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Anonymous No.716002773 >>716002957 >>716003275 >>716003354 >>716003403 >>716006617 >>716007117 >>716007901 >>716008057 >>716008068 >>716010257 >>716010373 >>716010624 >>716012990 >>716014718 >>716018878 >>716019279 >>716019763 >>716024187 >>716027827 >>716028078 >>716028085 >>716040015 >>716041841 >>716042137 >>716042245 >>716042648 >>716042770 >>716043809 >>716044143 >>716049008 >>716049371 >>716051598 >>716056713 >>716057241 >>716057415
>Japanese game
>the corporations are evil
Anonymous No.716002957 >>716003220 >>716007819 >>716010163 >>716010225 >>716010301 >>716014910 >>716018867 >>716019789 >>716023748 >>716027643 >>716031378 >>716031595 >>716044115 >>716053521 >>716056891 >>716057041 >>716057052
>>716002773 (OP)
What game has actually good corporations
Anonymous No.716003080
Just put the popcorn in the bag Robert, I've got a kino to watch.
Anonymous No.716003220 >>716046646
>>716002957
All Dragon Ball games (Capsule Corp)
Anonymous No.716003275
>>716002773 (OP)
Nigger
Anonymous No.716003354
>>716002773 (OP)
and? they are a driving force behind diversity and mass immigration
Anonymous No.716003403
>>716002773 (OP)
Robert I like you but I don't want unsolicited video game opinions. Please just get me my bucket of crab legs so I can see superman
Anonymous No.716003650
I've never been to the kinoplex...
Anonymous No.716006617
>>716002773 (OP)
How are the wife and children doing Robert? I'll take the usual.
Anonymous No.716007117 >>716015010
>>716002773 (OP)
>japanese game
>america and god work together and are evil
Anonymous No.716007819
>>716002957
Call of duty
Anonymous No.716007901
>>716002773 (OP)
I just want the ticket Robert, is that too much?
Anonymous No.716008057
>>716002773 (OP)
So, like in real life?
Anonymous No.716008068
>>716002773 (OP)
>the corporation who made the game is also evil
Anonymous No.716010163
>>716002957
Megaman though :3
Anonymous No.716010225 >>716039687
>>716002957
Anonymous No.716010257
>>716002773 (OP)
That's because Japs can't tell an actual story. They can make a good game but always fail at storytelling, with Euros the inverse is true
Anonymous No.716010301 >>716012903 >>716051341
>>716002957
Didn't Human Revolution have you working for a corporation and unlike with UNATCO you actually stick with them and they don't turn out to be evil?
Anonymous No.716010373
>>716002773 (OP)
Sorry Robert, I thought this was the line for Snow Dogs (2002).
Anonymous No.716010624
>>716002773 (OP)
Corporations are evil.
But so are governments and any form of organized group with power.
A group of people with power just turn into an t-rex, and all you can do is pit it against other t-rexes, and/or make em play a game of "you win if you serve the public", and they will keep trying to cheat your game.
Anonymous No.716012903
>>716010301
Sarif is actually aware of and fighting the Illuminati and personally tells off lucius debeers. He is slimy and shifty, but as far as Deus Ex goes, he is unambiguously one of the good guys.
Anonymous No.716012990
>>716002773 (OP)
Just like real life
Anonymous No.716014718
>>716002773 (OP)
Yet Japs worship the fuck out of them.
Anonymous No.716014910 >>716023086 >>716023176 >>716027492
>>716002957
Real life.
Anonymous No.716015010 >>716015323 >>716019375
>>716007117
>evil
Anonymous No.716015323 >>716019375
>>716015010
Anonymous No.716018504 >>716051445
>game
>religion is evil
I think the only game that isn't based on a book like Warhammer that doesn't pull this trope might be Dishonored 2's Abbey of the Everyman. Not 1's though.
Anonymous No.716018853 >>716031494
What's more jarring is when people portray corporations as brave. They are staffed with merchants and bean-counters. They lack thumos. They are primarily interested in their own pocketbooks and extracting as much value from the corporation as is possible, and are not inclined towards confrontation or daring. They inhabit a world of profit and loss and careful accumulation.
Anonymous No.716018867
>>716002957
Armored Core
Anonymous No.716018878
>>716002773 (OP)
Robert, I...
Anonymous No.716019279
>>716002773 (OP)
Robert, my friend, it's been a while. How you been?
Anonymous No.716019375
>>716015010
>>716015323
I feel like I can trust this man.
Anonymous No.716019524 >>716019706
I've been here for a decade and a half and I've never seen Kung Pow
Anonymous No.716019706
>>716019524
you're not missing anything
Anonymous No.716019763 >>716020145
>>716002773 (OP)
The only "good" corporations are non-profits, change my mind
Anonymous No.716019789
>>716002957
Super Robot Wars T
Anonymous No.716020145
>>716019763
Non-profits are all scams.
Anonymous No.716023086
>>716014910
>Alphabet, Amazon and all these techbro corporations undermining society for a buck are good

Yeah no.
Anonymous No.716023176 >>716027760 >>716051521
>>716014910
Ok, Peter Thiel
Anonymous No.716023428 >>716024248 >>716031547
>Japanese game
>there is a massive religious cult that secretly controls the country
Anonymous No.716023748
>>716002957
Pokemon, the only corporation that is shown to be rotten to the root is Lysandre Labs in gen 6, Aether Paradise in gen 7 and MacroCosmos in gen 8 are shown to be mostly good corporations that have been led astray by small factions within.
There's also a bunch of corpos in gen 8 that are just there for pokejobs and seem pretty harmless.
Anonymous No.716024187
>>716002773 (OP)
Yeah, someone's gotta be evil.
The corporations are evil. The church is evil. The non-conformists are evil. The foreigners are evil. The ancient evil is evil. Take your pick
Anonymous No.716024248
>>716023428
Evil religious cults in JRPGs are never secret, they're usually big political powers and operate openly.
Anonymous No.716026627 >>716027654 >>716035078 >>716035992 >>716038076 >>716042909 >>716051152 >>716051250
>God is Evil
>Church is Evil
>Corporations are Evil
>Goverment is Evil
>Society is Evil
>(You) are Evil
Which is the best and worst one
Anonymous No.716027492
>>716014910
oy vey
Anonymous No.716027643
>>716002957
Segagaga
Anonymous No.716027654
>>716026627
>God is evil
occasionally cool in the context of there being multiple gods or the "gods" aren't actually all that powerful but generally pretty lame
>church is evil
so unbelievably played out, easily the worst and most boring trope. In in settings where the church isn't explicitly the evil big bad, they'll still have enemies with christian inspired aesthetics
>corporations are evil
I like a good cyberpunk dystopian setting where the corporations are above the law. They're like a straight up big bad, but with realistically relatable motivations.
>government is evil
also kind of played out, can be good, but is terrible when the devs are trying to force some gay political message into it
>(You) are Evil
easily the best, everyone loves playing as the villain. The only problem is game devs are hacks and have a hard time writing a story around it, but otherwise most every game that makes you the explicit bad guy is fun
Anonymous No.716027760 >>716028657 >>716031234
>>716023176
>muh ai killed all these people
denying coverage isn't death, plenty of other companies exist, government options exist, and you can always just get a loan and take on medical debt if it will actually kill you. It's such a low IQ arguement, I'm not suprised to see a non in the pfp
Anonymous No.716027827 >>716028027
>>716002773 (OP)
>Japanese game
>The kind older character who took you in at the start of the game is actually evil
Anonymous No.716028027
>>716027827
>The kind older character who took you in at the start of the game is actually evil
>but wait he's actually not evil
>you're the one who's evil
>but also not evil
>but also evil
Anonymous No.716028078
>>716002773 (OP)
>japanese game
>technology is le bad, nature is le good, god is le bad. anyone over 18 is le bad
Anonymous No.716028085
>>716002773 (OP)
Haha, Robert! That's not every Japanese game and you know it! Thanks for vouching for my singles ticket today. My usual crab legs, please. Are the wife and kids doing well?
Anonymous No.716028657 >>716037971
>>716027760
Which company will let you sign health insurance when you have severe health issues? Which bank will give loans to people with severe health issues?
Anonymous No.716031234 >>716037971
>>716027760
>denying coverage isn't death
The whole reason you're paying insurance is to have coverage in case of an emergency. Even if you don't die without it, they're functionally just stealing your money.
>plenty of other companies exist
Which will never sign if you're in a hospital.
>government options exist
There's millions on the waitlist at all times, you'll likely either die or recover before you get anything.
>a loan and take on medical debt
Ah yes, the wonderful choice between dying or ending up on the streets.

You need to be removed from the gene pool.
Anonymous No.716031378
>>716002957
In the original System Shock, the world (and solar system) was controlled by corporations that were generally good but could be run by corrupt people. The sequel changed this aspect to be about how the first game was the product of a corporation out of control and so a united military was needed to keep them in line.
Anonymous No.716031494
>>716018853
Pretty much all organized groups suffer from the simple fact that people making decisions do not see the people on the bottom and never suffer the consequences of their own choices outside of seeing the rise and fall of capital made by their sycophantic financial analysts.

It's not even about inherent evil, humans are just not constructed with the level of empathy and awareness needed to keep that shit in mind while making broad decisions.
Anonymous No.716031547
>>716023428
>has a history of politicians in the pockets of either yakuza or cults
No duh.
Anonymous No.716031595
>>716002957
Real life
Anonymous No.716031751 >>716036164
>Japanese game
>the bad guys are a secret cabal of satanic cultists that control the government
>they look like antisemitic caricatures
Anonymous No.716035078
>>716026627
>(You) are Evil
The best. The main character can do basically anything because they don't have morals to stop. The villain power fantasy is too cool and is underplayed.
Anonymous No.716035992 >>716048091
>>716026627
From best to worst:
>(you) are evil.
>Society is evil.
>God is evil.
>Corporations are evil.
>Government is evil.
>Church is evil.

Mind you, I don't dislike church or government is evil. I just find it less interesting than the rest. Generally prefer it when both are presented as more morally grey organizations.
Anonymous No.716036164
>>716031751
They are obviously based on evangelicals though. Up to and including starting wars to fulfill doomsday prophecies.
Anonymous No.716037971 >>716038813 >>716041803
>>716031234
>>716028657
If your life is of so little value that it's impossible for you to pay back the cost of keeping you alive, you should be left out on an ice flow.
Anonymous No.716038076
>>716026627
>Best
All at once.
>Worst
Honestly all of them have the potential to be the "worst". We live in a society ones are the worst imo.
Anonymous No.716038813
>>716037971
You're retarded
Anonymous No.716039687
>>716010225
Recettear isn't a corporation, but the bank that wants you out is.
Anonymous No.716040015
>>716002773 (OP)
I mean given what's happening now the Japs have a point
Anonymous No.716041803
>>716037971
I think we should apply your standard to yourself. I think you are probably more valuable as organs than a laborer.
Anonymous No.716041841
>>716002773 (OP)
Robert, what are you doing here? I thought you had been sentence to oversee the popcorn mines over on /tv/ for the next quadrillion years?
Anonymous No.716042137
>>716002773 (OP)
>real life
>the corporations are evil
Shocker
Anonymous No.716042245
>>716002773 (OP)
>ancient evil wakes up
>sees the state of current day corpos and church
>ancient evil goes back to sleep humbled
Anonymous No.716042397
Who else would be evil in a Japanese game. Corporations are what run the country. The family bonsai farm?
Anonymous No.716042648
>>716002773 (OP)
Ok, that's a very random statement you've just blurted out, Robert. I just wanted two tickets for Superman.
Anonymous No.716042770
>>716002773 (OP)
Name one corporation that's not evil.
Anonymous No.716042909
>>716026627
>God is Evil
Never see this happen in JRPGs, its always a pseudo-god or a demiurge type character, not a creationist god
Only time it actually happens is in the original Sa-Ga and that boss is kino
>Church is Evil
>Corporations are Evil
>Goverment is Evil
>Society is Evil
Based and true
>(You) are Evil
(You) only happens in western games JPRGs only do You (player character) at best
Anonymous No.716042967 >>716043201
Do you guys love the church that much
Anonymous No.716043201 >>716043619
>>716042967
It's the foundation of western civilization so yes. I'm not even religious but i can still understand it's significance.
Anonymous No.716043619 >>716044839
>>716043201
Churches were good for keeping libraries but they also went on to suppress science and philosophy deemed heresy while being prone to corruption with high church officials living in luxury and decadence, directly going against the teachings of Christ they preach to others. A lot of blood has been spilled over heresies which are really just disguised power struggles within the church hierarchy.
I feel people conflate Religion and Theology with the institution of the church itself even though you dont need the latter to have the former two.
Anonymous No.716043809 >>716056769
>>716002773 (OP)
>The accident wasn't your fault, anon. It's time to let me go
Anonymous No.716044115 >>716044482
>>716002957
Arkham games
Anonymous No.716044143
>>716002773 (OP)
Look Robert, I don't know why they keep doing that...
Don't give me that look man, it's not my fault. I did my best, Robert, MY BEST!!!
Anonymous No.716044482 >>716044540 >>716044597 >>716044783
>>716044115
>do nothing but earn money so the weirdo in spandex can beat off thugs
Anonymous No.716044540
>>716044482
> beat off thugs
>>>/lgbt/
Anonymous No.716044597
>>716044482
Why are you implying that Wayne Entrerprises endorses Batman and not literally funding every level of institution in Gotham that would otherwise fall underfunded.
Anonymous No.716044783 >>716046747 >>716056328
>>716044482
Most corporations in DC comics are from the good guys.
Anonymous No.716044839
>>716043619
>they also went on to suppress science and philosophy deemed heresy
That really depended on the guy being in charge, some suppressed certain works while other sponsored mathematicians, physicists and astronomers
>corruption with high church officials living in luxury and decadence
Elites always tend to be debaucherous, especially in non hereditary systems (what type of person is most likely to climb the ranks to power?)
>lot of blood has been spilled over heresies which are really just disguised power struggles within the church hierarchy
that is true, however religious/ideological conflict arose and will arise regardless if church exists or not
Anonymous No.716046646
>>716003220
They're still bad in Dragonball. Just the protagonists like them. The main protagonist also gambles up the entire universe to get fighting erection on - so he's pretty much the scummiest villain in the universe as well. Not even a god of destruction is as maniacal as he is.
Anonymous No.716046747 >>716056328
>>716044783
> are from the bad guys
fix'd
Protagonists you mean. Just because you're the main character doesn't make you the good guy. Most DC heroes are not good.
Anonymous No.716048091
>>716035992
>God is Evil
High tier, but also incredibly overplayed to the point that it loops back around to being one of the worst.
>Church is Evil
Highest tier, hasn't been done enough, the church as an organization is 100% universally evil and has no reason to exist. It exists because it parasitizes the body of a government housing it, subsisting on kickbacks from the government that already taxes its people, and offers nothing in return. Rarely there are monasteries built by self sufficient monk orders that provide value, but those are exceptions and not the rule and such orders frequently exist independently or in spite of the big church.
>Corporations are Evil
Also hasn't been done enough, but objectively not as good as the church being evil, because corporations usually start out as entities offering valuable service of some kind and only eventually emerge as horrific abominable monstrosities perverted by faults of some kind, the only major examples that most people playing vidya would be able to name are Arasaka from Cyberpunk and Shinra from FF7.
>Government is Evil
A rather pleb tier take that videogames unable to write a good plot use, usually the government is only as good as the people it represents.
>Society is Evil
A chain is as strong as its weakest link, see above. Pleb tier.
>(You) are Evil
The worst and most pleb, Manhunt tier shit, extremely difficult to pull off because of it, as no one truly wants to be evil or play as someone evil except for laughs in a slapstick tier game. Evil should naturally make us feel sick when we witness it and those that are not disturbed by real evil should be scrutinized.

You know what hasn't ever been done yet in any of the mainstream videogames? The big banks being evil. The only game to ever have a large, estbalished banker that was evil and it being a major plot point, with him turning out to be the ancient subversive evil that made its fortune via the housing market, was in an indie Fire Emblem clone.
Anonymous No.716049008 >>716049207
>>716002773 (OP)
is the movie stream kinoplex still up ?
Anonymous No.716049207 >>716049440 >>716056829
>>716049008
yes and its great. its on cytube now
Anonymous No.716049371
>>716002773 (OP)
>Commercialism is actually bad
>Remembers games from early 2000s
Oh. Japan has reached that stage of capitalism.
Anonymous No.716049440
>>716049207
holy shit, nice, mandatory fuck you to nigger jannies at twitch
Anonymous No.716051152
>>716026627
From best to worst
>(You) are evil
It is the most interesting for me, especially when the journey actually has (you) repent and realize your mistakes. Pure evil like Hatred is retarded and lowest tier for me. Some people will disagree and say they like playing an evil mastermind and while it can be fun, you need very good writing skills to pull it off correctly because it almost always ends up like some Anakin bullshit or "I was evil for the sake of good"
>Society is evil
Again, it can be interesting if the writing is good because it has many implications and a lot of plot hooks you can create for this.
>Government/Corporations/Church
Are all the same with different names. If you live in a corrupt country you already know that the government has a cartel with the big corporations and the church so they are just a cycle of corruption working with each other. You can't have a corrupt government without corrupt corporations and vice versa, an ethical government won't allow corrupt corporations etc.
>God is evil
Most boring one, it can be interesting if Gods are lovecraftian and a force of nature. The moment you have a God with projected human attributes it's just a BBEG with powers. You could just replace him with an evil warlock and it's the same shit.
Anonymous No.716051250
>>716026627
>Wildlife is evil
>Women is evil
>Sustenance is evil
>Civilization is evil
>Author is evil
>Good is evil
>Evil is evil
>Evil evil evil
I should become a writer.
Anonymous No.716051310 >>716056856
>the church is good
>god is good
I will now play your game
Anonymous No.716051341
>>716010301
Sarif fucks with Jensen constantly, wether it’s lying to him about everything or experimenting on him as a child. Even if it’s for the greater good, they’re hardly saints
Anonymous No.716051445
>>716018504
Ironically, Fire Emblem Three Houses of all things depicts the church in a positive light
Anonymous No.716051512
sorry about the incident the other day robert... it was an accident I swear
Anonymous No.716051521 >>716056898
>>716023176
>all insurance companies are evil
>meanwhile my insurance company has never once denied me for anything
>they didn't even make me pay shit I technically had to because the doctor's office fucked up
>called me to check on me after a big surgery and to ask about a charge, told them don't pay it, they didn't, I didn't either (malpractice)
I have to assume people bitching about insurance companies never actually call the insurance company and talk to people.
>they're all pajeets
If your insurance hires pajeets to work the help desk, you're a poorfag.
Anonymous No.716051598
>>716002773 (OP)
Okay but where's my alaskan king cluster with clarified butter, Robert?
Anonymous No.716053521
>>716002957
None. Heck, even the idea of a corporation itself is just plain evil now thay I think about it, and they shouldn't exist at all. I just pirate all my games, and the only games I WILL buy are indie games since a lot of them are cheaper, and the devs actually have empathy for their fellow man thanks to them being socialists and supporting lgbtq rights and blm.
Anonymous No.716056328
>>716044783
>>716046747
Bruce does love using Wayne Enterprises in his problem solving.
Anonymous No.716056713
>>716002773 (OP)
Just here for the kino Robert. Maybe we can discuss videogame tropes by region later. Can I have my Baja and popcorn please?
Anonymous No.716056769
>>716043809
R-Robert...?
Anonymous No.716056829
>>716049207
Yeah on cytube.
Next weekend's showing is Steven Seagal films
Anonymous No.716056856
>>716051310
>the church is good
>God is bad

>the church is bad
>God is good
What games do this?
Anonymous No.716056891
>>716002957
Robco and Repconn, Fallout NV
Say what you will about House's politics but they did do genuine research into space travel.
Anonymous No.716056898 >>716056954
>>716051521
>W-works on m-my machine!
Lol.
Anonymous No.716056954
>>716056898
lol
cope
Anonymous No.716057041
>>716002957
Anything based on jjba
Anonymous No.716057052
>>716002957
The Pokeball manufacturers
Team Flare had to take them over but they were just doing honest work to sell Pokeballs to the world. You could say the same for Silph Co.
Anonymous No.716057241
>>716002773 (OP)
>foreign multinational company bad
>local multinational company good
Anonymous No.716057415
>>716002773 (OP)
>you have to become the japanese megacorp to save the world from other megacorp
Anonymous No.716059360
Play AC6 already, Robert
Anonymous No.716061539
>church is either overall aneutral, or good force, but an extremest sect or corrupt individuals have gained control and begun warping it to benefit them.
Any games that do this?