Thread 716006289

Why don't you own the RetroGamer™ 4K upscaler to play all your 'retro' games? You want the best quality don't you?

>>716006289 (OP)
Aren't good ones stupid expensive? I'd rather just use my Wii U.

>>716006289 (OP)
Snake Oil

>>716006289 (OP)
>just add 80ms of input lag bro

Posted mine before but my Retrotink 5x is amazing and PS2 games look crisp as fuck.

Came out to $343 after tax plus tip plus ship but worth every penny.

>>716006606
Does 5x do HDR or not

>>716006945
I mean... I don't know? I don't see anything about it in the manual.

I only use it on PS2, Saturn, and SNES and those aren't exactly outputting an HDR signal.

>>716007107
The point of HDR is to have scanlines that look more realistic. Having scanlines cut the brightness, so you use HDR to get it back.

>You want the best quality don't you
99.9% of the best quality for free with RetroArch is fine by me

>>716006289 (OP)
People don't want to pay for the same game twice what the fuck makes you think they'd pay for a system twice.

>>716006289 (OP)
Because RetroArch does it for free.

>>716007231
In terms of visuals RetroArch far surpasses these scalers.

I just use my 28" Panasonic Quintrix and original hardware. I emulate the expensive games on my Wii

>>716006289 (OP)
Because I own a CRT TV. When I want to play on a modern display for whatever reason, I just emulate.

>>716007231
Emulators output the raw thing so they look better than any scaler ever would.

>>716006606
I've used mine for at least 300 hours, also worth it. Gamecube and PS2 games look great.

I got picrel aeons ago for like $30, looks crisp as fuck on my CRT monitor. Also looks good enough on my regular monitor, VGA-HDMI adapter was like $3. Keep buying (((Retro)))tinks like a good consumer.

>>716007912
>VGA-HDMI adapter was like $3.
And it has 10 frames of lag and looks like shit

>>716008826
You don't know what you're talking about, do you?

>>716006289 (OP)
Nah, i'm poor as fuck and i use one of these to drive my CRT TV with a screenless macbook.

>>716007728
Come on, don't you want to mod your snes to have a 2 chip blur remover, RGB scart adapter, use the retrotink 4kplus ultra just to obtain exactly the same result as bsnes?

>emulate any pre 2000 game
>run in 4k
>crt royale
i'm good thanks

>>716006289 (OP)
old games look like dogshit in 4k

>>716006289 (OP)
I play my retro games on a dedicated emulation PC that's hooked up to a real CRT TV instead.

>>716010428
How do you get video on the CRT from the TV?

>>716010554
>>716009463
You can use this solution, but you get no 240p, so either flicker or vertical blur.
In terms of shit like input lag etc i actually feel none of that.

>>716010213
So run them in 1080p

I bought a GBS8200 for like 6 dollars, and modded it GBS Control for like 4 dollars.

>>716010868
Modded it with*

>>716010737
Old games are meant for 480i/240p.

>>716010554
VGA out from a Radeon R9 380 (you need a supported Radeon GPU, but a lot of them work) going into pic related and then a regular SCART cable from it to the TV.

The box is just a sync converter, plus it provides some voltage level on one of the pins to tell the TV it should display the RGB input (SCART has composite and S-video on the same connector too, so this is required or you may get a black screen). This setup outputs proper 15kHz 240p/480i, it can even do those weird 55Hz or whatever the fuck modes that some arcade games use.

>>716006289 (OP)
>Scaler On
>Nostalgiabait 90s videogame console On
>Widescreen Enabled
>Lame ass game playing at 20 FPS booted
Yeah. I'm thinking it's gaming time.

>>716006289 (OP)
>best quality
>native
Pick one.

>>716011427
That's incredible.

>>716011427
>OSSC
>room for like 2 games
>stretched the fuck out
it's so bad

>>716011427
I'm ready to game

>>716006289 (OP)
just buy a crt

>>716011640
>has a recompiled PC port
>plays this shit on a SD CRT
>because "3D games have a native resolution"

>>716006289 (OP)
best quality would be a crt tv, though

>>716011465
3D games you always play in the highest resolution you can.
For example, actual CRT shit, 3D game.
It's running at twice the native resolution of the PS1 (640x480), but you still can see the stairstepping.
To get it as best as the CRT can do, i need to set it to 1280x960.

>>716011827
motion blur retard. enjoy your smear

>>716007161
yeah there's a setting for HDR but there's also settings to adjust color brightness, I haven't used it yet I use a a nice oled with mine though.
i didn't know it supported composite/svideo so when I busted out a console I didn't have a scart or component cable for I was pleasantly surprised.

>>716012204
There's blur on CRTs as well. That's how you claim 60fps looks so smooth, retard. You can lie to yourself and claim you're getting a better experience at 240p, but you're just coping.

>>716006289 (OP)
Emulation is better (in quality and options), free, and more convenient.
Originalhardwarefags are retards.

>>716012395
Motion is the keyword here.
There's no motion blur on the CRT tvs because they have no physical twisting crystal shit.

You gotta be fucking retarded to try to upscale 15khz 3D games.

>>716013002
>15khz

>>716006289 (OP)
Just emulate or use FPGA.

>>716006289 (OP)
I do, I have a Retrotink 4k because I'm not a poorfag. I use it all the time

>>716013078
It's the fancy name for 480i/240p
It means 15,000 lines per second.

>>716013549
So I prefer playing them at 1.35GHz.

i'd never heard of this so i looked up a yt vid and wow what a fucking waste of $500+.
i'm struggling to understand the level of autism required to justify this over emulation, when emulation looks so much better.

>>716012395
>There's blur on CRTs as well.
buddy are you trolling? have you ever even used one in your life? they only tear/smear if the framerate doesn't match the refresh rate, if the framerate/refresh rate matches there is literally no blur.
> 240p
try 1600x1200

>>716011427
oh my science... it's fucking beautiful... *drools*

>>716012861
>because they have no physical twisting crystal shit
That's not the main problem, OLEDs don't have any physically twisting liquid crystals either but still have motion blur, because they're fundamentally sample & hold displays while CRTs are not. That's also why CRTs flicker while LCD and OLED normally don't. I say normally because there are strobing implementations for LCDs and OLED screens too, those also flicker but have much reduced motion blur, nearly CRT level.

>>716014193
>what is phosphor persistence, precious?
>I just started using CRTs a month ago because a YouTuber told me it was the most authentic way to play iconic retro oldschool classic hidden gems of yesteryear

>>716013628
SO 8k, 312500 FPS?

>>716014561
That's 4k165 if I did the math right.

>>716006289 (OP)
Don't bother buying a scaler if you have a PAL region console. Worst mistake I made, just buy an old CRT.

>>716014437
nigger my screen visibly flickers at 60fps, phosphor persistence ain't shit and you can only see it with bright lights on a pure black background.

>>716014317
I think on my LED there's the twisting part too, because it's very, very blurry teh motion.

>>716014662
Ah i see, the 15Khz is about number of lines, not pixels, there's no such thing as pixels with analog signals.
Just strip down the horizontal and you get it.
The atari jaguar could technically speaking do 1600x240.

>>716009647
No.

>>716015134
Come on, it's very cool to do 10 times the work for the extra 16ms of input delay (assuming you're not using some CHEAT like runahead)