Thread 715995158

>>715995158 (OP)
Imagine letting a t*rk command your flagships...

Take it slow.

>Yeah, I read you...


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>"""""""""SIR"""""""""

What the fuck was his problem?

IN REAR WITH THE GEAR

>>715995889
Why does everyone who picks Raynor in Coop mode think rushing Battlecrusiers is the way to go on every map ever

Where's Starcraft 3?

MY WIFE FOR HIRE

>>715996940
Please no

WARP FIELD STABILIZED

>>715996721
only retards and autists want to play with 8 different useless squads of units, just get 12 battlecruisers drag the mouse and go to town

>>715997203
ARCHONS RECHARGED
HIGH TEMPLAR SLOTTED
SHIELDS TO FULL

We're goin' full psi storm this time-prepare your micro or get vaporized.

>Khala guide me

coolest motherfucker in entire RTS genre

MY WIFE FOR HIRE

>>715995889
>Who called in the fleet?

>>715996721
i maek marine

>>715996721
how did you play when you were very young?

>>715997442
Based, I'd hire his wife

>>715997203
someone post THAT video

>>715996423
authority (you)

>>715997536
Massing Carriers because big alien ships were and still are cool

YEEUUUUUUUAAAAGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

zug zug
something need doing?

>>715998015
This is not Warcraft in space!

>>715997954
WTF was its problem

>>715997464
You pig!

>>715996403
Vatever THAT means.

>>715998320
make it happen.

>>715997203
>STARCRAFT IS MY FAVOURITE GAME EVER

>>715996423
I think Vulture vs Helion is the best showcase of how inferior SC2 was. Just compare their voice lines, Vultures absolutely mogs the Helion and it's not even funny.
And it goes further, sound design is piss weak too- Vikings attacking sound like they're launching pillows, and marine gunfire sounds like generic fps m4 or something, compared to SC1 marines which sounded more like Aliens smartgun.
Not to mention the soundtrack, you could copypaste SC2 soundtrack into any high fantasy generic rpg and you wouldn't notice any difference.

>>715998104
It's much more sophisticated.
I KNOW IT'S NOT 3D.

>>715997875
my first pvp match i got buzzed by cloaked carriers, unfamiliar with both arbiters and carriers.

>>715998808
better tools.

>>715998320
IT’S A TRAP!

>>715998104
MY LIFE FOR AUIR!
I mean *cough* Ner’zhul!

>>715996721
To be fair, Raynor’s fully upgraded Battlecruisers will crush just about anything in Coop mode

>>715995158 (OP)
>cool guy that makes the odd star trek/battleship yamato reference
>>715995889
>HAHA HE'S RUSSIAN HE'S DRUNK THATS IT THATS THE JOKE LOL

I still can't believe just how bad sc2 was. they even made the zerg sound less cool and they don't even fucking speak
>b-but the gameplay
No! they made the units practical fight for you leading to the meta being 2 deathballs chasing eachother around the map for 10 fucking years and in order to pretend the game is still a gosu micro game like sc1 you're required to click a little button on your command center the second it comes off cooldown or you're behind in minerals vs the other guy and lose the game 10 minutes later from the other guy having a bigger deathball. it's like saying chess would be more hardcore if you had to do 5 pushups before you took your turn or you lose, its not demanding enough to be a true test of my physical mettle but it means I can't take the game easy either.

>>715996423
I love the grainy low res portraits in SC1. The remaster is pretty good, but the classic portraits mog so hard.

Nihao

>Plato is ever a man, nation an ideology of idolatry THAT is what it means to be human in this age of fluttering flower petals and blood smears so blood smearily that one may yet mistake them for a weep of roses upon the yet barren heath.
what was his problem?

Why is it always battlecruiser and never battleship when it comes to spaceships?

>>716002010
cruisers are boys ships are girls

>>715996423
that's a beard, not him resting his chin on his fist
wtf

>>716002010
Cruiser sounds nice because people like going on cruises

>>716002010
It's a battlecrusier, like a battleship and a cruiser in one, that MUST mean it's a more powerfull ship type

>>716002010
milton bradley lawyers

>>716002170
But the Hyperion is a super Battlecruiser, and it’s called a girl in both Sc1 and 2.

>Odin’s up, and I’ve never been happier!
>Odin’s waiting for me… Calling to me…

>>716002357
>resting his chin on his fist

>>716002845
Hyperion is a normal battlecruiser, the same kind in the original StarCraft.

For me, it’s Kerrigan as the Queen of Blades

>>715997203
Is this really his fault when he doesn't build air defense or scout? I think having a wraith camping around the edge of the map would help.

>>715995158 (OP)
>Battlecruiser operational
https://youtu.be/DSRA4dkFrhc
I miss that era so damn much, attending blizzcon and such. fuck man, I this shit, I hate that we were advancing too damn fast. FUCK!!

>>715995889
>What do you mean we're out of olives?

>>715995158 (OP)
>"I'm going to sink this bitch!"

Starcraft on N64 was pretty good actually

>>715997536
use the cheat to make it so I can go above the pop count and spam a million marines

>>716007928
that's fine for the first 5 levels or so, but once they get siege tanks, even a million marines can't get past a line of like 5 or 6 tanks in siege mode at a chokepoint

does sc2 have the multiple players sharing 1 base resources and units mode?

>>715997954
I wish I could hear the music without the screaming.

>>715996140
russian

>>715996940
Ask Frost Giant Games!

>>716009530
yes. archon mode

>>715996423
>What the fuck was his problem?
He knows you just want his spider mines.

>>716002010
Battleships have the connotation of being slow and heavy
The fact that the word Battlecruiser went away because new battleships were capable of being fast as well as armoured doesn't seem to be well enough known

>>716010991
Battlecruiser sounds more exotic and is less commonly used. I would imagine that's why they used it instead, it gels with the sci-fi setting better.

>>715998738
its the decline of soul

>>716013264
They did my boy goliath pilot dirty in an especially irksome way. Who thought this fat goofy faggot looked ok?

SC2 is soulless shit.

>2025
>still play Brood War without remastered graphics
>at least I play in 16:9 now

>>716013941
this is 100% some middle manager working at blizzard they probably call Rick because he looks like Rick from Pawn Stars, even though every fat person looks the same.

>>716013941
I guarantee that he's a developer

>>715996403
Make it happen

>>716014115
i was pleasantly surprised that you can just download it on battle.net for free and play it like that

>>716014278
Probably. I hate this shit. Cute "self-inserts" into a game nobody would ever care about outside their walls. Character design should be an art, not an outlet for narcissism.

so everyone agree that the remaster did it right? right?

>>716015291
other than missing Raynors monobrow, yeah

>>716013941
Starcraft 1 looks so much better

>United Earth decides to exile "undesirables" from earth
>Terran Dominion are mainly comprised with Australians and Russians
>Terran Dominion proved much more stronger than Earth

what did blizzard mean by this?

>>716015291
bottom look like overwatch characters
no thanks

>>716015291
Not a single one looks better than the original.

>>716015291
>601
Portraits no, everything else yes

This mission's always pretty boring.

>>716016151
try doing it without cheats faggot

Of course, retarded contrarian /v/ would think SC2 is bad.

>>716014103
>>716016438
>SC1: Take us to orbit Mr. Malmsteem, we've seen enough
>SC2: I love you Jimmy

>>716016438
Storywise, SC2 is a fucking trainwreck. And a complete jackknife from where the story was heading in 1.
>MY WAIFU IS NOW GODDESS OF UNIVERSE!! YAAAAY

>>715997442
Only wrong lines for the zealot.
>HONOR GUIDE ME
>BLASIZERB
>DOWN GOLA
>IT'S ALL TRUE

>>716016438
The story is absolutely bad. Splitting it up into a needless trilogy that took forever to complete (the game was pretty much already dead by the time Legacy of the Void even came out) was bad. The gameplay was........ okay. I know SC2 has its fans, but it certainly wasn't the "Chess 2.0" that Blizzard was hoping it would be following Brood War. SC2 was just okay overall, hindered in large part by its single player mode and redeemed somewhat by its multiplayer, but overall it didn't surpass BW. And keep in mind, this was right about the time that MOBAs were taking off. I won't blame SC2 for "killing" the RTS genre, but it certainly failed to save it. SC2 needed to be a grand slam to save RTS as a whole, and it wasn't.... and we see the result of that now where MOBAs took over the RTS genre

>>716015291
No, the original Terran tech was a lot more gritty even if the proportions left you wondering how they fit inside and operate the armor. It's too much like Starcraft 2, and the Protoss in the remaster are too jacked. The High Templar's portrait is way less creepy in the remaster, and fans had to twist Blizzard's arm to make his eyes red again.

>>716016151
So go on the offense then and destroy all the zerg forces.

>>716002010
Ship classifications don't make sense and PISS me the fuck off

>>716018656
>the Protoss in the remaster are too jacked
It's more that they're too exposed and visibly show skin where the original was hidden by shadow and low resolution. And neither of these look like the zealot in-game, who was either a tiny guy with two knives, a weird splayed-out guy, or a green-skinned ayy depending on if you go by the sprite, the wireframe, or the portrait.
I might be talking out of my ass, but I think a lot of SC1's visual charm a result of the limitations of late 1990s 3D tools and if blizzard had the power back then, it'd have looked more like SC2 or SCR does now.

>>715996423
>>716002357
>Something on yo' mind?! What'chu want?

>>716019923
>I have returned.
>some anime girl
lol. Who's this not-doro?

>>716001537
Where's the meme of the mASS production of marines? The Duke was pretty pissed about it.

>>716017829
>BLASIZERB
THUS A ZERG

>DOWN GOLA
DEE OW CHEWLA

>IT'S ALL TRUE
VISAHH-ACHOO
>HONOR GUIDE ME
That is what he's saying tho
Khala? Get the fuck out of here

>>716017829
GLASS I SERVE
OVER-GUIDE ME

>>716020576
>G-HOUSE!
>WHAT MAN CALLS?
>FOR A GOON!

>Khala? Get the fuck out of here
Probably, you never know with the zealot.

I like how Corsair's line "it is a good day to die" is also a cheat code from War 2. I know it is a reference to Star Track, but still.

>>716020172
The Protoss in the remaster art look closer to SC2 than original in their physique. They're definitely thicker compared to the thin boi in the original. You can look at Fenix in the cutscene "Fall of Fenix" where he's a thin boi, but his cinematic appearance looks nothing like his portrait. So inconsistent appearance isn't that new of a problem in Starcraft but certain parts remained consistent like the Protoss' physique. Tassadar in his cutscene when he detonates his channeled energy gives another good view of the thin boi limbs. Speaking of that cutscene, the Mutalisks still use their acid attack that Blizzard changed to the glaive wurm during development.

do you seek knowledge of time travel?

>>716022230
>ASGDADAWDFFA- Do you seek knowledge of time travel?

>>716013941
>>716014278
It's literally Dustin Browder

>>716020264
some korean guy who likes both starcraft and blue archive decided to make videos combining both.
picrel is an "android", so he often depicts her as dragoon

>Somebody call for an exterminator?
The Ghost doesn't feel right without his subtle southern accent.

>>716022872
I'M HERE

>>715996423
i sent so many to their deaths just for the lulz and he knew but he never refused
he was my little how high

>>716001219
For me it will always be the Ghost
>Lens flare concealing most of the mask
>Occasionally lit more by sparks
>The fog breath
Just kino. Remastered's model isn't bad but it just reveals too much.

>>716022490
>Geh- Duh- Who set all these lab monkeys free?!

>>716022989
>Finally...
>Ghost reportin'.

>>716015291
zerg look great
terran are okay
toss got absolutely butchered

>>716023303
>You think as I do.
The irony of the High Templar being visibly more dark than the Dark Templar was not lost on me.

>>716015291
The models themselves are ok but I think they're all too well lit. I think a lot of the character of SC! portraits is in the dim lighting reminiscent of the Nostromo in Alien. Granted I'm sure at the time that was used as a way to mask the low fidelity of the time.

>>716001537
BIG LOAD

>>716023303
The old Ultralisk looked, to me, like it had a big split-mouth going down from the portrait. That's cooler than the "correct" version in the remaster that's a tiny head with weird elephant trunk tubes hanging off it.

>>716022631
That sounds really odd but cool.

>>716014490
Even if you have it downloaded you can't play it without internet

>>716022383
It's actually another baldie https://starcraft.fandom.com/wiki/Brian_Sousa

Guess he packed a few pounds while working at Blizzard! No idea why he wanted to have his fat fucking face ruin one of the more iconic characters of the game.

>captcha 0HMAD

>>716023592
The decal work on the marines was something else. It was a good inspiration taken from Rogue Trader Codex Space Marines when they still decorated their armor with a lot of decals too.
Kinda wish current Space Marines kept the aesthetic.

>>715995158 (OP)
Has there never been a doom wad based on starcraft or have I just never seen it?

>>716024583
nta, but dont the umojan terran kind of prove a point by having that tribal-esque aesthetic on their gear? its probably more common among mercenaries

sssshemedy

>>716023854
>weird elephant trunk tubes hanging off it.
I will slap you if I see this tomorrow

>>716001114
dork

Can I just buy the original starcraft? Or is the only way to get it now to buy the remastered? I really like the way the older games look.

>>716024920
the remastered lets you use the old graphics, retardbro

>>716024993
Okay, then buy my dick too faggot

>>716024993
Don't be mean to me, I was just asking.
but thanks :3

>>716024343
>has goggles
>doesnt use them
>uses warpaint
Shill thread

>>716024851
The original is still ambiguous enough that I can see it my way, but

>>716024752
In the Amerigo cutscene they're all former Terran Confederacy marines impressed into the Dominion. By 2 a lot of the decals are stripped away with both Dominion and Umojan marines' armor. Didn't know about Umojan troops decals. I must have missed something in the Starcraft 1 manual, or is that something from a book?

>>715996496
>special operations trooper with the authority to call in nuclear weapons
>outranked by literally everybody except the marine and the scv

>>715997593
>>715998496

>>716025157
>unicorn
>intestines from mouth to pelvis
This looks like retard marvel slop

>>716013941
looks like white big smoke

>>716024792
To think, there's an overlord hero unit named Yggdrasil, or just a special overlord type called a Yggdrasil.

>>716025190
He doesn't have the authority, you do as magistrate or whatever the terran commander is at the moment. He's just the guy who points a targeting laser and promptly dies in the explosion

>>716024792
Love this elephant niggas

>>716024792
KILL

>>715995158 (OP)
Does anybody knows the name of that fan custom campaign that was basically the whole sc2 story before come out? I remember there was a running gag between a marine and a medic

>>716024920
pretty sure you just install it via battle.net
i don't remember ever having paid for it, i can't find any receipt for it or anything

>>716025221
nerd chills… what a true gamer…

>>716025642
Even if you install it you can't play if offline

YOU MUST CONSTRUCT ADDITIONAL PYLONS

>>716024920
>>716025642
Yeah, you can download Blizzard's version of original Starcraft. Just be prepared to live with the Remastered advertisement taking up space on the main menu where the WorldEdit icon used to be because Blizzard depreciated the editor. Original Battle.net UI is different too. You can try Internet Archive for ISOs to load and scrounge for a CD-Key. That's where I got Diablo 2 and Lord of Destruction instead of paying for Diablo 2 Remastered.

>>716025783
are you going to take it on a camping trip or something?

>>716025893
nta but it never hurts to have a copy that works offline if your Internet goes out.

>>716025893
No. Believe it or not esl, but the internet is not forever

>>716023854
You made me look up the Remastered portrait because I interpreted the classic portrait as having a "split mouth" too. Goddamn it what the fuck

>>716015686
The Australian Federation will rise, brother.

>>716013941
>>716022383
>>716024310
Dustin Browder still inserted himself as one of the "hero" Goliath portraits. The absolute arrogance to insert yourself as one of the coolest original portraits in Brood War when you're some pasty white, bald fatfuck. It's so out of place. This doughboy is not a badass mech pilot.

>>715996423
He's a prisoner outlaw from a biker gang, he can either ride into battle on a fast as fuck bike that lays mines and shoots explosive cannisters or he can go rot in a cell while zerg eat the planet. Hes got a problem with authority. He doesnt like taking orders, but he will, begrudgingly.

>>716025882
>>716024920
You can toggle original graphics for both Starcraft and Diablo remasters
Both remasters are great. Whoever was in charge of them was clearly an oldfag employee that cares a lot

>>716026454
uogh
sex

>>716026454
You can't toggle to offline option

>>716026370
>or he can go rot in a cell while zerg eat the planet.
That's how it is with a lot of Terran units in 1, they're convicts with aggression inhibitors implanted in their brains.

>>716026454
>Both remasters are great.
Eeeh, a lot of the remastered graphics and portraits in Starcraft 1 are misses, but the Valkyrie is the only remastered portrait I like

>>716026671
fitgirl has repacks for both i think, diablo 2 might be outdated though

>>716025893
Why are you arguing against being able to play videogames without being connected to a corporate server?

>>716026769
So don't use Blizzard? Battle.net?

>>716026671
Check Internet Archive for ISOs, mount them with a CD Loader program like virtual clonedrive, and look for a CD-Key online.

not that anon but I found a no install sc + bw on internet archive
may or may not destroy my puter

>>716026923
If you're spooked just scan your computer with malwarebytes after installing it, and then after playing it or whatever.

>>716026923
my old copy that has been on my hard drive since xp days doesn't seem to work any more for some reason, when i launch the colours are all messed up and sometimes the aspect ratio is stretched.
the battle.net one works fine though

>>716023854
>puf-faced ultralisk
>moist queen and muta
>lizard-wolf zergling
>infested terrans having a centipede breathing tube instead of the generic all-the-way-through tentacle
we didn't know how good we had it man.

>>716026914
Cool, but that doesn't let me play my current download of starcraft from Battle.net©

tell me where it hurts /v/ ;D

>>716027261
my peenus weanus of course
haha :D

>>716027238
It's not supposed to because it's not a version from Battle net anon, but it can be played offline without having to log into battle net.

>>715996423
I headcanon that the Vultures you get in the original campaign are the local criminals you conscripted after the the Confederates abandoned you. As opposed to your marines which are your standing colonial milita forces but CANONICALLY resoc'd criminals brainwashed to be cannon fodder.

>>716027397
And i shouldn't have to be connected to the internet to play a game on my computer you stupid nigger

>>715997591
That wife?
Selendis.

anons how do i play SC campaign series without paying?

>>716027481
You really are esl and you lack reading comprehension. I cannot save you from your retarded self. Read it all again several times. Good luck.

>>715996423
WHAT THE FUCK WAS HIS PROBLEM!?

>>716027594
>esl
Says the faggot that answered several questions that no one asked.

>>715998104
Who would win? A player following Starcraft tech trees and logic or a player following Command and ConquerTiberium Dawn tech trees and logic?


Pure gameplay discussion, hell, let's throw in a third player with Age of Empire Tech Trees and Logic.
And yes, 40 HP villager is still 40 HP to a Terrain Marine, Fear the Spanish Supremacy Villager.

so polite
Good boy

>>715997954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZkgXZZVhOU
Was it an inside joke?

>>716027582
if you're going to play it on a camping trip, get the archive.org one
otherwise the battle.net one is free

>>716013941
Goliaths > wtffaggotshit they gave you in 2 melee.

>>716015291
Original Mengsk's portrait made him seem like a nice guy until he betrayed Kerrigan. The new one misses that.
Similar issue with Duran, the new portrait doesn't make him seem sickeningly friendly which defeats the purpose.

>>716027865
>archive.org
call me tech illiterate but this website works as easy as using the search bar for anything i want? Usually i got this kind of link included with the thing i requested

>>716027865
Thanks for the funded opinion

>>715995158 (OP)
Fuck yiu ill kill you post illl fuck this battle this monkey ape gape ill pisss on pussy worms cunt you know i value this scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu no fucking wiyt

>>716022249
Why does every beloved /v/ sci fi game have its roots in anime yet get taken over by people that absolutely loath the stuff?

>>716028028
Angry shill

>>716026730
In the pipe, five by five!

>>716024792
I always interpreted this Zerg as having the most murderous rage.

>>715996721
Because flying attack ground and air and do lots of damage and tanks lots of damage and big cool space ship
Basically they're retarded and don't understand that raynor is meant to send thousands of marines to die by abusing mules. Understand that every, like, fifth partner you get in Co-op will be completely retarded and you'll have to basically solo the mission (something doable on basic brutal for most commanders with even okay play)

>>716025157
What's weird is the original looks more "real" organic than the remaster?

So, anybody tried the zero space demo?
Aside from the whack ass cutscenes and LORE shit, what are the thoughts cause i kinda like it thus far. Wish there was a bit more economic play involved instead of auto harvesting though

>>715998308
I used to fantasize about the zerg doing Very bad things and taking too much advantage of kerrigan's female anatomy when I was a kid and saw her getting captured by them.
Unfortunately the zerg is irredeemably autistic and the Overmind is a waifufag. I can barely lewd the protoss too, nade me really dislike the xel'naga. Who the fuck designs a petting zoo and eunuch greys?!

>>715998496
>recently learns how to add additional units to a hot-keyed group for 30 year old game
Probably the most damning thing I've ever seen to cement Starcraft's place as non sport.

>>715997204
>8 different useless squads of units, just get 12 battlecruisers drag the mouse and go to town
he's talking about sc2 you can select all 200 marines at once, stim and a-move them all to roll over a base

>>715998738
Vulture micro is also fun. Roasting a bunch of lined up lings with Hellions is sort of satisfying, but not very engaging.

>>716028714
I had vaguely similar thoughts then too, but sort of reversed. That after making Kerrigan an important zerg node or whatever, her female anatomical traits would get copied into other zerg strains to use when extracting useful genetic traits from other species.

>>715995889
how do you go from this to this

>>715998738
I actually like the hellion's voice but you're so right about all of the attack sounds. Really I quite like most of the unit voice acting for the units that don't have a sc1 equivalent, like the hellion or viking or banshee, since you can't compare them to their objectively better incarnation like the ghost, dark templar, high templar, vulture, wraith, goliath, and the list could go on all fucking day. scv, marine, zealot, archon, just all of them really.

>>716024920
https://archive.org/details/StarCraftBattleChest

>>716024920
>>716029514
download the torrent, and you can mount the .bin and .cue files as .iso (disk images) in a virtual drive
make physical copies if you want as well.

>>716028714
>>716029021
>Jimmy are those... zerglings? Why do they look like that bitch Sarah Kerrigan? You said those things looked like bugs!
>Cut to Abathur strangling Zagara and trying to drown her in a pool of acid

>>716029921
battle net is big gay and I don't want it

i love you sarge...

>>716015527
Always thought it was a yellow striped helmet or hazmat suit

>>716010207
Even worse

>>716002010
Because battlecruisers won in the end(Iowa class are battlecruisers).

>>716030632
the cutscenes in sc were soul overload

>>716031997
>I GOT YER 'ZERG' RIGHT HERE
psssshttt*CRACK*

>>716023185
this looks like one of those early lcd screens with the shitty refresh rate

>>716031913
>(Iowa class are battlecruisers)
Go make a thread on /k/ and I will meet you there.

>>715995158 (OP)
Most ineffective unit ever

>>716002010
>deals tons of damage
>is fragile as fuck for its size and gets clowned on by 12 dudes with a gun
dunno, I think calling them battlecruisers is very sensible

>>716029921
>trying to get the original game instead of the fucked up version niggzard offers is bad now

>>716032302
>>64011256

>>716032302
I've already told /k/ this at least twice. Iowas are South Dakotas with more gun and more speed with same armor stretched over a longer hull. This makes them battlecruisers.

>>716032662
you mean >>>/k/64011256/

>>716032702
yep, didn't know what was fucked up so I removed the post.
either way, thread is there if he wants to talk about it.

>>716032702
>>>/k/64011256

>>715995158 (OP)
Why is /v/ discussing this goycattle dead game series

>design concussion damage
>forget to apply it to the other races
>design friendly fire on splash damage
>forget to apply it to the other races
>design animations for when a building is producing or researching
>forget to apply it to the other races
>design a race that doesn't have proximity requirements for building
>design maps that don't allow building outside of bases
>design a A2A unit that does splash damage
>make the enemy air unit that spawns tons of little guys immune to said splash damage

>>716007509
Sounds fun!

>>716033557
>dead
lol
lmao

Love this nigga like you wouldn't believe

>>716033907
He's super fun too bad the pure zombie swarm build is annoying to constantly spam bunkers everywhere and that he's got little synergy with most commanders.

>>716013264
I miss his sunglasses.

>>716033907
I mostly played the fat protoss engineer dude, nuking shit from orbit and spamming some cannons while building up a immortal death ball. they got that ridicolous super death cannon ability that can target air, so you don't even need anti air units

>>716033605
>>design friendly fire on splash damage
>>forget to apply it to the other races
What are reavers and infested terrans?

>>716034389
I just prestiged and got back into playing coop after a long, long break from SC2, sometimes I crush on brutal and sometimes it feels hopeless. I'm not sure if it's on a mission by mission basis or if I'm just getting carried.
>>716034716
Karax? He seems like a great turtling option, I like playing with him.

>>716033907
he is fun in hots too. long arm is loooong lol!

>>716034974
>I'm not sure if it's on a mission by mission basis
Some of them are genuinely ballbusting for Stukov if you don't know their specifics or don't have certain powerspike levels
https://starcraft2coop.com/commanders/stukov
Gotta optimize getting broodlings and keeping your infested compound close enough that they never expire then choose mech for breakthroughs
If your ally can solo the early game does make a massive difference so be prepared if your ally dehaka goes rockslapping to waste some minerals on buying infested marines out of the barracks.

>>716022631
>>716024165

>>716034961
you tell me

>>716035450
>If your ally can solo the early game does make a massive difference
Yeah, that's what it feels like. I'm useless early game but once we hit the late game you just need to place the psi-transmitter, occasionally select your barracks and mash A then watch the engine slow down to a halt from all the infested

>>716025182
>those old manuals

Pure SOUL. I wish we could go back to what gaming was in the nineties. We had no idea how good we had it.

>>716035694
strategic uses of infest structure and sometimes an early bunker can carry most early games

>>715995158 (OP)
Terran Dominiond>>>>>>>Confederacy>>>>>>>>>>>Earth Directorate

Monarchy is just too based and correct to ne hel down by pencil pushing bureaucrats.

>>716036423
Do you think there's no bureaucracy in monarchies?

Is it too late to say fuck SC2?

>>716026454
>Both remasters are great
except the sc remaster isn't great at all. The only thing it did was take the game out of the hands of the community to blizzard for them to do absolutely nothing with it. I miss fish server and iccup.

>>716033831
Starcraft hasn't been relevant in over a decade and brood war is kept alive in Korea by autistic boomers

>>716038256
For a game released in 1998 its super fucking alive and has an active scene.

>>716038345
It's tiny compared AoE2

>>716015291
vomit inducing

>>716038993
No. Its not. AoE2 is tiny compared to it. You are either trolling or uninformed

>>715996727
SPEAK UP!

>>716023541
>t I think they're all too well lit.
this. its especially big on ghosts and templar. the dark color added such vibe to it.

>>715998738
bw's sound design mogs sc2 hardcore anon, visual design too - look at wrait's engines, it looks like a proper turbojest or whatever. now look at a viking's engine, literally looks like a wet fart that someone let rip next to a lighter

>>715997954
They're experimenting on criminals in there.

>>716041580
ESPECIALLY the sound design. Just compare something like the ultralisk, the short, impatient, deep snorts of the SC one, it tells you everything what is this unit and what it does, a big fucking battering ram of meat, send it in to facetank an army. Meanwhile, the SC2 one does all these weird burps and farts with way too much filtering and effects on it, like, what the fuck is it even supposed to be?

Lets not even start on shit like protoss voices, how strong and commanding the originals were, and SC2 made them whinging bitches.

I've been using the probe response sound as my email notification and "Receiving incoming transmission" as SMS notification for over a decade now on my phones.

>>716041926
i hear you anon
what's funny is it also makes you play better. in sc2 you have a wave of zerglings, they die and that's it
in scbw you have a wave of zerglings, and you can pretty much count how many/how fast they're dying because their death sounds are very distinct. you dont' have to actively think about "oh let me check the unit panel to see how many units are left", you just hear it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrbN2y5r-vU

>>716002010
Any more questions?

Compare that with Japan, where Battleship was called "Sea Battle" and in turn it's all Space Battleship Yamato, Space Battleship/Aircraft Carrier White Base, etc.

In ur base trolling your overlords. >:3

>>716042318
zweep zweep zweep zweep zweep

>>716042212
That was true for all the original Blizzard games, WC3, SC even Diablo 2 had very distinctive sounds. You could literally close your eyes and still tell how the battle is going, what units and how many of them were participating and how many of them lived. Then its all mush now, a nondescript soundstage of random noise. Literally the only sound from SC2 I liked was the roach squealing as it dies.

I fucking loved the terran attack sounds in SC, everything sounds so meaty and heavy, the marine rifles, the goliath autocannons, the siege tank barrages, the poofy vulture grenades, you really feel you are fucking your enemy up. Also, its really fucking neat how every spell, Plague, Defensive Matrix, etc. had a distinctive noise, so you could always hear it being cast

>>716043178
>You could literally close your eyes and still tell how the battle is going
thank you, that's exactly my point
scbw is my top5 games ever, i don't think we'll ever get the 1995-2005 audiovisual design back, i don't think people who make games are capable of replicating any of it

>>716001114
>>HAHA HE'S RUSSIAN HE'S DRUNK THATS IT THATS THE JOKE LOL
Considering that other troops casually use stimulators and psychotropic drugs it's actually very mild to only drink alcohol.

>>716043178
Now I'm trying to think of any sounds that were re-used in a way that mattered to game clarity. Photon cannons and dragoon shots, I think hydralisk and drone attacks had the same spit attack noise? Did scout missiles and missile turret missiles sound the same?

>>716002010
>Battlecruiser
heavy guns, medium armor, built for fast interception of enemy ships, tactic is to get close fast and bring a full broadside of big guns to bear down on the enemy ship

>Battleship
bigger guns, more guns for anti air defense, heavy armor, built to defend and escort light armored ships, also meant to defend coastline or beachhead for invading ships. also can be used to give coastal heavy artillery support on troops in land

imagine if kerrigan was your yandere stalker

>>716043752
Pointless, because those terms meant different things to every country fielding a navy in the era, reflecting the different strategic situations they were in.

>>716043812
I loved the BW story and it makes me so mad that it will never get continued. SC2 is just a bad fanfiction. The way they blown off the old and vastly superior voice actor of Kerrigan is also super fucking cring.

>>716025893
Hi maldavius fagtree aka, pirate software aka corporate shill/industry plant, we like to be able to play our games we bought with our money without needing a connection.
>muh download
I already bought the starcraft CD in 1998 and therefore already own starcraft.

Stop killing games.

>>716020172
The aesthetics of the protoss in SC1 were fantastic. I hate the direction they got in SC2.

>>716023854
The Zerg portraits in SC1 were fantastic. They looked so weird and grotesque but also plausibly alien at the same time. SC2 Zerg are just way too cartoony.

>>716027712
I feel C&C gets the advantage in most engagements because their best units are the T1 tanks that have performance capable to most RTS factions' mid-game units at least.

>>716043925
true, the original Kerrigan voice was perfect

>>716044186
the entirety of sc2 is cartoony
including the plot

>>716044186
That smile.
That damned smile.

>>716044340
Hehehehehe

>>716020172
artfag here, all the problems are ills of modern art direction, ive put in b&w to make it more clear, in the new one every little corner has to crammed with detal, and everything has to be lit, this creates a "photo taken in a studio look" that takes you out of the world, the old one instead not only has simpler shapes to look at, the strong shadows merge, reducing unnecessary information while at the same time looking like real life, where things are completely obscured sometimes

>>716027712
tanks that fire while moving is so immeasurably strong that alone might give it to them. SC units also would not be able to counter the speed and damage output of C&C air support outside of scourge

>>716043925
SC2 Kerrigam VA sounds like she is about to fall sleep on the recording boot. BW VA was perfect for the Queen Bitch

>>716044445
Remastered defiler looks like pinky

>>716044532
I'm more reminded of this clown deamon thing from spawn.

>>716044186
This. It just had the right amount of cartoony, to not make it comically serious, but otherwise everything in SC was so on point in tone and looks and everything. I loved how it proudly wore its influences from Alien and Starship Troopers on its sleeve and that somehow made it more of a unique thing than trying to hide it.

And its incredible how they managed to have just the right amount of cartoony of WC3 too, despite adding more to it. The artstyle and visuals were just so distinct and fitting. Very stylized yet very believable, not trying to be overtly "realistic" but taking itself very seriously and without any irony poisoning, but still having that lighthearted tone of someone who really enjoyed making it and able to slip in a joke here and there without being forced. Its hard to explain how, like listening to music where every single note and pause is just right on point.

>>716044340
>looks incredibly evil, mysterious, determined, a clear reference to xenomorphs

>>716044445
>DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>716044038
For me it is the og dragoon. I love the look of these things.

>>716025221
man that split camera thing looks so weird

>>716044668
>that scene where some terran hicks destroy a crippled dragoon and a bunch of protoss recall on top of them
now that i think about it, pretty much every bw cutscene is kino

>>716028831
because a professional commentator is a washout? wait until you find out about football

>>716028831
wait what? you just shift click them and reapply the hotkey, right? is that what you mean?
i knew that in fucking 1999, no way he didn't know

>>716044772
Mengsk's inauguration speech is easily the best SC cinematic though.

>>716010991
both ship classes went obsolete before that, so why would it be well known?

(CAG is not a BB)

>>716033907
I like Mengsk very very much. And Swann - having a mech stomp is always good.

>>715996940
Starcraft 2 sucked enough and Blizzard is getting worse each year.

>>716045123
>Starcraft 2 sucked enough
Why?

Anyone played the demo missions of Starcraft 1? Back in the day I found them to be very fucking serious and build up the Zergs as a huge menace.
>>716044971
Sure but nothing beats Cold Fusion and the Brood War opening.

>>716023854
>>716044186
The zerg also just look way to mean and bug like. SC1 the zerg do look much more like the weird chimera abominations they are supposed to be. SC1 sprites as well also have a weird rubbery/latex look to them that makes them oddly feel more realistic or like from a movie. SC2 are way to mean and bug looking which isn't what the zerg are.
Also funny how you bring up irony because I think that's another point in how irony is used. SC2 I feel used to much irony in general. Case in point with >>715995889 how they just make him a complete drunk instead of just lightly hinting at it like in SC1. Zerg in SC1 had just the right amount and most of it was done in the music. Zerg 1 is this weird industrial metal with random bits of drills and machinery going off and then Zerg 2 comes and it uses a thermin giving a classic alien invasion movie feel to it.

>>716044394
Not (entirely) related, but black and white reminded me to glance through the manual again. It's full of concept art by Metzen and Samwise for things, they're all also crammed full of details that wouldn't have been feasible in 3D for cutscenes or unit models. Layers upon layers, spikes everywhere, cloth, tubes. A lot of work had to go into taking these ideas and making them actually work for the game and the people who were doing that seem to have had better aesthetic sensibilities than the ones who went on to make SC2.
The concept art is cool, but it doesn't feel like Starcraft.

>>716044340
I always thought this was a profile angle and it had a long snout ending in a nose toward the top right. I still can't unsee it.
>>716044445
I know I'm probably in the wrong but I can't imagine this retarded thing as anything other than the remastered artist's misinterpretation of the original icon.

>>716045398 (Me)
And the 40k "influence" feels very strong in some of it.

>>716045184
The thing people don't understand about the evolution of the Blizzard RTS games is how they evolved and improved between each one. SC1 wasn't just them going "Lets make a scifi RTS!" because they where literally doing that when players said it was garbage. They then scraped the entire thing and went in with a new mindset of what needs to improve and experimenting with new concepts. WC3 was the same thing where they came in with a "What did work, and what new things could work or we could try?" If you look at the development of SC2 though they did not have that mindset. They started off remaking SC1 in their new engine and then slowly making minor adjustments because they didn't want to make the game too different from the original. They didn't want to actually do something new or to really try and fix that many of the major issues SC1 or WC3 had, the goal was to try and copy it as much as they could.

>>716045398
>>716045623
Holy SOVL

>>716015291
why did they raceswap duran from east- to west african?

>>716007509
Ohh yeah

>>716045398
yeah, over detailing is only a sin in the modern way of "put a line in there" for any surface, without adding meaning, mostly because its not human behavior, its not how humans like to decorate things, real humans would do something like >>716045623 full of corny writing

>>716045605
It was always a jaw anon, it's drooling acid slime and chattering. The remaster utterly fucked it by showing too much though, it worked because it was a dark shape that fit a weird poison sprewing wiggler

>Listen to some of the old voiceline
>They didn't sound as epic as they sounded in my memory

Bwos...

>>716045962
Oh I know, I mean I didn't see the other eye on the right and I thought that was where its nose would be and that the head is facing directly to the right. It still has an obviously huge maw with a big underbite.

>>716046197
Your taste has gotten worse over the years. Sorry that you had to find out this way.

>>716045675
How does that make the game suck though?

>>716045675
>WC3 was the same thing where they came in with a "What did work, and what new things could work or we could try?"
That's absolute bollocks, anon. WC3 was being made as a completely different game and they just scrapped it and redid it as a much, much more bog-standard RTS in the end. Many of the main design decisions were absolutely last-minute changes, like the addition of upkeep (suggested by WoW artists) to stop the game from being a WC2-style spamfest.

>>716045184
>poor balance
>years of stale meta
>Too many gimmick abilities
>full priced expansions
>story sucked and ruined a lot of characters
I actually really liked WoL when it first came out all issued aside, but heart of the swarm practically killed my interest in the series.

>>716046453
>and they just scrapped it and redid it as a much, much more bog-standard RTS in the end
it'd be more accurate to say they split it, and put the RPG stuff into WOW and the RTS into WC3

>>716046263
Oh shit, I see what you mean now. I still like it being weird and skeletal but your way gives it more of a threatening wolflike silhouette that's pretty good.

>>716045184
>gameplay is shit
>story is shit
>visuals are shit
>artstyle is shit
>even sounds are shit

Gee, I wonder why.

>>716044668
I love how it feels "real" like this is an actual thing, made by actual people somewhere, like you are looking to a tank from a foreign country and all those greebles have a technological or design reason to b there and the pattern painted on it is meaningful to that culture. IDK how to really convey it but it somehow just makes sense.

>>716046552
If you're primarily concerned with the 1v1 ranked ladder experience (I don't care for it at all) then I can understand frustration with balance issues or stales metas. I just think it's crazy that people say the game 'sucks' even though the campaigns are great, it has a variety of custom games, co-op, modified custom campaigns galore and a pretty good engine to boot. If SC2 sucks then 99% of RTS games must be considered absolutely unplayable garbage tier.

>>716047056
>he doesn't know about people crashing the custom game list

>>716033907
I've come around to stettman
the super duper gary is legitimately OP if you can manage your stettzones

>>716047056
>If SC2 sucks then 99% of RTS games must be considered absolutely unplayable garbage tier.
Yeah? Any RTS fan knows this deep in their bones.

>>716046606
No, WoW was being worked on at the same time.
Ironically WoW had much more impact on WC3 than vice versa, at least from Adham's account of the events.
Which in a way does make sense. WC3 was, ultimately, a failed project which had to scrap everything but engine and assets late in development. WoW had the right idea from the get-go.

>>716043812
what the fuck did the overmind see in her?

>>715997954
>testicular torsion tower

>>716010991

>>716011367
>>716044962

bro was actually wrong in all possible ways lmao
lmfoaing @ ur brain

>>716044584
Its called "The Violator™"

>In the pipe 5"x5"
Fucking whore

>>716028160
SC1 is full of references to all kinds of scifi, not just anime

The Yamato is loaded....and so am I

>>716043812
Did she really have to be naked in SC2?

>unit called Scout
>sucks at scouting because it's slow as molasses

>>716052683
It's also blind and needs a vision upgrade

>>716023303
why are SC1 psistorms ass-ripping crackles of doom that instagib entire armies while SC2 are extremely anemic in all departments?

>>716052391
What stupid question is that. Question.

>>716052683
the lore reason was something like the thing being a scout not even meant for combat, but protoss shit is overpowered that it can go toe-to-toe with the dedicated terran fighters anyway

>>716052735
One sounds like a storm while the other sounds like someone taking a shower

>>716052391
You can see her nipples in her Ghost wireframe in Brood War, so yes, she has to be naked because it's canon.

>>716053935
Pic related. Which the HD remaster changed, of course.

>>716054113
My dick is through the roof

>>716052683
>Probe is actually used as a probe tho and pretty good at it

>>716045184
>take super gritty and dark aesthetic
>make it look like kids' cartoons and toys
I'm still mad

>>715995158 (OP)
Why did Battle Aces fail bros? I realise that they couldn't figure out monetisation but I was having a lot of fun with that game. Wouldn't a 7-8 dollar box price work?

>>716005670
no they just need to make arbiter spells more expensive. one arbiter can take out half an army or warp in a whole army for hardly any cost in comparison

>>716055160
They cut their losses. They're unwilling to release it straight-up and keep maintaining it. They wanted to sell units or they don't see a financial path for profit, I guess. Basically, bunch of faggots.

>>716055160
No one wants to play David Kim's distilled slop. His ideas for evolving the genre are basically removing all the gameplay elements besides clicking units around.

>>716055613
It's not a SC2 successor but it was fun to play for a couple hours a week. Would've preferred to see Battle Aces live than Stormgate for sure.

I liked that it was willing to discard most of the macro aspects since that gave it an identity and felt like it'd be good for new RTS players and it had an arcade-y feel to it that was nice. The microtransaction bullshit is just a non-starter for a competitive audience, though, and they didn't sufficiently address it across all the betas so interest waned up until the last one where nearly nobody played it.

>>716044868
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zK6lK7ukWFo
4 years ago but yeah

>>716032302
Christ he actually did.

>>716026454
>portrait winks
>immediately feels butterflies in my belly
It’s insane how much power women have over men.

>>716001219
>nu-vulture pilot wears goggles even though the portrait animation clearly shows his glasses sliding off and him pushing them back

>>716046940
you mean verisimilitude, "the appearance of being true or real."

a thing that has a lot of verisimilitude seems to be a faithful reproduction of the real thing.

>>716046345
>yeah but how does that affect you personally?

>>716014103
It's so true. Compare Brood War's intro to any of the SC2 intros and it like night and day. There's no grit, no balls. Something like Battle on the Amerigo has more soul in it's runtime than a trilogy of games that couldn't bother to come up with a story beyond (SURPRISE) a big bad arrives and Kerrigan has to save everyone.

>>716001384
(Yyyyyyyyouuuuuu)?

>>716059891
Ah, you mean sovl

>>716060124
old star craft was nerds trying to imitate the cool movies they liked.

new star craft (and videogames in general) are theatre kids trying to imitate the movie directors they wish that they were.

it's the classic "writer who doesn't write anything" that you get in literature. people who want to be creative types, but who aren't actually creative.

>>716060105
Not the same line of questioning

>Here's your medic for today anon!
>It's a dumb blonde chick
Oh no...

>>716015291
>duke isn't actually wearing a hawaiian shirt
Huh. You learn something new every day.

>>716044687
Makes him look like a Rayman creature

>>716018656
why are modern artists so afraid of contrast? LCD era to blame?

>>716064751
Managers nagging them on to be "safe" and "clean" and "approachable". Basically, they are just afraid of losing sales by not looking heckin wholesome.

>>716020172
>old cgi render
>copious amounts of soul
How did devs get it so right on their first try? And why is everything modern just an endless regression?

>>716044868
>>716058547
That video's not about shift-clicking but rather shift-number to add two groups without any clicking at all

>>716065087
We're living in the kali yuga, the raganarok, the twilight of the idols. It's okay anon dont stress too much about it. Don't be sad it's over, be glad it happened

>>716065087
Better lighting. Better textures. More ambigous, so it lets your brain work a bit interpreting things

>>716061506
>dumb blonde
Jewish meme. You are delusional if you think a woman of Nordic ascendancy is dumber than any brown chick.

>>716020172
holy marvel pose on the right.

>>716033557
Because they can discuss games while you can only spew buzzwords.

>>716015291
Remaster fucked up almost every portrait, but it did most of the tilesets extremely well. The unit/building sprites are a mixed bag honestly. The artwork was mostly a wash as well. When I replayed SC1 I just turned off the remastered graphics because it was overall worse. In contrast, the C&C1 remaster was almost perfect.

>>715995158 (OP)
>flies your most expensive asset into a 3-way Psi-Storm trap
>slow ass takes max damage as it can't get out of storm quickly
yeah I'll stick with my wraiths

>>716046453
>much, much more bog-standard RTS in the end
Nothing about WC3 is bog standard, it's one of the more innovative games in the genre. And its a shame that it lead to absolutely nothing, these days every RTS is just a Starcraft, C&C, or Supcom clone.

>>716002010
Battleships are as common as battlecruisers as space ships. Sometimes these terms are used as synonyms

>>715995158 (OP)
recently replayed starcraft after like more than 20 years. When i was a retarded kid the game was reallly challenging for me but still managed to beat it except for that Enslavers campaing, that shit was insanely hard, i still have PTSD from that torrasque mission...

Nowdays, i finally learned to play with the keyboard shortcuts, it's unreal how easy the game becomes when you use them. Can't believe my desk wageslave job taught me to play starcraft correctly... I still remember how i used to believe high templars were useless, now i used a lot of them in my play thoughs

Btw , im about to play broodwar for first time. I only had the base game disk back in the day

>>716067958
Brood War campaign absolutely holds up. Its even weird how good it was compared to other RTS campaigns in 1999 with their excuse plots and simplistic objectives.

>>715998308
It's funny that this might be the one recorded instance ever of taking a black/brown person and making them white and hot

>>716025157
>>716023854
I prefer double trunk version because it looks like Anomalocaris

>>716067958
>playing BW for the first time 20 years later.
Kek that's crazy. I feel like everyone just had BW by default. BW is great and more of the same. But there is a comfiness to the original campaign that can never be matched. Also BW's campaign is a solid step up in challenge IIRC.

>>716042150
Hydralisk hatching sound will always be my text noise.
ALWAYS.

Attention all SC1 fans who claim to have the memory of all units etched into your mind: doesn't this guy's shart sound exactly like an overlord emerging from a cocoon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrbCQr5C_LE

Linking to literal shit? Is this a jeet post? Since when did they know about SC1?

>>716001027
At like minute 20 when it doesn't matter anyway. Very, very few Raynor players can play P3 decently enough to have an acceptable early game. Mengsk BCs are much more viable.

>>715995158 (OP)
MY WIFE FOR AIUR

ALL CREWS REPORTING

>>716026370
its bikers from Full Throttle

>>716025182
I think it's wicked that colours actually mean something in SC and WC

>>716060124
>whats you got for me billie ray?
>damn you look ugly

OUTSTANDING thread.

This channel keeps my love for SC and WC3 going https://youtu.be/rw0hQNmYvyw?si=nHX4T9BoWxesPGbX

>>716031913
They are in fact fast battleships

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_battleship

>>715996940
Being made by Koreans currently iirc.

>Open the rare SC thread
>Just a fucking bad looking vs good looking thread

>>716081317
Bake a new one

In the Pie Bye Bye Bye

>>716067958
>used to believe high templars were useless, now i used a lot of them in my play thoughs
(you) me when you realize how good putting reavers into shuttles is

>>716081073
Nexon got the bid.

>>716044340
>>716044445
He cute!

>>716049620
Yes, I know, so was Halo.
The point is more that the original creators were obviously nerds and then normalfags ruined the series.

my favorite ums maps are:
atomic madness
elements rpg
test of survival

>>716044416
>>716044189
I think CnC base building is faster too but doesn't scale as efficiently. Also resource acquisition usually comes down to 1-2 trucks per mineral/tiberium field.
On the other hand cnc has uncapped unit numbers and engineers would be a nightmare for literally any other RTS player in the game.

>>716015291
I still can't see original Mengsk as anything but wearing red headphones over his right ear
Gave him proper "I am personally running this rebel militia" rather than just "haha I've got a not!nazi flag right behind me"

>>715997464
>think he's the coolest guy ever as a kid
>looks like a caveman with a unibrow

>>716044889
The Brood War opening has a special place in my heart. Big reason why Alexi and Dugalle are my favorite characters despite being evil as fuck.

>>716083773
Where do you get headphones that comically big

>>716083483
>atomic madness
Haven't played this one.
>elements rpg
Classic.
>test of survival
More like Test of Patience.

>>716045623
I miss decal Marines.
Only UED forces should be proper military.

>>716049569
5x5 just means i can hear you loud and clear over the radio, 5 bars of reception as it were

>>716084181
I think atomic madness didn't gain popularity because it showed up when hydra rancher was really big. you have a bunker and use a civ to pick a unit to spawn, and have to defeat other players' bunkers. it was fun making massive muta bombs

Virgin zerg
>the hive cluster is under Attack!!!!
Virgin terran
> your base is under attack!!!!!
Chadtoss Psistormcock
>Your warriors have engaged the enemy.

>>716084416
I did play a good amount of Madness maps. The one I ended up gravitating towards the most was Golems since there were a lot of interesting things to do with currency combos, and Hydra Rancher type games were pretty fun too.

>>716084136
dunno, og proportions were a bit goofy at times so it didn't seem all that wrong for something like picrel to be even bigger than usual, on top of being at a weird angle due to having only one ear covered

>>715998738
Yeah, zerglings chewing at your depo with adrenal glands in sc2 sound like a group of chihuahuas throwing tomatoes at you. Sc1 zerglings with adrenal glands chewing your depo sound like you are about to get your shit pushed in. All the zerg units have a personality even if they are just grunting. Amazing sound design

>>716044445
Did they downgrade to live2d for this? The entire point of the portraits was supposed to be prerendered 3d models.

>>716054113
I think the female ghosts have better equipment....

>>716084932
They've published a 2K version of the new Wraith portrait somewhere, and you can see they painted over the old one.

>>716081317
This is one of the few places on the internet where most people agree the old graphics look better, let us have this.

>>716027347
turn your head and cough

>>716065435
I'll say it: RTS never should have moved beyond sprites and voxels.

>>716067958
>Order Jimmy to gun down civilians
Oh YEAAAH !!!


What was his problem?

>>716085356
Things were better when I had no idea what the fuck I was looking at and my mind filled in the blanks.

>>716085432
>play Terran campaign
>get to Installation mission
>it's mostly just Raynor and his crew slaughtering literal civilians and SCVs with no comment

Remember those murder mystery custom maps where one person controlled a dark Templar and you were like in a school setting. That was the original among us

>>716085630
Yes, Who Is The Killer maps, which there were a ton of, all themed for whatever the mapmaker felt like. Maybe you played a DBZ themed one, maybe you played a FF7 themed one.

>>716085617
Installation Mission
>Slaughter Civilians
Next Mission
>Assassinate leaders, start civil war
Next Mission
>Call the Zerg to slaughter the planet
Next Mission
>Destroy planet's defenses... so you can use Zerg again
Next Mission
>Kill Protoss trying to stop you from using Zerg on Civilians

...Are we the baddies?

>>716085630
I only played the WC3 Version: Murder at the Mansion, loved the ost for that, couldn't remember what the song was form though.

>>716085717
Also in that vein were the Hostage Negotiation maps that got popular after 9/11 where there'd be a SWAT side, a terrorist side and hostages. The terrorists would trade hostages to the SWAT to try to get strong enough to win, there were a bunch of things to do in the terrorist base for hostages, people got pretty creative. And most games were shit but the fun ones were really fun.

>>716085630
The The Thing ones were even closer, where everyone was a civilian and one person could change their unit into a zergling and back to normal. Usually on either the installation or outdoor snow tileset, with triggers spaced around that would activate turrets or traps or whatever.

So we all agree that the Alpha Sqaudron Lieutenant you play as in the Demo Campaign is obviously Duran right?

>>716085992
I remember both of those maps. The one on the installation tileset was less in-depth and more like the Who Is The Killer maps. The one on the snow tileset was really good. It was one of the first types of adventure maps where you ran around picking items up to use and managing resources with a long-term goal of completing a bunch of stuff on the map, while one player was The Thing running around trying to kill everybody. That map is probably one of the greatest Starcraft maps ever made, it's a shame I haven't seen it hosted in 20 years.

>>716041926
>Lets not even start on shit like protoss voices
btw did you know protoss were egyptian? forget about uncanny cute duck faced aliens and just think EGYPTIAN

>>716085991
I'm surprised more Indies didn't just copy more SC/WC3 maps for game ideas, considering games like "dig a hole" with basic graphics can make money, you'd think a party game like hostage exchange would be perfect streamer bait.

>>716054113
>it's true
HOLY FUCK

>>716086305
Quite a few did, really, or turned them into Flash games at the time, which had its own ecosystem. And a surprising amount of standalone games today came from WC3 maps, mostly tower defense games but still cool.

>>716060124
Legacy of the Void intro is kino. The story is shit. But the intro is kino.
WoL campaign is one of the best rts campaigns ever and the best SC campaign by a mile

>>716085630
Not those, but I remember a ton of other custom maps. The golden era, all the fun shit people made.

>>716045623
This one is literally just someone’s fanart of their 40k figure.

>Panzer_Kavalier map
Oh yeah, it's gaming time.

>>716044038
The aesthetics of the Terran and Zerg aren't much better.
I mean, Tychus is cool but Terrans became too clean, too neat.
Zerg just stopped being scary.

>>715996721
mass BCs = instant win

>>716086183
God it's been so long I forgot how good the outdoor one was. You'd go and pick up some explosives in a corner of the map to come back and open a door with weapons inside to fight back against the Thing, right? And there was a flamethrower somewhere that'd let you be a firebat?

>>716054819
sex with probes

>>716086570
I miss the Samwise/Metzen era of character art for Warcraft and Starcraft. I think that translated into early 3d programs was peak style.
>>716044668
>>716044772
In the developer commentary on the dvd, apparently the devs hated the animation test dance so much that they put the guy into the cutscene just so that the Dragoons could murder him.
Broodwar's final cinematic was also apparently just every animator doing their own thing and getting their stuff put together as a collage for a big send off to starcraft.

>>716086845
Yeah man. If my 20 year old memory serves there was a section that was exploding that you had to cut the power to. And if I remember right the survival mechanic was Heat, so you needed enough supplies after cutting the power to survive in cold conditions for a while. It was a hell of a fucking map.

>>716015291
*Mostly* right. High templars and ghosts took a hit to the soul, and some of the protoss feel a bit more generic because Blizzard wanted them to look more cohesive. It's like a 95% affair

>>716016151
Not if you push out yourself (without cheats). It's a tight race to destroy everything before the countdown's over

>>716087131
I used Black Sheep Wall to make sure I destroyed everything so I could AFK for the rest of it.

>>716015291
first 3 i think are bad
last 4 i think are fine
kerrigan specifically is a huge glowup but i don't like the new outfit as much, i always thought starcraft tech was all jury rigged together and shit, but her new portrait is clean and pristine, she looks as clean as those sc2 LotV robot-toss things w/e the fuck they were called, you know

>>716025221
i always get second hand embarrassment when i see people making fun of someone for being a retard, but they're such a drooling mongoloid they're recording a video

>>716059296
>It’s insane how much power women have over lesser men.
ftfy

>>716088361
she's a german dom, we're all lesser to her

>>716089227
whatever helps you cope

>>716067958
back in the day, in my eyes, Raynor looked something like picrel, Starcraft II Raynor was unrecognizable for me given this.. Still happens with remastered raynor btw

>>716065441
calm down

>>716016438
I wanted to like SC2. I really didn't. But you can't recreate Starcraft. It's lightning in a bottle. They didn't set out to make a fun game with SC2. They wanted to make an e-sport from the get-go and that fucked up everything. They took the story in the most awful, generic direction possible. The artsyle is worse. They took out everything that made it unique in favor of big blocky colorful shapes. And on top of all, they pre-annonounced two expansions and still couldn't save this mess.

>>716090461
>It's lightning in a bottle.
It's true. If you read interviews with the developers, they'll say the exact same shit. They slammed hacky solutions after hacky solutions and the final result was a game with so much more depth than they ever could have even dreamed of intentionally making.

Why do people pretend like brood war is balanced in anyway? It's only technically so at very very very high level because there it just becomes a hand diff issue with how hard it is to control units. But from beginner until semi pro level the game is just kind of a mess.

>>716091037
There are tons of imbalances on a match-up basis, every match-up is imbalanced, in PvZ, P has to win on timing attacks or they lose most of the time, in TvZ, T has to win on timing attacks or they lose most of the time, in TvP, T has to win on timing attacks or they lose most of the time. Statistically you're absolutely right. The only argument is all of that is framed in the context of one of the hardest games there is to play, so the better player usually wins anyway, and there are also plenty of stats to back that up.

>>716091379
z is simply the best race, this isn't unfair, it's just nature running its course

>>716091649
Soulkey recently sure makes me think that. This man is doing early-game all-ins where if he fails it's still an even game.

>>716091649
I've been a lover of zerg since I'd watch yellow way back in the day

My favorite zerg is Savior. The man basically invented 3 Hatch play.

>>716091836
everyone's pretty much always said zerg's the best race but the apm requirement on the players is just way too high for most players to be able to keep up at end game
when are we getting 12,000 apm robots doing an all races tourney so we can put the subject to rest for good

Sc2 was basically all i played for the last 10+ years because I only had a macbook pro. I had a lot of fun but I just built a nice new pc and I am happy to be free...

>>716016151
>Cheats
you didn't beat the game

>>716092785
I'm laughing every time I get a reply to this post so I'll consider my own game won here.

>>716016151
This mission filtered me as a 9yo kid

>>716092970
Me too. Most of the campaign missions did, because I was really bad at multitasking and macro. I did like the missions where got units ahead of time and played those enough to beat them without cheats. I was a shitter that just played UMS and couldn't play the actual game at all for a while, but I did learn a bit eventually.

I havent played starcraft in years but I keep up with the tourneys just because artosis casts them so I just watch him commentate them :D
I love him always seething about protoss even when casting

What's your favorite arcade game?

For me, it's direct strike

For me, it's Terran Theme 1:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD4GbGmvNRc

>that Diablo 1 sounding part that begins at 3:10

>>716016151
I remember watching my dad play this mission back in 1998. He was deciding on where to place the machine shop add-on and when he picked a spot was like wait.. who's going to go build it? The FACTORY?! - as we noticed and watched in amazement the factory flying over to the spot. Didn't even know buildings could lift off until then

>>716093248
I always loved Sand Castle Wars which is the first map I can remember playing like this. Desert Strike Night on Brood War was a popular variant made shortly before Starcraft 2 was released, that one is my favorite of that type of map. My favorite overall is the detailed strategy maps with unit spawns and bases and two teams against each other, but the problem with those games has always been needing too many good players for a map to function properly in a small community. They're often 6-8 player maps where every player needs to know what they're doing so it's hard to get a game going well and egos get bruised easily.

>>716093202
tastosis is still goated
that said their coverage of the tournaments post artosis moving feels like it's a lot more analytical and nostalgic, maybe it's a side effect of being on literal opposite ends of the earth, ping-wise, but it feels like it's missing out on a lot of the silly banter they had in person. maybe that's just me

>>716093536
naw it's not just you. there's definitely a difference between them sitting next to each other and them stream casting

>>716030632
>>716031997
>>716032047
thank gawd for cold fusion

>>716093815
Their casts are a lot worse now and it's exactly because of the latency. They have to pause after they say everything to make sure they're not overtalking each other. They've linked up occasionally since Artosis moved and live cast difference is night and day. You just can't banter the same way.

>>716016151
>Cheats
Holy sovl

>>716024792
I realized that overlord is just an oversized fly

Pesteling gf. Yay or nay?

>>716010798
>his
I don't remember him taking out his wallet and paying 75 minerals for his shitty bike

>>716015686
>Terran Dominion proved much more stronger than Earth
>UED literally wiped the floor with the Arcuckrus and his cronies, and would've been executed if not for BASEDnor and the protoss saving their asses
>UED mind rapes and sissifies the overmind
>Leaves the protoss alone, they don't matter in the grand schemes of things orchestrated by the UED
>Protoss niggers united with the consort of the zergs and Raynor's chimps to btfo together the UED

>>716084075
I never picked up on the implication they lured Zerg to the colony. "Dissecting a dead Zerg in a lab is one thing, but unleashing them on men is another." That intro though is right out of Apocalypse Now with the bridge and Christmas lights, complete with a PTSD'd dude whose good with a grenade launcher.

>>715996423
he's trying to get on your nerves by misgendering you

>>716093512
for me, it's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve6RdW8qjTw

>>716086978
The Ascension was extremely kino. Down to the last detail of Brood War Aria's leitmotif playing with the marine from the intro looking up at the Alexander where DuGalle and Stukov watched the colonial militia die to the Zerg. Also the marine dropping his gauss rifle and embracing the nuke explosion is a timeless pose in media when a dude knows he's about to be obliterated. The dark mood of it was pure unfiltered Starcraft.

>>716076649
Blizzard had an obsession with minor factions and heraldry in Warcraft 2 and Starcraft. There was a noticeable decline in interest starting in Warcraft 3's human campaign, where Arthas and co. are blue instead of Lordaeron's white color from 2.

GAWR GURA

>>716067958
A lot of the missions in 1 are tutorials, Brood War is when they will start to challenge your skills a bit more, but are very beatable.

>>716098990
>His wife for hire

>>716077262
>Rock and roll!

>>716099376
heheheh

I remember a long ass time ago reading the star craft wikia and looking at the magistrate page in particular (I think) and it had a manga panel of a bunch of anime girls in a pool. The subtext for the image was like "family members of the magistrate gather at a summer party" and it was a surreal feel knowing ywn be a pool party with qt southern accent anime girls and just chilling in the summer

>>716098895
Also liked how they treated you as a character in the game for a little while.

>>716060124
>amerigo
using the ice on the nuke container as an excuse to shove beers in was peak

>>716103040
Thank God for cold fusion.

You called down the bump limit
Now reap the ARCHIVED