/v/ was wrong again this was fucking amazing and the only jrpg i've played so far where the early game isn't easy and boring

no one played it lol

>>716012865
I agree.

>game is unbeatable unless you follow a guide early on

>>716012745 (OP)
but we had 30,000 threads when it came out saying it was good

>>716013149
that's the shitty snes version the remake actually has hints

/v/ had a month of constant threads about this game with overwhelmingly positive reception. And the vast majority of the negative comments came from a single shitposter who eventually revealed that he never played the original RS2 in the first place.
Fun times.

>>716012745 (OP)
Based OP. This and octopath 2 are my favourite JRPGs of the last decade. I still like the Atlus games, but those 2 just hit the spot for what I'm looking for. Nostalgia fags will bemoan the changes but the original saga games were too obtuse for their own good.

>>716013332
What do you mean? The remaster was easy to progress in. You never needed a guide for it.

Yeah in this one the entire game is easy and boring which is why casuals loved it while the avoid the actual games like the plague, lol

>>716012745 (OP)
>/v/
it's literally one schizo hating on the game

>>716012745 (OP)
>the only jrpg i've played so far where the early game isn't easy and boring
Play more games. Inverse difficulty curves are pretty common in the genre.

>>716015306
I think it's at least a couple. There's also that ONE anime avatarfag, but they can been seen in a lot of places.

>>716013149

>>716014945
Yes it's easy to progress. Then you get to the last emperor and the final boss and realize it's impossible to get any of the spells, skills, and equipment needed to beat it without grinding because you weren't following a guide.

>>716015996
you don't need any particular spell or equipment to beat the last boss

>>716016185
it wipes your entire party in one turn if you don't have high magic def armor, light wall, and temptation ward

Who did (you) pair the mermaid with?

>>716016404
it does nothing like that and you can defend against temptation simply by having a female party, if you can't pass the temptation check you're literally retarded
also nothing in the original game warrants using Lightwall, it's nice to have if you wanna grind for it but not even Dread Queen needs it

/v/ shit on this game? I've seen nothing but praise.

>>716016582
>oops you picked a male emperor and now the game is unbeatable :^)

>>716016701
no wonder the remake is a braindead autobattler when this is the modern audience that whines about the games
even if your final emperor gets charmed in case you were too stupid to miss the somon ring, the intaglio ring and the magick stone ring you can instantly cure it with basic spells by setting up one of the many fixed order formations, temptation is a no issue to anyone with a brain

>>716016664
It should get more praise and Kawazu deserves to be CEO of Square since they keep giving him small budgets for these remakes and remasters.

>>716016869
Hey schizo, you never played the original lol

>>716012745 (OP)
I can't wait for the RS3 remake.

>>716016869
>just use a guide and equip all of these missable items with incredibly specific requirements
epic game design

>>716017050
I probably won't even get it. I've accepted that RS2 is an outlier in the series and don't have any interest in the rest of it.

>>716017078
none of that stuff is specific, it's basic game mechanics and multiple quest rewards that are impossible to miss unless you're a doorknob
but yeah, there's the autobattler demake for you people that even helps you with your velcro shoes, it's not like you can even play the real games anway

>>716016404
I never used light wall nor had temptation evade skill.

>>716017221
>the ring you get for 100%ing the game and recruiting every character (some of which become missable after a point) is impossible to miss and not specific
retard alert

>>716017394
if you manage to miss three different items and are also too stupid to use a simple fixed order formation you're mentally challenged, you can miss the somon ring or the intaglio ring but if you also miss the magick stone ring you should consider other hobbies or stick to baby series on rail like final fantasy or persona

>>716012745 (OP)
Very good OP very good, HOWEVER

>>716017517
Actually the magick stone ring is easily missable. You get it after the second event in the gemstone mine and that event only occurs many years after you add that territory to your empire. So if you go through the canal fort at the start of the game and ignore the western route until the end, it's entirely possible that you reach the final emperor without that event ever occurring.
And as for fixed order formations, the martial artist, herder, and corsair formations involve the emperor attacking first. Only the samurai formation would ensure the emperor does not attack first. But of course you can just use a formation that penalizes the emperor's speed and/or equip him with heavy armor, rather than using a fixed order formation.
Or better yet you can simply cast Mist Cover on your emperor. He will not get hit by temptation while he is invisible (and he might spark an evasion skill). He can stay invisible and heal your other team members during the final battle.
- someone who played the original game

>>716012745 (OP)
This is casualized trash with dumbed down mechanics compared to the original and the remaster. Only coomers played this shit.

>>716019126
Temptation hits through mist cover and then they can't be healed by other party members

>>716017050
They announced one?

>>716019684
no

>>716021598
It does. It happened to me.

>>716015996
huh? you can turn everyone into water mages, grind water magic for few hours and then spam hasten time to beat the final boss without even giving it a single turn.

>>716021639
Are you sure you didn't do something to end the invisibility? Or did the enemy use vortex and you forgot to recast invisibility?
I cast mist cover on my entire team while fighting Rocbouquet and spammed defend until someone sparked temptation evade.
(talking about the original, to be clear)

>>716012745 (OP)
I hate SaGa but even this remake was pretty good. Turns out when you develop the game for normal people, not those with extreme autism, it's actually fun.

>>716021976
>turns out when you make an octopath game with saga in the title you get a good saga game

>>716015306
I wouldn't say the people pushing it are entirely innocent either, this isn't a very honest thread. It reads like one of those shitpost spam bait threads from /vrpg/

>>716016450

Was the input lag in RS2 remastered ever fixed or is there a version that doesn't have it?

>>716025196
kek

>>716015996
I used basically nothing but mist cover (a basic water spell), healing and my emperor spamming sword and won on my 2nd attempt, it's not a very hard game

>>716012745 (OP)
The only good SaGa game ever made, and that includes the original. That's especially hilarious since none of the original developers or designers worked on the remake.

>>716015662
Based

>>716028662
it's the worst SaGa game. even below SaGa 3 and unlimited

>>716012745 (OP)
Then play SMTV.
The beginning is brutal.

>>716012745 (OP)
it's shit compared to the remaster

>>716025196
Does he have a spiny multiheaded penis like an echidna?

>>716016701
it's perfectly beatable with a male final emperor, you're just retarded, saga games aren't meant for literal retards

>>716025459
there never was any input lag on the pc version, it must be either with the mobile or the switch version

>>716012745 (OP)
was kzinssie always hated and a little incel loser in the original? feels like the rest of the heroes have it in the team out of pity

>>716031816
the original is more show dont tell kinda game. hes a runt hiding behind monsters and he even traps the manor with mimics. hes also really easy in the original and doesnt have bombastic cutscene mechanics like in the remake, which feels more like a parody of the original.

>>716030838
That's what a shit eater would say. At the first sign of a good game, they shit eating minds convince themselves of the opposite.

>>716031816
yes and no, it wasn't so hit you over the head with a blunt object about it, there was a line or two about kzsizzle being the last member to join and the other members not wanting him to join but wagnas insisted