Thread 716013783

just downloaded this. what stats should i focus?

>>716013783 (OP)
Your heterosexuality. This gayme turns you gay

>>716013838
and what demons should i use?

>>716013783 (OP)
I've played both and MAG is good the entire time but STR gets way fucking better than MAG.

>>716013926
my friend said luck was the best one.

not luck. i went pure luck my first playthrough and it didn't seem to do anything

>>716013838
There have been many excellent games with gay protags in them and this isn't even the first one Atlus has made/published. I'm tired of hearing people bitch about this, or worse, pretend the game isn't gay at all to save themselves from non-existent embarrassment under the excuse that they didn't read or understand what they read in the game.

>>716013783 (OP)
Go STR and make sure to use Demeter.

>>716013783 (OP)
>what stats should i focus?
Magic early game, you can switch to Strength later if you want. Like after level 40.
>and what demons should i use?
Whatever you want, you can make any demon strong. It only becomes an issue with hidden bosses.

>>716015723
so it's not just the fanart? how much does it focus on it?

>>716013920
>and what demons should i use?
Which ever ones you want. I kept mermaid the entire game.

Strength or Magic, with some Vitality sprinkled in.
>>716013920
Go with what you think is cool, but if you want overpowered choices
Very early on Turdak is great because as a Jaki race he can use Ragetsu Feast which is kind of OP for how early you get. Element race demons can use Omagotoki:Luck which gives you a ton of XP if you use it on the last turn of a battle, use it at the end of a boss fight for ridiculous value. Anything that can activate one of the pierce/hit all+stat down magatsuhi skills is good. Artemis and Idun are no brainer choices when you get them and won't be replaced for a long time.

>>716013783 (OP)
Unironically, luck is probably the biggest one, crits on this game are kinda make or break in fights against bosses, besides making filling up Magatsuhi bar ridiculously quick once you can get access to filling it up via crits in the game. After that keep an eye on the Magatsuhi skills each demon have, if you can rake up lots of Magat bar, you can even do up to 4 in a single party turn.
>>716014051
Your friend does indeed know. Picking either MAG or STR build simply won't do in this game since the harder bosses will have some resist bullshit on them so you will either have to use Impaler Animus or one of the Pierce Magic skills, which don't do the max damage output that the Barion version or multi-hit do. Magatsuhi skill end up replacing these problems, and you fill it up the quickest having luck.

>>716013783 (OP)
99% of SMT games goes like this
>STR build or MAG build
>STR being better 99% of the time near the end but takes a while to get rolling while MAG is always relatively effective but falls off
so just pick one build and don't put any points into luck
that's it

>>716013783 (OP)
Pump estrogen, dump testosterone, equip chastity cage. Glad i could help

>>716016546
There is the bench, dialog in the main story, the revenge arc, some quests, and the conclusion.

>>716013783 (OP)
This game is so good

>>716013783 (OP)
Full luck and make an ailment/support beano

>>716013783 (OP)
magic then respec to physical end game

Quite frankly, any of them can work. I've seen all Vit runs shrug off everything.

I spent all my points so far into Agi because I heard Dodge is a game breaker in this game
How fuck am I?

Something a lot of people forget is that ailments are really really good in this game thanks to the director being the director of Etrian Odyssey.
They even work against most bosses, a well timed seal can cut Demi-Fiend's fight in half.

>>716013783 (OP)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3279836265
Memorize all of this, should make it easy to decide.

>>716016546
NTA you replied to but 2 quests flat out explain how they feel about each other and one of them was in the original release so it's not new information. At most all VV does is show that it wasn't purely one sided feelings coming from Aogami while the main character's were left ambiguous.

>>716023219
Not fucked at all really.

>>716025528
Care to do a little explanation?

>>716025579
Because you can always make those skill points back and rely on your demons to do damage? You can also just go agi and switch to mag and turn your Bino into a heal slut. Also if you're on CoV, when the form change happens you get some attacks that are boosted by agi.

>>716013783 (OP)
STR if you're a loser and weakling, MAG if you're a cool dude.

>>716025579
There's a skill that makes you dodge 100% of attacks until your next turn, and the strongest attack in the game is only usable if you dodged an attack since your last turn.
AGI has nothing to do with either, of course. Dogshit stat, wasted points.

>>716025579
Not those guys, but your stats don't really matter that much and every possible build is fine. Going full AGI will still give you decent options.

>>716026251
This. Most SMT games use a level-based system, so they care more about how high level you are as opposed to the individual stats.

>>716027735
That isn't entirely what I meant, although VV does have level scaling as well. V has way more viable builds than most games cause of stuff like Magatsuhi and bino unique skills.

>>716027968
>That isn't entirely what I meant,
Oh, I know. I was being additive to the convo, not to your post. My bad, should have been more clear.

>>716027735
That really isn't true at all. Not to mention, SMT II has a mag stat check at one point in the game.

>>716013783 (OP)
Magic and luck then respec to str luck

>>716028602
>That really isn't true at all
But it is. The damage formula takes your level into account and in some games even exponentially increases or decreases based on the delta between you and your enemy, while the stat only moderately changes the damage value. A level 1 character with 20 STR will do massively less damage than a level 40 character with 10 STR. If it were a stat-based system, then the level would not matter in the slightest.

>SMT II has a mag stat check
This isn't related to what we're talking about though.

>>716013783 (OP)
You can focus on literally any of the 5 main stats and Nahobino will get skills that fit that role.

STR and MAG are obvious, but VIT is actually the strongest putting Bino in an a supporting role, AGI lets you use the low accuracy skills that are extremely strong and LCK lets you increase your status ailment efficacy rate (and nobody in the game besides Lucifer is immune to status Ailments even all the bosses can be ailment locked). You can build for anything.

>>716028827
Level is not so important in most SMT games that you can just pick anything and think that if you level enough, nothing matters.

>>716017063
>Yoko
Based
>LVL99 Mermaid
What is even the point of this?

>>716029431
Well she is the sexiest girl in the game and she has Pandemonic Feast

I love the Qadistu, I hope they show up again in the future. Eisheth Zenunim my beloved.

>>716029702
They're my favorite of the 4-set demons.

>>716029431
It's fun to not use meta picks.

>>716029702
She was the best design.

>>716029702
The fuck is wrong with Doi and those asymmetric patterns in his demons

>>716030428
He apologized for his designs being too busy like last year and said he's going to try and not do that anymore moving forward. We'll see I guess.

>>716013783 (OP)
Can't go wrong with speccing into STR or MAG. Bean-kun's strongest attacking skill is STR-based, but it requires set-up to use, while his strongest MAG attack can be fired off easily.
If you're not gonna do a NG++ Godborn run, focusing on AGI is also very viable. One lategame skill if you play the Canon of Vengeance route scales off of AGI, so if you pump all your points into that, you're gonna be nuking everything that doesn't null/drain/repel Force.
Of course, grab some VIT so you don't die in two hits.

>>716030531
Doi designs being busy is not the issue, it's the fact that most of them have the exact same colour scheme and style to them. He still does 10/10 designs like best girl.

>>716031237
AGI also let's you use Myriad Slash, Figment Slash and Rampage indiscriminately. Myriad Slash pairs nicely with Lunar Hurricane and Murderous Glee

>>716031362
>exact same colour scheme
What?

>>716031362
Imo they mostly just lack the edge of the originals. Kanekos work starting in the 90s gave it that older anime influence which helped develop his style. Dois stuff is more contemporary cutesy. It just feels like the two styles clash

>>716031825
Several of his new designs are not cutesy at all.

>>716031553
>Agrat
>Dagda
>Eisheth
>Namaah
>Glasya Labolas
>Lahmu
>Hydra
>Tiamat
>Tehom
He uses this colour scheme so often, and I probably forgot some too.

>>716032138
Majority of the demons you listed are ones that are supposed to go together. Lahmu is Tiamat's child. Hydra is also a water related snake like Tiamat and the others are self explanatory. Dagda also does not belong on that list and I don't know why you think his design matches with the others you listed.

>>716031993
No, he's definitely doing better. Especially compared to the strange journey redux stuff. VV has had great art imo. I'd just love to see more 90s cyberpunk shit

>>716032273
>Majority of the demons you listed are ones that are supposed to go together.
Doesn't matter, they just illustrate the point because it's more obvious in V. He uses this very often. Buddha's 2nd form, Cleopatra, Adrammalech, Vishnu Flynn, etc. Doi is tied way too much to specific colour schemes and styles like with all the specific decorative patterns.

>Dagda also does not belong on that list
Yeah, you're right. His style and colour scheme is entirely alien, not even remotely similar whatsoever. Night and day.