Thread 716061665

>boomers used to have fun, free games/animations made fully out of passion, accessible at the click of a button
>they allowed this medium to die and be replaced with microtransactional mobileslop
why?

>>716061665 (OP)
flash is BAD
mmkay?

Still playing flashpoint suck my dick

no one wanted flash to die but no one could stomach it to keep living
it was an actual blight making the internet worse because adobe is the least competent company on earth
html5 canvas, webgl, and all this other dogshit should theoretically have replaced it but the reality is that they're fucking trash

>improves you're flash game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOxUSy85nsM

>>716061665 (OP)
I used to develop some games on action script on the day. Fun shit

>>716061665 (OP)
crazygames.com

It's still there. Just know where to look

Because boomers and millenials are big pussies who never fight back, so they allowed everything to turn into shit.

>allowed

Windows Vista came out anon

It literally was so bad it destroyed the home computer market entirely.

>>716061948
>>716061665 (OP)
this

https://www.crazygames.com/t/flash

>>716061665 (OP)
Steve Jobs purposefully removed flash support from the iPhone so that he could push his slop store. The upside was that the flash apps ran like shit on mobile and native apps were more optimized. Flash games continued to exist for s long time snd HTML games are now common, but outside of Happy Wheels there was never a lot of amazingly memorable games.

The Epic Battle Fantasy series is great and I love Natz.

>>716062163
I do not care about mahjong.

>>716062356
There's like 400 other flash games

>>716061948
Just use flashpoint
>>716062163
Oh shit mf is that Vector TD?

>>716062163

Anyone remember any of THESE games?

>>716061665 (OP)
>Make a few hundred dollars making a flash game
>Or make millions of dollars making a flashlight or a fart app for iphones
Simple economics. Blame phoneposters.

what're some of the best looking flash games?

>>716062520
>ginormo sword
i'm suprised this game doesn't get mentioned more often.

>>716062520
>Spank the monkey

>>716062350

Wish the steam port let me use my controller

>>716062695
I spent one weekend some many years ago 100%ing it. What a game

I wonder how many of the free flash game devs, animators, etc. still actually create things to this day. How many went patreon whore, how many stopped doing things entirely.

>>716062520
I played Kingdom Rush on my phone and it was quite good. Didn't know it was a flash game.

>>716062520
Why would you do this to my childhood nostalgia organs?

webgl is pretty good tech for games tho
t. actionscript & js dev

>>716062520
i remember like three of these and i enjoyed flash all throughout the 2000s

>>716062350
I love her too

>>716062520
IS THAT MOTHERFUCKING LEARN TO FLY?!
I fucking kneel

>>716061665 (OP)
everything fun and good was killed on purpose by megacorps for their christian new world order
jesus christ is the real satan and is a falsegod
he has lucifer do his bidding
the goal is complete control

The old internet is almost totally gone now. All I have are memories of better days. Days when the internet was 90% white people...

>>716063015
That's because flash peaked in the early 2010s

>>716061948
This was fun

>>716062821
Egoraptor comes to mind.

>>716063204
no? by 2010 it was already dying quite bad, i don't think i saw or played any games after that

>>716062350
Natz's natz.

>>716063329
But zoomers did, that's the thing

>>716061665 (OP)
it was a vector for hackers and Adobe didn't want to deal with it so they let it die.

>>716063420
maybe so, i was not part of that

So is Newgrounds still a safe haven for edgy and inappropriate content you can't do on, say, youtube?

>>716061665 (OP)
I miss /f/ so fucking much

>>716061885
thats a paragon song? i just heard it recently from a flash game

>>716062163
Well I tried this site clicked around and now I'm playing Storm the House and it feels like I'm all the way back in high school again

>>716063557
it will comeback someday. worse but still

>>716063487
Well compared to youtube yes, there is still swearing, gore and porn but the culture has clearly changed and anything considered truly edgy is out of the norm.

>>716063569
Paragon songs were used all over flash games back in the day so it wouldn't be surprising

>>716063697
i wonder how hes doing today

>>716061665 (OP)
The loss of Flash itself was a shame but the bigger loss is that culture of doing things out of passion
These days everything is paywalled
Fucking microcapitalism, who do we blame for this
I think it's to do with the monetisation of social media which led people to think they could and should receive money for whatever inane shit they squeeze out

>>716063843
this. hopefully we return to form or get a resurgence in the 2nd internet

>>716061665 (OP)
I still can't believe vampire survivors, which is worse than free flash games, not only succeeded but spawned a new genre
Shit is worse than newgrounds flash games wtf man

You can literally just play freeware games now. They never stopped being a thing.

>>716061665 (OP)
90% of flash stuff is still alive and still made to this day. Also now we also have free web Unity games. Nothing died you zoomer.

https://itch.io/games/free
hurf durf durf

Reminder that plenty of flash game creators paywalled their shit and the only reason more didn't is because of how inconvenient it was for them to do so.

>>716064078
>>716064201
oh really? ok well im sorry for being such a downer

>>716064238
And there's a sense that a lot of Flash games were made totally for free without any expectation of profit, when a lot took sponsorships, exclusivity deals, or received ad revenue.

>>716064078
>>716064078
>>716064078
This.

Fucking OP is just retarded who wanted to be spoonfed

>>716061948
Thank you.

>>716062780
man now youre going to make me play it

>>716061665 (OP)
zoomers have free roblox games now

>>716062520
the first 3 BTD games take me back

I really liked all the small, bite-sized artsy games Flash had. I don't think it's something you see a lot of nowadays.

>>716061665 (OP)
>flash thread
Alright anons, what's your favorite Papa Louie game? In the mood for one.

>>716062520
>Happy Wheels
What the fuck?
And all those other games too?
I thought /v/ told me flash was dead?

>>716061665 (OP)
Because it was a closed medium owned by a company that forcefully shut it down despite its popularity.

>>716066207
Windows 7 is dead, doesn't mean you can't use it, it's not a SaaS.

>>716066184
My gf loves playing papas pastaria

>>716066126
I remember a short game called Small Worlds that had minimalistic but very nice pixel art, I also loved music and overall atmosphere it had.

>muh generational war
If you want to talk about something, make a fucking honest thread about it.

Shoutout to my niggas at Nitrome.

>>716064078
There's also SwFchan for the remaining 10%

>>716068197
They're doing a switch 2 game now
About mice

>>716061665 (OP)
Millennials are boomers now?

>>716062043
what was bad about vista

>>716069012
nta but
too demanding for most home computers at the time, new architecture made existing things and their drivers bugged or nonfunctional early on

>>716062350
What a giga chad

>>716061665 (OP)
what zoomies fail to understand is that flash was basically the entirety of the internet for like 15 years. Government websites fucking used flash to render their benefits portals. It was expanded far, far beyond what it was ever really intended for (which was basically just an animation plugin)

It was so prevalent that there were "full stack" developers who worked entirely in flash. Almost any cartoon made after 2000 used flash. Some studios STILL use it (under a different name but still sold by Adobe). The ecosystem was so large that the games were a natural byproduct. The second that Apple noticed that Adobe had literally abandoned flash and moved forward with championing HTLM5, it was fucking over. There was little reason for something that had that much hardware access and control to be so bloated AND insecure. If it was just one it wouldn't have been such a fucking problem.

I loved flash games. I grew up on them. I have flashpoint and boot some of them up and even go to Newgrounds sometimes to see how how they're doing with fucking RUFFLE. But the age of hobbyists making games for free (and for their portfolio) was very, very small and it was for profit from an early point. Kongregate, miniclip, shockwave, etc all commercialized flash games and there were premium services offered, trial versions of full games, and other bullshit on top. The nascent stages of broadband internet were amazing but like all things, it changes.

/f/ is dead. Long life /f/

HomestarRunner was the best thing that was made using Flash adn anyone who disagrees hates fun.

>>716062163
right in the feels

>>716069798
I'd argue it's one of the best things to happen to the internet

>>716061665 (OP)
>why?
Muh iPhone. And Adobe being a piece-of-shit software slum lord.

Flash was especially cool because it had vectors, which opened up a lot of cool visual opportunities for games, where are the modern vector art games

>>716061665 (OP)
>they allowed this medium to die and be replaced with microtransactional mobileslop
Guess which generation loves mobileslop so much they refuse to buy a laptop or PC?

>>716063245
Well yeah, no shit the guy who pivoted to doing sub-dsp-tier let's plays is still around. I'm asking about less obvious examples.

Did Kongregate pay flash game developers to keep achievements exclusive to their games on Kongregate? Devs added achievements to their games when they released them on Kongregate but they never added any when they released them on Newgrounds.

>>716062728
JSK games are way better

>>716061857
>it was an actual blight making the internet worse
Proof? Flash is no more yet the Internet didn't heal itself.

>>716070656
flash was a proprietary resource hog that developers had no ability to maintain on their own, and Adobe was a rentseeking piece of shit taking forever to patch any major vulnerabilities. Replacing flash with HTML5 and proper CSS was actively more efficient and secure. Ostensibly, webdevs had the tools to do things properly, but what happened is that most of them replaced Flash with fucking garbage javascript libraries that they couldn't maintain on their own either.

>>716061665 (OP)
>boomers
this was made by millennials for millennials

>>716071087
the commercial games and shit like that were made by boomers and GenXers who were already industry grognards. Millenials cut their teeth on it, and made edgy animations and porn. The sheer amount of low effort hentai quizzes on newgrounds....

>>716069798
Can't argue with that.

honestly having to install a program, not just a browser extension, that hooks into your browser, and you manually have to keep it up to date, was not a very good concept.
java was killed for the same reason. unpatched java was quite literally the #1 delivery method of malware for quite a while.

>>716070350
I think most games still use vector for designing UI: HUDs, menus, and such.

>>716061665 (OP)
they still do that, retard, it's just not flash but array of game engines and moddable games

>>716061665 (OP)
Because the greedy goblins demanded that you stop supporting flash games and they are totally BAD okay!? JUST TRUST ME

It was a cool time for games. Thousands of amateurs making whatever the hell they wanted and putting it out on the internet for free. The tech was bloated old shit so it rightfully died but we did lose something valuable

>>716066106
HOW did Ninja Kiwi do it? Sure Bloons is a solid, fun concept but they've managed the franchise with... fuckin' crazy expertise despite all the bad decisions they've made. Boons just keeps going and inclined to say it's at its best right now.

BTW, 6>5>3>1>2>4

I forget how deep flash was integrated into the internet for a while.
Sometimes when I see a url on the back of an old dvd or game case I look it up on the wayback machine.
They're often unusable because the entire site is a flash applet and ruffle doesn't support them fully.
Like, look at the pokemon websites around ~2005.

>>716061665 (OP)
Roblox is better

>>716068240
Based

>>716068240
swfchan has 90% of stuff but there is some lost media like old CN games.

>>716064238
>>716064478
Your greedy lies will not work here.

>>716061665 (OP)
Steve Jobs wrote an entire letter explaining why he thought Flash sucked and it all went downhill from there
https://web.archive.org/web/20170615060422/https://www.apple.com/hotnews/thoughts-on-flash/

>>716074960
I love Flash games dude, just saying that the field wasn't 100% random dudes making shit for fun, there was money and business involved

>>716075229
Remember when Cartoon Network tried to sell their Flash/Shockwave games for $30 a pop on their website?

>>716075135
he was right about literally everything except his stupid fucking fruit starvation diet he used to try and fix his treatable type of pancreatic cancer.

>>716075387
I did because I fell for it.
What the FUCK were they thinking, I even remembered the exact price of that skateboard on the right. Fucked up considering you could get shit like a club penguin/runescape/adventure quest membership for a fraction of that

>>716075229
No one said it was 100% but it was definitely a higher proportion than it is today

Post 'em

>>716076079
Based

>>716063956
>Evil-Dog never released the Saga of the Dead remake on unity he said he was doing 10+ years ago

>>716061948
OP BTFO

Does anyone remember the name of a certain flash game website that got completely memoryholed? It had a black background, packed with pop up ads to the brim and the ui was atrocious because only 9 games in a 3x3 grid had images so the rest you had to try by clicking light green text links. Also fun fact it also had subbed anime on the side like it was for me one of the first sites I found that streamed anime with fansubs. Circa 2004.

>>716079641
I thought it was maybe albinoblacksheep but no dice

a lot of flash games made money from ads too

>>716081810
yep

>>716081810
That's why many games had DRM that prevented you from playing them offline or stealing them to put on another site.

>>716061665 (OP)
>he thinks flash games didn't have microtransactions back then

>>716062780
whats the trick to killing god2? i could never dent it

>>716082489
I used to play a battlebots like flashgame. That shit had some ridiculous microtransactions but I never understood how it worked. Still looked rad

>>716082894
It's been forever but I guess it's something like this?
https://youtu.be/Rs-KJwpcXME?t=2288

>>716062695
luv me ginormo sword
luv me rabbit invasion
luv me crush the castle
'ate burrito bison sequels.

simple as

We can not go back to the good old times.
The innocence is lost
COVID showed the true colors of people
Jewish mass media control showed there's actual NPCs in your families
Now the NPCs fight in Left vs Right politics instead of focusing on the puppeteer bankers and jew families
Oh well! Time to goon my brains out to text porn again?

Ruffle works flawlessly with almost every neopets game, I'm having fun trying to get highscores

>>716082894
>>716062780
>>716065915
wasn't there some multiplayer clone of this recently?

>>716062350
amen to that

>>716084736
THERE WAS? I need it. NOW

>>716062520
>play some of these games as a clueless zoomer
>realize that old games were indeed just objectively more soulful than today's games
huh

>>716062520
>>716062163
Thanks to you I just wasted my entire afternoon trying to make a penguin fly. Thanks anon.

>>716084781
I can't find it. It was some IO playtest on /v/ I think

Since this is a flash thread, does anyone have the spelunker version of num1000 512kb cache mix?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wDlJzP8KsE&list=RD9wDlJzP8KsE

>>716070350
there was ubiarts which was supposed to be open source until corpo most likely said "giving out stuff for FREE? lolno" and it was doomed to be exclusively used in just dance before being replaced in 2023
tl;dr fuck ubisoft

>>716062163
Someone recommend me a game to play.

>>716062163
Holy shit this site is absolutely based. Thanks anon!

What does gen alpha feel when they find these flash games? Do they ever leave their tiktok fortnite holes? I'm mid 20s and a zoomer, all I did was play flash games in school and browsed the ZSNES games library I found on a flash stick...

I liked how the series sonny was status effects galore and going for the legend achievement in 2 was fun

>>716089309
Soul

>>716061665 (OP)
Boomers were smoking weed, spreading HIV, and crying about Vietnam

dan-ball.jp/en

For me, it’s Staggy the Boy Scout Slayer

>>716089309
there's two in this image at the back that do not belong there

>>716061665 (OP)
>made fully out of passion
they made their money from browser ads and sponsorships and got paid a commission from how much traffic they brought in.

>>716061665 (OP)
YOU allowed it to die. Where's your passion project faggot?

>>716090752
nice

>>716090752
Not flash but damn this site takes me back

>>716062163
still have no idea how they made stick war 2 so bad

>>716091921
Still feels more genuine than prey on addicts through microtransactions. I admit it has simularities but to me it's still better

>>716085249
the last stand, it's really really good probably one of the best flash games, literally has production values lol

>>716061665 (OP)
Because the infrastructure wasn't in place for digital distribution yet. Tom Fulp talked about what a pain in the ass it was to get a retail release for Alien Hominid because the big publishers controlled store space. Shit was free because there was no standardized reliable way to get people to pay for shit.
Once Steam allowed third party games rather than exclusively being a Valve platform and at the same time, Xbox developed its Xbox Live Arcade and indie outreach programs, the door was kicked open. At the same time, Web 2.0 and the parallel development of smartphones and subsequent reorganization of the internet around smartphones created a massive consolidation of the internet that allowed companies to target nascent audiences, e..g the Facebook browser game candy crush etc. demographic. The dot com bubble was barely in living memory and new billionaires were being born overnight.

The wild web was tamed, now is the time of monsters.

Antbuster? Fuck yeah.

No better feeling than being a kid and refreshing every weekend to see if that game or animation series you followed got an update.
No following blogposts or twitters or anything. It would just randomly shadowdrop

i wonder how many of the "real art should be free" fags get money from the government that they spend on vidya or bitter wagies mad that some of us are self employed through merit/talent

You can't both lionize the period as the apex of creativity and simultaniousily treat it as something disposable and without value. That's a contradiction. I'm not gonna be homeless for your faux idealism which is entirely from the perspective of a consoomer with zero actual skin in the game who is just salty he's too stupid to figure out how to bypass a paywall or use a torrent

It's why I tell people to just steal my work but fuck you I'm still gonna charge people who can't figure out how to do it.