What happened to more simple racing games?
now these days it's either simulators or an open world festival with the most recent hypercars.

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Wreckfest 2

>>715991830 (OP)

>>715993065
>>715993151
fair,but those are more of an exception.

>>715993151
I'm waiting patiently for the 2nd half of the story

>>715991830 (OP)
Faggots forget that racing games can be fun and instead wanted to boast about huge numbers of licenced cars they'll never drive around the same real world courses in every game.

>>715991830 (OP)
>too expensive to license real cars for a game
>normalfag scum will not buy a game without real cars
>revert to step 1

>>715991830 (OP)
People's never ending obsession with realistic graphics meant that racing games without licensed cars were seen as "lessor" as time went on.

Car manufacturers don't want their cars getting damaged so the games naturally became more tame with time. Forza Horizon 1 has better damage than Forza Horizon 5, the bumper can actually fall off.

Need for Speed Unbound tried to add a little flair into it's presentation and people went into a meltdown. Even here people shit on it because it dared to attempt something a bit different.

At this point developers don't even know how to make an arcade style racer and if they did, the racing audience would relegate it an acquired taste.

Burnout 6 and Ridge Racer 8?

You mother fuckers don't deserve it.

>>715995605
>"lessor"
You mean "lesser" you ESL reddit-spacing [...]

To this day I can't figure out if Burnout Paradise was actually worse than the PS2 titles or I just got bored of the formula. I've played it like at 5 different times in my life and I never finished it.

>>715997967
it is worse. the open world kinda ruins the burnout experience.

>>715991830 (OP)
In ridge racer's case Vita sucked and "we want the burnout audience" Unbounded also sucked. Plus Bandai does not care about older Namco IPs that aren't Tekken or arcade shit they can resell in collections.

>>715991830 (OP)
games take significantly longer to develop now with a lot more resources needed
so people (mainly AAA developers) dont experiment much because its simply not worth it, thats why indie devs are the only hope these days

I really liked carx street, was like 7 euros on sale, pretty nice features, good realistic-ish handling, nice map
FUMES is coming out soon, not really a racing game tho
Tokyo Xtreme racer should get a full release this year, there was also a JDM - japanese drift master or something game, seemed okay

>>715995605 is right, unbound was fun to play, contrarian fucks complained so much about it, as if they would have played a new nfs anyway

>>715993965
nice nigger rims
kill yourself

>>715993151
This is pretty much the only racing game to look forward to currently.

>>716000997
>carx street
>good realisti-ish handling
in what world

>>716000997
>games take significantly longer to develop now with a lot more resources needed
games are easier to develop than ever, they are only expensive because of massive scope creep

>>716002078
in our world

its pretty accurate and fun, curbs can fuck you up unlike forza horizon
post car

>>716002420
>it's pretty accurate and fun
it's slippery dogshit with npcs that just drive on a straight line

>>715995605
>Need for Speed Unbound tried to add a little flair into it's presentation and people went into a meltdown. Even here people shit on it because it dared to attempt something a bit different.
Have they tried making the cel shading effects without loading the game up with unskippable dindus and Soundcloud rappers?

one thing people don't talk about is how hard it is to develop good ai opponents for racing games
particularly if you want them to be more than glorified road bumpers and actually follow the same physics and performance statistics as the player

>>716002485
did you actually play it? AI cars are the best I have seen in any recent games, with them slowing down while flashing and then turning to avoid you, unlike other games where they just slow down

>>716002651
please provide a clip of good carx street ai

>>716002746
please provide an IQ test results

>>716002979
ah esl, that explains it

>>715995605
When people discovered Unbound was gonna have cel shaded graphics they expected the game to look like a modernized version of Auto Mobilista, not like slightly more HD Heat with low budget cel shaded human models and SFX that was made in paint 3D.

>>716003013
how does it feel to know that all your knowledge of cars and how they drive and feel to be from video games?

>>716003258
They should've just went with more stylized humans desu. Cool toothy niggas, shounen protag whiteys, Wangan-artstyle old farts, tsurime anime tomboys, throw in a drill hair ojou-sama who never works on her own car (crucial), if you want anime audience make it look actually anime and not PS1 cutscene models ported to PS5.

>>715997967
the open world was a nice novelty, but just didn't really gel with the gameplay of burnout

with midnight club 3, you could see ahead well enough, and the speed and layout of the cities made it actually possible to plan your route properly
this didn't really work in burnout all that well

also no retries

>>716002647
I think forza was right to try learning algorithms using player data.

>>716005520
that only works if you have over a decade of data collection from millions of players and a fairly consistent realistic-ish yet forgiving driving model. a smaller dev making an arcade racer (or, god forbid, an ag racer) is shit out of luck for that method.

>>715991830 (OP)
It's Ridge Racer!

>>715991830 (OP)
>now these days it's either simulators or an open world festival with the most recent hypercars.
Open world festivals are really just a Forza Horizon thing. Also, the reason developers chase sim simulation is because there's no real reason not to. Why would you pursue arcade style racing when games like GTA have already done everything arcade racers try to do?
Also, with sim racing your game actually has depth. It can be played over and over again and can support a real ecosystem, instead of just being cool for 2–3 months and then becoming dead

>>716007160
>games like GTA have already done everything arcade racers try to do?
because gta has shit physics, shit open world that understandably looks more like a city than a racetrack (compare to, say, most wanted's open world aka unending medley of best-of racetrack corners) and extreme penny-pinching and pay-to-win?

>>716005520
Forza has never actually done that. Turn 10 lied about Drivatars from the start and Playground continued it. The single, sole thing they do is use a community livery if the player is using one.

>>715991830 (OP)
Bring back Carmageddon
again

I like racing and driving games because they grant me access to cars and other vehicles that I will never be able to touch let alone own in real life.

Why is every racing game thread centered on bitching about the genre? I don't even like talking about racing games anymore, none of the threads put me in a good mood.

>>716012470
play crazy taxi

>>716007614
And people like it just fine. Most people who play arcade games don’t care about racing anyway it’s more about the vibe. Even serious arcade racers ike initialD, trackmania, wangan are niche

>>716007614
Why the fuck would I wanna play GTA if I just wanted to play a simple arcade racer

>>716013741
meant for >>716007160