Fuck this asshole.

>>715964108 (OP)
Your days drawing 10 foot fury cocks is over.

Apologize.

why do retards hat ai so much i dont understand

>>715964264
Timmy loves AIslop as well.

>>715964264
Statement by timmeh claiming ai is the anti christ when?

>>715964332
They have AIDS (AI Derangement Syndrome)

>>715964264
Sweeney endorses NFT shit and let's literal scams on his store.

>>715964108 (OP)
>powerful new tool will enable you
duh

>>715964332
Retards hate it because they see smart people hating it, smart people hate it because it's cancer by the way.

>>715964264
I never doubted you, king

>>715964685
smart people don't hate it
https://www.reddit.com/r/aiwars/comments/1jttjje/john_carmack_corrects_antiai_doom_fan_on_assuming/
>"don't use power tools because they take peoples job" is not a winning strategy

>>715964332
The code it outputs is pure aids

>>715965007
only because it looks at your shitty codebase

People always hated on new tech that made old skill obsolete.
Mainly the people whose skills were made obsolete.

>>715964952
https://x.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1909311174845329874

>>715964108 (OP)
God damn he's so fat

>>715964332
I hate it because it renders all of humanity (especially you) obsolete. It's a culture shift that we're simply not ready for.

>>715965143
i look like this

>>715965143
Yeah.
But he is fat and rich. You are just fat.

>>715964952
Yes, yes they do. Knowing about ai and not hating it disqualifies you from being considered smart.

>>715966569
john carmack is among the smartest people in the world
that means if you hate ai you aren't actually that smart
just a 120iq midwit at best

>>715966684
If he likes ai then he's a retard. End of story.

>>715964108 (OP)
he is right though, all programmers use LLMs now, not to say that long term it wont make programmers retarded nullifying the advantage, but it does help when you are in an area you are weak in.

>>715964108 (OP)
You can call him an asshole, but you can't say he's wrong.

>>715964952
>"It's good because it i̶s̶ t̶h̶e̶ d̶e̶a̶t̶h̶ o̶f̶ c̶r̶e̶a̶t̶i̶v̶i̶t̶y̶ lowers the barrier of entry for little guys! ^-^ just like any other tool that makes developers' job easier, it only leads to better games!"
funny because games have gotten worse and I keep hearing about a competency crisis in every field where no one has any talent
can we just admit all those evil "barriers of entry" and "roadblocks" were always a good thing that filtered out the unqualified and sharpened the best into geniuses?

>>715964108 (OP)
Why? What am I missing?

>>715964108 (OP)
He's right. Shortly before the advent of Chatgpt I got sent to a Powershell course by the boss as a codelet and came out with enough skill to slowly build a script over the course of a workday to satisfy whatever bullshit my boss asked for. It was slow but most of the time I was able to get whatever he needed working with minimal issues. Now I can just ask it whatever and get a script in seconds and then troubleshoot it myself and have a working script in less than 10 minutes.

Imagine the amount of time your average dev, including indie devs, when you have a personal coder on your team that would do literally exactly what you asked and then you can either tweak it yourself or ask it another question to fix it. AI will be required in the industry soon and Gabe is just being truthful.

>>715967313
Doesn't that happen everywhere? The harder to make something is the more effort and care is put into it to mitigate the risks. Plus fewer top studios means more evenly distributed talent on them because there is just nowhere else to go.

>>715967583
try gemini cli
it'll run in the terminal and do commands itself
shits comfy

>"more effective developers of value"
>meanwhile in reality

>>715964332
They have jobs that will have 80% of positions lost to AI over time and they're butthurt about it. The future is AI generation with a small team of artists/developers going over the results and fine tuning/correcting it.

>>715968447
if you look at the study it was a joke

>>715964108 (OP)
Wtf chat is this real
why would gabe say this

>>715967583
Yes but it depends on your industry and laws. For me if someone could pump out a script in 10 min you’re getting laid off lol.

>>715968724
because gabe isn't a moron

>>715968848
>For me if someone could pump out a script in 10 min you’re getting laid off lol.
why?
sounds like you are just going to get replaced by vibe based startups

>>715964108 (OP)

Gabe always put money first, its exactly why he gutted Valve in the first place.

>>715968848
Scripting isn't my exclusive job, I do way more things behind the scenes than just scripting, but why would you lay someone off who can make a script in 10 minutes?

So how exactly will AI help the average joe? It just seems like it will fuck everyone BUT the people that were already at the top, people said that only artists would be affected but now programmers are getting hit too, so really, no one is safe.

>>715968629
Ai is garbage and can't be used as is, and it'll kill the market for the people to get trained in so there are fewer people even capable of correcting it leaving you with lower and lower quality results as time goes on. A future that doesn't kill ai is a shitty future.

>>715969609
>So how exactly will AI help the average joe?
the average joe is replacing the artists and coders

>>715969696
So how much will games cost then?

>>715969668
don't forget the AI inbreeding when everything is made using AI

>>715969868
whatever the person selling them thinks its worth
its a free market

>Wants AI games
>Bent the knee to payment providers
But LE BASED GABEN, am I right or what fellas?
This is why don't worship CEO's.

>>715964108 (OP)
Need to get the phrase "ai slop" out of your head because Ai is just going to get better and better. Might as well buy rope off home depot if you continue being contrarian.

>>715969668
>Ai is garbage and can't be used as is
If you honestly think it isn't simply going to get better and better as ai teaching techniques, hardware and software improves you're delusional. It may take a decade or two, but like it or not ai generated content is the future, better buckle up.

>>715969960
Shouldn't they be cheap as shit if they were made quickly with little to no manpower behind them?

>>715969868
Eventually AI will reach a level that you can buy game creator packages and make your own games through nothing but prompts.

>>715964264
>Apologize.
I'll never apologize to this faggot.

>>715964108 (OP)
culling luddites shouldn't be illegal, it should be encouraged
if the internet back then existed to give them a voice we would never have gotten electricity because its evil and makes human labor obsolete

I will not consume the AI slop
I will not play the AI games
I will not watch the AI movies
I will never acknowledge AI "art"
Fuck AI and fuck its defenders.

>useless parasites like artists, programmers, voice actors, writers will all go homeless in my lifetime
Feels good to have a real job lmao

>>715970443
>Gets replaced by immigrants
They'll always go for the cheapest option

>>715970443
>I analyze markets
>I make algorithms
>I code
there

>>715970274
Electricity lead to internet lead to social media. Try and prove electricity isn't evil you can't.

>>715970082
best part is they can't pull out the excuse they were readying all this time of "well of course steam would go to shit after gaben is gone, he was /ourguy/!", he's gone full mask off

>>715970443
>a squad of Indians has deployed to your location
Good luck fishing when you got a whole family of pajeets willing to do it for half your pay.

>>715970274
>"you are morally opposed to these changes? lmao cry luddite that's the way things are going adapt or die bitch"
>the world gets unimaginably worse in every way
>"AIEEEE WHY IS THIS HAPPENING IT'S THE HECCIN FALL OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION IT'S THE JEWS SAVE ME CONSERVATISM!"

>>715964108 (OP)
People should know by now he is like 80, he's become senile, just ignore what he says
>>715964952
People were able to shit out quality timeless game in less than a year before, AI will just make $ eyes grow in the face of some activision CEO and make them fire any developer worth a damn to replace with slop machine

it will not make games cheaper, it will not make them come out faster, it will make them cost less to produce and horrendous quality, and consumers can't even bring themselves to not buy slop or resist gacha pulls or not buy that awful new mario kart until nintendo lower their price

if you support this kind of shit you will make video games become irreversebly worse, its not just a tool that will help developers, its pretty obvious where it will land, or were you one of those people that thought games would get cheaper when they became full digital to save costs?

>>715964264
>endorses not only AI but also NFTs and fake game frauds

>>715970824
>and consumers can't even bring themselves to not buy slop or resist gacha pulls or not buy that awful new mario kart until nintendo lower their price
this is my favourite part of carmack's comment, when he goes
>"labors of passion will still stand out above the slop and be the most popular!"
such a cope that ignores how people work, they will pick the slop that's most affordable while being "good enough" just like they do with their clothes, food or car

So, what jobs will AI create? Or are we past that cope already?
>inb4 i'll just game dev lol
The market was already saturated, if AI is as half as efficient as people in these threads make it out to be, wouldn't it get worse then?

>>715964108 (OP)
>muh job
adapt or die troonie

>>715971068
Carmack is just a tech guy, nothing wrong with that, that's his passion, but he never really liked the game part in video game, he's just using that oldfag dev fame to attract people

>>715969696
no, the average jeet is replacing the artists and coders.

>>715965102
> People always hated on new tech that >made old skill obsolete.
>Mainly the people whose skills were >made obsolete.
GOOD MORNING, SAAR!

>>715964108 (OP)
I hate this fat fuck because he was the one who cancelled Episode 3, aside from that he's right here

AI should be used as a tool, some things will get replaced entirely by AI and others it will just be a tool to make things faster and easier for the developer, especially in coding

>>715971453
Why should i hire anyone when i can just wait for AI to get better and make a whole game on my own?

>>715967583
>Imagine the amount of time your average dev,
What you're describing is not what the 'average dev' would be doing.
What you're describing is what a wet-behind-the-ears, fresh-off-the-street junior dev with no prior understanding of topic matter would do.

In reality, the way most more experienced devs use AI tooling is exploratory -- e.g. get it to map out and explain an existing code base that is lacking proper documentation -- or to facilitate automation of rote scaffolding operations.

If you are 'vibe coding' you are not a software developer.
You are a poser who is in the 'fuck about' phase before they will inevitably 'find out.'
And I can only pray it's YOU who will find out; and not your customers...

n-no... digital recordings will make live movie orchestras obsolete...! #MUSICIANSAGAINSTRECORDINGS
n-no... photography will make painting obsolete...!
#PAINTERSAGAINSTPHOTOGRAPHY

etc etc. You cannot UNINVENT something. You cannot close Pandora's box.

Not going to lie, the Google Gemini thing that shows up during searches has been astoundingly helpful. It seems to recognise incorrect spelling in a stronger way than fuzzy searches do, and it browses context of various game wikis.

Slop will always exist. See the myriad of threads about payment processors banning incestshit from Steam. Hundreds of games with the same fucking name.

Whining about it on this imageboard isn't going to change shit. As irritating as vegans, "organic" food obsessed losers and hipsters are, there is a market for that shit, and there will be a market for "pure no AI business!" It may be akin to the "carbon neutral" buzzword.

>>715971720
>Pay hundreds of dollars to go to a concert
>Make a whole new song for free in seconds
Gee really hard decision there

>>715964108 (OP)
>AI or streetshitter outsourcing
it's gonna go one way or another anon, you really sure you hate AI?

>>715964108 (OP)
>coworker "makes" app using one of those ai app builder sites
>tells me we're no longer paying for it and I need to add a new feature to it locally
>export the code
>monolith of 100+ files for some basic functionality

Don't want to waste my time on it honestly

>>715971068
Passions projects still make money and you can still buy them and enjoy them. You don't have to participate in the slop market at all.
>but the slop
Indians eat shit. Millions of Indians eat shit. Do you? No of course not.

>>715964332
Afraid of innovation. They're the same ones who would be telling us we don't need Cars when we got Horses.

I only care about the end product, not how it is made.

>>715971806
Only autistic people can’t understand why most normal people want to support humans making music, and not AI slop, regardless if the “real thing” is expensive and the AI is literally free. For many people, music is a form of connection to another human, it’s not some detached experience that can be made by a machine. They want to hear a song an experience the passion of the person who made it.

>>715964332
It made "artists" realize they're worthless and 95% of "artists" chose to be "artists" for the attention and prestige they thought they'd get

>>715964108 (OP)
>Nooooo my replacement dad was supposed to be a luddite like I am waaa waaa

>>715964108 (OP)
God damn the ozempic face is real.

>>715964332
Most of what you see made with AI are artwork and voiceovers, and both of those are bad. Artwork is barely coherent and looks incredibly generic and unappealing and downright uncanny, while voices are unemotional and robotic. AI is not good for art yet, so most assume it's not good for anything yet.

>>715972280
>Artwork is barely coherent and looks incredibly generic and unappealing and downright uncanny
Lmao, maybe if you use online generators like Dull-E. Local genning is great.

>>715969609
In theory, it'll allow the average joe to compete against industry veterans.
In practice, it'll allow every other average joe to do the same. Pic very related.

>>715972061
Most modern humans are just flesh automatons, you think they actually care about that?

>>715972603

>>715972629
>you think they actually care about that?
Yes, Pajeet, they do care about supporting actual human artists.

>>715972089
It's not only artists anon, even people who thought that they were safe like programmers aare starting to get hurt by this, they'll replace everyone with AI and those who can't will be replaced with pajeets

>>715972772
web devs aren't programmers

>>715972828
>That doesn't count
Cope, better get those work boots ready anon, the mines yearn for fresh meat

>>715972903
Sounds like you're the one coping

>>715972731
Did you watch the latest Looney Tunes movie?

>>715972603
this, local genning is awesome

>>715964332
Money.
The reason will always be money.
Real artists don't do art for money by the way and commercial products are not art.

>>715972951
Why? I'll be able to make my dream game, why should i cope?

>>715973061
lmao you're retarded if you"re think that's going to happen

>>715964952
literally who

>>715964332

>>715972772
those companies arent replacing the employees with ai. they make up some nonsesnse like "we will make up for the reduced headcount by increasing efficiency with automation", maybe they will claim to use ai to achieve that but those are empty words and everyone knows it

>>715972772
yassssssssssss slay king, let them come through the door legally!

>>715973176

>>715973176
WTF!
I love AI now!

>>715964332
good morning saar

>>715971134
It's mostly pajeets that think that AI will open new jobs for them. They're thoroughly convinced that if it takes off they'll get paid six figures to do nothing but type some prompts into a field to generate some images or some shit. The thing that they fail to realize is that if it ever becomes that easy to use developers will probably just allocate that shit to interns or just add it to their existing employees. Even if that shit does get outsourced to India, the heads of those AI sweat shops are the ones who are going to take home the big bucks while the poos doing all the typing get paid peanuts in typical pajeet fashion.

>>715973058
So true.
t. Artist.

>>715970549
>I crew a diesel powered, aqua-based industrial platform mandated to supply the piscine market
Strawman comics are cringe

>>715964108 (OP)
>technical coding work and more tool-oriented tweaks
Once again he's right and niggers are too stupid to read. He's not saying you should use AI to make art assets, he's saying it's a useful tool for the kind of tedious data processing work computers are good at.

two more weeks until ai produces one thing of value, trust the plan

Why do leftists hate AI so much?

>>715972603
Reasonably coherent. Not uncanny. Still generic and unappealing.
>>715972670
That chair in the foreground is retarded. Those lamps are retarded. That lamp isn't even attached to anything. That statuette near the fireplace is visual gibberish. That beer glass i- is it shopped in? Serious question.
>>715973057
This looks... tolerable, admittedly. Unlike the sanic picture, this seems to have a proper semblance of composition, you could definitely foold me into thinking this wasn't sloppa if it wasn't for that slightly incoherent belt and that strand of hair to the right getting thicker towards the end. But that's a nitpick, the picture is fine enough.

>>715973425
Thanks for the answer, surprised to see it took this long to get a response, maybe the usual suspects couldn't be bothered to come up with some bullshit

>>715964417
Underrated post

>>715964108 (OP)
>"I think it's both. I think the more you understand what underlies these current tools, the more effective you are at taking advantage of them."
>"But I think we'll be in this funny situation where people who don't know how to program, who use AI to scaffold their programming abilities, will become more effective developers of value than people who've been programming, for you know, a decade."
>"Even if you're just a pure tool user, you're going to find that the games utilizing those tools are very, very high. But as your ability to use those tools improves, the more you understand the underlying methods and mindsets of people developing machine learning systems."
>"I think it's both, and I think they're highly, highly complementary."

>>715970097
No, AI makes slop by default. You need someone clever to make it do cool things. Thirdies and /pol/tards will continue to generate absolute slop.

>>715964108 (OP)
>NOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T USE AUTOMOBILES TO DELIVER GOODS YOU HAVE TO USE A HORSE AND BUGGY THINK OF THE POOR HORSES

>>715964108 (OP)
He's not wrong /v/. You could've been making money hand over fist if you were smart enough to us AI to prompt your own vidya. Pic related is a real success story. 100% prompted with zero real work by the developer and 10,000+ reviews.

https://files.catbox.moe/y3u41d.png

>>715972772
>Tech companies who have been hiring hivemind leftoids en mass ,that did nothing but censor dissent and propagate their filthy ideology like AIDS are now BEING PURGED AS THEY NO LONGER SERVE A PURPUSE AND ARE BING REPLACED BY DUMBASS, SHITSKIN CHEAP HUMANCATTLE TO DO THEIR LABOR UNTIL THEY CAN TOO BE REPLACED BY AI IN A COUPLE YEARS.
how is this a bad thing again? hope most of these tech retards livestream their suicide, so the rest of the hivemind can follow them to hell

>>715973935
>10,000+ reviews.
isn't this a free game

>>715964108 (OP)
This is encouraging the use of AI to circumvent the shit no one likes to do though. "Using AI to become more effective at game dev" is not the same as "Use AI to make games" but that nuance is lost on anyone who simply sees "AI" immediately associates it with the fact that people use it to generate slop art and music, and thus they completely ignore any other function of AI.

>>715973971
>HR blue hairs stay employed
lel

>>715964332
Because people see AI and assume generative AI and they think that's all AI is or ever will be. To be completely blunt, it's the current generation equivalent to old people fearing nuclear energy. They know for a fact it was used for one bad thing and they don't care to understand its potential beyond that.

>>715964108 (OP)
Literally 9/10 programmers at the company I work at already use AI for programming.

>>715965221
Yeah whatever, people said this shit about the internet, computers, television, radio, cars, etc. People who fear technological progress will always exist, but tech will progress all the same.

>>715974193
Yeah, so. You think he's not making money off microtransactions?

>>715973517
> Why do leftists hate AI so much?
They have common sense to see that the new batch of AI tools will replace jobs that people have always wanted to do, rather than things that nobody has ever wanted to do.

>>715964108 (OP)
Cars are bad because they'll put the entire horse industry out of business.

>>715974653
Nta, but not really, why should i hire you when AI can do almost anything at this point? What jobs does it create?

>>715974443
>HR blue hairs stay employed
Nope, it's one of the first things they have been cutting, like troon does with his penis

>>715974758
You know how many jobs came to be thanks to cars, from mechanics to the Pedro who brings you McDonalds thanks through uber eats, can you say the same aabout AI?

>>715974729
This is the same argument people made against computers and machines.

>>715974934
Books used to be hand penned by highly trained monks until the printing press came along and removed all the soul out of the process.

>>715975146
Why are you ignoring the questiom? What jobs will AI create?

>>715964108 (OP)
people like Gabe understand that AI is just a tool, nothing more. you can get great results if ur not lazy with the use of AI, and actually modify it's input / output by hand. twitter artists just refuse to accept that AI is here to stay

>>715975193
Anti-AI activist

>>715975289
Is Gaben talking about AI art?

>>715975193
A better question is why AI niggers themselves think they're immune from the cull
>muh ubi
lmao

>>715974768
>What jobs does it create?
This isn't really a gotcha at all. Replacing low skill work isn't a bad thing in the long run, but even corporations acknowledge that AI can't just do everything without being babysat, which is why AI existing is just creating the job of making sure the AI is doing what it's supposed to do. Even those fucking McDonald's locations that are trying to AI their drive-thrus can't commit to it because people can just pull up with some dumbass order to fuck with the AI and then an actual person will take the order instead. AI isn't nearly as competent as you think it is right now. It'll get there someday though, and people should probably get ready for that. Especially white collar workers.

>>715975317
What's the purpose of playing dumb? Just answer the question lol

>>715975390
>but even corporations acknowledge that AI can't just do everything without being babysat
Of course not, that's what h-1b is for

>>715975325
>Is Gaben talking about AI art?
no, he talks about general application of AI to game dev, which could refer to art. im just mentioned artists since they seem to be the most butthurt group that lobbies against AI

I am OK with AI so long as the government gives me a monthly stipend that is enough to live on, complete with rent. If they don't I will do nothing. But it really makes you think how exposed and vulnerable the power grid actually is, if you think about it.

>>715975390
>This isn't really a gotcha at all.
Why not?

>>715974676
not really
but feel free to provide proof of the fat stavks he's making

>>715975556
Lol, lmao, this nigga still believes that the government cares about him, anon they realized they have the tools to make 90% of the population useless, why should they keep you around?

Indian thread

>>715968447
>"study"
>>meanwhile in reality
lol

his literally killing artists

>>715968447
>Study reveals that shotting cancerous cells with a glock killed 99.9% of them at point blank!
guess we should start shooting people who have cancer

>>715976706
Unironically yes

The biggest issue with mainstream image, text, voice and video generators is the copyright and trademark law. All of these things are made up of whatever has been vacuumed up from the internet and any database the creators have access to meaning theres Disney movie but also things like peoples medical records and cheese pizza in the mix. This WILL be challenged in the future and right now we are in the smash and grab phase where every corporate entity and individual is trying to rape every medium for what its worth since doing it this way isnt as illegal as it will be in the future.

>>715977118
>The biggest issue with mainstream image, text, voice and video generators is the copyright and trademark law.
Mexico is already tackling this believe it or not, and have settled on the idea that content that is 100% ai generated will be considered public domaim, BUT if it they can prove it only helped and there's considerable human input then it is protected by copyright, then again i don't know how much "human input" is considered in the first place.

>ai is loved by successfull high iq individuals
bros… I thought only room temp retards use ai

>>715977661
High IQ individuals who know that AI could do the mundane shit while devs focus on the real shit, not Rajesh who's making a hentai slide puzzle

>>715977661
>artlet compsci boomers who haven't made a game in decades and supported other retarded tech fads like nfts love AI
wow...

how can i have sex with ai? do i need to become the ghost in the shell?

>>715977889
>how can i have sex with ai?
buy a handy

>actually earnestly study javascript & jquery to make petty userscripts 10 years ago
>don't wanna make this a big thing, just want shit to work right
>today AI can gen the exact same scripts in an instant
>most of them don't even fucking work
>requires the knowledge of said study 10 years ago to fix

AI generation is for retards. you will never have AI supporting the right crowd, it will always be scammers and retards.

AI will never create something like rollercoaster tycoon 1 or 2. 2 would be fundamentally and completely different from 1. it will never be used to create the basis of a foundation that 2 could exist. the creators would be too retarded to understand what they're doing and won't even have a single shred of care for what they're making.

>>715976226
Indian internet

>>715974653
All of those things created new jobs. AI does not. "Checking the intern's work" has always been a job, but the intern used to be a human. We're not far off from bots that can get a coffee for you, so the intern won't even have THAT to fall back on anymore.
The industrialized world is currently in a crisis of capability, and "making things even easier" as AI does will only accentuate that.

>>715975390
>Replacing low skill work isn't a bad thing in the long run
It's fine IF you have a planned new task for all those idle hands. If not, they quickly grab bricks and pitchforks. We've seen it dozens of time throughout history.
>creating the job of making sure the AI is doing what it's supposed to do
As I just said, "babysitting the intern" is not a new job, and you can't trust the intern to DO that babysitting. The human intern is now out of work and cannot get mentored. (The mentor for the intern would be an unsupervised AI, in case you are wondering - they ask Grok how to do [task].)
>AI isn't nearly as competent as you think it is right now.
I hate AI right now but not because it's competent right now. I hate it because I know it will only get more competent, and I don't trust humanity to be ready for that rise in ability.
>people should probably get ready for that.
I agree, but they're not doing it because they're already stupid. AI will make them MORE stupid, and LESS capable of dealing with the consequences of their stupidity.

>>715964332
>>715966931
>>715975497
He’s only saying this because people still require to pay the $100 Steam upload fee. The faster someone makes “games” the faster the money.

>>715975289
The issue is that it's NOT "just" a tool. it's a tool, right now, in its infancy of the moment, but it's growing way, way too fast to stay limited in that way for long.
AI outsourcing "pencil on paper" is one thing. AI outsourcing "thinking" is another thing entirely, and it's well on its way to that.

>>715964108 (OP)
>he fell for the AI meme
ohonononon

>>715964108 (OP)
wheres his next game then

>>715979006
if you think the fees earn them any significant revenue then you are delusional, they are there to filter ultra low-effort games, still too low if you ask me, i would have made it $1000 if you don't want to go through some vetting process and $250 for people who are willing to share personal information and have proven record.

>>715975556
AI does work in a communist utopia where everything is created for free and given out for free. You are correct in this regard. In the world of Star Trek, AI doing all the mundane boring work of the world works. The issue is that we're not there yet.

>>715964332
Because some worried about being needed in the industry instead of worrying about being appreciated. Turns out most visual artists are insufferable to work with and now game devs don't need them.

>>715978087
AI is great for writing boiler-plate code and help you find errors if you're having a difficult time, it has saved me hours of debugging and writing boiler-plate shit so far. You shouldn't use AI to write stuff you DON'T know about, only to save time doing stuff you can already so you can guarantee isn't retarded vibe coded slop;

>>715978087
>will never
>will never
I am anti-AI and I hate AI but you're completely wrong to think in terms of "AI will never." AI can't right now, correct. Ai could very well be able to tomorrow, or next month.
AI "could never" make a video of Will Smith eating pasta but it sure as hell can now.

Pornographic enthusiasts have given it millions or billions of hours of training data. It couldn't do hands before, but it can now.

>Fat fuck who has a monopoly that is subservient to a bunch of Karens and CC companies now is shilling for AI
This is your hero?

>>715964108 (OP)
he needs another yacht, anon. get to work

Reminder that AI is shilled by billionaires as "the next big tech breakthrough for our species" when it actuality it's just a glorified auto-correct with no "intelligence" to speak of and is being used as a cost-cutting/saving measure to increase the profits for the rich and wealthy. Billionaires need to have all of their assets seized and funneled into upgrading American infrastructure; we are literally a third-world country compared to China.

Your net-worth does not need to exceed 2 million.

>>715964108 (OP)
Why does he look so deflated?

"AI" as we know it right now can't do anything slightly advanced with any competence whatsoever. I asked it to find what was wrong in some openGL code i was writing for study and it couldn't even correctly identify what it was supposed to do. The issue was a mere missing comma in the end and it couldn't find it. If it's gonna "replace" anyone, it's going to be only the stupid and mediocre whose capabilities would never reach any height of potential a human could have anyway. Sub-90's, to be more exact. Good riddance. Talented and skilled artists, musicians, programmers etc. will not be matched by this any time soon.

>>715964332
They're slop producers. AI produces slop so it directly threatens their jobs.

Steamtards will agree with everything Gaben says

>>715964332
why do retards love ai so much i dont understand

>>715964108 (OP)
We need a Butlerian Jihad.

Respond THOU SHALT NOT MAKE A MACHINE IN THE LIKENESS OF A HUMAN MIND if you agree.

>>715964264
He's the enemy of pc gamers, so no. He can go fuck a cow.

>>715966931
i do a lot of low level programming, and the level of detail you need to make robust, fault tolerant, reliable, efficient, maintainable, and extensible systems is to think reeeeeally fucking hard about it and be reeeeeally fucking careful in what order you choose to do things. i have zero trust LLMs or generative ai can turn a loose description of desired behavior in lots of cases into a solution, let alone a high quality solution.
and even if it did, until we figure out how creative people are going to survive an ai economy that came into existence off of their work with no kickbacks, i value people doing creative work over a machine.
i like computer graphics and the technical aspects behind games, and recognize that a huge part of doing 3d graphics and games is making programs to generate data. but there's a huge difference in making mountains using a noise map and training a model on people's art of mountains to generate mountains in their style. the latter is waaay too far, and i'll take my money elsewhere, even if plebs still lap up that slop. i refuse this shit every step beyond simple laughs on a chinese imageboard

the anti-AI seething is really funny to me
it's literally a handicap for tech-retarded normalfaggots with ideas and drive
we are REALLY early in AI integration era, IT companies just now figuring out that models need actual context to operate effectively and it already can do quite complicated shit
only the really useless and stupid people with no ideas or aspirations hate AI
will there be a mass reduction in jobs soon? sure. But that's not an AI problem, it's a society problem

>>715964332
>why do retards
This is the cause and explanation

>>715964108 (OP)
ut oh, another steamie found out that gabe isn't his fwend!

>>715964332
The whole AI discussion is a mess.

Personally when it comes to arts, I don't see the appeal of it and most things just look plastic, but I don't doubt there will come a time when it will become a tool used in the industry. As it stands right now, AI is being used by mediocre wannabe artists and/or normies that have the mentality of pretty=good and the ones who could do something good with it are stuck with the mentality that AI is Satan incarnate.

>>715980974
>only the really useless and stupid people with no ideas or aspirations love* AI
ftfy buddy

>>715981241
>ftfy buddy
unemployed hands typed this post

>>715964332
It's being pushed hard by both CEOs that see humans as a cost and employing less humans as a good thing because they can pocket the money saved and make shareholders really happy, and by a bunch of slop makers that think AI will make them rich/famous/creative/whatever and just use it indiscriminately to flood everything with low quality AI content

The former are inhuman and just want to hoard more money and whatever problem arises is not their problem, but the next quarter's problem. The latter are just thin skinned faggots that flood every single site with AI garbage and expect for people to like it and pay for it, and when they don't, they lash out and start calling everyone "luddites" and similar insults. Both are cancer

>>715964264
>offers a 0% cut on game sales on the first $1 million in sales, then a 12% cut after that to pass savings onto gamers
>steamies throw a shit fit because all of their old games they don't play anymore are on steam and reject the savings, opt instead to continue paying a record-breaking, ball-busting 30% tax on digital goods that fund the buying of yachts for the fat fuck who hasn't made a real game in 20 years

We don't deserve Tim. We're a bunch of emotional apes who will destroy ourselves from purely irrational, woman-like behavior.

>>715980974
“Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them.”
― Frank Herbert, Dune

people that adopt generative ai at first may be effective because they understand their problem well enough to critically evaluate the output of an ai.
however, fast forward, people aren't going to be learning those basic skills, and become dumber overall

it's like the cgi revolution. no one does traditional animation anymore because "it's too expensive" (rolls eyes at cgi slop with 250M$ budgets). but the state of animation is at a nadir, no one can animate for shit anymore, and it's because these amazing tools these amazing and intelligent artists sweat blood to develop to solve the problems they were inventing for themselves are bequeathed to people that never went through the training and experiences necessary to warrant those tools in the first place.

>>715969123
>gutted Valve in the first place
"Gutted"? How do you mean?

>>715964332
It's an easy shortcut that makes any retard capable of creating slop that is purely pushed by the executive class to replace skilled workers with undereducated jeets who will produce subpar output.

Hand made > AI Slop every time. Even bad hand made stuff can be said to be a product of a person trying to learn.

>>715980974
because
>>715981863
This
Retard compare it to using a calculator from a slide-rule but a calculator still requires you to understand a problem enough to input the values and evaluate an output. An AI can give shoddy output and chances are: very few of the engineers who are trained on it will ever know the output well enough to tell when it's bullshitting them.

I don't get why people think giving a computer the ability to lie to you will somehow increase productivity instead of exponentially increase tech-debt. Which is what we're seeing now at every single company that has implemented AI on a large scale: Someone has to eventually fix the AI and its hallucinations and it's not the vibe coders.

>>715982432
Next quarter's problem
And if you disagree you are a luddite

The moment AI porn could get me hard I knew it was over and AI won.

>>715981757
>pass savings onto gamers
Yeah no, after decades the number of devs and publishers who passed on the savings is a rarity. They just keep the extra cash.
>continue paying a record-breaking, ball-busting 30% tax
Since when has it been record breaking or ball busting? Consoles take the same and took even more in the past.

>>715964108 (OP)
AI leads to slop due to low barrier to entry but it will be useful, trying to put the genie back in the bottle will not work. The actual threat is that it will be heavily monopolized through regulatory capture. You won't be able to compete without using the tools of a select few approved companies especially after boogeyman legislation.

>>715964332
The leftist hivemind said its bad so its bad. Not a cult by the way, everyone else is in a cult but them.

>>715982709
>Yeah no, after decades the number of devs and publishers who passed on the savings is a rarity. They just keep the extra cash.
So it's a retarded steamie problem after all. When you retards keep paying $80 + $80 dlc, no company will ever pass the savings down.

>>715981863
amazing insights from the shroom book quote posting pedo
>no one can animate for shit anymore
no one can sew clothes or crank the car's engine by hand either
should old hand-made shit be revered? sure. Should it be used for doomer simping? no and fuck off
>>715982432
>omg AI is unreliable
>omg everyone is literally going to replace all decision makers with retards with AI
cope
will that happen and have a limited impact in some isolated cases? sure
what AI is actually going to do is elevate the people that want to solve problems, because it can explain shit to you with references, so actually smart and driven people will have even more opportunity to rise from poor
>I don't get
that's cause your only interaction with writing useful code or being useful IRL is playing video games

>>715982993
>righties hate technology because it cheapens individualism and the virtues of hard work
>except when it owns the libs
?

>>715964332
People don't necessarily hate AI itself — they hate how it’s developed, used, or imposed without accountability or empathy. At its core, it's a reaction to rapid change, power imbalance, and fear of the unknown.

>t. chatgpt

>>715983328
>steamie problem
It's a majority problem, not just Steam but people regardless of system will just throw money at shit even if they hardly play it, just look at any AAA shit that sell like crazy.
There just aren't many good reasons to lower the price even if you get more of each sale.

>>715983686
Reminds me of the old burger wars, where A&W sold a 1/3 lb burger and McDonald's sold a 1/4 lb burger. People preferred the taste of A&W's burger but were upset that they were getting less meat. McDonald's obviously won and went on to become a massive chain.

People are fucking retarded. Really makes you question capitalism and even democracy.

yeah worked out really well

>>715983454
Do lefties really believe this? Are they truly that stuck in the past? Thank you for making me aware of this sad fact anon.

>cool ai tools get invented
>brown pajeets get their shit stained hands on it and ruin it for everyone

>>715964264
>>715981757
Timmy lost.

>>715984443
And so did the average consumer. They will happily continue to pay more. You got everything you voted for.

>>715983398
people are terrible judges of truth.
there is no algorithm for truth.
and generative ai is good at making things seem plausibly true under cursory scrutiny and to the layman's eye, with no actual factual basis
seems like a perfect combination for breeding and conning retards

people still crank engines to this day, but with small engines instead of cars
people sew to this day, both needlework and seams
the only traditional animation being done is on a post-it pad or on a computer

>>715983535
they hate how machine learning algos are trained on them by exploitative data mining and then then displaced by said algos which produce inferior but cheaper products (once again, based on their work). "inferior" is not a value judgement or subjective term; it is critical to exclude generated data from training data because it is a known source for bad models and drift.

>>715964332
Same reason why game corpos get made about piracy
>wtf why did you generate art, that's a potential commission I could have gotten from you! YOU'RE LITERALLY STEALING MY LIVELIHOOD! DO YOU WANT ME TO STARVE!?

>>715984670
And even if Tim won 99% of games would be have lower prices.

>>715984697
>people are terrible judges of truth.
maybe retards like you, yes
>seems like a perfect combination for breeding and conning retards
this is again why retards like you who can be easily influenced by just a man speaking with confidence are not (generally) in power in first world countries
the tard lawyers that tried to write legal documents with AI got deleted, any future kind of inappropriate and unmonitored AI use is going to be easily detectable and sanctionable
>people still crank engines to this day
>people sew to this day
that is exactly why it is retarded to whine about "no one can animate anymore". If anyone actually needs the skill at any point they can become proficient in it

>>715964264
I'd use his store if it worked on Linux

>>715985318
https://heroicgameslauncher.com/

>>715964108 (OP)
He's right, and yes, if whoever's using it doesn't know what they're doing, it'll be shit. However, for the ones that do, it's great for productivity.

>>715965007
At times, but it's improving by leaps and bounds every day. It's a mix of >>715965046 and retards trying to create an entire, complete project with one prompt, the project being underwhelming, then saying "see its shit!".

>>715966931
>>715980894
Nobody worth listening to is trying to exclusively use LLMs for low level/embedded code for live products.

>creatives
I don't really care whether artists make money or not. I don't think ai will ever replace human expression, and the "creatives" making a reliable income are "expressing" themselves or their manager or whatever, solely for profit, which dilutes the authenticity and sincerity of their work.

>>715973971
>>715974443
>>715974802
HR, redundant office admins and managers are unironically the easiest to replace with AI.

>>715985802
I know, I use it but would like official support. Not gonna buy games from someone that doesnt give a f about my OS

>>715981863
>these amazing tools these amazing and intelligent artists sweat blood to develop to solve the problems they were inventing for themselves are bequeathed to people that never went through the training and experiences necessary to warrant those tools in the first place.
This, right here, is the core issue. Any tool that a genius creates to save time is a wonderful time saver for the genius, but the people who follow, who don't have to struggle with the base problem as the genius did, will never LEARN the situation/hardship that necessitated the tool in the first place.

>>715981863
>>715987463
Even as an early adopter and "genius" working in research, I don't see this as a problem. You have several generations of people who can't figure out how to sleep properly, you have nu-zoomers and gen a's who cannot even use google to learn basic shit. First class I TA'd in, I had people who could not find the tab key and could not understand why you'd use it anyway. These problems were going to get worse anyway, this just accelerates it.

When I'm not working, I just use it to explore ideas and take anything it says with a grain of salt, just like anything some retard says on the internet. You do not know me, I do not know you - anything someone tells you or tries to convince you of on the internet should be followed by an enormous asterisk, reminding you that this person cannot possibly understand your life situation, culture, ideals, or otherwise.

>>715988202
>this just accelerates it.
I mean, a housefire is bad but a housefire that you pour kerosine on is generally considered worse.

AI makes community college art kids piss and shit, you love to see it

>>715980007
he's run out of steam

>>715967313
>competency crisis
Just use AI to patch it up bro, it's the future for every field.

>>715964332
ai literally competes with human settlements for drinkable water. fuck off nestle

>>715964264
>>715964361
>Little timmy

>>715988383
Think of it this way, a lot of the jobs with stupid barriers to entry are bullshit that don't really require much prior knowledge to perform decently in. I know a dentist who reads shota/milf doujin regularly, works with kids daily. I've met plenty of professors, public school teachers and admins, shit like therapists. Some of them are extremely knowledgeable and skilled, most of them are volatile people who use their job title as some sort of shield for their shitty behavior.

The reason behind accelerating is that these people will never learn these skills regardless of the incentive, and the unfortunate assholes who rely on them will be negatively affected as a result. Flash forward 5, 10, 20 years, you or a loved one is in the hospital for something. You'll see what I mean.

>>715967313
The artificial roadblocks and barriers we have now do the opposite. The "gatekeeping" before barely existed, if you weren't a fucking retard or a stick in the mud there was still a way to get your foot in the door. Now you need the right degree, connections, unrealistic levels of experience in areas that don't make sense for the role, and you need to help the HR roasties relive their high school mean girl days all over again, with a smile on your face.

The roadblocks now more than ever filter out actual skill and talent. For the ones who do get in, they're bogged down by meetings, managers, red tape, and focus groups.

>>715964332
Not against innovations but really hate AI now because of techbros bullshit and corporations being deranged retards who imagine they can replace everyone with computers while keeping the administration apparatus inflating.
It doesn't help that HR departments are scum of earth, at least half of job ads you see are fake, and good job positions are being gatekept to those of certain tribe or for DEI hires, or worse- job being absolute bullshit. Like, seriously, who the fuck thinks that applying to apply for junior position you need 2 years of experience? Who even writes bullshit like that? Or advanced positions but for shit pay? Who do you think is going to work for peanuts? All those with experience will rather apply somewhere else or simply create their own business.

>>715964332
On the one hand, it's a tool that can be applied to do heavy lifting and be delegated to a handful of editors and producers, which should reduce a lot of redundant and repetitious procedures. On the other hand, 99% of the population has access to it and thinks that the entire process should be done by it, and then releases work non-stop to hosting sites, making it impossible to find anything worth looking at. People think that for some reason, that I want to see 9,000 pictures of Konata's butthole in the same art style when I can just do it myself. You can guess which process that corporate executives are choosing.

>>715985265
>any future kind of inappropriate and unmonitored AI use is going to be easily detectable
by what? another ai? do you not see the issue with this?

>>715975193
the steam engine was sent BY THE DEVIL. All of the hard working manual farm laborer jobs are now gone forever...

>>715989730
>2 years of experience for a junior position
Try leafland, anon. Anything relatively professional pays less, is more demanding, and won't last as long. You'll have busted your ass for years, only to get a seemingly sweet offer, moving across the country, spending your savings on an apartment lease, only to get canned shortly after.

HR and other office bullshit jobs have had the most layoffs so far and they'll continue to.

>>715989137
If you're coming from the perspective that it SHOULD all burn and the faster the better then I can somewhat get behind that, but my issue is that AI is a dishonest way to do it. I'd prefer the honest methods of societal breakdown, like public mass orgies and [fedposting goes here].
Ironically, AI will be used to track down the people who want honest destruction like that, and put them in cages to await the slowly creeping end.

>>715964332
It is quite literally soulless and will be replacing most good things, it is utterly amazing to me that such a massive amount of complete fucking retards got psyopped into dicksucking it just because other retards on their political side shilled it and they are incapable of individual thought. The number of people ITT who claim to hate slop games and media but openly deride anybody who hates AI is peak /pol/brain retardation. Hating soulless AI garbage should never have been a political issue in any way, same exact thing as with censorship and the people who absolutely love it when it goes against people they don't like.

>>715990110
by humans, retard

>>715990215
I'm already seeing that over here in Europe. HRs are being laid off, but they'll find something else to ruin or rise in corporate ladder and often become managers. As for jobs, it's more of the same. Companies think they can get specialists to work for pathetic wages, while demanding holy grail.

>>715990210
not him but while I kind of get what you're saying in a argument about shunning any technical progress, that literally did happen to a massive extent BUT the additional productivity of steam engines both increased the amount of food available and made manufacturing plants far far more profitable and productive because of electrification.

I'm not really sure what type of side effects LLMs and generative AI will have, but they're not likely to just shift white collar work somewhere else like steam engines did.

>>715970443

>>715964332
>biggest proponents are jews and jeets
>only tangible effect it's had in my life is making the internet even worse
What kind of retard wouldn't hate this crap?

>>715964332
I hate AI because the last thing I want is more of the same prompts and responses repeated over and over again with only slight deviation for the rest of human civilization. AI can increase productivity, sure, but it does so at the cost of creativity and the human spirit.

Gabe is a fucking liar by claiming he goes scuba diving every day when he is clearly too fat to have such a hobby.

>>715973540
It sounded rhetorical. He basically just agreed with you and explained basic economic hierarchy.

>>715971404
you cropped out the reply which was arguably the best part

>>715964108 (OP)
[citation needed]

>>715971840
tell him that the AI produced an incoherent overbloated mess and if you're going to be adding functionality you're going to remake the app from the ground up.

>>715964332
>this many NGOs on discord
new record?

>>715990308
No, I don't think AI is what will cause some sort of collapse. That's not what I mean - different kind of a c c e l e r a t i o n. I mean the current and future generations will quite literally be unable to perform in roles that are critical to human safety and otherwise, so nipping the issue in the bud and accepting AI is preferable to a slow decay where we end up at the whim of some idealistic retard 18 year old who is only capable of using whatever follows tiktok, with no concept of reality or how the world works.

That would be a much slower, more painful decline. That's our future regardless of AI, but especially without it.

>>715990665
Nobody wants HR. Corporations adopted it because it helped shield them from lawsuits and other regulatory shit. A lot of SMEs outsource it now, there's usually one or two firms doing HR and other admin shit for businesses that don't want the burden of hiring an entire department of busybody women.

AI has notable limits now, but again, management and HR is trivially replaced by LLMs.

>>715964108 (OP)
hell yeah I speak to GabeN all the time, I like especially how he gives me all his money every month and tells me I'm the future of gaming despite being a lazy sack of shit that only asks for him to order me some prostitutes. what ? you need proof ? trust me brah

>tfw company wants me to use AI daily even though I have days when I'm not even working with my computer
Corpos are insane.

>>715970110
No, because humans are dumb as shit and associate cost with quality.

>>715971651
We’re talking about video games here, brother. I get what direction you’re taking this, but do you really care if the game you’re playing supplemented some code with AI code in game? Honestly, this AI hysteria shit is entirely pushed by devs who see the writing on the wall. It’s going to extend to filmmaking in a decade or less, and all these “prestige” faggots will have left is: “I used to do that by hand :)”

Look how much AI has progressed since its public releases. It’s been maybe 4–5 years, starting from absolute shit, and you have fags STILL assuming it’ll be shit in another decade.
Here’s a reality check for ALL of you faggots.

Making video games and art is PLAYING for humans. You guys are so butt-hurt that you won’t be the key to delivering these things to people anymore. That’s right, bitch if I want to play a platformer that’s of my own imagination, I can spawn something from the AI ether and enjoy or tweak it until I’m no longer satisfied. Yes, you spending 5,000 hours mastering this was a waste of time. It was always a waste of time. Your dad told you it was a waste of time. And now you’ll be reminded once again: this was a waste of your time.

>PAY THEM PAY THEM FUCKING PAY THEM
nah fuck off, AI is great and you'll never be a woman

>>715992521
what I don't understand is that yes, people are fallible and make mistakes too but why would you want HR or management to be replaced by AI? You would trust software to make decisions that directly impact your well being? HR and management are both full of their own culture and biases, but they're still comprised of individuals with plenty of variation. A model is essentially a force multiplier for a single chosen bias. That sounds like a bad fucking idea to me

AI will never take over anything, and when that bubble bursts, its gonna make the dotcom shit from 2k look like a pleasant day given the fucking TRILLIONS dumped into AI trash.

>>715964264
>manages to be even worse than the fat kike
never
captcha Jew KYS W

>>715993873
This niggah just woke up thinking he’s in 2020

>>715965143
These are not the same two people.

>>715964108 (OP)
I'll be real here, the more i hear and learn about AI, the more i am convinced it's mostly just a psyop to convince people they're worth less than they are. Workers who feel like they're replacable will work for cheaper and put up with more bullshit, while in reality AI hasn't proven to actually reasonably replace most jobs.
Generative AI has shown to have some value and i believe that it is actually putting jobs at risk to an extent for art, voice acting and such, but LLMs are nothing but ego stroking machines that make execs think they just captured divinity in circuits

>>715993968
the fact that management is full of people who LOVE to be surrounded by yes men means that AI is lightning in a bottle for the firms making it. It allows them to feel like they're exerting more control over the company while the AI sucks them off at the same time. It's a disaster waiting to happen. It's winning their minds because it kisses so much ass. It'll take some massive managerial fuckups for this to recede at all and it still probably won't. The amount of people who are "forming relationships" with their LLMS is shocking.

People are suggestible and the narcissists in management are predictably vulnerable to flattery. It's going to get a lot worse

>>715964264
How are your NFT games going, Timmy?

>>715965143
The fuck do you think this picture is supposed to show?

>>715968724
He's pretty good at seeing where things are going. Source: Made steam long before anybody else gave a fuck about digital distribution.

>>715977118
Laws can be changed if that turns out to be an issue - which would surprise me, because the stuff an AI outputs is clearly transformative.
Or you could get your copyright dream fulfilled, so that only big companies who own millions of stock images can train AIs. Won't really slow down AI, but make the rich richer.

>>715991071
He lost a lot of weight.

Nobody cares if educated white software engineers use LLM's when programming. What people can't stand is mass produced AI generated jeetslop.

>>715972603
>>715973057
>>715972670
If it's so good then go ahead and post a good one.

>>715995468

ENOUGH OF THIS BARGAINING!
There is no such thing as a good ai usage. ALL ai slop is INHUMAN gargabe.
Humans have no use for inferior trash generated by brainless silicons.
Ignorant Capitalism worshipping pencil neck tech bros can choke on my big human cock.

>>715964108 (OP)
not a gabe dickrider but what did he say thats wrong lmao he literally just said AI will help with coding and programming. seethe harder.

>>715964108 (OP)
It is true, but at the same time it devalues the work since you don't know if they really used their own creativity and effort instead of ai. AI use like this will be inevitable, and there will only increase grifters pretending not to use ai for their games when the non-ai stuff value will increase. We are entering an awful stretch of history...

>>715985961
>but it's improving by leaps and bounds every day.
AI is not only starting to stagnate, its actually getting worse because they're running out of new proper data so its starting to be learned on ai outputs which causes them to completely shit themselves.

>>715964332
short answer: they're afraid of falling behind for not using AI so they want to punish everyone else

>>715969609
To be honest, I actually use AI for my English skills. My English is so horrible, but the fact people relied on AI is pretty terrible, and it shouldn't be the norm.

>>715994617
I don't know what rich idiot would be dumb enough to own it?

>>715964332
>Youtube is flooded with nonsense AI regurgitation from content farms
>Amazon is flooded with AI regurgitations that just take an existing book and rewrite it with GPT
>All image aggregator sites are flooded with garbage images from third worlders shilling their AI patreons
>Social media is nothing but AI content farms trying to trick boomers and bots into interacting for ad revenue
>AI scams left and right from thirdies trying to scam elderly people
>Pushed everything and everywhere because trillions went into developing and the ruling class needs a proof that their investment is eventually going to turn a profit
>No end in sight
I feel you are the one that has to give me an argument to like AI instead. The word "hatred" falls short for what I feel about AI

>>715964332
Because they think AI is the same sloppa porn they feast on, when it'll only invariably grow more sophisticated and powerful.

But I thought king gaben was le based /v/. What happened? Why are you guys turning on him now after all of this worship for the past 25 years?

>>715964332
All AI is good for is unleashing an unprecedented amount of fraud.