What mechanics, in your opinion, do you feel Animal Crossing is missing?

The Smoke Room was not as good as Echo. I dont care if you only care about the porn but the narrative and characters of Echo was much more compelling.

>>716064324 (OP)
Crust busting

>>716064619
TSR had better art but never got finished. With that being said, I prefer Echo more

NES games. That shit was my endgame in the GameCube version. Having the ability to invite people to you town means fuck all when there's nothing you can interact with in your house.

>>716064324 (OP)
Echoslop and its derivatives were never good.

>>716064324 (OP)
Sometimes I want to be a furry so bad I'd even take the Echoverse

>>716065762
>TSR had better art but never got finished
Isn't it in development?

>>716067057
Thankfully it was cancelled due to dev drama

>>716067057
Anon, I...
It got killed

>>716064324 (OP)
>nice character designs
>god awful setting
Many such cases...

Imagine having a spic wolf bf that will unconditionally love and have crazy sex with you no matter what while you both deal with each others latent schizophrenia.

So it's a gay furry vn? Is this like a "came for the porn, stayed for the story" thing?

>>716064324 (OP)
Expansion mechanics

>>716068302
TSR is more porn than story
Echo is more Story than porn.
TSR is a prequel to Echo that was later cancelled due to dev drama

>>716066545
This. I wish the pinball games worked or the arcades. Just get Wario Ware style micro games. Make the board games work or the cards.

>>716068765
I see, thanks anon.

>>716064324 (OP)
It should have dungeon crawling for mats with very light combat using the slingshot and axe.

>>716067057
>>716067295
>>716067297
Unless something happened without me looking it is still In-Dev, but it now no longer has any "Official" Ties to Echo and Echo Project nuked its Itch page and scrubbed out of any association to it and it was reuploaded by George as a "Fangame". Nik route was done a while back, Murdoch route is under development.

>>716068302
More or less, for one thing Echo barely has porn and the few sex scenes it has are all framed negatively.

In fact Chase (The main character) doesn't even get "Love Interest" of each route in the majority of them.

Carl rejects him cause he is unsure if his feelings are actually his own and gets a GF instead.
Leo gets KEKED, as Chase gets with another Character.
TJ Loses By Winning.
Flynn HATES Chase by the end of his and dies
Jenna (who is female and the "Bi-option") is cheeky about it, but suggests it can happen in the future, and she says she will Wingman you choice if you don't enable her as a Romance option at the start of the game (Note: Leo is a non-starter in this route.)

The Smoke Room is super porny to point it actively detracts from the setting and is non-sensical. You play as a male prostitute who is the "Secret Menu Option" of a Brothel (fronting as a Helper/Bartender), but there is also a barn where the local miners have all male parties and dance and generally act faggy with eachother in romantic ways he never heard of right around the corner.

There is also a sequel, Arches that is short IIRC didn't really go hard on the porn and is pretty good, the MC is a Psychic who goes to a Haunted Hotspot, triggers the fuck out of it and then gets kidnapped by a Serial Killer who wants him to solve the fact he is haunted by his victims. It goes more for tension then anything.

>>716067442
For Echo I'd say it's the opposite. The character designs are okay but the setting and atmosphere are really good.
Maybe it was just me since I'm a pussy but I genuinely thought some it's scenes and characters were genuinely creepy.

Imagine having oneitis so bad that you give yourself a mental illness.
Imagine giving yourself a mental illness while living in Desert Silent hill.

>>716064324 (OP)
as other anons said, minigames tied in with specific pieces of furniture. otherwise I'd quite like the ability to host a town on a server, so you can share a village with people online instead of needing to share a console and take turns playing. nintendo's horrible online infrastructure for AC however will never make this a reality

>>716064324 (OP)
Romance and sex.

>>716064324 (OP)
I don't know. The decomp seems promising but Animal Crossing at its core is on-par with gachas where you do your dailies and then fuck off rather than playing in larger sessions.
Cult of the Lamb having something else tacked onto seems nice on paper but both halfs are shit. All the "AC-inspired" indies double down on being adjacent to Stardew and being too derivative. Webfishing shows you can just ape the aesthetic and glue it onto a VRchat social-sim with shallow gameplay and people will buy it.
The extra shit on New Leaf seemed neat at first but it's just minigames with an AC skin that didn't do much to the core game.

>>716064619
>>716066647
>>716066691
What are you talking about?

>>716071590
Leo is a great character.

>Has confirmed gamer rage moments, complete with a hole in the wall.
>Owns guns.
>Hates college because "It doesn't make you smater, just more liberal".
>His porn search history makes his computer lag and includes "Handholding".
>Eats TV-dinners.
>Masturbates in his car.
>Has a Tulpa.
>Absolute Turbo-Jobber who fails at everything, and especially if it involves Jenna in any way.
>Still so popular even after his own route spent nearly its entirety shitting on him that he THEN basically derails an entire different route so there can be even more shitting on him even more by making him a "Pedo" due a 2-3 year old age difference.
>He didn't even actually get time off from work, he is No-Showing the whole week. Keep in mind he works for his own dad.

WHICH ONE OF YOU DID THIS, THIS IS WHY WE WONT HAVE NICE THINGS

>>716064324 (OP)
Being able to fuck cute boys like Sasha.

>>716064324 (OP)
Nothing, ignoring the "woman took over and enshittified it", the core charm of Animal Crossing is it being tied into living in the Japanese boonies with lots of care in its folklore that got panned to the sideline for a global audience to skip needing to localize it properly.
Just make Morenatsu in an Animal Crossing skin and it'd be 1000x better than anything Nintendo will ever shit out post-NH

>>716073206
ah yes animal crossing, the traditionally masculine game series

>>716073374
I'm referring to this where there's a noticeable shift in game design.

>>716073501
what you call a noticeable shift is what is actually just a franchise iterating on itself. New Leaf introduced the idea of adding decorations to the village outside of just flowers and trees which in itself played off the role Tortimer had in adding a new bridge to the villages in AC Gamecube, New Horizons just leaned fully into this aspect. I would argue the destruction of tools and resource gathering loop leans more into something more male dominated, Survival Crafting games. you just want to be mad a woman and have worked backwards to justify a conclusion you already had

>>716073501
What a dumb image. You know she's not entirely responsible for making that cashgrab Amiibo Festival right?

>>716073501
this

>>716072828
The "pedo" thing is weird because it just gets completely brushed aside and nobody cares about it by the end. Even the dude he slept with was just "yeah we fucked who cares"
Leo was 16 and Micha was 13, a 3 year age difference while technically not a big deal (it's still kind of weird and kind of fucked) it's a bigger deal he video tapped it. Which is pretty heinous but that ends up going nowhere and is just swept under the rug. Not to mention Leo pretty much never brought him up ever to anyone and pretended he never existed while Micha ends up getting kicked out his house by his parents and is homeless.
This all gets swept away however and everyone then becomes friends, I guess. I guess you can chalk it up to extreme trauma bonding after all the events of that night.

All the Leo shitting doesn't stop him from still being popular though.

>>716064324 (OP)
The opposite, I feel like Animal Crossing has too much. They shouldn't allow you to play tyrant and God to the island, it should be New Leaf with a few more QOL features like the outfit selection and house decorating.

>>716074002
>no actually, it's a good thing that the game shifted away from making a niche amongst the neighbors you're dealt to being literal god of your dollhouse ethnostate
Not even reading the rest of your left bellcurve post.

>>716074202
>erm no, it's actually the suits and shareholders that did it, even though the paradigm already shifted with New Leaf

You've both demonstrated you lack the necessary critical thinking skills to continue engaging with.

Leo could fix me.

>>716074906
Brother he cant even fix himself
you will make each worse

>>716074842
>>no actually, it's a good thing that the game shifted away from making a niche amongst the neighbors you're dealt to being literal god of your dollhouse ethnostate
never once did I say anything about if I thought it was good or not that that happened anon. for someone so eager to call others stupid you seem to be unable to actually read and understand words presented to you

>>716064324 (OP)
Items that affect appearance(make you taller, shorter, older, younger, FATTER, skinnier, greener, bluer, buffer, weaker, etc.) and also dungeon crawling with combat.
Like theres a sinkhole or cave or something in your island and you can go explore it and fight mysterious creatures for loot. Also give me a gun to fucking remove unwanted villagers from my island, I fucking hate that the stupid fucking ugly grandma monkey wont fucking leave my island, I just keep ignoring her and she wont fucking leave. Why don't you just pull my pants down and fuck my ass if your gonna make me pay money for a game where I have to stare at a fucking rotting old chimp all day.

>>716074842
>erm no, it's actually the suits and shareholders that did it
Yes. It literally is.
Amiibos weren't even a thing when New Leaf released. Retard

>>716068702
>Ywn get inflated/fattened+fucked by a cute girl
It's not correct.

>>716074995
>never once did I say anything about if I thought it was good or not that that happened anon
>what you call a noticeable shift is what is actually just a franchise iterating on itself
Rephrase your posts if you want people higher on the bell curve to read and engage with your posts proper.
>>716075303
>erm you're a retard for acknowledging that I was being intellecutally dishonest in saying the woman was not 100% to blame for something that happened post-ethnostate paradigm shift
Thank you for failing to properly engage with my post.

Both of you still have failed to understand the underlying criticism in that Aya Kyogoku subverted Animal Crossing for her dollhouse ethnostate simulator through New Leaf because she failed to grasp what made Animal Crossing good.

>>716074381
Sorry, I need this explained in an HR Lady meme format

>>716076168
>>what you call a noticeable shift is what is actually just a franchise iterating on itself
>Rephrase your posts if you want people higher on the bell curve to read and engage with your posts proper.
man who claims to be higher on a bell curve does not understand what iteration means and think all iteration is inherently good and not just the process of building upon what came before. he also can't click on the right post before replying

I hope the next Animal Crossing game give us otter villagers.

>>716077351
otters seem to be special NPCs only, like Lyle and Pascal.

>>716074535
I understand why people feel this way and I think a lot of the charm of the GameCube game is how Animal Crossing's while little world moves around you. Your house is almost like a little bonsai tree you can keep iterating on over time vs a game like new horizons where basically the whole world is your bonsai and I think that's fine too. The one thing I would probably want to backport to old games from NH is making it harder for villagers to move out, if only because I like to collect photos and even in NL they try to move out way too fast lmao. As for going forward, I would like the next entry to go more into the farming/vegetable stuff and cooking

i found some star pieces or something on my beach today, wtf are they for

>>716077716
Ideally the next game we can have control over maybe where the shops are located, but otherwise we only get to control an area around your own house as your personal yard, with villagers getting their own yards that are decorated based on the villager in question

>>716079329
used in crafting the space/horoscope themed DIY projects.

https://nookipedia.com/wiki/Star_fragment

>>716068882
I would actually prefer to have working pinballs and arcade games than the NES games. Doesn't even need to be too complicated or anything either. Just want the items to have more interactivity.

>>716079536
rocking chairs and swinging benches should actually rock and swing when i sit on them

Nik sexo

>>716076168
usually i hate furshit but this image genuinely spooked me

>think this is an animal crossing thread
>it's some gay furry dog(haha)whistle to talk about some type of porn
ach /wie/

>>716081306
>thought this was a furry thread
>it's a furry thread but not my preffered kind

>>716082114
do you think everyone who play animal crossing wants to fuck the animals?

Soulcreek is the superior gay furry horror VN

>>716079332
If they're going to do another NH/NL style game that's going to have a big focus on decorating outdoors I think being able to control where villager homes go is essential.

I got months into making a sexy animal crossing clone for /v/ but not a single one of you thirdies and poorfag beggars put a red cent into the patreon so I had to stop. Got bills to pay here in Amerikkka lads.

>>716064324 (OP)
You fuckers don't want to admit but deep down you know the truth, this can only be fixed by an indie team makin their AC clone with dating systems, maybe even sexo, all of that connected to AI like the videogame MyRobot

>>716064324 (OP)
I'm surprised there is no edgy indie AC clone.

>>716082757
Sorry anon, never saw it

>>716082529
eh it'd probably work fine if it like NL where houses are zoned in a way to not interfere with objects placed outside, though NH's way of just having set plots is also fine. I just would like to see how the other villagers could impact the village visually with decorations around their home, instead of the player having complete and total control over basically every aspect of outside portion of the islands. maybe we can cut terraforming but keep path making and fences, and have outdoor decorations that function more like the public work projects, or have public work projects zone out specific areas for customization. Like you can build the park, and then fill it with park themed furniture.

>>716082757
>doenst name it
must be shit

>>716083341
It was years ago now.

>>716082757
>paying for the development of a game
no thanks, if you want my money deliver a product

>>716083484
>Work for free in your spare time on a game you cant sell so i can jerk off to chibi furries.

lol
You wouldnt have paid anyways f9fag

>>716082318
Soulcreek is more linear though, choices basically are just "See naughty bits/Don't see naughty bits.", I mean Echo is still conservative with it but it does have "Bad Endings" for half of the routes (Carl,Leo and Jenna) and getting Chase killed with poor decisions. So Failstates.

The thing Soulcreek does well is the sound design and toying with your expectations, right down to Loken turning out to he a terrible first impression of your average person in the setting cause he got autism ;_; making it easy to downplay when he warns of stuff. Like haha, demons aren't real, they are just killer robots. but i can't actually recall choices killing Alex or ending the story prematurely, though thing could been tallied in the background gearing up for the ending i guess.

romancing villagers

>>716083412
I guess I just don't see the point of going backwards like that, you can already just treat it like that on your own if you want. I would maybe prefer Dark Cloud style incentives for building the world in a certain way to really tie together the village in a certain way or whatever

>>716077351
Damn, the Taggerung lookin zesty

What a cute and perfectly stable looking couple!

>>716064324 (OP)
Multiple careers.
Ability to have text conversations with AI chat bots attached to characters so you don't have to rely on 6 personality types.

Everything about Chase gives me the ick.

>>716064324 (OP)
dating, marriage, and impregnation mechanics but only for human male-female animal villagers.

>>716073501
This convinced me to play Animal Crossing 1

>>716064619
I mostly agree buts its hard to accurately gauge the content so far since only a single route is finished. For all we know the weasel or William's route could go full TJ route and we wouldn't know since they're not even halfway through
I think what makes it weak is that its more a romance story than a horror one if that makes sense. In Echo the writers were willing to tell you to fuck off (Carl, Leo) or make it a monkey paw kind of deal (TJ). But with the Smoke Room the writer HAS to make sure all the romance options get a 'good' ending.
The porn doesn't help either, truthfully who the fuck wants to jack off in a horror game? If I want smut i will read a smut focused work half assing it like this is just worse of both worlds

>>716087275
Everything about Chase gives me a raging boner

>first games were about owning a house
>new leaf was about owning a village
>new horizon was about owning an island
the next game should be set in space and you should own a planet

>>716087137
>>716087294
midwit takes

>>716087275
Chase and Leo are both objectively shitty people. That phone prank he pulled on Leo is actually irredeemable never mind the fact the later reveal that he was still in contact with Leo while he was away so Leo couldn't even move on.
The game pretty hints several times and doesn't directly say he's schizophrenic and on meds (the possession and town influence most likely contribute to that diagnosis) but even then current possessed chase has been the "real" Chase longer then unpossessed Chase.

>>716087275
Hi Duke. But really it should, Chase is not the innocent little generic "Da Demons Made Me Do It" babby, he has been running circles (ha ha) around the whole cast for years with his "Secret" after all and is sorry only because he gets caught.

>>716088045
I think the clincher really is that in Leos good ending Chase STILL tries to go "Teehee let's still be friends~" when they meet again in the Epilogue after Leo talked about how the distance helped him "get better", but at least at that point Leo recovered enough to decline it due realizing he would just get sucked back in, i think it is something many people overlook because it is easy to see just as Chase being nice without the context of the "Chase kept contact" thing which makes it lean more into him doing the same thing again.

>>716089591
I think the best thing about that ending is that it asks for A LOT of emotional maturity from the audience to really understand why that's the best decision. It's such a painful fucking ending to read but it's legitimately the best choice for both Leo and Chase.

For a VN made for gay furfags it's definitely didn't pull some punches on tearing down the fantasy and being fucking real.