Thread 715980969

Is this worth it or is it literally just a graphical overhaul and I can just upgrade the graphics of regular Oblivion with a mod?

It's mostly a graphical overhaul with some gameplay system updates.
You won't be able to mod the original Oblivion as extensively as the remaster because they grafted an entirely separate engine onto it.
There are pros and cons because of that, if you like modding the game it's probably better to play the original with mods because the dual engine makes the new game a pain in the ass to modify.

>>715980969 (OP)
yes
yes
yes

>>715980969 (OP)
Its fine but it has gross unreal engine filters that make the whole game look grey, and the foliage is actually less dense than the original.

>>715981360
I really really really don't like the way all the faces look

>>715980969 (OP)
Wait… there is an official remaster of oblivion? When did this come out?

>>715981562
three months ago, anon

>>715981436
As opposed to the potato faces we've grown to love?

>>715981595
I see that now… I completely missed it somehow

>>715981648
The potato faces had sovl but these new ones are just potato faces with grotesque details. I don't care for them.

>>715981802
Not missing much, it's meh., I thought we'd all eventually stop sucking UE5's dick but it seems were still doing it.

I enjoyed it and don't regret buying it but as a real bethesda game with modding potential it's DOA because of the Unreal shit, they'll inevitably release some creation club plug-in bullshit but that's going to be it. I bought it because I really wanted to see Oblivion with modern graphics, if you don't give a shit about that then it's not necessary.

Are there any major changes or is it just the visuals?

>>715982017
>>715981151
What do you guys mean? I've never modded anything so you'll have to dumb it down, but does the engine NOT allow for modding without workarounds or something?

>>715982275
the original engine is there for game logic, but it's been modded to load the visual assets through Unreal Engine 5, so if your mod adds any new assets, it won't be compatible.

I bought it so that I can play it with mods in a couple of years

>>715982275
Bethesda open world slop like fallout and elder scrolls use Gamebryo/Creation engine that's uniquely suited for packing russian-made porn mods onto it. Unreal is not that way and is not modding friendly, it doesn't accept random scripts being shoved into it like Gamebryo/creation. In order to make the remaster as pretty as it is, they used Unreal and transplanted Oblivion into it with some real frankenstein magic. But as a result, none of the thousands of Oblivion mods can be used for it, and making new mods or converting mods is also a huge pain if not impossible.

>>715982275
You have to put more effort in, essentially. So modders who aren't familiar with Unreal are fucked.

>>715980969 (OP)
It can look good, but in general it's more generic and less stylized looking than the original.

Whole point of Oblivion (in 2025) is to be able to mod it. You cannot do that, therefore there is no reason at all to play this over the original.

>>715982461
if you're waiting a couple of years to play it you could have held off for a sale

>>715980969 (OP)
If you have anything under a 9070 XT/5070 ti don't even bother

>>715983757
RTX 4060 good enough or forget it?

>>715980969 (OP)
Not worth it imo.
You absolutely need modding just to make it playable which is not acceptable to be fair.
I had to install 100+ mods for this. I didn't even do that for Skyrim back in the day.
For Skyrim I remember having like 20 mods tops. And that was after I already had finished it at least once and had several hundreds of hours in it. This time I began modding it after 2 hours.
If you install 100+ mods for Skyrim you get a totally different game. With Reblivion you get a barely playable one. It's ridiculous.

>>715983757
works on my 2070S

>>715984068
Giga forget it, that shit is weaker than a 3060ti

>>715984197
Yeah, at 720p

>>715981648
I'd rather low detail simple and clean potatoes then ultra HD 4k rotting moldy grotesque potatoes.

>>715982158
>leveling system rework
>hit reactions on enemies
>particle effects for combat
>sprint button
>harvestables disappear when harvested
>unmarked cave dungeon can now be explored legitimately
>new voice actors for non-human races, all original voice acting still in the game
>bunch of random bug fixes

>>715984303
nah, 1080p 60fps. I just had to mess with the lumen config and disable framegen.

>>715984595
>1080p 60fps
...everything on LOW

>>715984539
>bunch of random bug fixes
And 100,000 new ones

>>715984068
it works on my laptop

>>715984773
it just doesn't feel like oblivion with those realistic graphics
the grass should be lime green

>>715984773
Also I'm wondering if I should update, I'm still playing the base version.

>>715984706
just shadows iirc

>>715984923
like this?

>>715984945
>upgrade
lmao the deluxe edition is two quests with a new armor set associated with each of them, don't waste your money

>>715984923
>It's just not oblivion without looking like shit
Lol bro..

it runs like shit and the file size is obscene
playing it also reminded me why i've always preferred skyrim over oblivion

>>715985040
I'm playing the pirated initial release, there are updates and I can install them just wondering if it'll fuck up more than they will fix knowing Bethesda.

>>715981821
>The potato faces had sovl
They did not. It was the beginning of soulless facegen slop. Just because the game is 20 years old now doesn't suddenly mean it was actually good.

>>715980969 (OP)
It's as good as it was in 2006, maybe even a little better. But unless you're just really into spell crafting and playing a magic caster in general, it doesn't do anything that Skyrim doesn't do way better. Maybe when REBlivion modding is in full swing and we get something like Deadly Reflex or in general a good stealth/melee combat overhaul it might look different but Vanilla vs. Vanilla, Skyrim is just better.

>>715985949
The faces don't look any better mate

>>715980969 (OP)
Not only is it only a graphical overhaul, they actually made movement feel a little worse by adding some momentum. The OG game is still the best one.

>>715985025
That's a pretty red-tinted image.

>>715986181
Skyrim sucks though alchemy is nerfed to hell

>>715986419
He is trolling.

>>715980969 (OP)
It's worth it on Computer, on consol the difficulty sliders are gone and the games fucked at the end.

>>715980969 (OP)
If your system isn't good enough you literally won't be able to play. I have a 3070 with an i9-10900K and have to play on Low with locked 60 fps just for it to function.

>>715980969 (OP)
Original oblivion unironically looks better because of >>715981360
However I really disagree with >>715981436, potao faces sucked

>>715987204
Original with mods is the only way to play, other than vanilla. The remaster is pretty well done, honestly, but that is actually kind of the nail in the coffin for UE5 remakes. If the best one isn't worth playing, then it's kind of over for them.

>>715980969 (OP)
it doesn't look very good considering how poorly it runs, and crashes constnatly

aside from that it is just oblivion which was a 9/10 great game, but I do feel like these devs dropped the ball with this UE5 port

also very funny to me that bethesda severed all relations with jeremy soule but they're still using his masterpiece soundtrack and making money from it

Did they fix the difficulty slider and horrendous outdoor performance?

>>715986479
Nah, he's 100% correct. Skyrim is an objectively better designed game overall with more memorable characters. Every time I play the Remastered, despite it looking way better than Skyrim, I have to keep reminding myself that it's an older game, meaning that the interiors are tiny and constantly cut into chunks, and there aren't any takedown animations, which is disappointing. The only thing Oblivion actually has over Skyrim are some of the core gameplay features, like acrobatics, persuasion, spellcrafting, and some of the general RPG mechanics and systems. Most NPCs have nothing interesting at all to say, and the conversations between them and other characters are incredibly shallow, especially when the vast majority of them involves the exact same voice actor talking to himself.

>>715986479
not my problem albeit
>>715987917
if I can play it with a 4060 laptop you have NO excuse

>>715986419
>smithing weapons and armor
>upgrading weapons and armor
>enchant gear with boosts to smithing
>using potions to boost smithing and enchanting
>upgrade weapons and gear even more
>enchant gear with combat stats boosts
Compared to that Oblivion offers no real progression for melee/archer players at all. You pick up a piece of gear, "repair" it to 125% and that's it. Besides that, combat in Skyrim is also just straight up better. Sure, it's still dogshit but it's better than Oblivion. At least you get shield bash from the start, you have stealth kill animations, melee finishers and kill cams for ranged attacks. I'm not a magic caster player, i don't care about magic - ever. I play either assassins, archers, light armor barbarians or heavy armor knights. In any game. So the magic systems in Skyrim taking a hit is irrelevant to me and Bethesda focusing way more on physical classes was a welcome change. As i said, maybe in the future, when REBlivion gets modded to hell and back it might be good for me.

>>715986479
>can't imagine the possibility of a disagreement

>>715988479
oops meant that for>>715986840

>>715988448
The main story was much better, otherwise I agree.

>>715988501
>>smithing weapons and armor
>>upgrading weapons and armor
>>enchant gear with boosts to smithing
>>using potions to boost smithing and enchanting
>>upgrade weapons and gear even more
>>enchant gear with combat stats boosts
Stopped reading there, what a retarded goyim you are, can't you realize smithing like radiant quests is there to waste your time? Using potions to boost what? What a little nigger you are, you think playing a gacha minigame is fun? literal brain rot, in oblivion you use potions FOR COMBAT and to give you actual unique and useful effects as opposed to skyrim where its designed to waste your time.>>715986419

>>715989114
Oh yeah man, I'm really going to whip out a Light potion in the middle of combat to blind my enemies with a white floating ball.

>>715989257
In Skyrim, Smithing and Alchemy progression requires repetitive, meaningless grinding. You must craft hundreds of iron daggers or health potions just to level up the skills, regardless of utility or variety.
In Oblivion, Alchemy skill increased through actual use, with better rewards for experimenting with different ingredients and effects. You are rewarded for playing the game.

>>715989114
>Stopped reading there, what a retarded goyim you are, can't you realize smithing like radiant quests is there to waste your time?

Skinner box progression systems are in games because they work. Number goes up is fun. You can acknowledge it and enjoy it at the same time. Especially when your power progression is out pacing the enemies toughness. Putting on your archery gear, sneaking up on a dragon at a shrine and hitting him with an arrow that wipes out 80% of its health is fun. Suck my dick.

>>715989520
Just go play genshin impact and grind all you want in artifact mines.

>>715984539
Maybe all of this can be added through mods on the original game too.

>>715982461
Im waiting for skyblivion

>>715980969 (OP)
Expect that even Fallout 3 Remake will use the UE5, so they can keep the game without people complaining if they start to make mods, and cannot update fixing things.

>>715984068
Its crazy that you even have to ask that. Devs need to figure out how to optimizer their shit

>>715989421
>Repetitive and meaningless grind
Yes, because leveling Light/Heavy Armor in Oblivion by letting some rats attack you for 5 hours is totally not a meaningless grind. In Oblivion, I've quite literally been encountering enemies in full Glass/Daedric armor very early in the game, which means I already have my endgame armor set, thus there's no point in searching for shit outside of enchanted gear past that point. Smithing a thousand Iron Daggers and getting Smithing to 100 right as you enter Riverwood gives you a ton of free levels to work with right at the start of the game. It's so fucking easy any retard (except you I guess because you're just that fucking stupid) can do it. And just so you know, Alchemy is the exact same type of grind, and the vast majority of the time everything is so fucking worthless that it's just shop fodder.

>>715989898
Sure, you can let rats smack you in a basement for 5 hours to level Heavy Armor. But DAGA SHIKASHI that’s not required to progress or be effective.
Oblivion’s systems let you level through actual gameplay NIGGER GAME PLAY taking damage in fights, casting spells, or exploring as the game rewards variety, especially in Alchemy using new ingredients reveals effects and teaches you about the world. It’s exploration driven, not menu driven. In Skyrim smithing is detached from gameplay. You can’t level it by using weapons or wearing gear only by sitting at a forge spamming daggers.
It becomes a meta chore, disconnected from moment to moment GAMEPLAY.
What a dumb little damage controller you are.

>>715989747
A lot of it is already in mods just a small list of things I have through mods
>leveling reworks
>leveled rewards reworks
>harvestable vegetation change appearance in real time
>complete host of bug fixes
>markers added to both unmarked caves & dungeons as well as way shrines and county edges
>graphical overhauls across the board
>souls like combat
The only whole new feature i haven't been able to replicate is hit stuns & particle effects but I dont need that anyways

This game runs like complete shit on my PC. It almost got me to upgrade, but then I remembered that UE5 is just like that and I'll never buy a UE5 game again

>>715990343
tldr

It’s oblivion with Skyrim gameplay. It would be worth it if you could actually buy the shit on a disc but I’m skipping this dogshit until then

>>715980969 (OP)
As it stands, it's worth it if you pirate it. The graphics are better, but the colors when transitioning in the day-night cycle is not as good, and they censored all the women but only lightly censored the men. The elder scrolls has never had any filter on sexuality until now. With the context of the original, you'll at least giggle when you see the Dark Brotherhood has enough respect to give Lucien's corpse fresh underwear. The general logic is copied almost exactly, but pick-pocketing inventories makes those PERMANENT outside of respawning inventories, breaking those quests if those NPCs were supposed to get a quest-specific item later. Hand-to-hand and two-handed has been further nerfed. The performance is inexcusable. The game spikes my GPU to use 310w from 78w out of the blue in innocuous spots, and my PSU can't handle that. I still want to beat it. but that really makes it a chore. I think the GPU is starting to artifact.