I hope you're not like one of those people, /v/

>>716069680 (OP)
Castlevania 3 Draculas Curse USA edition is the biggest dogshit I've ever played. Fuck you /v/. I beat with save states and I beat the game

I don't get this. Videogames are supposed to be fun, are you telling me there are losers who think if you literally saved and reloaded after dying or saved, left to you know, have a life, and then played again, you didn't "actually beat the game"?

Is this one of those situations in which people with ZERO accomplishments in real life try to pretend them "beating a videogayme without saving" is a life goal?
Why don't those men try to lose their virginity instead of taking finishing games as a life accomplishment

>>716069825
>I beat
you didn't. you can mark it as "watched" though

>>716069963
>try to lose their virginity
that's literally never an achievement. there are dozens of mouth breathers out there who've managed to reproduce.

>>716070303

Then why is it so difficult for you incels to get laid? :S

>>716069680 (OP)
I'm sorry anon. But I save scummed on the Mithril weapons in Shining Force 2.

>use savestates because faster than in-game save/load menus
>don't savescum challenges
>LOL U DIDNT BEA TIT
watch me care what some retard and soon-to-be trannoid thinks about my gaming habits

>>716071546
You clearly care because we can all see you seething.

>>716071684
>he thinks light humor and mockery is seething
that's a surefire sign (You) are about to troon out. congrats on your future axe wound and gash maggots!

>>716072467
Meds

>>716069680 (OP)
played trough or completed maybe, but not beaten. you did not beat the game, the game beat you.

>>716069825
How do you get filtered by a game with infinite continues?

>>716069963
Every community/hobby has a bare minimum standard you need to uphold. The bar in video games is pathetically low in comparison to say sports, woodwork or say glassworking.
yet it still filters people.
Honestly this really is a subhuman hobby never admit to a anyone you play games.

>>716070496
because most of us don't even bother.

>>716071546
>>716069963
That's fine, you played the game how you wanted, in a way that was more fun for you. There's nothing wrong with that. you still didn't beat the game though. You didn't actually beat it, though.

>>716070496
High standards really. Anyone can get laid for a 100 bucks, it's on sale, they don't turn anyone down buddy

>>716074156
If you played a retro game for the first time in 2025, forget about beating it, you didn't even really PLAY it. A random kid who played level 1 and died in the year it was released will have a deeper understanding of it than you.

>>716069680 (OP)
>uguuu I'm such a purist I play retro games the way they were intended to be played
So you play the original Japanese versions right

>>716069963
It's just like saying you beat a game after using cheat codes. Doesn't really count.
I used savestates for old games too when I was younger but after beating some NES games like Megaman, Ninja Gaiden or Castlevania without using save states, I can tell you that it's 100% cope. Once you beat those games legitimately, you're insanely good at them because you have to do replay the level or start from the beginning. It's hard but once you accept it, it isn't tedious either. Life/health suddenly has meaning

>>716071546
Nobody says anything about using savestates as legit saves, just about savescumming/rewinding.
That you're seething this much makes me question that you use savestates that way too

>>716075260
>replaying level 1 500 times isn't tedious
Terminal stages of autism. Even when I was playing it on the actual NES back in the day, even then it was tedious

>>716069680 (OP)
It doesn't matter if I'm one of those people or not. Imagine if we're talking about some old game that got save states in its re-release. I might've beaten the game we're talking about in the year it was released on genuine hardware and you still would not consider me an authority on it if my opinion on any aspect of that game differed from yours. It would not grant me even a modicum of respect from you. Probably quite the opposite. So in the end, when it comes to discussing games does it really change anything?

>>716075486
Yeah but it's not like it's ruining the experience and it fuels your improvement.
Or just take a break

>all the seething and coping
All that is asked of you is to respect the lives system. That's all. If you whine about this then you most likely save and load a state every time you get hit mid boss fight.

>>716069825
>I beat with save states
Sure you did buddy, sure you did.

>>716074156
For me it's more about saving time and not spending hours backtracking just to get to the part where I know I might die again. Some of those old jrpgs are so slow paced with high rates of encounters that you are literally just mashing the A button just to traverse the world. Save states and fast forward are amazing for letting you experience a game and being able to fit it into your schedule.

>>716076070
That's cool man! You experienced the game, and that's awesome. I get it, we all have busy lives now. You didn't BEAT it though.

>>716076170
Unless you are using cheats to skip bosses or artificially boosting stats to one shot everything, it is beating it.

>>716075486
When a game gets tedious, put it down. Got far into a run and died? Try one more time or come back to it tomorrow. Why do you need to sit down, brute force a game, and finish it in that sitting like an autismo?

>>716076070
>saving time
same retarded ass argument. it's really not saving time. if you're skipping a tough segment then you're skipping a skill check.

>>716076278
You're using tools outside of the game and circumventing the live, continue, and checkpoint system of the game. So yes, it is cheating.

>>716069963
You see, old games weren't glorified movies. They were challenges, and the fun was in beating those challenges. Save states take away the challenge so there's no point in playing those games.

>>716076278
You didn't (and couldn't) beat the game as it was originally released. You beat a modified, easier version that's much more forgiving of mistakes.

>>716069680 (OP)
As someone who used to abuse the fuck out of save states, no I didn't beat them. It was like watching a youtube video of a playthrough with bloopers.

>>716069680 (OP)
I use save states on password screens

You are allowed to use as many save states as you please to practice hard sections but since that's the case you are assumed to have mastery over all segments and therefore must make a single run through the level without save states or you haven't beaten the game.

>>716076418
>>716076434
>>716076658
Look, you're probably mad that you spent a combined total of 10 years of your life at least to playing those old games and now someone can just use save states to give themselves a chance to live life while enjoying a good gaming experience. I get that, but you have to let it go. I can see you want authority over what dictates beating a game because you probably spent more time than anyone replaying those levels to get the perfect score, but times have changed. Take the save state pill, you won't be disapointed

>>716077109
Not reading a cope paragraph.

>>716076070
Old Jarpigs are shit.

I agree 900%.

You can remedy this by playing good games instead.

>>716077078
nah i beat the game with save states

>>716076070
Do you know what I do with those games? I stop playing them. Why are you doing something you don't enjoy?

>>716077078
>You are allowed to use as many save states as you please to practice hard sections
no, you have to earn a right to figure out boss patterns. you couldn't do that shit on original hardware hence it's still cheating.

>>716077335
I enjoy every other aspect such as music, story, art, it's just some parts that can be tedious. I dont expect you to understand though considering you cant even read based on your reply making shit up out of thin air

>>716077109
That's cool and all but you still didn't beat the game

>>716069680 (OP)
I'd care more if every interaction with save state haters didn't go like this
>fuck save states, I never use them while I emulate
>same, that's why I also use RA and sync in hardcore mode to prove it; can I see your profile to see which games you've beaten without save states?
>*incomprehensible screeching and excuses*

>>716069680 (OP)
Depends on how save states are used and if they break the intended challenge of the game. For instance if you just make a save state to stop playing and just pick up where you left off later, I think that's legit. If you use save states to effectively get infinite lives without needing to restart a game from the start, that's no longer legit.

I sometimes do the latter because I have more fun than constantly repeating the first N levels just because I fail in N+1. I think this sort of design was mostly just aping arcade games which were made this way to much quarters.

>>716077603
>I enjoy every other aspect such as music, story, art
But not the part that matters, the game.

>>716069680 (OP)
I'm a retro game streamer and I'd never say I beat a game if I used save states.

>>716077791
correct, now what will you bitch about?

>>716077728
Why would I need retro achievements to bar save states if I can do it on original hardware?

>>716077957
I'm not bitching about anything. It's par course for people that use tools outside of the games. They don't actually like the games they play.

>>716074014
gahahahahaha yeah anon, i'm sure that's why

>>716076070
>hours backtracking
What fucking game?

>>716069680 (OP)
Save states are literally cheating so no, if you cheated then you didn't beat the game normally.

>FUCK DISCUSSING REDDIT TOPICS ON REDDIT. I WASS DISCUSS REDDIT THREADS ON 4CHAN WHERE I'M ALLOWED TO BE HECKIN EDGY!!!

>>716069680 (OP)
I really don't give a shit. The OG Mega Man games are incredibly tedious, so I used the rewind/save states in LC. The X games are designed so much better that I had no issue with them. X6 is better designed than every OG Mega Man game.

>>716075376
>rewinding
now that is a game remaster mechanic i really hate. even save states allowing for free saves anywhere is kind of fine but being able to rewind every mistake you do is just bullshit

>>716077964
>skipping over the part where the most important qualifier is that RA lets you actually prove it
It begins...................

>>716077613
I did. :D

>beat a game with save states
>have fun and enjoy myself
>get to watch autists on /v/ screech and shit themselves crying that I "didn't beat the game"
win-win

>>716078341
who cares

>>716078952
Cope for not having beaten the game

>>716079141

>There are people that come to a hobbiest board on video games
>They complain about casuals and the casualization of video games
>They then begin to cheat at games and use tools to play them for their casualized sensibilities

>be bad at game
>don't practice or improve
>instead use external tool to create a new, extra easy difficulty that was not in the original game
>claim to have beaten the game

>>716069680 (OP)
I don't use games to dick measure on the internet, so yeah sure. All that really matters is that you know how it plays and what happens in it.

>>716079709
if you're not immediately good at something it's not worth it

>>716079417
>everyone I don't like is all the same person