Thread 716028157

>Backs up a little
ez

please stop punching me

doom 2 is too brown

>>716028157 (OP)
:(

>>716028157 (OP)
*it was a hologram*

>>716028157 (OP)
You only punched me because I'm Hispanic.

>>716028227
>shoots fireball right in your face

>>716028157 (OP)
>Unfazed

stop it meany!!!

>>716028486
>Gets near again
Sorry bonehead, i know your tricks, you will try to punch and you will miss according to my whim.

>He can't play punch out with a revenant
Genuine skill issue. These bone heads are complete pushovers

>Infighting starts
>Watching revenant punching cacodemon

does anybody have the a link to the "agitating skeleton" doom punching guide? I thought about it the other day and I can't seem to find it with any of the key words I remember

>>716029053
I got you anon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJcf0aOwmiA

>>716028227
/thread

>>716028993
The best is when they try to melee a pain elemental, who's completely powerless and inoffensive at melee range.

>>716029090
>Archvile's attack can get blocked by a stupidly thin pillar
Huh

>>716029141
Those overcooked meatballs deserved it

>>716029283
Yep. Turns out a lot of the monster roster in Doom 1 and 2 can easily be outsmarted just by playing against the way they were designed.
This applies to things like the BFG as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0KBAZkPFmI

>>716028157 (OP)
It's fucked up how the Revenant's design is like taking the roboflops concept from Robocop 2 but made with the intent to have a former human stripped down to its bones as a writhing demon whose every second of unlife is endless pain and all it can do is scream. Yet his sprites look like he's a jolly fucking boner, nevermind that the Doom community thinks of revs as fucking comedy monsters you use for ultra shitpost fights like pick up a key, suddenly 100 boners surround you and make that stupid face

>>716029471
>game is morbid, serious or oppressive in tone
>fanbase output is whimsical and whacky

>game is goofy and benign shit like Animal Crossing
>fanbase tries to turn it into a horror story

>>716029471
That's just how Doom ends up being portrayed.
There's a clear horror edge to it but the fast gameplay, cheesy graphics and sound take away from it. Even with something like Doom 64 or 3 taking a more edgy tone.

>>716028157 (OP)
Heh, nothing personnel boner.

>>716029774
Funny gif but it breaks my immersion knowing Doom monsters know how to fucking open doors.

>>716029090
>Battle Arena Toshinden music out of fucking nowhere
That was a nice surprise.

>>716029774
Give em one of these

>>716029670
Makes me wonder how would Doom 64's redesigns for the cut monsters (revenant, archvile and spidermastermind) would've looked like given that D64 made enemies a lot grittier and detailed like the Cacodemon and HK/Baron guts looked damn grotesque compared to doom2

>>716029090
Legend

I got the DOOM 1+2 ''remaster'' for free on steam and I still have No Rest for The Living, Legacy of Rust and Evilution to beat. I never beat any of them. Are they worth it?

>>716030115
There's a mod that converts Doom 1 and 2 to look more like 64 (also works with custom wads.)
It's pretty neat and makes use of what we do have for reference regarding the cut monsters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzc6wVXM57U

>>716028157 (OP)
revenant ruined doom

>>716030340
>No Rest for The Living
Yep. Good game.
>Legacy of Rust
Never played, don't really plan on playing it.
>Evilution
Eh... It's not great. Play it for historical reasons if you NEED more official doom. There some decent maps in there but not many.

>>716030457
Archvile did.

Why so mean

>>716030340
>NRFTL
Pretty decent expansion, though it's best quality is just having good map design as that's all it has to offer. It doesn't even use the final doom textures as far as i know
>Evilution
You will learn to hate and understand why Chaingunners sit on the same tier of threat level as a Cyberdemon through this wad. Inconsistent quality in terms of level design, carried mostly by its music. Plutonia takes the difficulty to its extreme (at the time at least), Play Final doom only if you feel like becoming a man
>Legacy of Rust
Pretty good, even if i'm still miffed at how it rips off megawads made by the community. The entire thing feels like a ''what if Scythe 2 was an official expansion for doom'', down to ripping off Scythe 2's map 16.
Stupid hard though, it's head to head with Plutonia, but unlike Plutonia, the difficulty is not due to bullshit.

>>716030571
>Evilution
I remember when playing Habitat it felt like I downloaded someone's first wad.

give me a good wad that was released in the past year that does not have the vanilla weapon or monster set. Basically I don't mind if it's not a full on total conversion as long as it's not pure vanilla.

>>716030340
I liked No Rest. It's a breezy 9 levels I was surprised it was over when it was over.

Legacy of Rust does a lot of cool things since it doesn't have to work around limitations of the old engine so it can comfortably work in new monsters and weapons. The levels themselves are pretty great even if its coolest visual trick is done in the first level. It's built with the assumption you know how to play Doom and will escalate combat setpieces pretty rapidly.

I'm still bummed out that legacy of rust had the ghouls, which are doom alpha's lost souls but actually fun because they're not hitscan, but just uv-fast cacos, but didn't opt to restore the spider mastermind's psychic attack or find a way to give her a second attack to make her a lot less of a damn worthless monster. The fact that a downscaled arachnotron sized mastermind (Mind weaver) is 100 times more threatening and powerful than the actual final boss of doom 1 really shows how much of a fucking flop this monster is.

>>716031190
do good wads even exist? what I played and what I watched is always some colorful, badly designed sweaty bullshit, often with shit music. who enjoys that crap? better look into conversions.

What are some good Doom wads that is faithful/similar to vanilla Doom 2. I love the way Doom 2 plays but kinda dislike how some of the levels played/map design.

>>716031261
>>716030905
>>716030571
I'll play NRFTL and Legacy of Rust. By the way, how's SIGIL 2? Romero maps are my favorites, but I don't think I can stomach DOOM 1's roster and no SSG

>>716032370
I haven't played both sigils so i can't comment, but i do agree no SSG sucks
>>716032315
Alien Vendetta is still an absolute must-play classic.

I had a fucked up idea for a doom monster, i call it the plutonian triad.
A revenant made with the skeleton of an archvile that resurrects dead enemies by turning them into revenants and has the chaingunner's chainguns on his shoulders
A chaingunner who fires revenant missiles continuously and has a melee attack that's a super berserk ayylmao punch that is 1:1 to getting zapped by an archvile
And an archvile with a chaingun amplified by its devil magic and rather than resurrecting monsters, it turns corpses into 4 homing revenant rockets

All 3 walk as fast as an archvile btw

>>716032370
SIGIL 1 and 2 are fun but get kind of brutal. Romero leaned hard on this one gimmick throughout both where you shoot the eyeball icon (and it's usually very difficult to see from all but 1 angle) so keep an EYE out for those.

>>716032548
>Alien Vendetta is still an absolute must-play classic.

I'm like 3 maps in and loving it already. Thanks.

>>716031261
Yeah, Legacy of Rust definitely gets points for ambition. I thought the pacing was tight, encounters got real creative past map 3, and the custom monsters didn't feel like cheap GZDoom fluff for once. Only gripe is that it kinda peaks early like you said-still, better than the million "hallway >> slaughter map" wads floating around. The tone shift in the last few maps was actually kinda Romero-esque, in a good way. Worth the play.

>>716031972
I have to admit, I've drifted away from Doom over the years and prefer Quake 1 mods now.
Except for anything made by Slipseer. Even if you ignore their shitty politics and crybullying the legends and old talent out of the community, they just try and make Doom wad style maps every time. Full on clusterfucks with hundreds of monsters in small areas, fuck off with that.
Arcane Dimensions and Alkaline have hundreds of monsters too, but that's because the maps are huge so the pacing is actually good.

>>716030115
>archvile
the artist behind doom 1 and 2's latex models made a design for it or rather she/her

lol

>>716028157 (OP)
>roasts you