Should Valve make their own payment system that would outperform Visa and Mastercard in long run?

how long would it take to pay for things if you could pay in headpats?

>>716030936 (OP)
that would be based but gabe is probably gonna die in a few months so it'll be for naught

the tf2/cs2 market is gonna TANK hard when gabe dies too

>>716030936 (OP)
fucking bitch doesn't take AMEX

>>716030936 (OP)
>Make a "virtual currency" that you buy with actual money that is just an object in your Steam inventory
>Use that as payment
>Profit
It's that simple

>>716030936 (OP)
Aceita pix?

>>716030936 (OP)
Don't they sort of have that already with those cards you can buy at 7-11?

>>716032119
That's sort of one way, but only only having those would completely tank the market since it's not as fast and convenient, they're fixed amounts, and it's a thing that can get sold out.

>>716030936 (OP)
Not worth it. Creating your own payment processor just for a tiny niche of games is a garbage idea.
>>716031645
>>that you buy with actual money
So you're using payment processors with extra steps.

The only way (You) could effectively change anything about this situation is to normalize an online culture that is positively receptive to porn games and porn in general.
Right now, most online political pundits think that porn is shameful or immoral, which should be easy to debate since their arguments are mostly based on speculation.

Just ask the following questions,
>How do you measure harm caused by pornography consumption using hard data?
>How do you measure harm caused by pornogrpahy consumption that relate to problematic topics using hard data?
>How do you measure harm caused by pornography consumption in relation to minors consuming it and why shouldn't minors consume pornography at all? (Addiction is not a good argument, since minors are usually even more addicted to junk food, video games or social media)
>How do you weigh that harm with the happiness that pornography consumption creates for millions if not billions of people?
The issue is so easy to debate because most of the arguments are just slogans, thought terminating cliches or rely on pseudo-science.

When you break through the usual tiktok-brained insults, "okay groomer" and "whatever, porn addict", the field is yours.

>>716032998
Why is challenging production of real CP not enough of an argument? No one believes that Epstein killed himself anyway. Only Epsteinfags defend payment processors at this point.

>>716030936 (OP)
no but Japan should

Back in 1999 i mailed a money order to get a subscription to that sailormoon x dragonball hentai site. I think it was called DragonmoonX. Id be willing to go back to such a process. Are you?

>>716033182
>DURRRRR TRUMP BAD LE EPSTEIN LE EPSTEIN LE EPSTEIN
holy shit fucking insufferable

>>716030936 (OP)
The problem is that valve doesn't give a fuck.
Valve could have implemented age verification for germany so all the 18+ games aren't region locked there, but they just don't care, and neither do they care about rape and incest games.

>>716030936 (OP)
valve making their own payment processor sounds exactly like something that will happen

>>716032998
The folly of your side is imagining that this is a debate in the first place. We don't do that.

they already have a private currency that they failed to implement for this exact use case
I'll forgive them if they spin something up in the next couple of months, but they've had 6+ years to do something

>>716030936 (OP)
Can someone remind me why we allow blatant antisemitism threads on /v/ again? Go back to >>/pol/.

>>716030936 (OP)
>Valve makes their own payment system
>Gaben's yacht mysteriously sinks the day after and Valve's office get hit with multiple drone strikes

>>716032998
what this retard said >>716033901
they don't need to debate you, they can just say some vague shit and 90% of people will side with them because they think you're weird for defending porn so much. this is the reality.

>>716030936 (OP)
The problem is adopting rates by banks my dude. There are already plenty of payment processors that aren't americucked, they are just available worldwide unlike visa and mastercard.

>>716034362
Well fuck.
adoption rates*
just not available*

>>716034362
Using some Russian or Chinese payment processor sounds like a one-way ticket to getting the American state to rip you a new asshole.

>>716032998
>So you're using payment processors with extra steps
That's what Japanese sites did with their points system and it works just fine. Yes, it's extra step and annoying at that but with retarded boomers at payment companies, it couldn't be helped

>>716033769
havent seen your kind in years then after this epstein thing rebounded you started crawling out of the woodworks. you sold your soul, and im not getting it back for you.

>>716033769
Obama would never let mastercard do this.

>>716034481
There are a lot more payment processors than people believe and yes most of them aren't controlled by russia or china.

>>716033182
People are fundamentally emotional beings first and only use logic as a proxy to interface with a few choices in their lives.
When you ask,
>Why is challenging production of real CP not enough of an argument?
An opponent of virtual CP may counter,
>Why is the fact that normalizing child sexual abuse not enough of an argument?
Since we do not have conclusive, hard data for either one of these claims, both participants at first seem like they're at an impasse, but since humans do not operate through logic, the opponent will have the high ground since he gets to use an appeal to hatred of pedophiles and an appeal to the status quo to break the stalemate.

>>716033901
I agree with you 100%. No one wants to debate.
However, normalizing questioning the status quo relating to pornography, and asserting that speculation ought not to take away anyone's freedoms, will sow seeds of doubt in whoever is reading these messages.
Opinions exist on an emotional spectrum, and your goal is to nudge someone to your side, day by day. Make them uncertain whether what they're blindly believing is the truth.

The only way to win is by asking questions and exposing people to other opinions.

That's also why site owners are afraid of pro-pedophilia skewing messaging. While not illegal, they're deleted in an instant in virtually all public spaces.
Whatever your opinion on pedophilic relationships are, you have to admit that most opponents of pedophilia use slogans and arguments that are at most one layer deep.
What this means is that a group of pedophiles could theoretically subvert entire communities just by asking questions and creating doubt.
Anti-pedophiles, their opinions on a spectrum, are already close to -100 (imagine an opinion sitting on a scale between 100 to -100). The only way to move is towards 0, which is why websites employ a very strict 0-tolerance policy towards pro-pedophilia discussions. Just the exposure to other opinions will make them warmer to it.

>>716034827
we need to set up obamapays

>>716034539
Aren't you already buying currency on Steam? You can't cash it out anyway

>>716037994
Not exactly currency, you get those odd points while purchasing games but they also comes with "community awards" and honestly cannot be spent on any real stuff anyway, people have tens of thousands of them and no idea how to put them into use.

>>716030936 (OP)
Headpats are a troon dogwhistle

>>716039028
Huh? Why did you hear it then?

>>716039108
>what were YOU doing at the devil's sacrament?

>>716039108
It's a basic thing. You see "le cute anime girl headpats uwu" and you know it's some trannyshit
You also post tranime so don't play ignorant you know what you are doing

>>716039527
So you are trans then, we got it.

Doesn't a payment processor's success depend on what banks are readily adopting it? Valve has a shit ton of money, but you are going against banks.
I don't even see why payment processors themselves would be held liable anyway for this stuff, if anything at most, they should be book keepers that you can refer back to when you need to make a decision if you need to pursue buyer, seller or both with illegal activity. That might open a can of worms itself, but what they are doing now is over the line.

>>716033769
payment processors have been caught for years being lax on child porn because someone has been benefiting internally in those organizations. NDA can't beat word of mouth.

>>716035049
Good post

>>716039562
>See tranny doing tranny stuff
>Point it out
>"uhm maybe you are transfolk yourself chuddie!? STOP NOTICING THINGS!!!"
Ywnbaw

Why would they bother? PC cum guzzlers will happily swallow anything coming out of Gaben's putrid cock. It's only bad when consoles do it, haven't you heard?

>>716030936 (OP)
Valve should only accept those steam cards you find at CeX and add some legal bullshit to the EULA claiming its the store's responsability if they accept anything but cash for it

And make steam stores where you can buy games with cash

>>716039905
Do you know what a dogwhistle is, or are you an ESL pajeet subhuman?

>>716039905
I don't want to BE them
I want to FUCK them
I find them cute i want the anime girl on my screen to be my WIFE
The headpats thing makes me imagine giving her (my wife) headpats which soothes my soul

You dense frog nigger

>>716039987
>can't mod games, not even simple bugfixes
>pay twice to use your internet
>wanna upgrade your device, have fun buying it again
Your mind immediately went to dick because as a consoletard you don't know anything other than getting shafted.

>>716039905
Absolute retard.

>>716040162
You don't belong here

>>716040254
Headpats are a tranny thing. You cannot ignore it no matter how "cute" or "wholesome" it is
Just like ignoring trannyflag colors or rainbows

Stop promoting troonyshit and stop posting tranime or fuck off.

>>716040484
You don't belong here if you think fucking headpats = tranny shit.

>>716040484
>it's a tranny dogwhistle that only trannies can hear!
>so you are a tranny then?
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DON'T CALL ME OUT LIKE THAT
Ahahahahaha. ESL tranny mad.

Anime website.

>>716039028
>much troons
Little girls (both 2D and 3D) love headpats, you schizo.

>>716040484
You are a troll trying to poison the well by linking things anons like with trannies, argument is over

Headpats are not a tranny thing. By recognizing it as one, you are giving them the power over you. Don't.

>>716040564
It is trannyshit you fucking retard are you a newtranny? We have gone through this shit already before https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/715503834/#715506556
Or maybe you are trying to distract newtrannies

>>716040705
>Get informed that trannies uses specific symbol in public to try and groom kids
>Inform other anons of it
>"NO! STOP! Y-YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO KNOW!!!! YOU ARE HECKIN TRANS IF YOU NOTICE SOMETHING!!! LET ME GROOM KIDS IN PEACE!!!!"
You fucking retard

>>716030936 (OP)
The problem is that they still want visa and mastercard money so they'll still bend the knee, everyone will. There is no other option, visa and mastercard must DIE.

>>716040943
Trannies also breathe. So stop doing that for us also, will you?

>>716030936 (OP)
> Should Valve make their own payment system that would outperform Visa and Mastercard in long run?
Anon the problem is that in the US the backbone of payment processing is done on the VISA/Mastercard/JCB/etc network. Very few services support direct bank to bank account transfers.
In the EU they introduced new laws that forced their banks to open up their backends for third parties so you have the option depending on the service of completely bypassing payment processors.

But honestly that is not a final solution. Payment processors and Banks must not be able to stop lawful money exchanges.
Honestly in the end of the day the ideal solution is trading via some stablecoin cryptocurrency.

Come home white man.

>>716032998
>When you break through the usual tiktok-brained insults, "okay groomer" and "whatever, porn addict", the field is yours.
Bold of you to assume you CAN break through.

>>716040943
>claims it's a dogwhistle
>"how did you hear it then?"
>NOOOO I'M NOT A TRANNY I'M NOT A TRANNY SHUTTUPPPPP
Ahahaha, ESL tranny so mad. Way to expose yourself.

>>716041080
suicide is trans coded

>>716031506
>gabe is probably gonna die in a few months
Gabe is only 62 and far healthier than he was a decade ago. He's one of the richest people in the world so he'll get the best medical care anybody can afford. He'll very likely live into his 90s.

>>716041338
It will seem fruitless because you won't convince people on the spot. It takes time.

>>716035049
why are we groomed like this ?

Why do you even keep feeding the discord shitposter? Anyone who keep talking about trans and associate anime/anything cute with them is either a retard or shitposter and should be ignored.

>>716041495
"groom" is a power word meant to instill a negative connotation without having to argue for it.
Speech is all about controlling emotions.

It's retarded.

I am an adult, I can decide what I want to spend my money on.

What fucking business do the card brands have telling me what I can and cannot buy with my fucking money? You are a middle-man, know your place, process the transaction, and keep the fuck out of it otherwise.

>>716039028
Are you actually fucking retarded you faggot?
What's your fucking malfunction?

>>716030936 (OP)
How much headpats does it take for a 60$ game?

Reddit frogs are tranny coded

>>716041595
>i have this influence and i will use it to get things i want done
>no you can't do this, you are just a tiny meaningless speck in my imagination noooooooooooo

>>716035049
>Why is the fact that normalizing child sexual abuse not enough of an argument?
Because it factually doesn't. The rate of child abuse and child rape in Japan where 2D is most common is far lower than western countries where that isn't the case. Factually, loli does not in any way encourage greater rates of child abuse.