Thread 715994483

Balls are my favorite plot point in the games and they NEVER get their own storyline.

>>715994545
>tripfag
>likes balls
Many such cases

>>715994610
heh

>>715994483 (OP)
>unresolved
VS Crystal resolves it.

>>715994651
S-Shut the fuck up!
We'll see them use the fusion bugs in Daima season 2

>>715994483 (OP)
But WHAT WAS the gold and silver ball?
Join me on this deep dive nobody gives a shit about as I say the things I see on screen and read from episode synopsis documents. This is, the Gold and Silver pokeball mystery, featuring my autism.

>>715994846
It was just promotion for a celebi event that just never happened in the US

>>715994483 (OP)
Celebi was in it and there was going to be an arc about it, however they decided to put Celebi in a movie instead and thus the GS Ball was dropped because they didn't know what to do with it

>>715994846
Go on

>>715994982
In the game, yeah, but you don't even get the GS ball in the english version. In the anime it was supposed to lead to Celebi but they changed plans for the movie so they just threw it away

>>715995145
the event was re-added in the virtual console rerelease.

>>715994846
damm I already subbed to your channel

>>715994610
That's a namefag not a tripfag

>>715994846
Look man, I need some mindless autism deep dives to get me through wage slave life. I respect the autismo's who have found their calling

Pokemon locked content by events was one of the worst ideas possible, only Gamefreak could create such shit concept

>>715994483 (OP)
I'm still mad.

dont mind me, just chilling wit my hall of origin arceus

>>715996017
Black & white had one where you could only fight this weird lady in a RV if you had event-specific shiny legendary dogs (Raikou, etc). You could have a shiny legendary dog but nope, has to be one from the event.

>>715994483 (OP)
Gen 3 and 4 Pokemon games have a whole bunch of content that is forever inaccessible because they locked it behind some planned event but gave up after launch.

Seems like some sort of cosmic joke that such a mismanaged garbage franchise is the highest grossing media IP in the whole planet.

>>715996369
You can get them all with the DNS trick thoughbeit

>>715994483 (OP)
>1000 episodes that never go anywhere
>until protagonist sweeps all the best trainers in the world in 10 episodes
I'm glad I caught on to this BS right after the Hoenn conference

>>715996369
>Gen 3 and 4 Pokemon games have a whole bunch of content that is forever inaccessible
PkHEX solves that.
Just hack one of the event Pokemon inside that triggers the respective event in-game.

>>715996017
>THIS GAME COULD BE WORTH A££s

>>715994651
seriously what the fuck was the point of introducing the other bugs when only the healing ones actually get used, they had to have known they were cock teasing with fuse bug

Pokemon fans be like, what's the age of consent in Alola?

>>715996628
>>715996434
The problem is that I wanted to play these events 15 years ago when I was a kid

>>715994483 (OP)
>First broadcast
>Japan January 28, 1999
>United States December 4, 1999

Christ /v/ really is the old folks home

>>715996943
>that one kid who didnt live next door to a combination movie theater, toys r us, and gamestop

>>715996820
don't care, lana and hapu are free game

>>715996017
The DS era was specially bad with it, but I feel like after fucking up so hard with this they just went the complete opposite direction with events and stopped trying, they all became just souless distribution events where you get a pokémon at the pokecenter and that's it

>>715997438
Pecharunt was good though

>>715994651
I actually liked the end with the gag that the shopkeeper had the other two Eyes just collecting dust

>>715996820
Don't think that's relevant when my dick belongs to the critters.

>>715996628
There's something where you can import the cards to your save file too yeah? I wanna find a way to do it "legit" so it doesn't trigger bad eggs.

>>715994651
>no mini bulma X panzy fusion to fight off mooks with panzy's skill and bulma's quick wit and brainpower.

>>715997765
Just change your DNS on your DS. It will just give you the legit event card

>>715996820
Old enough to pee, old enough for me!

>>715995267
The Virtual Console release for Crystal didn't even get all the stuff offered by Japanese Crystal with the Mobile Adapter GB.
>No online battling
>No online trading
>No online news
>No distributions of Blue Sky Mail and Mirage Mail
>No Egg Ticket exchange for the Odd Egg (repurposed)
>No original Battle Tower mechanics
>No minigames
>No Mobile Stadium battle video replay functionality with Stadium 2
>No Card Folder with everyone you've interacted with
>No original GS Ball distribution in the original way

>>715997438
You can actually do all the original DS events nowadays even on real hardware. You just do a DNS exploit and can download the events through Mystery Gift just like if it was running today.

>>715997438
>Add wifi mystery gift in the DS era
>Can now run distribution events to anyone with an internet connection
>Literally never fucking do that and just continue doing location based distributions

What was the point?

>>715996017
I actually liked this game concept, the Jirachi was just extra. My one complaint is they didn't expand on all you could do with a Pokemon raising sim enough.
I'll admit I'm not sure how much content is enough, but it felt short of whatever it is.

Frankly, I think it's crazy the Azure flute was never released.

>>715998418
Hey buddy, is BDSP just a joke to you?!

>>715994846
I'd watch it

>>715994483 (OP)
this piece of shit had me on the edge as a kid
it never got solved?!

>>715998545
It was supposed to have a Celebi that would travel with the group, but Celebi was decided on as the focus of the fourth movie, so they had to pivot away from it in the TV anime and hope that viewers forgot.

>>715998506
as the old saying goes speedrunning is the most degenerate

>>715994545
I like the concept too, but what story would there be? They're a mass-produced item that does a few specific things (assist in befriending Pokemon, and provide living quarters for shrunk down ones), and the general idea of it is at least a century old going by Legends Arceus and gen 2's Kurt.

>>715999019
Gen 1 Pokemon anime had a whole arc dedicated to the Great Ball and the Master Ball. They could easily just talk about Silph Co. or Giovanni's ambitions to create the world's first monopoly on expensive pokeballs.

>>715999110
Ah, so corporate drama and product development stories, I getcha.

>>715999019
She's the fattest protagonist

>>715999110
No it didn't. The Master Ball only ever appeared once in a random episode in Gen III, and it got eaten by a Whiscash. The only other times it ever appeared is as imagery (beach balls, signs, ending themes).

>>715996943
I used an action replay to play all the 4th and 5th gen ones

>>715999228
There was even a story behind the old pokeballs in Arceus.

https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Pok%C3%A9_Ball_(Hisui)

It's like they hate lore building and emotional context.

>>715998456
Yes

>>715999604
Because you want to avoid any lore building in a franchise like Pokemon full of retcons, inconsistences and sensible questions like do people eat Milktans? Pokemon eat other Pokemon? Ghost Pokemon are Ghosts of people, other Pokemon or just are born Ghosts?

Basically the entire setting worked better when Pokemon were just extraordinaire rare animals but real animals still existed

>>715999019
made for paizuri
>>715999228
made for anal

>>715997975
Okay but I didn't ask about any of that

>>716000010
>Picture
Hey wait a minute

>>715996820
olivia and plumeria dont need such questions

>>716000010
>Basically the entire setting worked better when Pokemon were just extraordinaire rare animals but real animals still existed
So your headcanon? They are never mentioned or shown in the games.

>>716000010
>Basically the entire setting worked better when Pokemon were just extraordinaire rare animals but real animals still existed

The Pokeballs themselves could have at least been expanded on. They have POKE in the name.

Is it not crazy the west never got an official celebi event in GSC?

>>716000665
They are lol read some gen 1 dex entries

>>716000010
>Pokemon were just extraordinaire rare animals
But Pokemn were Aliens

>>716000816
the event is in virtual console crystal
it is the currently only available way to get a legitimate shiny celebi

>>716000665
>They are never mentioned or shown in the games.
They even mention South America, maybe play the games before posting.

>>716000878
This guy went to bootleg gyms

Also how did anyone make it to the Elite Four before Giovanni lost Mewtwo?

>>716001029
he was visiting his GF in johto, retard

>>716000816
Its in the 3DS version of Crystal. The one on the eShop before they closed it down

>>716000859
Why does Rayquaza guard the atmosphere and freak out when Deoxys tries to enter?

>>716001029
>bootleg gyms
the anime has more gyms than the games do, at least one gym per type, per region, cause the anime has more cities and towns than the games do. ash follows the path of the games, but rivals are free to go off and get the anime-original badges instead.

in pic related's set of kalos badges the fire, water, and flying badges are anime-original.

>>715995267
Oh you can do the event if you swap one flag in save memory on the actual cart.

>>716001373
true but that's not official. the virtual console release is official.

>>715998750
I wonder if that's why they brought Larvitar in at the end of the Johto anime.

>>716001426
Yeah but I used the official Pokemon stadium 2 save editor to do it.
The tool that game has bundled in are great.

>>716001308
ray has a long history of hating and eating meteors. this is actually shown in the games and is the only reason he can mega

>>716000010
>Basically the entire setting worked better when Pokemon were just extraordinaire rare animals but real animals still existed
No, it doesn't; real animals logically can't coexist when other animals command fire and lightning.

>>716001846
Rayquaza doesn't hate meteors, he eats them. They're his primary foodstuff. He also eats Miniors, who are living meteor Pokemon. He gets aggressive with Deoxys because Rayquaza is territorial, the upper atmosphere is all his turf.

>>715995671
you missed the chance to call him newfag

>>716001309
>game with a shit ton of gyms will never exist
I hate Nintendo so damn much

>>715998750
>hope that viewers forgot.
what "hope"? It's left with a character that's never seen again.

>>716001941
>your entire life is yelling at retards under you and eating flying rocks
>flying rock attack you one day after you try to eat it
its no wonder he wanted to kill deoxys

>>716001968
Nintendo doesnt make pokemon games anon
Its 2025 why do people still get this wrong

sex with adult pokewomen

>>716001968
>Here's Galar, where the plot is Gym Battles are fucking Soccer.
>They stablish the fact that there's a Minor League and Major League of Gym Battles and that people can drop or rise so they always have to try their fucking best.
>Introduce the player character directly agains the Major League series.
>Only mention of the Minor League is being able to buy the uniforms.
>Not even a random battle for type specialists that are the Minor League representatives.
It is the PEAK of wasted potential, holy shit.

>>716002458
What did she do to Brock?

>>716000665
Child detected
TPC had a guidebook leak previously that gave employees a guide on how to treat the pokemon brand and it even referenced the fact that the older games + anime references real world locations and animals, but they phased it out due to the unfortunate questions it prompted.

Interestingly they are also never allowed to mention toilets either. Toilets just dont exist in the pokemon universe somehow

>>715996796
I assume that Toriyama didn't finish the script so much of the story was adlibbed week to week. Feels like the start was finished, some of the end was finished, and none of the middle was finished.

>>715996017
>you will never complete your gen 2 pokedex because devs decided to lock 1 (ONE) pokemon behind live event that is no longer active
So long, Celebi.

>>715994483 (OP)
The pokemon anime is a tragedy to me. We should have seen the end of Ash's story during gen 2 when he beat Gary. But they have him job to a blaziken to hype up the next generation and force him to be the protagonist. They try to salvage it by having the gen 3&4 Ash be more of a veteran trainer type character who trains May and Dawn. At the end of gen 4 even with an army of powerful pokemon at his disposal he still can't win because a legendary spammer shows up at the sinnoh league somehow.

Gen 5 resets his character and is boring. Gen 6 resets his character yet again but is not boring but he still isn't allowed to win. Gen 7 resets his character again making him relearn lesson he already taught other people but somehow this is the Ash that wins a pokemon league championship. Journeys finally gives everyone what they want and he becomes the world champion but bizarrely his final opponent is Leon with his Charizard. Which fucked up to me because the reason Leon is the way he is (being the gen 8 champion with a gen 1 starter as his ace) is because of how popular charizard and a large part of Zards popularity comes from the fact that it was Ash's ace in the original series and first couple movies.

>>716004838
wasn't it one guy that just kept ash in a state of perpetually not being able to achieve his dreams when everyone else wanted to him to win and move on to other characters? he was supposed to be replaced many generations ago and only finally got to win because of the huge fan outcry that he was never a champ

>>716004838
They should've made Ash win gen 2 and then gone the Yu-Gi-Oh route by having a different protagonist with each new series. Then they could have Ash still show up but older in those series.

>>716004838
I actually really like him losing in gen 4. It made the world feel big, and like characters with teams like what you get in the games are common at the highest level of the pokemon world. It set up perfectly for a hard fought victory in gen 5. Then gen 5 did not take that set up, and killed the last 4 generations of character development. Ash was a character you could be attached to and cheer for at the end of gen 4, and when he wasn't fixed at the start of gen 6, it showed that he was never coming back. He became a worthless mascot.

Gen 5 onward is when he started becoming a token character in the movies. I'm watching through the gen 7 anime right now, and it further highlights it by being really good but weighed down by Ash.

Also, I have way too many images of ash crossdressing. I need more normal art to balance it.

>>715994651
>>715994813
They spent like 10 minutes of a 20 minute episode taking about those bugs so it is bizarre they didn't get used. I was also surprised that the final antagonist was the joke villian from the start and not the evil lady that manipulated him into bringing the z fighters to the demon and going behind everyone's back to make more majin buu's but no I guess the evil third eye is just that strong

>>716002496
Didn't the DLC have you fight people who repped two of the demoted gyms?

>>716000662
She's only 19 years old you sick fuck

>>715994846
>>715994982
kek, yeah pretty much. they were going to use it for one of the legendries, but then just made a movie instead rending the ball pointless

>>716006296
out of ten

>>715994483 (OP)
I still can't believe they expected kids to just forget about this. Kids will go crazy if you leave them left to wonder about stuff.

>>715998456
>BDSP
>not a joke

Pick one.

>>715996017
it seemed like a better idea at the time, but yeah the special uber rare hidden dudes you have to go to toys r us in japan on a specific week were too hyped up. the point of the games was to use your favorite but they hyped up too many of the event locked mons

I'm still mad, fuck Inticreates

>>715997438
>look this up
So wait, it was never possible to reach Arceus without hacking?

>>716001029
Gio was keeping Mewtwo a secret or using a proxy to fight for his gym. Which makes sense he's afk in the game too for a while.

>>716002534
Took his virginity and had to explain non-exclusivity to him

>>716005146
There have been rumors of stuff like that and there's probably some truth to it. The Gen 2, 4 and 6 animes all seemed like they were leading to a conclusion but ultimately just don't so it's probably an instance if the higher up saying no because they thought the anime needed ash to be successful. The thing we know for sure is the original series show runner wanted to end pokemon as whole with a movie/arc that would have pokemon rebel against humans for catching them and start a pokemon vs human war but obviously that wasn't going to be allowed to happen lol

>>715997162
why would a gamestop be next to a toys r us?

>>715996820
I can settle for cuddling on the couch

>>716007353
shes such a cute stoner artist

>>716001883
which is why shudo’s idea as shown in the novelisations was that pokemon were outcompeting real animals and driving them extinct

>>716007445
She's not a stoner, she's just autistic.

NEVER EVER

>>716007595
is that why she had that badge in the shape of a buttplug?

>>716006673
>B-but it was mentioned in the short joke ending that required you to get every single fucking thing from the gacha

3 was such a mess. I wonder if it would have been any better if they didn't get Inafune after they were struggling probably not. Felt like such a slap in the face after BMZ3's kino ending.

>>716005146
>finally got to win
Pity tournament

>>716005483
You're right if the world expanded after Tobias then that would have been cool but it didn't. Instead he becomes like Jack Sparrow in the last pirates movie a character that's simply just there in a movie that exists. I honestly don't know if there's a worse fate for a character.

>>716007775
yeah, and no one was happy with the pity tournament so he speedruns his way to become world champion in the next part

>>716007595
she has a magic mushroom pokemon

>>716005392
Yeah the pokemon anime has no integrity.

>>716006868
So did he beat the shit out of Gary with it as a joke?

>>715996628
It's just not the same...

>>716006717
Correct. They had limited-time Arceus distributions at Toys R Us, Gamestop, etc., but there was never a way to legitimately enable the in-game Arceus event in Gen IV games.

>>716000010
>Yes
>Yes
>Depends on the species

>>716005392
Isn't that essentially what the games did? (I know Red and Ash aren't really the same character, but at the very beginning they were clearly meant to be analogues)

>>716008254
@grok is this real?

>>716008491
You can catch a legit Celebi in the 3DS releases of GSC, yea.

>>716008207
>legitimately enable the in-game Arceus event in Gen IV games.
in DPPT, yes, but wasn't their an event for HGSS?

>>716000665
there's absolutely mention of nonpokemon animals in the gen 1 games and the early anime. Gen 1 takes place basically on Earth not long after some war and pokemon aren't ubiquitous and are relatively new to the world. hence the
>we think pokemon came from space
stuff. and why there were so many undocumented pokemon in gen 1 and 2. Like the whole reason you are going on the journey in the first game is to help identify new pokemon. I stopped playing after Gold/Silver but the concept of normal animals and pokemon being new and South America existing were dropped sometime after gen 2 when they did the soft reboot for gen 3 or something. there are absolutely references to real animals in gen 1 and the early anime

>>716001309
>>716001968
>the anime has more gyms than the games do, at least one gym per type, per region, cause the anime has more cities and towns than the games do. ash follows the path of the games, but rivals are free to go off and get the anime-original badges instead.
Actually there might be some more reasoning to this. Back in the tela leaks last year. XY was planned to have had more content. One being the full Kalos map revealed to have a whole other section to the reign. Another was that there were plans for your character to own their own gym that you could customize and battle other player's gyms online.

>>716001883
the implication in gen 1 and gen 2 and I guess the early anime is that pokemon haven't been around that long. Like they have existed since before the protagonist's birth, but they were rare or didn't exist when someone like Lt. Surge was born. hence the whole
>pokemon come from space
thing

>>716010431
What about the fossils?

>>715997598
No shut up you have to pretend the new games are bad

>>716008879
There is, if you have a "legit" Arceus in your party you can see a special event in HGSS, but you can't obtain another Arceus from this.

>>715994651
>i want to bring back SS4 and SS4 fusion all in the same arc, while also bring back SS3 Vegeta
>Uhhh thats not good for marketing because we can stretch out each reveal to market more mech better
Im pretty sure that was the logic. They'd make more money if they save SS4 fusion and SS4 Vegeta for a different anime arc. DB will never end, and thats how they want to keep it.

>>716001029
there were more than 8 gyms in the anime. Ash just happened to go to the 8 gyms from the games. Like I think some of the other trainers like richie had random badges too.
per https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Badge#Alternative_badges_in_Pok%C3%A9mon_the_Series
there were a least 15 badges shown before Ash got to the IP

>>715994846
Celebi, and yes, Ash was going to own it. Death of Pokemania (caused by Ruby / Sapphire) is what killed it

>>715996017
its just part of pokemon being a japanese franchise made by japanese people set in japan. in ~glorious nippon~ the country is small enough you can travel to that hyper specific place doing the event in a few hours and then its just a cool communal experience

>>716000878
What the FUCK was his problem?

Pokemon being invaders is interesting but it's obvious why they didn't want to deal with the fallout of the entire global ecosystem being eliminated/replaced or why they stopped at humans for some reason in there series for children. Ghastlies with the great elephant genocide is funny, but way too troublesome in the long run

>>716008879
No, IIRC the HGSS event was if you already had an Arceus and transferred it to the game, Arceus would give you an egg containing either Palkia, Dialga or Giratina.

>>716000859
No, fairy pokemon were originally going to be aliens. And then we got Ultra Beasts instead

>>716002225
nintendo has a significant say in the pokemon games since they own part of the company that owns the IP

>>716010785
>implying they give a shit when GF is still making millions off of whatever the fuck they shit out with the Pokemon name
>why fix a money machine that aint broken

>>716008879
I don't feel like looking into but I think there were 2 event arceus during gen 4. 1 knew roar of time , spacial rend and shadow force while the other was the HGSS event one that creates one the creation trio for you. The reason we didnt get an Azure flute even was apparently out of spite because people cheated to get it so much.

>>716004838
it's because kids kept aging out of pokemon, hence gen 3 being a soft reboot and there weren't really any sequels until people started liking pokemon again as adults in the early 2010s. I'd say it's because millennials are man children, most new toy sales are to adults now, but boomers did the same shit with toys and guns, see cowboy action shooting

>>716001029
1. Giovanni only got Mewtwo recently
2. Giovanni is rarely at his gym and loves to delegate gym duties to underlings
3. You only need 8 badges to get into the League and Gary proves there's more than 8 gyms in Kanto

>>716010865
Reminds me of the original concept for the 3rd movie where oaks tells ash that there used to be animals but humans mistreated them and most went extinct, then a T Rex skeleton comes to life somehow

>>716010642
It was caused by gold and silver, that's why you started seeing the decline the next generation.

>>716005392
>>716005146
I'm assuming some higher up was worried about the show dropping in popularity if they hard rebooted it
>>716008294
gen 3 was a soft reboot. the only reason there are even mons from gen 1 and 2 in it is because they ran out of budget for designing new mons

>>716008879
HGSS had two Arceus events, to match the two types of Arceus you could get from DPPt. There was the "fateful encounter" Arceus (it says "fateful encounter" for met location), which is a special flag put on distributed event Pokémon that often allows it to unlock content in games. And then there was the Azure Flute + Hall of Origin Arceus, the original event that had been programmed in but was never made officially available. When asked why not, Masuda claimed it was "too complicated", but the actual reason seems to be that Japanese players of DP would do tweaking to get to event areas before the events. These event item distributions therefore became useless to these players since they already reached the Pokémon, and thus they chose not to distribute the items to DP, or the Azure Flute to anything.

Anyway, the first Arceus event in HGSS has you meeting Cynthia at the Sinjoh Ruins and seeing an egg hatch into Dialga, Palkia, or Giratina (your choice). The second event with the other Arceus type allows you to return, but there's no Cynthia, and you can repeat the event and choose between one of the remaining eggs.

>>716006568
they just assumed kids would forget about it because kids were aging out of the franchise and being replaced by younger kids at that point

>>716001883
nu-kemon is sanitized faggotry. Want to know what's funny? You can pinpoint the exact moment is happened

>>716010709
And it's because of stuff like that why any kind of Pokémon lore building is fated to fail, they either treat Pokémon as animals, with everything that implies, or just ignore the entire thing and keep the Disney appearance where people don't shit and the only jobs are being a grunt in a villainous team, part of Jenny's cop group, or part of Nurse Joy International.

>>716010525
pokemon that had arrived from outerspace at an earlier time. the series and games present the existence of the fossils as weird and confusing for a lot of the top scientists

>>716011346
Gen 5's anime was unforgivably bad.
I liked the focus on tournaments and reoccurring rivals showing up at them. It's a shame it's stuck in the worst generation.

>>716010642
>>716011171
it was caused by kids aging out. Gold and Silver were both good and didn't kill the franchise, kids just got older. you see this with a ton of things. Like xmen went into reruns for like a decade at one point because the kids reading them aged out

I thought the nu-Pokemon shit designs were exclusive to the Pokemon, but they even got the characters too.

>>716011371
>The exact moment
It was gradual
Even in the Spaceworld 97 demo for Gold and Silver, there are locations named West, South, and North, while Kanto exists in place of East. If they followed the same precedent as Kanto, they would have been called Kansai (which became Johto), Kyushu (which became Hoenn), and Hokkaido (which became Sinnoh).

>>716010709
>>716011505
when they made the first game they had no idea how big it would be so they weren't really worrying about muh deep lore or anything. by the time GS were done they now had to deal with pokemania and the idea of creating a long term franchise for kids so they didn't want to deal with that shit

>>716011651
Iono shows that pokemon still has the talent, they're just under too much time pressure or executive meddling to fill the games with gold. When they care and are able, they still make great trainers and pokemon.

>>716007849
yag sbarrrrrooooo

>>715994651
I really don't understand why they introduced the fusion bugs and DIDN'T use them
Daima is so weird, you feel like there should've been more episodes but then remember they wasted a good 8 or them just doing nothing

>Ash sees a lot of giant pokemon
>Discovers the Fossil Pokemon but Officer Jenny covers it up
>Finds togapi
>Teams up with Team Rocket a lot
The original Pokemon anime is pretty weird

>>716011651
it's an intentional stylistic choice to try to sell more toys. It's gay as shit
>>716011652
>>716011371
this. you can see stuff in gen 2 where they started shifting to toyification designs and getting rid of some of the lore implications and the transition to the gay shit we have now, but enough of GS was made similar to gen 1 that it's still very good. by the gen 3 soft reboot they had entirely changed course and settled on what pokemon is now

>>716001883
The original finale of pokemon was going to be a real t-rex showing up and destroying everything and there was nothing anyone could do to stop it

>>715997089
They were better times, broccoli hair

>>716002458
Pft. Young pokehebes are better.

>>716012119
How did evee learn those moves?

>>715997975
>online mode is locked behind a japan-only adapter that requires a Japanese cellphone in order to work

what the actual fuck were they thinking

>>716008014
>posts a series that nostalgia-baits just as hard

>>716010709
>>716011505
They did try to make thing super edgy in a vain effort to make people retroactively hate mega evolutions by saying it tortured the pokemon.
Now they have to deal with the consequences as they've had to dredge megas back up because every other gimmick of theirs has been a flop

>>716007849
YAGSBARROOOOOOO

>>715994846
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>>716012429
Surfplatecogni VPN

>>715999019
I enjoyed Arceus but I absolutely hated that plot point. It was just fucking stupid and felt like a total cop out.
>Uhmmm actually every pokemon in existence can shrink its size to super tiny and they just do it when we throw these balls made out of wood and nuts at them.
Would have been better if they never even tried to explain it in my opinion.
>>715999228
My wife

>>716011171
In Japan it was caused by the first set rotation in the TCG which coincided with Ruby and Sapphire. In the US it just fizzled out soon after G/S.

>>716011545
I love gen 5 though.
Even if the anime sucked, the games and pokemon themselves minus trubbish and garbodor, I already know they are getting brought up are great.

>>716011783
We know quite a few things about development
>Development on Pocket Monsters 2 began immediately after Red and Green released
>Red and Green had some promotional material before they released since they were published by Nintendo, but it took 2-3 months for them to blow up
>When they did, Game Freak announced PM2
>They had an extremely troubled development, and we can see the Spaceworld demos were entirely different games
>Masuda came onto the team from another project, saw it was in disarray, and took over as co-director
>Project was restarted, they repurposed what they could, and got it out in late 1999
>During this time, Masuda created a road map in his head that would culminate in "Pocket Monsters Diamond", the ultimate Pokémon game
>The names for Ruby and Sapphire were chosen based on this, as "lesser gems", and they were relying on them having that name
>Then because they knew the GBA had backwards compatibility issues, they had Red and Green remakes planned
>The order new regions were made (Johto > Hoenn > Sinnoh) is based on how you progressed in the Spaceworld demo (West > South > North)
>Masuda was panicking when people were saying Pokémon was dead because he had this road map for after GS

>>716008014
but Agumon died in kizuna

>>715995828
Sometimes I wish I could channel my own autismo to make videos like that people would enjoy even if sometimes they are ass pulls or far reaches. I feel like I'd at least acknowledge if they were, which many don't seem to.

>>716012654
I liked the games too. Overall pokemon was the most hit her miss it's ever been then. Lots of experimental stuff. Some great pokemon, some vanilish and basculin.

>>716008254
I can't believe sleep only increases capture rate by 4%

>>716012818
Yeah the misses are really hard misses, but the hits are really hard hits too imo.
I think since 5 gave me multiple of my overall favorite mons in general, is why I appreciate it so much.

>>715996017
>Pika pika, pikapika
>Pika pika, pikapika
>Pika pika, pikachu
>comes with a bunch of anime episodes
>super comfy tv channels where you could chill out with pikachu
>fun minigames and wild pokemon hanging around
Honestly Pokemon Channel was peak comfy

>>716012979
3rd was my favorite gen as a whole but there were good ones up until recently. I don't think I like any of the newer Pokemon designs since Sword and Shieldbert

>>716012695
so Masuda is the one who removed the >soul, from the series?
I get that GS probably wouldn't have come out without him, but it seems like budget and time constraints helped make all the good stuff from early GS development actually make it into the game. Kind of like how MM probably wouldn't have been as good without the retarded time crunch

Darkrai was done dirty, all because of cheated Smeargles.
>uh uh actually I uh... totally got it legit!!! Remember the Gen V event???? h-ha ha...
If that Dark Void Smeargle was not Japanese, it was not legit.

>games sets you up to fail
What did they mean by this?

>>716012208
Nintendo thought of hardware that wouldn't sell normally and asked Game Freak to make a Pokémon game that extensively use it so that people would actually buy it. If only they did the same thing for the 64DD.

Blue came out because Shogakukan asked Nintendo to get Game Freak to make a special mail-order game to drive magazine sales.
Yellow came out because Gold and Silver kept getting delayed and they needed to keep up brand momentum so they tied its release into around the time the first movie for the anime came out, strike while the anime is hot.

It was probably Gen III that was the first time a definitive third version became obvious from the outset, Rayquaza's existence ensured it. But it really says a lot that western fans worship a gutted version of Crystal, to the point that all of the changes that remained are apparently collectively on par with Gold and Silver having the Mareep line.

>>716013198
he fucking lied

>>716012585
That's actually old lore from 1996 books written by Game Freak right after Red and Green released. It's been mentioned in Japanese games before, but it was always localized as something else because in the west, people's entire idea of how Pokémon works is based on the anime with the laser Poké Balls. They're just monsters that can shrink to fit in your pocket, they can fit in a gacha ball. The fact they chose to plainly reference their old lore for a game that's so tied to lore is unfathomably based.

>>716013212
it's probably because they are zoomers and because crystal looks nicer since it used silver's sprites and had animations since the crystal cart was GBC only and the GS carts were like the zelda dx carts that could work on either

>>716013190
The development for GS was aimless, a Game Boy game should not take nearly 4 years to develop. Red and Green took FIVE years. Tajiri is the definition of "ideas guy", but as an actual director, he was in way over his head, and he has done literally nothing of note since 1999, and sometimes I wonder if 1998 is more accurate because maybe he was just a talking head after the Spaceworld demo. Masuda salvaged Gold and Silver.

That being said, Ruby and Sapphire were also pretty rushed and I don't think they benefitted from it at all.

>>716013167
Sword and Shield had some hard misses, but overall I think that games art direction was really good.
Scarlet and Violet though have been a total shit show.
Iono is one of the best design to come from it and shes not even a pokemon.
Grafaiai is cool though. So I guess they got at least one.

>>716013406
I mean thats cool if true, but it just makes a lot of things about pokemon, that in my mind made sense as natural creatures before, very confusing.

>>716012764
No he didn't. Partner Digimon are simply aspects of their human partner's soul that encourage growth. Agumon, Gabumon, Piyomon, and Morphomon all disappeared because Taichi, Yamato, Sora, and Menoa had all been denying aspects of themselves and weren't going down the right path, but their Digimon will come back if they stop denying themselves.

>>715997859
don't you need to change your wifi connection to wep now? lots of isp routers can't change it from wpa2

>>715996248
>look up what the hell you're talking about
>turns out it's the only way to get a Zoroark in black and white
>the only chance to get what GameFreak tried passing off as gen 5's flagship was by getting specific event legendaries and if you didn't then tough shit
I think my brain fucking hurts. What kind of retarded decision making was this?

>>715996820
Do you know any pedos? If so, name and shame them.

>>716013728
>Good designs in gen 9
>Sprigatito
>Pawmi
>Smoliv
>Toedscool
>Toedscruel
>Tinkaton
>Annihilape

That's it. Only 7. Most of which not fully evolved.

>>715997438
I remember the specualtion back then about this event was that the devs scrapped it because it got discovered by hacking so quick after DP released

>>716012654
>Spoiler
Casual.

>>716013656
Ruby and Sapphire were after tajiri and were the child of masuda. tajiri's lore ideas were cool and his idea for pokemon was cool and the deadline stopped masuda from completely gutting it

>>716014028
>Toedscool
>Toedscruel
On what planet

>>716007219
You probably had a Toys R Us within spitting distance of the local mall

>>716014264
I'm being generous. They're how you do a joke pokemon right as opposed to dundunsparce, because they're actually funny, and a decent pokemon once you've already seen the joke.

>>716013790
a bunch of them could learn minimize
>>716014331
yeah but they weren't right next to each other

>>716013790
People like to imagine the interior of Poké Balls as some high tech virtual world that converts a Pokémon into energy when they're really just 300円 gachapon capsules. The interior Poké Ball art was made for the anime. It's like how the anime says you have to be at least 10 years old to be a Trainer. It's a rule that only exists for the anime, but because the west saw the anime as the "main" product back then, people took its world view as gospel for the games.

Early Pokémon is a fictionalized Kanto region of Japan. Other countries/cultures are mentioned like China, Guyana, America, India, Russia, etc. Lt. Surge is not part of some "Unova war", he's an American GI stationed in what is Yokohama in the mid 90s. He was probably in Operation Desert Storm. There are references to real world events like the moon landing or the Challenger shuttle. You own a Famicom. Countless things in the game are based off of Japanese pop culture from the 60s onward, with Pokémon themselves being Capsule Kaiju (hence the original name Capsule Monsters) from Ultraseven.

As Pokémon moves farther and farther from its roots, it becomes harder to recognize them, and people start looking for later games and media as a way of decoding the earlier material, which I think is fundamentally flawed. Using the anime or Pokémon Special as a guide also doesn't work.

>>716014464
At least we know McDonald's and Blockbuster had combined locations (but only three)

>>716013895
What's equally as funny is you could still get Zorua as well and evolve it but that was also locked behind a Celebi event from gen 4 so without having either the event legendaries or Celebi had to trade or get a Zorua egg from someone else.

>>716014513
While it works for the gen 1 & 2 games, it fucks over the setting shown in EVERYTHING else. It's also lame, I don't want to imagine my buddies stuck in a cramped ball.

>>716014738
I personally prefer the world envisioned in the earlier games, the franchise drift that gradually pushed it away from this kind of world made it harder for me to feel emotional investment. I have a hard time seeing Pokémon's characters as people, they're unrelatable, and the world is too plastic and saccharine. I think there was a desire to more closely resemble the world of the anime, and the anime itself became more sterile with time. Where the anime started at and where it was towards its ending feels like incompatible worlds. The people of Vermillion City doing raid battles to catch Lugia feels so unlike the world I fell in love with.

>>716012196
HM (Human Male) Tutor.

>>716012209
>meanwhile Ash-Pikachu in its entirety of god fucking knows how long
At least Digimon changed its characters and Digimon.

>>715996017
It's funny that people always blame companies like Bethesda for this, but Game Freak are the ones who started it way back in the 90's by making it so that Mew was unobtainable without one of their events, and then it snowballed drastically from there. Literal the original FOMO.

>>716015052
I see what you mean. Stuff like slowpoke poaching is completely out of place in the modern stuff. Still, I don't think the overall tone of pokemon media has anything to do with the way pokeballs worked. Ideally they'd be able to capture both tones in different parts of one consistent setting.

>>716014567
that sounds based. I remember the mcdonalds by the toys r us was like in the mall in the next lot over but was like one of those places where you could get into both the mall and outside via the mcdonalds. the weirdest shit to me are the stores in the mall you can only access from the outside

>>716015052
>>716014513
I absolutely prefer the world implied in gen 1 and 2 compared to the anime and subsequent lore

>>716014738
>I don't want to imagine my buddies stuck in a cramped ball
they're pocket monsters. that's this is like looking at a human wrapped in a cozy blanket and going
>poor bastard, he's trapped

>>716002630
He went out quite suddenly. It's a possibility.

>>715994846
It was meant to hold a Celebi. Then they decided to give it a spot in the next movie and fucked things up.

>>716015772
I MUST SAVE HIM! HOLD ON, I'LL GET YOU OUTTA THERE!

>>716012764
Agumon isn't dead. He just went home. And likely some unseen contrivance led to the Chosen regaining their digivices later on. Besides, death is temporary to Digimon.

I bet Wizardmon was able to return home the moment someone with an iPhone brought it to his ghost's location in Tokyo Tower.

>>716011964
>The original Pokemon anime is pretty weird
Kino, not weird. I remember all of the kids speculating that Bill worked for TR in some capacity, like their tech guy or a researcher but sadly they never did such.

>>716016576
No, it is weird. Weird doesn't mean bad. The lead writer was high and intoxicated the whole time until his habit killed him.

>>716014416
Dudunsparce is based because it's mechanically unique (protect piercing hyper drill, boom burst, serene grace rock slide. Can be built lots of different ways) and the 3 segment form continues the theming of a Tsuchinoko being rare but pointless

>>716016312
Digimon that die in the real world stay dead (unless you're Cocomon from the third movie, and even then whether or not it ever returned is inconsistent between media). Wizarmon also stayed dead, except it came back as a ghost in 02, which didn't make a whole lot of sense, but then Vamdemon did the same thing after being defeated and possessed a suicidal man. Digimon in Adventure's continuity are just modern digital representations of the phenomenon of youkai, which themselves are also implied to be an extension of the human collective consciousness. Digimon Adventure more or less operates by SMT logic with the Digital World being equivalent to the Makai. For more information on what happened to Agumon, read >>716013832.

>>716016661
>The lead writer was high and intoxicated the whole time
Incredibly based

>>716002534
My headcanon is that Brock was disillusioned by just how much of a slob she really is (we saw some of it during the episodes she appeared, but she must be far worse than that), and having a sister myself I can attest to how fucking gross girls can be around people they're familiar with.
To someone like Brock, who puts girls in a pedestal, seeing something like her used tampons or skid-mark panties must've been an immense shock.

>>716016661
based writer

>>716007725
Good, ZXA was awful and the random ass cliff hanger was retarded.

>>716017215
>SMT logic
what?

>>716002534
She was married. That's really it.
Tracey sucked dick, what a downgrade. He was only used to trojan horse Marill to hype Gen II.

>>716002534
There was some old doujin I read a long time ago where she's a hard dom and subjects Brock to all sorts of stuff, and she uses those younger lab aides to help in the process. It's been so long, I don't have it saved anymore.

>>716018352
Brock was replaced because they thought brock was offensive to Americans, but then they realized that nobody cared and backtracked.

Nobody backtracks when they realize nobody cared anymore.

>>716018352
>>716018457
wait, really?

>>716018457
I am aware, which is why I said Tracey was boring. He was made to be as inoffensive as possible. He was there to promote Marill.

>>716018457
Simpsons removed apu for the same reason

>>716011179
>>716007039
It was literally this one guy, he kept Ash losing and no one spoke up because Japanese autism.

>>716018076
In Shin Megami Tensei, there is the human world and there is the makai (demon realm/world, "the Expanse", among other names). This realm is formed by humanity's collective consciousness/observation. Usually there will be some inciting incident that opens a portal to it, causing all that inhabits humanity's collective consciousness (in this case, demons) to flood in and bring the world to an apocalyptic state. There are ideas like as long as there are those who believe in an idea, it will keep coming back, and ideas with more believers are stronger. This is why something like God can be so dangerous in SMT. Digimon Adventure and 02 only goes as far as to have that realm be represented as the Digital World, and says that before, it used to exist as stuff like youkai, and areas like Kyoto which have a lot of historical spiritual significance have a thinner barrier, so Digimon may start to cross over there. Partner Digimon are in fact an extension of their human's soul. If one disappears on its own like in Kizuna, it's implied to be caused by that human denying fundamental parts of who they are. But because these Digimon are tied to a soul, they will never actually truly be gone, just dormant, and they will return if the human stops rejecting themselves. That's why it's not just them returning to the Digital World, it's not a physical movement but a spiritual one. By 2028, everyone on earth will have a Digimon partner, because there's an unspoken rule that the number of Chosen Children doubles each year starting from the mid-90s.

>>716019464
the more info that comes out about the inner workings of hololive the more the japanese seem like retards

>>716019541
so grant morrison but japanese

>>716019541
>tfw I only ever watched like 2 of the movies and that series where TK is a teen and they have like egg armor

>>716019557
That's one hell of a tangent dude, but to your surprise Cover is actually one of the sane companies who have adapted western work culture sensibilities after all the backlash they've received early on in their career

>>715994483 (OP)
No More Heroes 3
>Unresolved Henry Sub plot
>"joke ending" that just leaves room for sequel that only happens if more money is needed
>Travis's entire backstory was retconned that involves a cult brainwashing him and his siblings

>>716020097
he was complaining about japanese autism and like half the stories that come out like 3 am meetings in japanese and perms shit are based on japanese autism

>>716020379
Them not giving a single fuck about perms before 2020 almost got all the channels nuked so that jap autism is there only because of the shitty draconic jap laws

>>716001968
>I hate Nintendo so damn much
We all do.

>>716020521
it still doesn't fix the
>nah dog, you gotta sit in on this 3 am meeting your time in fucking japanese because reasons even though you don't speak a lick of nip

>>716008879
The event doesn’t give you Arceus, and I’m pretty sure Toys R Us event was before HGSS came out so you needed one from DP

>>715994483 (OP)
Dragon age: dreadwolf

>>716001968
It's really Gamefreak. Their level of laziness is astonishing

>>716013856
Next easiest way is to use modded 3DS and inject the event with PKSM or extract your save with checkpoint in use poked in your PC

>>715994651
They're used in the daima dlc and whatever the next Heroes shit will be
Divers flopped

>>715997765
works on my machine

>>715997438
>The DS era was specially bad with it
>they all became soulless
Which is it? Did you hate it before or now? you faggots just hate anything they fuckin do

>>715997438
>>715996017
>TFW trying to convince my parents to drive 150 miles to one of the few malls in australia that actually has a pokemon event happening just for a fucking pokemon
Would've been so fucking kino if they just did something as mildly elaborate as the regi's, instead they had to torture parents, neckbeards and children alike.

>>716010672
dunno man but he got pretty humbled by placing lower than 'tosh in their first league. even dumped his harem so he could focus on the grind

>>716002534
I like the fan theory that she had a dick, which explains why Brock was so mortified and did not want to be reminded of the experience.

>>716002534
he walked in on her getting serviced by her assistants

>>716011371
>6200 miles
autistic overly-specific translation of 10,000km. they could've wrote 6000 and it would've been fine.

>>715997438
>>716002496
>specially
>stablish
I'm calling ICE

>>716021817
They look that are only into foursomes.

>>716008550
Too bad you cant buy vc crystal anymore

>>716018457
>inventing stories to be angry about
they really are obsessed holy shit

>>716022093
>>716022646
Did I fall for a hoax? I'm kinda curious if there is a source now too.

>>716022803
an animation director (who had no say or ear into the actual decision making of the series) theorised in an interview with an American fansite that the international audience would think he's a stereotype of Asians. the same guy as the one who said "we change the girls out every now and then because boys like a new piece of eye candy".

>>716018062
Nah, it was fun gameplay wise and it fix the first game's silly map, but yeah the fucking cliffhanger felt like a slap in the nuts. Least we can assume Thomas' "great reset" had something to do with the world flooding as seen in Legends.

>>716013895
Yep, absolutely stupid.

>>715994483 (OP)
The GS ball makes me think about all the comfy Saturday mornings of my childhood

>>716011268
I really do like it when GF kicks into gear and makes stuff about the origin and foundations of the Pokemon world. I know LAZ takes place in the future, but I hope we get more stuff with it, especially with a living fossil like AZ being a full on character in it.

>>715994483 (OP)
I'm glad SF3 ending with Kelvin coming back, but knowing the devs had another story to tell with Geo (along with introducing a descendant of Lan, the protag of the previous series) makes me annoyed we'll never get it.

>>716013895
Same decision-making with how you needed the Regis to unlock Regigigas, and needed Gigas to unlock the Regis

>>716023126
>it was fun gameplay wise
It's really not. Go replay it.
Inticreates' autism for everything to connect to Legends, lore be damned, is absolutely retarded and I hope if ZX ever gets a new entry that Capcom just forgets that the cliffhanger is a thing from ZXA.

>>716023629
>Same decision-making with how you needed the Regis to unlock Regigigas
This one isn't so bad because the Regis are free in RSE, theyre not locked behind an event.

>>716024149
Never said it was terrible, just that it was stupid.

>>716012585
>they just do it when we throw these balls made out of wood and nuts at them.
Well... yeah.

>>715998506
my favorite one is the trackmania cheater controversy
dude spent nearly 2 decades cheating basically every run he ever did with cheat engine and slowing the game down to pseudo TAS his replays, then gets caught all these years later because someone created a tool that shows you the inputs that are saved in the replay, and you could see him tapping the turn buttons in perfect time and many times a second faster than humanly possible so he can hug a corner with like less than an inch gap from the wall
then part 2 comes along after he's been named and shamed for over a year or so, and the guy went down a huge schizo powered mental breakdown and stealing people's identities and creating like a hundred alt accounts to try to suck up the leaderboards, while still cheating

possibly the saddest human being alive on the planet

>>716012342
all of gen 7 is that edgy, cmon now

>>716013856
yeah or be unencrypted. i just bought a $5 one from a tech store and used that

>>716023463
Why is Arceus so fucking attractive?

>>716014513
TPC created an internal style guide/franchise bible for how to present the franchise and to explain how things worked so different creative teams would stay on-model. They specify that pokemon are to NEVER be referred to as data or being converted to data, but set no standard on how pokeballs are to actually work. they also made no effort to explain how transferring and storing pokemon on the PC work. Which is why the anime does what it does and they never changed it.

>>716023114
imagine if instead of swapping them out they just kept adding them

>>715994813
Kekychooky

>>716013895
Gamefreak for some reason REALLY wanted Zoroark to kick of like Lucario did, giving it a movie and everything. Like, the third trailer had scenes that could have been real cool
>transforming into Ash and causing bullshit for him
>straight up attacking him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tewaSJxtHLs

>>716000878
Gary was too damn based. Early pokemon was great. I miss when characters were allowed to have personality

>>716024529
>a weakened pokemon will curl up tight in an effort to heal itself
that's nice and all, but it doesn't pan out since you can catch them at 100% hp

>>716002534
Realistically, I think that Brock proposed and got rejected. Got too heartbroken because of it.

>>716025267
Honestly, they were probably trying to make another pattern that wasn't just the Fire/Fighting issue

>>716014464
I'm from Akron, OH and there was 3 Gamestops next to the Toys R Us in that time period. It's because that plaza had Funcoland, EB Games, and Babbages. All three got bought by Gamestop and became Gamestop. Most of them stayed open until like 2009-2010 too.

>>716011957
Toriyama died before he wrote that part

>>716011957
Part of the joke is that the shop had some of the most overpowered shit in the world just collecting dust on shelves. The lady had two spare demon eyes literally caked in dust because nobody wanted them.

>>716021984
it's pokemon, of course it's autistic

>>716004838
>a large part of Zards popularity comes from the fact that it was Ash's ace in the original series and first couple movies.
no you moron. it's because it's a dragonlord rip-off, a character that both japs and degenerates alike go crazy over

>>716005483
you do know that the leagues are actually a small portion of the whole system right? it makes no sense to have people with fully decked out, maxed out pokemon that could sweep the elite 4 in one go at them because there are way bigger tournaments after that

>>716024636
fucking based, I'll have to check it out

>>716016661
is that why Pokemon fuckin sucks now? maybe these losers can do some coke or something

>>716013728
Most legendaries/mythics of the last 2 gens dont even look like they are, I thought they were normal pokemon until a friend said to me that they actually were.

>>716025909
>I'm from Akron, OH
what's it like being black?

>>716023618
I honestly would have preferred they just took the news about SF4 to the grave. What the described about just makes me mad since it sounds like we missed out on some real kino

>>716026505
Tobias lost to Cynthia. A region's champion is the top in the anime canon, at least it was during gen 4.

>>715997714
I kneel

Believe in DotLiko.

>>716026704
These designs suck fucking ass, holy fuck.

>>716026741
meowscarada agrees with you

>>716002141
Yes, that's what they were talking about

Pokebeach interview:

>What's the deal with the GS Ball? As I said "GS Ball," he shook his head and started to laugh, embarrassed. He stated "You're very sharp (for us remembering that, I guess)" and began to explain it contained a Gold and Silver monster. I asked him if Celebi was in the Ball (since you use it to summon Celebi in the Japanese games), and at first he paused, as if he shouldn't say, but then said "Yes." He explained that the writers were originally going to have a whole story about Celebi in the show with Ash and crew, and he made it sound as if the story was more important than the Ball's function of getting Ash to move around (in fact, he only briefly mentioned the latter part; he was emphasizing the existence of the story more than anything). But, they decided to save Celebi for the movie instead, which is why that plot hole was just left there. He said the writers didn't know what to do with the Ball after they made their decision, so they were hoping fans would just forget about it all together when Ash and crew left it with Kurt. My impression of what he was saying was that it was all just poor planning. I asked if we would ever see the GS Ball again, and he said no. I think we can safely say the GS Ball case is closed now.

Leaving it with Kurt was their way of writing it off and hoping viewers forgot about it, though Kurt and the ball are mentioned one more time after that by Oak

>>716026634
>Tobias lost to Cynthia.
we don't even know if they battled

>>716026624
I'm actually in one of the weird ass redneck suburbs but alas

>>715994483 (OP)
the GS stands for GameShark
>>715996248
>weird lady in a rv
What's the pricenfor losing? Your virginity?

>>715996017
I remember getting this shit as a kid because it promised Jirachi. Not only I didn't get Jirachi, but what I got in return was a far worse Hey You Pikachu sequel

>>716010431
They had to retcon this stuff when Pokemon became a long-running franchise. It was no longer reasonable for Pokemon to coexist with normal animals once they became common and global.

>>716000878
There was a fighting dojo in Saffron, maybe it was a badge from before it got declassified for doping with illegal Proteins and Carbos

>>716025596
That's a localization, in Japanese it says ちいさくなる (shrink). It's the same word used for the word Minimize, literally "become small". The localization didn't know it meant literally because we never got the lore book that explained Pokémon are capable of shrinking, so they tried to rationalize it as curling up in a ball.

>>716010341
centipede torso

>>716027617
I seriously doubt you can call 100% hp "weakened"

>>716025009
I've seen it, and it's for companies they're licensing merchandise manufacturing to. In short, Japanese companies don't want situations like the 4Kids Christmas album where Misty is singing about having a crush on Ash. TPC has become far more strict with the information that's allowed to be introduced. If Game Freak says Pokémon can die, then they can die, but it's their call to make, not Irwin Toys'.

>>716026628
Exactly.
>with Kelvin back, how would Geo's dynamic with his friends change? He will for sure be wanting to catch up with his pops, which might affect the time he spends with his friends
>being branded a criminal, how would Geo navigate the world? how will this affect his parents? his friends?
>would Kazuma be a friend throughout the story? would he betray Geo? what does he think of Lan, would he respect his ancestor for helping create the world they live in now or seek to change it?
So many theories that will never be touched on.

>>715998848
Running toilet% on Mafia 3 is fucking impossible.

>>715994483 (OP)
>unresolved plot point
they literally use it for summoning celebi to the ilex shrine....

>>716027801
TPC was founded specifically to bring all of that stuff in-house. Third party companies like 4Kids being allowed to do their own thing is long over, they don't even outsource the anime dub anymore (TPCi is one of the very few directly Japanese-controlled dubbing studios)

>>716000878
>has the volcano badge
this one always confused me
the entire build up the volcano badge was that Blaine had shut down the Cinnabar Island gym and Ash only got to fight him due to solving a puzzle, and Ash was the first person to fight him and win the volcano badge in like, decades.
How the fuck does Gary have it?
>oh well maybe he got it afterwards, ever think about that, anon?
Alright well Gary was ON Cinnabar WITH Ash but he was on vacation fucking his harem and milking his shota prostate and left the island before Ash fought Blaine. And right after Ash won, he and Gary met up in Viridian which is where this picture comes from. Also, basically any way you read his badge case it couldn't be his most recent badge.
For his badge case to make any sense he'd have needed to leave Cinnabar, learn about the gym from some type of divination, come back quickly, beat Blaine, go somewhere else, also beat that gym, and come back to Viridian City within a very short time frame, which I think sounds unlikely. Gary just bought these badges off ebay or some shit

>>716027950
yes in japan, all westerners got was a cool looking pokeball that was overhyped in the late-90s that didn't do anything in our version

>>716027950
Based retard

>>716027950
>>716028089
The anime GS Ball subplot was dropped with Kurt because Celebi wound up starring in the Pokemon 4ever movie and the anime writers were hoping kids would just forget about it.

>>716011872
I'd add Miriam to that list. I also quite like Rika and Dendra too, but I think former is probably very dependant on taste and the latter is just outright because I have a thing for sweaty chicks.

I still can't believe ash got to tap this at the end of the show

>>716007775
>Pity tournament
people who say this are retarded since Alola was known for producing extremely powerful trainers, and the "champion" Ash fought was Kukui who was undefeated even amongst master trainers like Kahuna's and he also had Tapu Koko who was a legendary, and in the anime legendaries are extremely big deals and the Tapu's are even particularly strong even among them. Ash deserved his Champ status, and that's further evidenced by him becoming the world champ right afterwards

>>716027795
The text in Japanese is
>なぜ ポケモンが
>モンスターボールに はいるのか?
>なんでも この ほんによれば
>ちいさくなることで よわった
>たいりょくを かいふくする という
>ほんのう だということです
>そうした ポケモンの せいしつを
>もとに ボールがつくられたのですね
>Why do Pokémon enter Poké Balls?
>I understand that according to this book, it's an instinct to recover weakened stamina by shrinking.
>Balls were made based on the characteristics of Pokémon that did this.

So while balls were made based on this characteristic, it doesn't say it's the end-all be-all reason, just that the ball works to their nature of shrinking.

>>716028089
...and then came the 3ds vc re-release where that point became null & void
just had to wait almost 20 years

>>716026634
>>716027082
It's actually implied he got washed before getting to Cynthia. Following the Pokemon League is the Champion League where the winner of the Pokemon League + Elite Four fight in a tournament to decide the new champion. And we see the final fight in the champion league is Cynthia vs Flint.
We don't know exactly how the champion league works since it's barely mentioned and then we see 10 whole seconds of it, but if it's a tournament including Cynthia herself, then she might have beat Tobias or one of the elite four did, but if it's just the elite 4 and PL winner, then at the very least Flint beat his ass. But seeing as we never saw Tobias again, he either got fucked up round 1 of Champion League, or just decided not to participate.
Either way, seeing Tobias turn out to be small potatoes in the grander verse after legend spamming is hilarious

>>716028330
>I had sex with my wife and turn out she is a pokemon in disguise!!

>POKERUS

i got it once
random concept

>>716028713
>where that point became null & void
How the fuck is it null & void? When that port came out, all those kids were adults by that point and the GS Ball hype was long dead by that point.

>>716012654
Trubbish and Garbodor are fucking fine, only people who bring them up as any kind of a gotcha are worthless secondaries who would hate them no matter what.
>bro, inanimate objects???
Yeah, we've had those from the very beginning. Muk is a glob of sentiment shit and Magnemite is a floating magnet with an eye. I don't think trash is that far from the norm.
I think Klefki and vanillite are more egregious

>>716001029
>>716011058
4. Gym leaders don't bring their best to their work. They're there to skillcheck 10-year-olds, not a deathmatch

they'll never do this but get shitmon and design them to be about 10% cooler. Each gen gets less and less thought put in

>>716010192
>Gen 1 takes place basically on Earth not long after some war
The war Surge mentions is clearly Desert Storm.
>"Lightning American," hence America and other major factions exist
>Gen 2 Space World Demo shows Kanto as the Kanto region of Japan
>"Shock and Awe" hence why he uses electric types
>Game was released and presumably set in the 90's very recently after Desert Storm took place
But heaven forbid we reference real world events! Let's have the "The Great Pokemon War" be about a King Louis expy wandering the earth for eternity after inventing nuclear weapons!

>pokemon has same cry

O THE SHENANIGANS

>>716014513
Pretty sure it was the Columbia, not the Challenger
The Columbia hadn't blown up yet

>>716027801
>4Kids Christmas album where Misty is singing about having a crush on Ash
that song was a banger

>>716027950
in the game. OP was talking about the tv show

>>716029523
one of their albums actually had MJ do the production on it

>>716029085
I mean I just don't like them either. Living trash is just kinda dumb imo.

>>715996820
>be like
stop typing like a nigger

>>716028082
>For his badge case to make any sense he'd have needed to leave Cinnabar, learn about the gym from some type of divination, come back quickly, beat Blaine, go somewhere else, also beat that gym, and come back to Viridian City within a very short time frame,
he's gary mother fucking oak

>>716010192
>I stopped playing after Gold/Silver but the concept of normal animals and pokemon being new and South America existing were dropped sometime after gen 2 when they did the soft reboot for gen 3 or something
GF isn't above rewriting dex entries to remove real world connections once they have something else to fill in the void.
>Raichu's Dex in Red/Green (reused in FR/LG); "Its electric charges can reach even 100,000 volts. Careless contact can cause even an Indian elephant to faint."
>Raichu's Dex in Legends Arceus; "It can discharge bursts of electricity exceeding 100,000 volts—a single strike with that amount of power would incapacitate one of the Copperajah of my homeland."
Just like in the anime where we got scenes using real life seagulls, said birds are now replaced with Wingulls when similar scenes come up now.

>>715996820
Everyone knows that public sex is a customary greeting to those you have deep bonds with in Alola, like Italians and kissing each other on the lips.

>pkmn colors dont allure to the type anymore
:(

>>716029607
>I just don't like them
that's a much more understandable opinion, even though I think they're both decently neat.
Just the idea of living pollution being somehow out of left field is dumb since we already have that several times over.

>>716029778
do I have news for you, anon, introduced in gen 6 is the fairy type which is basically just the "pink and pretty" type.
They're also really good

even as a kid i knew jynx was a *ahem* an 'african american'

>>716001948
i stilll reserve the right to call myself an oldfag, though albiet

>>716029085
gen 1 mons look based
>>716029580
lmao, was he mad the kids were cartoons?

>>716029895
>i stilll reserve the right to call myself an oldfag
what year did you come here?

>>716011346
Never understood this retarded complaint. The Pokedex gives new info all the time. And you retards never complain when during the entire anime Growlithe was scanned like 4 times

>>716029784
Yeah I mean its not "living pollution" in itself that bothers me. If that was the case, I'd have to hate muk and grimer too.
I just think them looking like a literal trash bag is meh, and thus I don't like em.

>>716029832
Uhmm don't you mean the trans colors :^).

>>716030058
>I just think them looking like a literal trash bag is meh, and thus I don't like em.
>not pokeist, just don't like em
I respect it

>>716022090
Kek

>>716030123
only one that is true trannycore is Sylveon. It's fucking trans pink and its shiny form is trans blue.
Which is unfortunate since Sylveon is actually really cool and I like it and it's be co opted by mentally ill freaks.

>>716029523
misty song? yeah i had that fucking album. that was fucking weird. it was a legit, full on 3-4 minute serande of misty, wistfully remincising about how she could of had that sho dick but didnt.
what the fuck. i was like, 11 years old and hearing this shit? that reminds me of that fucking book we had to read for year 11 english, hatchet.
>teen boy survives plane crash, lands in the middle of a forest, and survives living there (title is called hatchet because he went back to the lake where the plane sunk, dove down, recovered some gear and equipment and found a survival hatchet in the gear, and used it to great effect

the book ends with him making it back to society, reconnecting with his gf that he had before he was presumed missing and fucking dead, she was waiting for him anyways, and he takes her out to the wilderness where he survived like an alpha chad and fucks her on the lakeside as the tide comes in, and its this big fucking "coming of age story" shit. i couldnt believe it at the time, even then i thought that shit was weird. your telling us NOT to have underage sex, NOT to give into your childish emotions and DONT think that the girl/guy you fell in love with during fucking highschool is the real deal, but then make us all read a fucking book where those things literally happen and are presented as the best possible outcome for that particular situation? the fuck?
>dont have unprotected sex with people you barely know
>also read this book where the climax is this guy has unprotected sex with someone they barely know

>>716030212
>sylveon
If we are being honest, and you aren't politically poisoned by american gender ideology, Sylveon isn't 'trans-coded' its literally just cotton candy / cute color scheme.
I like it though because I'm not poisoned by such things.

>>716030029
not entirely sure. i think about 05 or 06. was born 91, and i distinctly remember being underage bannu and being terrified someone would scope me out instantly. they told me, "lurk moar, for a year, before posting", and i did it.

>>716029778
What the fuck are you talking about, retard?

>>715994483 (OP)
>one of the villains is completely unaccounted for and there is no sequel

>>716030284
>it's just cutesy and cotton candy colored
yeah no shit anon, obviously it wasn't designed to appeal to American trannies, but this is the same group of people who say every character is gay and trans and secretly fucks boys.
I still like Sylveon, the weirdo men in dresses won't stop me, but I fucking hate the idea of me and them liking the same thing. I hope they go away so I can enjoy things more easily.

>>716030295
>>716029778
They still largely do to an extent, but they don't adhere to it to the same strictness that they once did.
picrel hes not dark type

>>716030287
>05 or 06
yeah, you're an oldfag alright.
weird to see you're doing the retarded
>thoughalbeitthou
shit but thanks for staying around, gramps. Glad to know not every single person in these threads are tourists.

>>716030412
I agree with you.
Can relate honestly. picrel

>>716012119
that lopunny is making me extremely horny wtf bro

>>716030441
gardevoir will always be a grass type to me. fuck pokemon lore, fuck all those homosexuals. in my mind, i can bend, stretch and eventually snap and break all of gardevoirs limbs (male) wth my bare hands.

>>716030483
>>thoughalbeitthou
i was meming. i think that whole, albiet, though shit is fucking stupid. i put that there as basically a shitpost.
although, beit? get fucked.

>>716030578
>gardevoir (male)
gardevoir was always meant to be a male, it's just supposed to be a mage in a cloak. It's name is literally "sirknight"

>>716030624
>i think that whole, albiet, though shit is fucking stupid.
that it is.
I wonder where it all started

>>716029778
Never did. *cocks up Rock Tomb*

>>716030216
I read hatched and thought it was based. I don't remember the ending but I remember him cutting a bird's head off, picking the feathers and pulling the guts out, it was cool

>>716030660
Wtf

>>716030441
>but they don't adhere to it to the same strictness that they once did.
They never did have any "strictness". It's a hugely autistic complaint.

>>716030287
also born in 91. I remember coming to 4chan because g4tv said so

>>716030772
I don't lie, anon. I am based, forever and always.
it wasn't until gen 3 came out and they realized everything wanted to fuck it that they made it a "female" pokemon and gave it a male counterpart

>>716030717
it was a sharty thing iirc
>>716030803
as a 92 baby, I found this place through gaia and encyclopedia dramatica

>>716030795
You're probably right. I was lookin through the pokedex and realized it was a general rule, but not something that was ever followed 100%

>>716030717
>>716030862
it's a fucking ESL thing that the sharters started doing because it annoys the shit out of people

>>716030660
no i will not fuel your retarded theories. gard was set to fem/mal at a 50% percent rate because...they have 400 fucking species and rules and one of them slipped through the cracks. male/female gard's are CLEARLY and OBVIOUSLY a mistake that got left by the wayside far too long because people started taking that shit seriously. its fucking stupid, wrong, and fetish freaks trying to drag their shit as hard as they can into any fucking situation possible

also im also that guy. im the guy who keeps shitposting male gardevoir stuff and all that. im sorry. sorta. in the sorta way where im not sorry at all, im just acknowledging you have some sorta beef with me

>>716030862
I used to use this place and gaia online at the same time. Mostly gaia because I had friends in real life who also used it.
I used to talk on gaia like I'd talk on here. Kind of funny thinking back on it. Did my best to get rid of that stuff though years later since they actually do not allow you to delete your account. Stupid.

>>716030953
anon what the fuck are you talking about?

>>716030975
>Did my best to get rid of that stuff though years later since they actually do not allow you to delete your account. Stupid.
can't you just lie and say you are a yuro? I think yurope has a law that says companies must delete accounts

>>716011964
My guess regarding that Dragonite is that it got Dynamaxxed over in Galar, but due to some weird mutation or other it was never able to return to normal size. As a result, it has become isolated from its peers, and endlessly roams the seas in the hopes of finding another that can match it.

>>715996017
I remember attending events for Mew and Celebi during gen2, and then for the Eon Ticket and Deoxys during gen3 and it was really cool, especially the gen3 ones since we'd do a ton of record mixing and I filled my game with other people's secret bases that I can still visit today.
But I lived a 30min bus ride away from where the events were hosted, so I get that it was shitty for other people.

>>716030975
same here, my rl neighbors/friends were the ones who got me to use it in the first place
I had like 5000 posts mostly cringe forum roleplay and I am not going through and manually deleting all of that
I just think of it like my contribution to the ai chatbot datasets out there

>>716031039
are yo new or something? unpacking this would be a huge fucking endeavor. could you be more specific. what part has your panties in a bunch?

heh noticed there were some other oldfags in the thread, such as myself, just thought i'd mention that, like the other oldfags. we've been here for so long, you guys wouldn't understand

>>716013728
Nah, I like Lokix though.

>>716030862
>gaia and encyclopedia dramatica
grim

>>716031281
its almost like. your....here...for...a long time, yeah, right?

>>716029778
I have a memory of playing Pokemon Stadium 2 with my dad's friend and him throwing a fire move at this goofy nigger.
Although it is a fucking frog.

>>716029778
a classic

>>716000878
Dude went to the Aperture Science Accredited Pokemon Enrichment Centre.

>>716031101
No idea. I wasn't aware of that though, but I remember ages ago trying to delete my account and learning they do not delete accounts. Best you can do is submit a report and they will "partially deactivate" the account as best it seems. Its fucking weird and only made me all the more glad to be away from that place. I basically just manually did as much as I could.
Its been ages since I've even been to that site, and looking it up again now, it seems they still do not allow account deletion. Maybe Eurofags have some work around though
>>716031232
I never roleplayed. I just talked about vidya. Put I was pretty "curt" with some people there to say the very least, and spoke as if my opinion was objective fact. I got a chuckle at some things going through it all. Cringed at some other stuff.
I just lazily did it over a few days watching/listening to stuff on youtube while I did.

Had one or two of picrel on my sigs too.

>>716002458
Aye, so many people lusting after the children and meanwhile there's absolute bombshells like this showing up every five minutes in the early seasons. Sign me up for some WOMEN.

>>716031249
>what part has your panties in a bunch?
well panties in a bunch is a bit far from the truth, but basically all of it.
You call gardevoir being male a theory, which it isn't. That being said, I was hyperbolic, I think Gardevoir can be either, as evidenced but it being either gender, but I don't think it was supposed to be especially feminine.
Then you said "it's male female rate is 50% because there are a bunch of pokemon and it fell through the cracks" and I have no fucking clue what you're trying to convey here
then you said male and female gardevoirs are a cler and obvious mistake and I don't know what the fuck that means either since you named both of them as male and female again
then you called it a fetish and said how you post male gardevoir art I've luckily never seen before
Genuinely, I have no fucking clue what anything you said means.

>>716031313
my hear four a long thyme?

>>716031456
Sign me up for some HILDA

>>716031583
too small

>>716031281
Geezer

>>716031615
please pay respects to the elders, amen

>>716031613
Shes perfect.

>>716031281
I'm still going to waifu post until I die or the site shutsdown

>>716029496
I always get the two mixed up.

>>716030216
I read Hatchet when I was probably 12 or 13 and I don't remember any sex. I remember when he got back home and couldn't believe grocery markets were a thing, and when the pilot suddenly died mid-flight and voided his bowels as evidenced by the smell.

>>716031562
mussloni really did a number on yall

>>716030353
Watch the OVA that came with the final Blu-ray, congrats on having one more episode that practically nobody knows about and everyone who did know about it has forgotten it by now

>>716030795
This made me start thinking about Gen 1 Butterfree and Venomoth and it's really starting piss me off the more I think about them.

>>716031462
>Then you said "it's male female rate is 50% because there are a bunch of pokemon and it fell through the cracks" and I have no fucking clue what you're trying to convey here
im saying that someone who didnt know what gardevoir looked like, was tasked with setting the stats for it, and when they hit the "gender" category, them, not knowing what gardevoir looks like, knew that shit like muk existed and gender being irrelevant for a literal pile of toxic sludge and just ignored the category.
>and said how you post male gardevoir art I've luckily never seen before
now thats a fucking absurd claim, lmao. im willing to ignore, or concede all my previous statements about...anything, if you have really seriously not ever come across male gardevoir art.

>>716031776
crazy how retarded you must be to miss the point of that post

>>716031746
the bowels voiding was like, page 15. it was right at the fucking start more or less. the sex on the lake as the tide came in? literally not just the last chapter, but nearly the last fucking paragraph.

thinking about it, it would be absolutely trivial to cut those last few pages out and pretend the book was complete. it literally ends with him talking about how he slides in while the tide slides in. literally graphic descriptions of teen sex. that wasnt...in your version?

>>716031934
There is so much weird shit going on there. Slowbro apparently has a Shellder on its tail, but that thing looks nothing like any Shellder around. There isn't even a regional variant for it!

>>716031987
>it was mistakenly given a gender
I don't think that's how this works, anon, I think all that shit is done pretty strictly. I don't think someone could look and decide a pokemons stats and gender and somehow not know what they look like
>you've NEVER seen male gardevoir art?
I mean, yeah, around here and there over the internet, but 1 specific poster spamming male gardevoir as a shit post? No, not really.

>>716032081
>t literally ends with him talking about how he slides in while the tide slides in
alright now THAT'S fucking funny.
He literally times his strokes with the tide?

>>716031281
the first episode with the GS ball was in 1999 and the last was before 9/11. It would be weirder if someone in their 30s or 40s was a newfag

>>715994483 (OP)
>gs means gold and silver
>mind=blown

>>716032028
what? i was making a shit long reach reference to how mussolini made the trains run on...thyme.

its an old word play gag about how shitty commy countries were more efficient because mussolini made the trains run on...thyme. like, time? the trains run on time? but the soviet union was so fucking poor they had to run their train engines on....thyme. a shitty crop?

>>716032081
I read it in 6th grade, abd I don't remember that part at all
I remember the decomposing pilot though, both the book's description and the movie's version

>>716032175
nah, its not that funny. i came up with that. just wordplay. sorry

>>716032221
Not them, but I think the other poster was making fun of how they used "your" instead of "you're".

>>716032182
well i'm 56 and i'm a newfag

>>716032231
now im REALLY wondering. you could cut like the last...5 pages of this book and completely change the entire fucking theme of the book. holy shit!. remember how they made you write shit about the color of the curtains? "the author described the curtains as blue. this wasnt necessary, so they must of ment something by it. write 400 words on it"

>>716032349
>the other poster was making fun of how they used "your" instead of "you're"
they did? they used "your" instead of "you're". "they" did? how embarrassing. why would "they" do that?

unless you ment me. not they. yep. a minor, minor mistake that completely and utterly changes the entire context of the conversation. obviously, this was a misteak, but im gonna fuckin grill you anways. like a mistake.

>>716031746
yeah, I remember the pilot shitting himself at the start with the heart attack

>>716000010
Is that mislabeled? Shouldn't that be mongoose or something, not snake?

>>716032081
If it was, I don't remember it. we didn't read it in class, I read it for something else. I remember the pilot shitting himself and I remember him killing and gutting a bird and I remember him diving to get the ax

>>716010709
>or why they stopped at humans for some reason
Why do you think we are getting more and more humanoid Pokémon creatures with certain traits.Itnis to slowly replace humanity.

>>716032446
why?

>>716032494
>remember how they made you write shit about the color of the curtains?
I remember in school I always hated this shit and thought it was dumb. Then I grew up and read more and realized that setting ABSOLUTELY has an intended effect on the mood and writing shit like "the dark blue curtains, brushed against the peeling wall paper, barely hiding the light from a waning moon from entering, leaving the room lost in darkness" is not just a description of the room but also supposed to convey a certain melancholy and depression
I am sorry, all literary teachers my entire life, I was a dumb retard :(

>>716032714
for fucking hachet? get fucked. yes, many a great piece of literature does indeed rely on the curtains being blue. hatchet? i dont think so.

>>716032665
i'm a newfag because i just started posting here, even i know that, you actual newfag.

>>716032892
>for fucking hachet?
I wasn't specifically talking about Hatchet, just uniquely about the whole "explain why the curtains are blue :^)" shit. It was a pretty ubiquitous experience, I remember seeing memes about it when I was in school. The idea that teacher harp on dumb little shit like curtain colors, but in growing up and reading more, shit like curtain colors absolutely matter. The setting and how it's conveyed to the reader makes a huge difference in tone.
I've never read Hatchet, actually missed that one in middle school, so I don't know if it's a masterpiece or whatever, just saying it's a humbling experience to learn I was a gay retard and my literary teachers knew more than an 11 year old. I read Where The Red Fern Grows, though.

>>716032654
You've got it backwards, it's because all the humans keep fucking pokemon instead of each other.

pretty stoked we are discussing hatchet in this thread. on /v/. this means we are really going to get some fucking good shit on it. we are talking about something that is not videogames, on the videogames board.

>>716033070
welcome to 4chan, anon.
off board discussions are always better than on board discussions and it's not just a /v/ exclusive phenomenon

>>716033054
okay sure it does matter, but it didnt matter in the examples they presented to us and taught us did matter. fuck them. if you wanted to use some media as an example of the curtains being blue meaning anything, why not find some media

where the curtains being blue

ment something

>>716033140
yes. i know. thats why i went out of my way to make custom oc jsut for this thread. that custom oc being about 3 seconds in mspaint, but still.

dunno what im doing. im being arbitrarily aggressive for no reason. sorry.

>>716032494
I have no recollection of a sex scene whatsoever. This would have been around 2007 that I read it for school, and the only thing I remember about the ending is the grocery store bit and his realization of how plentiful food is in civilization and how he took it for granted. I do remember my teacher asking if anyone understood the part with the smell in the helicopter, and watching South Park at that age, I answered with the bowel voiding thing. I also remember something about the helicopter hitting a lake, and I think something about standing water being like hitting concrete, and also the mosquitoes. I googled the book a few years back and saw the author wrote a ton of sequels.

I think the book I liked reading the most for class was Holes. Didn't care for the Disney movie as much, but I reread the book several times.

>>716026547
Toxotransmosis moment.

>>716033209
>that custom oc being about 3 seconds in mspaint, but still.
mspaint OC is the life blood of this website

>>716033158
Because that meaning and the connotations or allusions from using particular words and settings is something built up from a corpus of exposure to the greater body of english literature. You might as well chide your gym class for not exposing you to every exercise or your middle school math class not going into differential equations. The entire point is introducing a form of thought for you to learn how to apply.

>>716033070
I only remember the guy surviving and the dead pilot when he went back to swim. I forgot all the survival things he did and will probably just watch some survival guides on how to start a small fire and eat tuna.

>>716026704
Amusing it took the anime over 20 years to finally do what every other anime was doing.

>>716033039
I think he means why the fuck did you decide to browse 4chan in your late 50s my man

>>716000878
>Gary as a protagonist NeverEver

>>716026547
You mean like every single gen outside 2, 3 and 4?

>>716033039
holy esl

>>716033379
Good?

>>716033234
>>716033279
no one else remember how the last chapter is about him taking his gf to near where he crash landed and having vigin teen sex with his gf as the tide literally rolled in?

no one? did this actually happen. am i misremembering.

>>716033070
did you just make this or have people hatchet posted before?

>>716013359
using a different lens

>>716033591
hatchet posting is admittedly incredibly rare and obscure, but in the 20 odd years ive been here, its been mentioned and discussed atleast...3 times, to my memory.

>>716033517
imagine being so bad at grammatical rules that you think someone who has typed something correctly is esl

>>716033368
i hate video games

>>716033816
reason accepted
https://youtu.be/NSyIzGfTEBA

>>716033554
I asked ChatGPT and it said there is no sex scene nor is there much mention of romance in the part of the main character.

When I was a kid, I remember reading a book that I remember very little about. There was the main character, a girl his age, and her father. The father had money, and he was trying to hunt some sort of lake creature (I don't think it was the Loch Ness Monster) and he got eaten or killed by it. I think the boy had developed a bond with the creature before, so the father character was sort of an antagonist. I also remember a scene where the girl is changing in the same room as the boy and trying to act like it's not a big deal.

>>716028545
I don't see how that changes things. it's basically the same as in english discounting the "curl up" terminology snafu.
>stamina
tairyoku is the word for health (HP)
basically it asys that when they're weak, they shrink. hence if they're at full power, they shouldn't shrink

>>716033763
you are ESL because you took my question of
>why?
as
>why are you a newfag
and not the more obvious
>why would a 56 year old suddenly come to this site in his mid 50s
esl

>>716034260
no i answered you literally because it was a retarded question to ask in the first place, but you clearly didn't pick up on the implied joke i made, so who's the esl now faggot

>>716012585
>>716024529
As a kid I just assumed Silph was basically pokemon's Capsule Corp. and invented the tech that lets you shrink and store stuff in pokeballs, which is probably what the original lore was going to be given that you find items in pokeballs in the overworld.
(Fun fact, I reached this conclusion as a kid without knowing what the fuck Capsule Corp. was since I never watched Dragon Ball)

>>716033816
Based. God damn.

>>716034173
Never mind I just ChatGPT'd the book description I was thinking of and it's BY THE SAME FUCKING AUTHOR AS HATCHET WHAT THE FUCK

The Creature of Black Water Lake

>>716034203
Yeah, but it's also an actual term outside video games unlike HP, and since he's quoting a book, I thought it would be better to go with the more standard form of stamina. Pokémon instinctively shrink when they're at low HP as a way to recover, maybe that can be explained as what happens to a Pokémon when it faints. But Pokémon are also able to shrink at full health, which is what they do when recalled into a Poké Ball. You can see in the graphics they shrink down. They also instinctively shrink when you throw a Poké Ball at them, even at full health.

>>716033554
I don't remember the ending just that they found him. You sure you weren't power studying and jerking at the same time? Happened to me, no not the jerking part but reading two books at the same time, the haunted toilet book and some other book about a guy who eats pizzas and that he added 7 passes of deodorant which I found strange why the book went into that specific detail unless they were portraying him as autistic and that he had to frequently go on patrols. The teacher then rightfully advised me no to multitask books as I may get both plots combined and confused. This was back in elementary when they had a selection of books.

>>716034173
>I asked ChatGPT and it said there is no sex scene nor is there much mention of romance in the part of the main character.
well. well then the fuck did this happen? im 100% fucking sure ive read that shit, because i was baffled by that shit at the time. what...?

>>716034613
>You sure you weren't power studying and jerking at the same time?
im not sure anymore. i dont know.

>>716034618
It's almost like machine learning models are fucking unreliable and fucking spew endless unadulterated bullshit, and you should just flip through the actual goddamn book to answer the question.

>>716034397
>never watched Dragon Ball
You missed out.
>>716014513
Honestly for as "comfy" as the pokemon world is, it is a little too saccharine at times. I do still really enjoy the setting a lot, even though the games never live up to the official artwork or even the settings potential in general, but still.
It being slightly more "gritty" and based on the real world is a bit more interesting my opinion. As it is very clear that as the years have gone on, rough edges have been sanded away. One need only look back at some of the early Pokemon Manga if you're not going based on games. Even the early anime too.
Hell the manga "The Electric Tale of Pikachu" was drawn by a hentai artist funnily enough. I have a few volumes of that from when I was like 9.
>Other countries are mentioned
Yeah I distinctly remember that in pokedex entries for things like Arcanine.
>>716034563
>>716034203
>>716028545
>>716027795
>>716027617
>>716025596
Translation errors like this in old games are so neat when you see the downstream effects 20-30 years later and how it actually impacts major things.
This only furthers my anti-localizer stance, though this is one I wouldn't be mad at necessarily because it seems like they were still trying to capture the same meaning as the Japanese but without the same level of knowledge.

>>716034826
sure. which book? the fbi statistics on race? or like, the cat in the hat?

>>716034826
I agree with you, but as another anon that also read Hachet as a kid, I also did not remember any sex scenes. It is possible the anon is remembering wrong.
Check the book if you still have it.

>>716034887
>The Electric Tale of Pikachu
Also was censored in the west too, though Misty's clothes were still very erotic looking despite this.

>>716022093
>>716022646
Thats true you retard. Brock was replaced because the franchise was going international and they feared he would be seen as offensive because of his closed eyes but then realized no one cared.

im going under. so fast. im moving back to australia this year.
>its unbelievable, you know it cant happen, every time they go round!

>>716035057
>>716034887

>>716035128
>>716035057
>>716034887

>>716035128
>>716035057
>>716034887
Hmm I knew Electric Tale of Pikachu was drawn by a hentai artist (also have some copies) but I didn't know they were censored. Shouldn't be surprised though. Honestly, have considered grabbing the Japanese versions anyway, but this might be the motivation to finally go through with it.

>>716035128
i fucking owned this sort of copy as a kid. i also got caught printing bestality rape porn and tried to hide in it a wheres waldo book. my sister entered the room and borrowed a book. that book. the one where i hid the image of misty getting raped by charmander. man.

>>716034371
going on 4chan for the first time in your mid 50s is weird, retardo

>>716035248
believing everything you read on 4chan is retardo

>>716034613
>the guy eats pizzas and goes to the haunted toilet

>>716034887
>>716035057
>>716035128
was he someone's buddy? how does this happen?

>>716035230
Sadly my old copies are bent up, and I'm missing one of them. But I am glad I still have some of them.
I didn't know they were censored as a kid, but pokemon was also one of my weeb/anime gateways at the time. I had no way of knowing at that age, so early in the hobby.
>>716035243
>misty getting raped by charmander
kek.
I also printed some images as a kid. I dont think there was anything too crazy like that though in it. None of it was pokemon related either.
literally lied to my parents and said I found it in the bathroom at school. Swore for weeks up and down that was the case. I don't think they believed me at first, but I think the consistency in my lie on it finally won them over
Also a cursory search makes me think you are confusing it with a chameleon.

>>716034887
>Translation errors
Every translation team should have Japanese first language members as well as English first language members for the minimal chance at mistakes like that. Or at least minimal chance of unintentional mistakes like that.

>>716011268
That's bullshit, I followed DP tweaking glitch videos two decades ago and everyone said getting to Arceus was impossible because you couldn't set the correct flag

>>715994651
So what would happen in Vegito Blue and Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta fused?

>>716035556
I agree, but that was never the case for old video games.
Hell Final Fantasy 8 was basically done by 1 guy.
And these days they just hand them over to activists and dont care if its accurate or not.

>>716035559
https://youtu.be/qT9PNuUNH_o

>>716035326
>no you don't understand, I was only pretending to be retarded

>>716034887
>You missed out.
I'll give it a proper read and/or watch one of these days. I definitely have a soft spot for Dragon Ball, particularly the early stuff of what I've seen. Fuck whoever decided Yamcha was a meme character.
>>716035230
Electric Tale is based, sad that the series is fucking aimed at pearl clutching prudes now, we should've had a proper uncensored release by now.

>>716035690
Wish there was a good site that named and shamed games that fuck it up and highlight how badly they fucked it up.

>>716035559
>>716035706
And an easier method
https://youtu.be/eszoM2RHqsU

>>715994651
I want to see a fusion between OG Broly and Nu-Broly

>>716035713
stop derailing actual thread discussions

>>716035714
>spoiler
I agree. Always thought he was cool as a kid.
Future Trunks was always the coolest shit to me though.
Probably was the sword though. And that he didn't look like a dweeb like his Dragonball Super self.
>Pic
Thats cute.
I should read the physical copies I have to see how things are in it.
Wouldn't be surprised if those pages aren't even there. I'm missing Vol. 4 though like I said.
>aimed at pearl clutching prudes now
Became VERY apparent what they were trying with the series designs when Scarlet/Violet came out.
Too much pandering for "global" appeal.

>>716035934
Who cares about that after bump limit? I want to see pokegirl tits.

>>716035823
Modern translations that fuck it up, or old ones where it was less intentional/activist driven?
Or both?

>>716015241
You mean Nintendo? Nintendo is like the most predatory publisher/developer out there and they see everything they make as a product with a price tag.

>>716035559
Probably took a while to find a setup for Arceus. https://archive.palanq.win/vp/thread/57935322/ this thread shows a 2006 Japanese DP save with Dakrai and Shaymin using the void glitch just months after release and way before the game released in the west, lol.

>>716036035
Can't imagine someone doing it and not doing it for both, but mostly for modern translations so I know what not to buy or can know what the intended story is.

TotK had several moments that smelled really fishy when I was playing through it, but I was never able to figure out if it was actually tampered. The lore tablets in the sky namely.

>>716035934
we are in a thread with 500 posts where people are talking about the hatchet

>>716035706
>>716035849
That's amazing anon, thanks for sharing.

>>716036180
Well older translations were not always so maliciously mistranslated.
As was stated for things like even big titles like FF8 there were done by very small groups or even single individuals sometimes. When going through a whole script, its natural some things may get by incorrectly, especially if you dont have someone to consult or check idioms/modern/slang or even references with. Translation can go very deep especially when you think of things like slang or all the different ways simple phrases or words can be accurately translated / literally translated but have very different meanings based on context. I try not to get too riled up unless it was clearly done maliciously or with political/activist slant because of it. Unfortunately, so much is done with that slant these days, and there are usually hints to clue one in if you look close.
>TotK had several moments that smelled really fishy when I was playing through it
Thats a game I'd believe probably had some "touch ups" in the translation for sensitivities sake. It was absolutely done between BotW and TotK changes things like "Race: Goron/Hylian/Zora" to "People: Goron/Hylian/Zora". Wouldn't want to have a weird no-no word like "race" in the game. Its funny because thats technically not even really an 'incorrect' translation. Both can be accurate, but its clear why one was changed and can cast some doubt on other aspects of the translation.
But I also think some of the original writing had the same done at the source for global appeal for that game.
Still really liked it though. I'll have to try and look up the tablets you're talking about.

>>716036493
>>716036180
Also just realized I misread your post. Can probably disregard the first half of my rambling.

>>716036493
Imo carelessness is a kind of malice of it's own. If a game can prove that it's faithful, that's a selling point on it's own.

>>716035984
>when Scarlet/Violet came out.
I feel like the pussification of the series started in Gen IV it distinctly felt a lot "kiddier" than Gen III in its character interactions, and writing in general. The series felt like it was getting back on track with Gen V actually having a fairly mature plot based around one of the most common criticisms of Pokemon's world building, but then Gen VI came and the series never recovered.

>>716036645
>If a game can prove that it's faithful, that's a selling point on it's own.
It is, I agree.
But I don't think a lot of older ones were necessarily careless. Just lacking knowledge and resources to get answers and did the best they could. Like in pokemon, them lacking lore that would cause a mistranslation that would have small ripples lasting years.
These days, for any game released, there is no excuse in my opinion. I'm still mad about Elden Ring's mistranslation
>>716036724
Fair. My fingers are crossed they get their act together before the Gen 5 remakes, both from a technical standpoint, and a design standpoint, if those remakes even happen.

>>716036724
Gen 5 was doom for the anime. Gen 6 was doom for the games.

>>716036724
what the fuck are you talking about, gen 5's the first gen where tpc had full control over the translation and its cringe as hell

>>716035108
NOOOO DONT GO BACK

What's the hatchet ?

>>716037014
An old book about a young kid survives a plane crash and uses a survival pack with a hatchet in it to survive in the wilderness.
The hatchet he has is like his fuckin batman utility belt for survival.

>>716035556
Part of the problem is that there could be a small subset of the same few people writing for a game series for 20+ years, and they have their own habits and references and they wrote about things in side material and blah blah blah
Do you remember the Switch presentation from January 2017 with Suda51? He went off-script and went totally crazy with all his references and pro wrestling terms, the guy trying to translate him in real time got fucked over hard because it was an entire subject of things he wasn't prepared for. If you want to translate Suda51's games, the best thing is to be familiar with the stuff he's familiar with and to try translating everything he's ever written since starting his career. General translation is fine enough as a skill, but it's better to specialize for certain things. Just get a group of people who are familiar with all things Pokémon and the stuff that inspired it.

>>716033058
That was my point, and the pokemon keep pushing more and more fuckable mons out, further eroding any resistance from the humanity. Truly demographic victory without a single bullet shot.

>>716037135
Then you get things like call backs to maybe a 20 year old game that the translator might not recognize exactly without being told by the original writer.
"Yes, this is a direct quote from 8 games ago, 20 years back in the same series, so make sure its translated identically as well."
Something like that might be the only way they'd know. But I think we all know that issues like that aren't where the major source of translation complaints come from.

>>716037135
Pure communication is impossible, even without a language barrier. Still, studios and publishers SHOULD be trying their best before giving it their stamp of approval. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect translators to research the inspirations and interests of a game's creator before or during a game's translation.

>>716037315
>>716036645
imagine you're a hiker and you see this 12 year old girl and her 3'11 playboy bunny walk by

>>716037315
>Pure communication
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEBGjCC97CU

>>716012764
No one that likes digimon considers Kizuna cannon

>>716037781
Never did watch Gundam Wing, beyond seeing duo fall out of a building and live, and threaten to kill that girl for inviting him to her birthday.

Lots of these images would make great phone wallpapers. Anyone have any that are desktop sized?