883
They clearly do not, according to the data you posted.
...you did read through your own source, right? Right?

>>715969060
>t. 5'5" brown neet

>>715966953
>pathetic little unfunny manchild
So almost everybody barring feral 3rd worlders?

>>715969165
thanks for confirming you are mentally retarded, like any pond scum that interacts with the bottom of the barrel trash dying website known as twitch

>>715966953
>spergs
You act as if random people magically care about your thoughts and feelings.

>>715969064
have you? or are you going to default to the same "hurr deadbeat office clerks (like fucking receptionists and tellers lmao) make less than a plumber" garbage? while said office clerks are the absolute career bottom of their professions and do not represent an average grade office worker?

>>715966953
>I hate
No one cares or asked, this isn't your personal blog.

>>715969425
I don't see any quotes, references or sources in your post, so I'm not going to bother reading it.

>>715966953
>stunted freak
You treat official narrative written by pedophiles and their lakeys like word of god.
So lets that sink in.

>>715969672
I accept you concession.

>>715969717
How can I concede when you've made no argument?
By the way, I just realized you moved the goalpost from "office workers" to "high-end office workers" lmao

>>715968927
>anti-natalist

Bringing your own child and innocent soul into this rotting hell is not good thing, sick fuck.

>>715969692
What? He's stunted, both physically, and mentally. The guy can barely string 2 thoughts together.

>>715966016
I agree with your point but the way you type is so fucking annoying I will just call you a faggot.

>>715969805
so an accountant or a regular hr specialist is suddenly a high end office worker? cool.
also if we're talking about "muh arguments" - please, do be so kind to provide argument for your "their clearly do not" claim here >>715969064

>>715969902
But so are you, you literally can't read and sperg out the moment you read non standard reply.

>>715969995
Good.

>>715970020
>their
*they

>>715970020
>so an accountant or a regular hr specialist is suddenly a high end office worker? cool.
You tell me. As far as I know, there is no real definite definition for a "low-end" or a "high-end" office worker, so I made an educated guess as to what you thought it meant.
I'm still not seeing anything that substantiated any of your claims, by the way. ...wait, do you know how arguing works? Need me to explain?

>>715970072
You should really try and learn English before posting here.

>>715970172
>there is no real definite definition for a "low-end" or a "high-end" office worker
so you are telling me you don't know the difference between "clerk", "specialist" and "manager"? Why should I be "arguing" with you then if you clearly don't know what the fuck you are talking about?

>>715969890
yes goy, no children and you cannot improve anything. take no action.

I liked Jerma Rumble Live Action and the Jermaball League videos.

>>715970434
You've had several hours now to substantiate your claims and yet you haven't done a single thing. Curious!

Damn so I guess trades aren't worth getting into...

>>715970964
And yet you endlessly deflect and conveniently ignore the examples provided and still haven't substantiated the claim you've made first in this post >>715969064
Curious!

SHOUTIN AT THE MOUNTAINTOPS BABY SAWMILL

>Excuse me, are you BarackObama?

>>715971071
>the examples provided
You posted a 23-page document, which contains data that I've posted that literally proves you wrong.
I will ask you again: do you know how arguing works? That you're supposed to point towards evidence supporting your claim?
I literally mean it when I don't mind explaining this to you. you just need to ask.

>>715971051
depends on the trade and your location, age, and fitness.
the first two determine how available the work you would be doing is in your area, the latter two determine how easily it will be for you to get into it.

>>715971223
>literally proves you wrong
Care to provide said proof? Point to the data that, you think, will somehow prove me wrong? Or will you deflect again?
You had several hours to substantiate your claims, and you haven't done a single thing!

>>715955118 (OP)
Unrelated to the Jerma stuff but
>recently realized that tf2 is turning 20 years old in two years

>>715971225
Also connections: without connections you're gonna be stuck working for a company that pays like shit.

>>715960660
I can respect Jerma for at least trying to be genuine with his craft even if he isn't into it anymore. That Ludwig guy is the epitome of a soulless moneygrubbing Jew with no intention behind his content besides harvesting revenue

>>715971376
You're lashing out like a child because your worldview is challenged.

>>715971487
>no proof, deflection again
lol, lmao
I accept your concession

>>715960741
I don't think he even said that verbatim. He just banned some guy who was talking shit about trannies and said 'I don't want that shit here this is a non political chat' but it was also the nicest thing trannies have heard in years so they declaring unwitting loyalty to him. And then his chat turned into nothing except trannies trannies and more trannies. I don't blame him for wanting to pull out as soon as possible.

>>715966372
>>715966505
Holy shit, you weren't joking
https://www.twitch.tv/jerma985/clip/LachrymoseCoweringCrabsYouWHY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJXZQ6YqaMo

>>715966851
It's less so the trannies themselves and moreso Hasan's gargantuan sphere of influence. In one breath Jerma will say he doesn't like politics and in the second he's playing with Hasan. Going against Hasan's political viewpoints on Twitch is suicide unless you're Asmongold and his own sphere of influence

the parasocial relationships people have with vinny and jerma is honestly really disturbing

>>715971850
Blame modern society. Companies have commoditized every aspect of human existence and governments have done nothing to stop it. This is the result.

You can tell Jerma really wants to move beyond being an e-celeb and wants to actually be serious with comedy but he's still chained to the blue-pink-white anchor holding him down to twitch

>>715971403
you can form connections in the field.
this is about "world gen" settings, so to speak.

>>715955118 (OP)
>Sharma 908 auburn 500

Would you go back in time and prevent the HBG raid if you could or do you think that would've butterfly effected into something even worse happening

>>715972672
no because it will happen somehow. time is convoluted

>>715971475
Jerma is too nice to say it but I think Ludwig absolutely fucked him over by offering him a job, getting him to retire and then pulling the plug on their whole operation.

DSP is a better streamer

>>715972848
Ludwig didn't pull the plug, reality pulled the plug. It was nobody's fault but Jerma's for accepting the job. Literally EVERY SINGLE PERSON, even the absolutely braindead retard cocksuckers on his discord who worship the ground he walks on and write weird, parasocial fanfictions about his dog that has appeared on screen once 5 years ago STILL thought it was a bad idea and the company would go tits up. Not to mention, this one had Beyond the Summit people as the staff. If you have any familiarity with Dota 2 or the 2010-2015 esports scene, you'd know that the only reason why they were remotely relevant was because of their early Dota 2 coverage, and the only reason for that was that they were the only team in the West that was willing to cover Dota's attempts to break into mainstream esports through Valve's relentless shilling early on. The moment Valve stopped giving a fuck and started outsourcing Dota esports, BTS stopped being relevant and soon wound down. The "LD fat jew, fat and a jew" copypasta still gets posted in /d2g/ even though the studio hasn't had anything to do with Dota in 10 years now, that's how bad their streams could be.
I'm actually thinking, if I saw "moderately popular top 50 streamer with no real world experience opens production company staffed by fat retards from another failed production company" and got offered a job, I would really consider whether to take it or not.
I'd be getting paid to jack off for a year. Start interviewing 6 months in, have something secured, take the last few months off (because the perks of these companies are way too high for the budgets and expected earnings that they have, you know they have insane indefinite time off policies), start the other job and then not even have to deal with any potential HR fallout because there wouldn't be any HR to deal with by the end of the year.
Sadly Jerma doesn't have any transferable skills so back to bum burnout streams!

>>715960915
>open thread
>check out star_'s channel
>oh hey, there's some new vids, i guess i'll check them out
>tf2 gameply but they're talking about soup haha i guess it can be funi
>several minute rant about why people who have a favorite *anything* are garbage consuming golems with no personality, not like me, a unique and true individual
jesus fucking christ, what a dickhead.
the irony of taking your lack of particular taste as a sign of individuality is staggering.
i'm glad i didn't follow either of them into their streaming phase

what did jerma do that's nice to watch?
i watched the geode and the carnival streams but that's about it

>>715960581
High Jerma sucks. I don't think he's done anything lately that was anywhere near as funny as the Condemned 2 hypercam or the Just Cause 4 on 3DS bit..

>>715972848
you guys are acting like jerma is in dire straits despite still getting massive fucking viewership even after a 1-2 year long break

>>715974547
I think star is a funny guy but he let retarded tf2 fans get to him in a way that nobody else ever has ever gotten to anyone
That and apparently he had undiagnosed bipolar disorder for a long time
He played tf2 relatively recently in like 2023 and enjoyed it but just stopped after a bit because the game isn't really what it used to be, nor could it possibly be after such a long time

white knuckle is my goty desu

>>715974547
Ster sucks, every time he's on stream with Jerma he's just a gay shock jock trying to make him feel awkward.

>>715975603
And it works every time.
>Jerma, have you heard of a responsibility of a 10?

>>715968090
>this
>that time when star was a huntsman sniper and lost the round and jerma walks up to kill him but gets taunt killed
Why did these once in a lifetime moments keep happening when they were recording?

>>715975603
yeah it's kino

>>715971707
>17 or younger 19.4%
That's the scariest one

>>715975603
The dynamic worked before, it's jerma who changed, he hasn't got any of the edge he used to have when the two of them were playing.

>>715975603
and it's hilarious every time as opposed to all of these post-Boston parasocial remoras.

>>715960915
Who the fuck even is poke
Is this another Ludwig or something
Also, the four horseman is the lamest name they could have come up with
Hell they shouldn't even have a group name

nu jerma won't even call someone a no life nerd who's never gotten pussy before in his entire life

>>715960915
When I watched random jerma videos and didn't know who the people he was playing with were, I legit thought poke was some random annoying kid they let in the lobby just because he's someone's friend.

>>715961007
>LET'S UP THOSE NUMBERS!!!!

>>715976529
He legit sounds like that fag that walked on stage for from soft that one time at the game awards

>>715971707
Wow
I didn't expect that furry to LGBT ratio

>>715976316
Basically diet Ludwig, yeah. Loaded dune coon with a bunch of affiliations and connections that can leash any personality he so wishes like they're an imported sex slave back in the homeland.

>>715958526
https://voca.ro/16R7p6PKLv9Y

The reason why the community went to shit is more of a greater effect of the internet becoming soulless and twitch becoming soulless more than anything Jerma or his community did

But Jerma retiring and his community going to shit didn't help. I'm a literal tranny (trooned in 2000s instead of this new wave fag shit) and I find that egg shit or tranny culture uncomfortable.

>>715977862
are you hot? Let us see

>>715960660
>chats being spammed to death by virtue signalling
what msgs were the chats being spammed with?

>>715955118 (OP)
Oh you're live on twitch?

N****R
N****R
N****R

>>715978240
>msgs
ts pmo fr ds nga wtf u talmboum retard

>>715977862
>I'm a b-b-based old school t-t-tranny
lmao
kill yourself

>>715978560
okay so you're ignorant about what was said, got it.

>>715978625
Your pedophile in chief freed epstein associates
you rape kids :)

>>715959162
that 7-9 hour youtube comp of this stream is gold

>>715971169
Equip te pn

>>715978240
>what msgs were the chats being spammed with?
See >>715971732

>>715965967
genuinely how do you give a fuck
I watch his streams semi-regularly and the chat has never bothered me
oh no some tranny posted an emote that quickly got slid by the other 10000 people watching ahhhh help

>>715979026
>golem bloodsports shit out of nowhere
this isn't the epic own you think it is, Lilith Sophie Kawasaki

>watch guy
>he's usually funny but goes baby bitch dsp++++ whenever people "backseat" or hurt his feelings
>stopped streaming entirely after realizing his 3070 is a piece of shit and can't handle streaming + recording + games at all (even indieshit he's running at piss poor settings) + his autism sensory overload scripts
>watch other guy
>he's usually entertaining and usually goes all in when it's rp time
>but he also does baby bitch dsp+++++ tantrum mode when people "backseat" or ask a simple question like why the prior day's VOD is missing (there is no way to get this information without having been in the current stream from the start, present at all times, and heard the "something went wrong" excuse, he banned the asker in the end)
>teases full playthroughs with some games while inevitably halting the playthrough after a few parts
>watch other other guy
>he's a background character for the most part
>somehow managed to increase his live viewers to a range of 30-120 and full partnership + twitch drops by playing the most boring shit imaginable (old mmos, pokemon autochess)
>watch other other other guy
>annoying facecam, corpo streamer so he's on a tighter leash and does sponsor shit all the time
>still entertaining when he does off the cuff shit

>remember all but the background character used to do high effort machinima that was popular and well regarded but abandoned all that to streamslop

>>715979443
You might not know any better, but his streams were the most fun when he was constantly engaging with the audience.
He can't do that now because 80% of his audience are mentally ill people who live in an egoistical fantasy land.

>>715979632
I think you're the one living in a fantasy land
absolutely HORRIFIED by this scenario you made up and assured yourself is real

>>715979753
>I think
That's fine, but what gave you the impression that I care about what you think?

OTTO

>>715959162
>on the final mission when turns off all the game audio and music, and it's just him and the sound of his controller
>then he gets busted while in the fucking tractor beam

>>715971707
Jesus christ

>>715971707
>60 fucking percent of the people following your every move is mentally ill
Christ

>>715975603
>>715974547
he's a passive aggressive faggot that's le good at video games
I laugh every time I see his 700 view count compared to Jerma who isn't le good at video games

>>715960227
it was hubris desu. he's a performer first, he has some ideas that are ok but really it's his own personality/presence that brings the numbers. if you take jerma out of the stream and just use his idea with other "performers", it's not the same. plus he was already a big shot when he did his own event streams, he was definitely taking on a loss on those streams. assuming that a smaller streamer could pay out the ass for an event stream but then make it all back in the long run with new subs/followers isn't going to work for some random streamer who does fortnite/youtube reacts 5x per week. the business model never made any sense

i suspect he doesn't stream out of need for money at this point though, i think he's just bored with retirement and still enjoys streaming/getting worshipped by 1000s of chatters. it should be a scary warning to other streamers that even a guy like jerma who can pull 10k viewers on a random tuesday stream can't really leverage that experience into a "normal" job. so if you're some 35 year old streaming to 500 people every day, there really is no exit strategy, you're gonna be streaming until nobody likes you anymore and then be unemployable

>>715979821
Why did you reply?

>>715966953
i know he's got drama with other streamers but he fits in good with the jerma group. honestly i think vinny is the weak link in the foursome (even though he's the only one of the four besides jerma I watch regularly). he's gotten better at fitting in lately, but early on it's like he didn't want to even acknowledge poke or ster, it came off like he was buttmad that jerma didn't want to just duo stream

ster is great and i'm glad jerma has someone in his circle who is ok with shitting on him instead of feeling like they have to walk on eggshells around him

>>715979753
>scared
Is not an argument. I am disgusted

>>715980121
Common courtesy.

>>715980330
I think you're shivering in your thigh-high socks at the thought that some faggot might like the same things as you

His Dead Rising streams were fun. Especially watching him attempt to wrangle the retarded AI in 1.

>>715966176
>>715966526
you guys are crazy if you think jerma isn't for it. he made a big show a while back saying "trans rights are human rights" and that anyone who disagrees should leave. maybe in your head-canon, someone was holding a gun up to his head when he said that, but for anyone living in reality, he's clearly taken a side in the "debate" and he's not gonna be doing anything about the trans emote spam

>>715980572
The alternative was losing over half of his viewer base.
He was clearly hoping it would make the chat spam stop, and that it did.

>>715971707
I'm choosing to believe the non-mentally ill simply don't fill in fag polls like this, that idea is more comfortable.

For me, it’s ster (or star is I like to call him)
Le slightly above average dude who made a wrong decision in his career and when it started to backfire, proceeded to double down due to being too far up his own ass, ending up as a husk of his former self and having to play second fiddle to his now famous dumb friend whos career he basically started
He’s just like me fr fr no cap

>>715962104
he's been getting better, the random ster drop-in on his tony hawk stream the other day was good and gives me the impression he's trying to not come off as "i'm just here for jerma" in the group streams as much

Claiming he's for it is like saying grandma loves her "caregiver"

>>715981156
I like whenever he calls out a jerma chatter that tumbled into his chat and bans them for being retarded or at least severely shames them

>>715975603
that's why he's good, you can tell the people who started watching jerma in 2022 for the "wholesome goofball" shit hate ster

>>715965838
Yeah his community has totally ruined it. Even the mods (especially VrJosh) is trying to fucking control him. I once saw that fucking nigger say "NO YOU SHOULDN'T SAY THAT" when jerma was doing some funny shit. God I fucking hate trannies and twitch losers

>>715981156
I wish he did something with the myriad again

>>715974547
Nah Ster is actually funny. Sounds like you are projecting

>>715982013
I think that the average streamer's complete inability to coalesce on scheduling broke him, considering how often he brings it up in relation to the horsemen. Also the videos/streams probably just didn't do as well as he wanted.

he needs to get a fucking haircut fr

>>715962657
Underage b&

>lil pup can't handle the ster

>>715974547
Yeah, they were kino on youtube but streaming is the death of soul. They were great, basically right up until like 2014-2015 as streaming was getting bigger and Overwatch was trying to eat TF2's lunch.

I understand moving to Vegas when he still wanted to do production stuff but I would be ditching that hellhole affront to nature as quickly as physically possible if I had money and didn't have a damn good reason to remain there.

>>715955118 (OP)
the truth will set you fr-

Glove buddies...Joe bros...monster ranchers...

>>715980968
You’re likely not far from the truth.

>>715981156
the only thing ster is known for nowadays is shitting his pants on stream

>>715960915
I feel Vinny is just holding himself back because he doesn't know how weird he can get with his jokes. He's been getting more comfortable around them gradually. Plus having to hold back for Twitch, his own babbyfied chat and Youtube vods.

>>715983680
he's always been autistic around other internet people despite somehow ending up in a leadership position among them for like a decade, I assume he's probably normal in real life though

>>715982985
>production stuff
Wait, there's people out there that actually buy this excuse?

>>715982945
I mean the issue with star_ is he took a contract to make literally NOTHING but overwatch shit, and lets be real here, other than consolefags who didn't have a choice nobody wanted to play that shit, there's a reason it had to transition and start identifying as its own sequel.

>>715960660
Jerma is too nice for his own good. A normal person would've started moderating their chat and nipped the troonspam at the bud, but he just let it be and now he is permanently associated with the cult.

>>715983771
what other reason did he have? I doubt he particularly wanted to move in with etalyx if he didn't have to

>>715955118 (OP)
AND BOO IS IN THE CALL!

>>715983850
yeah it was the same thing with ludwig. Jerma is too kind or just didn't want to admit how much of a dipshit ludwig is and he just thought that working in ludwigs company could be a great opportunity and here we are

>>715966953
poke is literally retarded but that's why he can be funny in collab streams
i'd never watch him solo because he isn't actually funny, just really, really dumb, like 60 IQ at best
the humor comes from him saying the dumbest fucking shit you've ever heard and everyone else in the call reacting like "is this guy even the same species as us?"

hopefully jerma will never go lower than sponsored stream with hasan.
stopped watching him up until very recently because of that.

>>715984104
That stream will always remain as the worst thing jerma has ever done.
At least his fumbled irl camera board game was a funny trainwreck, but that stream had fucking NOTHING in it.

>>715975603
star_ and jerma have had that dynamic for like 15 years man, it's not new
when nobody else is around jerma is the freak but as soon as star enters the picture he's the one making jerma the straight man, it's why they work together

so when's deltarune chapter 3 and 4

>>715969236
>>715969381
>>715969561
>>715969692
vile samefag freak
don't reply to me

>>715984227
He has already said never lmao

>>715984285
Wait, he did? Where?

>>715962657
Lol imagine getting soulbound to a livestreamer over teenage depression. For me, it was Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate instead.

>>715984227
feeling obliged to read out dialogue in a bunch of voices is like the apex of effort streamers can be forced to put into a stream so probably never

>>715983943
ohh shit

>>715982173
had arcadum not decided to be a freak star probably could have taken a break and then come back
that said he has historically been incapable of committing to any long-term projects
i don't know why that's such a common theme in the TF2 youtuber community but damn, it is

>>715981156
I miss his draw streams, they were chill

>>715975603
Give me the shock jock jock shock me

>>715955118 (OP)
"Nigger"

>>715971707
>Majority White
Wow who could have guessed.

The amount of perverts and trannies who view Jerma as an extension of themselves is legitimately concerning to me. I don't know what causes it.

>>715984583
>I don't know what causes it
A combination of extreme loneliness, parasocalism and mental illness.

>>715984583
>who view Jerma as an extension of themselves is legitimately concerning to me. I don't know what causes it.
Yeah seriously this thread is filled with the mentally ill that think Jerma secretly hates trans

>>715984562
minorities have better shit to do than watch people play video games badly

>>715984583
The same defect that causes lonely, socially awkward people to fall in love with the first person to act nice towards them.

Youtube Jerma >>>>>>>>> Streamer Jerma
His old-channel youtube content was top tier because he was entertaining himself, without having to keep looking at a live twitch chat and keep THEM entertained as well. How many great bits got killed in the cradle because chat was being gay about it? He needed to be left to his own devices to come up with the good stuff.

>>715984583
Literally the idiot being too nice and not setting any boundaries or putting his foot down. Completely infested and he'll never go back to how he was with his humor.

>>715984583
I mean the tranny thing is easy to explain, they're looking for people to groom.
That's all the Church of Genderology does all day. Parasitically attach themselves ro everything, soak up new converts, ruin what they attached themselves to and go to the next thing.

>>715984743
nah twitch jerma was great until his viewership went over 5k

>>715984743
2016/17 Jerma was the peak

>>715984583
Not being told no

what rights do trans people lack

>>715984775
>That's all the Church of Chud does all day. Parasitically attach themselves ro everything, soak up new converts, ruin what they attached themselves to and go to the next thing

>>715984718
This. Bikes aren't gonna steal themselves.

>>715958526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDm6j92DshA

>>715984986
according to the us govt right now, the right to be acknowledged as existing

damn i feel good knowing i can still enjoy watching this funny dude without bringing out a 1-year period from a decade ago and claiming that 10 videos he made back then are better and there's no point in watching anything else.
then again i never go on streams and just watch the 1-2h compilations, so i also never get to see the chat. sure the tf2 era was great, but it's not like everything he did after that is worthless.

>>715962657
I don't think any of the replies to your post are very kind nor necessary, I hope you are doing well anon.

>>715985169
I'm glad for you that you're capable of enjoying the dying light of a broken man.

>>715985169
Noted.

>>715985118
what does that mean in plain english
what can you not do that others can do? you have a social security number and you're a citizen right

>>715980572
>it. he made a big show a while back saying "trans rights are human rights" and that anyone who disagrees should leave
He clearly doesn't like his chat bullying him all the time either way. Jerma was always somewhat a left leaning guy, keep in mind he's a white guy from Massachusetts, but while he doesn't like people bullying trans people it's clear he doesn't like the broader twitch community around them either. Because they ARE toxic as shit , I mean not only do they sexually harass the guy they also demean him for a lot of interests. No one wants to deal with that shit , and unfortunately he had to choose between psycho chuds or psycho trannies flooding into his stream as the broader audience learned who he was

Tragic , his community used to be very curated and fun. Nobody lost their minds over e-celebs politics and general faggotry

>>715985169

>>715984990
This would work at all if the Church of Chud was even a thing.
You might have gotten away with this if you had asserted that it was the literal 8 year olds from that wojak board that make a nuisance of themselves.
Bur as it stands Genderology is a very real issue and like 50% of the current cancer on the internet. The other 50% being literal digital cancer from ShatGPT.

i wish vinny would grow out of tendieslop and rebrand or something
everytime i open his stream and it's mario or zelda or donkey kong i just close the tab. so repetitive
rimworld sucks too

You people are so fucking dramatic, holy shit. I don't know how you can claim with a straight face to be above the other parasocial rejects after reading half of the posts in this thread.

>>715985819
>>715959954

>>715985532
Don't bother replying to the schizo, there's no curing whatever the fuck is wrong with him

>>715985819
you don't get it, they're enlightened because they keep up bringing trannies every minute. you see trannies ruined everything. they sucked out this streamer's soul. trannies trannies trannies. it's their fucking FAULT

>>715985995
in this case it unironically was the trannies

sometimes i open up his chat while he's offline for a laugh. you always get the excruciatingly mentally ill people there.

>>715962657
The replies to your post were not kind but necessary. Have a smoke the next time you're feeling down (unless cigs remind you of your family)

>keep bringing up a 30s clip from 5 years ago in which a streamer says "trans rights"
sure dude, the streamer is mindbroken.
not anyone else here in this thread typing out 100 posts about the consequences of that single moment and how it "ruined the community" or whatever it means

>>715984583
>straight white male who seems to be only interested in relationships with asian women
they will turn on him eventually

>>715986240
is his current gf asian

>>715985819
>>715985995
They're right though LOL!!!!!!

>>715958280
>troon shit
Where nigger jerma never said anything degenerate he doesnt want you to become a sissy he literally just plays videogames and doesnt like politics of any kind, where is the troon shit.

>>715986240
>interested in relationships with asian women
You really never seen Holly or you just operate on 2020 information to complain about the trannies?

>>715986221
I have clips I can post too but I can't imagine a butthurt retard too scared to even reply to anyone is worth what little effort it would take

>it's totally true please believe me!!
lol

>>715986379
i thought she was a chubby filipina

>>715959678
WHAT IS THIS SOME KINDA CURRENCY THING?

>>715986221
People already agreed that twitch murdered everyone's communities Trooner Groomer.
Try and actually keep your seething aligned with what's on the thread I get Sum Zoo said let a nigger bust a cap in his own ass that shit is convenient, but on some level it's like watching a tard bash his head on a wall, I gotta put the tard helmet on you.

>>715986221
No-one wants any acknowledgement nor affirmation of mentally-ill people and their subhuman ideology/lifestyles. It doesn't matter if it was 5 years ago or 10 years ago. Catering to subhuman, brain-fucked people is awful, and no normal human wants it nor likes it.

>>715986276
no, she looks normal.
on here there are always some that throw a fit because and claim she's deranged or a furry or something.

>>715986276
No, Holly is white.

>>715960227
>expensive house
Huhh? I tought he lived in an average joe house, hell his streaming room has nothing fancy in it.

>>715971732
Forcing people to say that fucking phrase is full on havel's greengrocer bit about being forced to say a slogan as a statement of submission and fear. That's how these fucks operate, the ostensibly powerless when given a wiff of power become rabid mad-fucking dogs with no magnanimity. It's nothing more than the thrill of making others bend a knee to them.

>>715986595
She looks like my English teacher. Back in 2011.

>me and my tulpas already agreed on this, tough luck

>>715986595
she kinda has that michael jackson look to her

>>715986221
But it did ruin the community. The last time I watched him live was his the thing stream and the trans rights spam was so bad it felt like a discord raid.

>>715986640
he does, people are making shit up because they project him being miserable.

If you ever need more proof /v/ is infested with underage look no further than this thread.
Some of you are in here literally just yelling quotes from your favourite 'streamer' (read: children's entertainer).

>um actually my insane parasocial orbiting and high-school tier gossiping about an e-clown who makes funny videos is better because it appeals to my beliefs
You're still talking like teenagers about a man who you've never known, and who you never will know above a surface level as if you have their entire life figured out... by watching YouTube compilations and Twitch streams. You think you're outside the circus of weirdos but you're just the centerpiece of another attraction in the same freakshow.

>>715986771

>>715986771
in this case it's more of a proof that people here are pushing 30

>>715986665
>That's how these fucks operate
Correct. Their values and beliefs cannot survive in a marketplace of ideas.
They need to employ violence and social pressure to survive and expand.

>>715986771
There are next to no zoomer children anymore, boomers-san. It's all alphas nowadays and they barely watch streamers.

>>715986710
sounds like (you) issue

>>715986845
Yet you still show up here to make vague seethe posts

>>715983943
Genuinely miss Boo, he was underrated. Honestly I miss the WaW through MW3 era CoD youtubers, just putting up chill match videos and messing around with fun loadouts

>>715986771
jerma and star's most popular videos are now 12-13 years old
even if you were 8 when watching you are now an adult

>>715984285
Based

>>715986845
>Entire thread of people talking about shit they watched a decade ago
>YOUR OBSEEEEEEEESSSED YOUR OBSEEEEEEESSED WITH MEEEEEEEE VIA THEEEEEEEEM
Get a new tactic retard.

>>715987064
No, reread my post. I clearly said it was a tranny issue.

>>715984743
Yep, anything past like 2014 is just a sad shell of the former fun. I miss Meatboy Mondays

>>715987215
...What? I don't even know what you're trying to imply here. Stop jumping at shadows, dumbass.

>>715986845
>tkmiz picture
Smartest troon larp award

>>715958280
I AM
THE LAW!
https://youtu.be/TXf-MSXw30U?si=5nDalXJUfLGkUeIB

>>715986845
>that reaction gif
you are a larping tranny, pls jump off a bridge

>The entirety of tkmiz works got stained by a tranny that offed himself
I fucking hate it here

>its a "jerma plays friendslop with unfunny no name niggers"

>>715987486
Wait, is that what they're screaming about? I just saw a reaction image I liked one day and saved it. Absolutely hilarious.

>>715987486
>offed
go back, tranny

>>715958280
What troon shit?
What girlfriends? He's had literally just one and she's been an extremely minor character.
What eceleb drama?

>internet clown's chat was spammed by tranny emotes 5 years ago
>billions must die

>>715987629
Yeah, some guy with a tkmiz pfp posted a picture of himself on a cliff, uploaded it to twitter and jumped off.
Got viral and now the entirety of GLT/SS is now troon media because retards from both sides.

>>715982587
anon I...

>>715987565
>friendslop
Alright, I'll bite. What's friendslop?

>>715987486
>trannies are parasites even after they're dead
kek

>>715987754
This but unironically but not billions just the trannies :)

>>715987828
lethal company, repo, peak, yada yada

itt

There has never been a good post talking about trannies. Including this one.

>>715963271
I don’t think this is true.
Anytime you join a social group you will start to adopt their mannerisms and behaviors. This is no different and isn’t really “unhealthy” at all.
You aren’t identifying him as a father, or identifying yourself as him.
“You are the company you keep” this is a saying for a reason.

https://youtu.be/v3TE3fkZ45s?si=PH2yQaQo5B_QKg4o

>>715987565
him playing vidya with ster is like decade+ old at this point

>>715985532
>like 50% of the current cancer on the internet. The other 50% being literal digital cancer from ShatGPT
"The internet is only bad because of the ideologies I hate, not because of things contributed to over the last 11 years"
Church of Chud daily prayer

>>715987565
Vinny is more popular than Jerma though.

>>715988050
There is a common factor

>>715988175
>11 years ago
oh like gamergate
man, chuds are always on point

>star_ starts uploading consistently again
>it's all fucking stream highlights
>not even edited by him
Such a fucking tragedy. He's funniest as a video editor (RIP Basically) but that just gets no views I guess

>>715984583
It's not like he discourages it by doing things like talking about the size of his ass or making pregnancy a running gag.

why are you guys badmouthing my friends

>>715988658
Twitch completely killed a lot of former funny creators. Now instead of trying with actual videos, it's all shitty stream highlights edited by some random third worlder they got from linkedin.

>>715988179
vinny tops out at like 4k viewers if it's not a sunday stream despite having a very consistent schedule. jerma pulls 10k easily just popping in on a random weekday

>>715988697
>friends
grim

Sperma is quite simply a poor man’s Moogleftw

What is jerma 985's real name?

>>715989059
985

>>715989059
Jeremy Elbertson

>>715988449
Whoa whoa whoa there hey now, you can't bring up basically THE inciting event that basically launched the google holocaust and killed real communities online.

>>715989059
trans rights warrior

>>715988829
The issue is that NOBODY is just endlessly funny for hours on end. With youtube you could edit down to the best bits, but streaming is just a hangout session with someone who isn't your friend and can't respond. And when they DO respond, it's a constant checking if chat likes a joke, ruining them in the cradle. It's identical to that onion video where all the correspondents keep saying "post office box" because it makes their audience rating go up.
https://youtu.be/uFpK_r-jEXg?feature=shared

>>715989059
Bill Nomary

>>715988658
this is how "content creation" works now. makes way more financial sense to stream and then upload stream highlights than to spend a fuck ton of time editing original videos. having someone else edit your stream highlights gives you more time to pump out more streams as well, editing your own highlights would slow down your output. most streamers who can pull more than 500 viewers do this shit now, it's a "solved problem" unfortunately. 1 good video every month that gets 50k views tops just isn't worth as much as 4 videos a week, even if those only get 5k viewers

>>715989059
Dave State

>>715989274
>The issue is that NOBODY is just endlessly funny for hours on end.
Yes they are? It's clear you've never seen a tomato stream.

>>715987949
We already had a term for that: streamer bait.

>>715988449
Yes the sexist and misogynist attacks in the name of "GamerGate" directly and forseeably led to a protected class of women on the internet which direcly led to an increase in "trans rights"

>>715989619
sorry boomer, but friendslop is the new lingo, you should get on with the times

Why do all great streamers have fucked up backs?

>>715989619
Only it's not for streamers, it's for people with friends.

>>715989030
Haven't heard that name in a while
>You've got a loli in the bath, a loli on the bed, open this drawer here? Hidden compartment loli!
Was even funnier because he had a little sister he played games with

>>715989737
Bad posture while gaming.

>>715980079
>i suspect he doesn't stream out of need for money at this point though
He definitely does, he has made a point of never running ads before and now he runs ads pretty much every stream.

>>715987823
Anyone born after 2000 will be eternally underage, sorry little zoomie

>>715989786
He was very funny even if a lot of it was just cramming in references to other things. That era of youtube was so good compared to the slop we have now, I don’t care if the video quality was terrible.

>>715990084
I thought he ran ads because twitch literally forces you to do it now, to the point he stops doing anything interesting/warns viewers about ads before they happen

>>715989734
>sorry boomer, but friendslop is the new lingo, you should get on with the times
Umm, dated memes, much? Negative aura. frfr

>>715990165
Yeah he was one of my favorites, just a brit hooligan making jokes. His condemned playthrough was great.
I also remember watching Jefmajor though his humor would be considered lolrandumXD by today's standards(take me back.)

>>715955118 (OP)
TF2 is dead.
Jerma retired.
STAR_ is a failed streamer whose rpg failed.

Move. The. Fuck. On.

>>715990297
lmao, unc tryna fit in :skull:

>>715980968
>LGBTQ++ Moves into neighborhood
>Normal people leave
>Now its a gay neighborhood

This but with social media circles, where this poll was filled out.
I just watch his streams mostly and I assume most people are the same.

>>715990283
I actually wouldn't know about that, I hope that's the case because it'd feel kinda bad if he really was only here for the money.

>streamer tries to broaden their audience and starts doing collabs with the most aggressively unfunny, autistic, charisma-sucking dudes alive
RIP Vinny, Jerma, and Coney.

>>715990606
If he wanted more money he'd ask for subs/donations and read them out loud and all that jazz.
It sounds retarded but statistics show that doing so works.

I remember one time where he made quite a funny alex jones impression and his tranny audience got so mad spamming -2

>>715987810
>now

>>715990084
>>715990283
>>715990606
https://twitch.pages.dev/
he made 450k a year before running any sort of ads and having half the viewer count
he is not hurting for money

>>715986665
its basically the "struggle session" used in China's color revolution, I assume that the people behind these "organic movements" are trained to use these tactics and popularize them.

>>715990914
>he is not hurting for money
he's gambling them all away continuously, dumbass

>>715955118 (OP)
I can't think of a bigger fall offening
I tried to catch some of his monster rancher stream and it was nothing
the only 2 streamers I like have simultaneously aged out, fuck

>>715971707
>19.5% "Female"

>>715971928
Yeah if he's actually writing down bit ideas and plans for events then he's already gone far above the usual Twitch streamer in terms of taking their craft seriously.

>>715991032
He does have SOME.

>>715990084
twitch will run ads automatically now even if you never opt into running them yourself. this usually means a "pre-roll" ad as soon as you click on the stream and then another ad every hour. if the streamer opts in to run the ads themself once an hour, then the pre rolls wont happen and you can control the timing so the ad runs when you're pissing or whatever and not at the climax of a boss fight or whatever.

i'm sure he's not complaining about the extra money, but he'd have ads going whether he ran them during breaks or not

>>715981156
I actually like recent ster, I don't watch a lot of streams period but his are the only ones I'll actually watch vods of.
I don't watch him enough to say this with absolute certainty, but he seems to have finally moved on from caring what his audience of "duuuude you should play tf2!" thinks about him and just does what he wants. I'm glad he has started uploading on his main channel again.

>>715990384
>Jerma retired
streams more regularly now that he did for a couple years leading up to his "retirement"

cant imagine watching his streams without the troon emotes filtered, its good that the trannies cant help but attach them to their posts

>>715991195
What the fuck compels someone to post this shit online?

>>715991389
idk man

>>715991389
what compels a woman to crave attention at all times?
what compels a river to flow and the Sun to rise and set?

>>715955118 (OP)
anon, let me tell YOU something. YOU are such a good tf2 player y'know YOU won the duel that i'm gonna shit my pants so you don't have to show anymore footage. you win. IT'S OVER.

>>715989737
People will tell you it's gamer back like they're Korean preteens or something, but it's opioid addiction
"Back pain" is the #1 excuse and easiest way to get them
It's absolutely the case for Jerma who hasn't been a real gamer for eons now and also has his gambling addiction too that's so bad he can't commit to this "retirement"

>>715991202
I cannot relate to people who don't use adblocker
I'm grateful for them though, in the same way I'm grateful for bees

>>715991015
I used to like avoidingthepuddle but he became the type of bitch he used to make fun of

>>715991630
what ad blocks even work on twitch? i have alternate twitch tv player and it works but the quality goes to shit whenever theres ads playing

>>715955118 (OP)
>I'M SERIOUSLY GONNA GO SIT DOWN ON THE TOILET AND PISS UP INTO MY FACE

>>715991630
twitch has been better about getting around adblockers now, out of the box ublock doesn't work and a couple purpose made extensions for blocking ads on twitch don't work anymore either. it's still very do able but it seems like the average viewer has just given up

i just wouldn't watch twitch without adblock though, insane to click on a stream just wanting to see what they're doing and being immediately met with 3 minutes of ads, sometimes the same one repeated several times back to back

>>715989304
>>715988658
One of the saddest things ster ever uploaded to youtube
>The Basically series takes me upwards of 120 hours to edit together per video
>Or I can fart out a Late Night Commentary in two hours and get 5x the views

>>715992047
which ones work?

>>715990364
Ah man I watched him as well, this is taking me back. Did you like Retsupurae as well? Their long plays got me through so many shitty evenings in high school/first year of uni

>>715991389
The fatherless brain bluescreens when given a parasocial surrogate.
>daddy? I love you daddy :) fuck me catboy egg daddy RAPE ME!!! RAPE!!!!!! daddy I love you DIE DIE DIE never leave me
Along the lines of that.

>>715960227
the problem wasn't the event streams; that's what the sponsors were for. the problem was that at some point it just stops being fun to stream every day. ludwig's stupid fucking company was a good way for him to jump out. i don't doubt he has some level of disdain for the larger, more annoying part of his fanbase, but it's not so strong that it would seep into his streams. if every stream was a mario tennis aces, maybe then we'd be able to say IT'S OVER anyway i think the time away was good for him because he now knows he doesn't have to have a strict schedule to go off of.

>>715966016
never having associated with that soul sucking faggot Ludwig and his community that nearly killed Jerma's drive to stream that put him on his "retirement arc" would've been a start

those 500 were not give any MONEY to this stream anyway

>>715992547
Nah, but judging by these videos I would have. Never thought I'd be nostalgic for video let's plays. I remember my brother and I actually uploading a few videos ourselves, playing shit like black and white and rome total war.

>>715960227
That shit with Ludwig wasn't even a real job, that faggot just wanted Jerma's name on the company paper for the grift and marketing, he essentially kept Jerma in a backroom writing bits they never used, allowed him minor creative control on one real event, and let him make a few 10 second cameos on some others.
Ludwig is genuinely a shit person and I'm glad Ster convinced Jerma to bail when the opportunity came and he was being shuffled/laid off. He seems a lot happier streaming again now than he was the last year leading up to joining that influencer group.

>>715964958
Have you tried being funny? It's difficult to be *that* funny, and the weed probably helps as much as it hurts.

>>715993609
>Ster convinced Jerma to bail
is this head canon or is there proof ster was involved in this decision?

>>715965582
I like Horsemen streams, but I fell asleep during the last one

>>715993609
ludwig dogging on jerma in the house flipper 2 competition, begging for a high score with a shit fucking meme build, was what cemented him to me as a fuckwit that gets off from being higher than everyone else

all of Sters DND players suicided every game, or where to stupid to get the puzzels, so felt bad and quit, even though everyone liked it.

>>715965582
peak was pretty good, but yeah i skip most of them

>>715994295
>ludwig dogging on jerma in the house flipper 2 competition
lmao what did he say? i assumed they were still butt buddies

>>715967204
It's an aura thing