are invasions a good game mechanic? it always feels to me like the invader is either at a huge disadvantage or a cheater with no in between

>>716077890 (OP)
the faggot that fought the universe

>>716077890 (OP)
yea. every game should have invasions. in all modes.

Has he moved out yet?

>>716078264
in this economy?

>>716077890 (OP)
it's a good idea on paper but Fromsoft has never actually managed to get the implementation down perfectly, just like covenants. Demon's Souls had infinite grass munching, Dark Souls 1 original had rampant cheating, bad netcode and twinking, Dark Souls 2 had Soul Memory, Dark Souls 3 started the gank squad dynamics, and ER PvP is balanced like shit from a butt on top of generally having bad zones to invade and only being possible in gank squad environments, with very short boss runs so you can't even intercept people summoning for bosses. The closest it had ever been to being good was Bloodborne, but the horrible netcode made it a nightmarehehe to actually play. also it was generally limited on a zone by zone basis

I used to hate it but came around to it during the Dark Souls 3 era. I always got my shit pushed in by maxed-item twinks (who likely cheated the items in anyway) when I played Dark Souls, and it made me hate the mechanic. Soul Memory in DS2 fixed a lot of the issues, but had other problems. Cheaters were just as rampant though. DS3 was when I started invading, and that's when I had the most fun. Being invaded, you put yourself at the mercy of the invader not being a cheating asshole or twinked out no-life build. When you invade, it can be a real contest of skill, and DS3 felt balanced such that I was able to kill hosts or defend myself pretty reliably about half the time either way.

I haven't played as much Elden Ring, but I don't remember being invaded at all during my playthrough despite looking forward to that type of thing. I did duel people some, and that was okay, but not the same. I later tried to do some invading a few times but ended up getting gang-raped in worlds with like 3 dudes playing that just ambushed me.

Co-op against bosses is way better than any of this shit. Praise the sun.

>>716077890 (OP)
>Player cries about certain invaders using cheap builds on stream
>Constantly baits them out by using humanity and shit talking them

What leads someone to do this for years?

no, any souls' game pvp is hindered by abhorrent netcode and poor matchmaking which leads to high latency and lag

seamless tried to resolve some of this for elden ring and its still horrible, combined with no anticheat leads to not only bad connections but far more cheaters

if these were fixed it'd be one of the most fun games on the market:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6qa7aptE1Q

sadly, it wont happen, and we'll be stuck with pve forever
i doubt from will bother to fix this for duskbloods seeing as they're okay with it running at 30fps on a handheld anyway

>>716077890 (OP)
>Grown ass man with facial hair living with his parents
None of you anons are like that.........right?

>>716078885
seamless is pretty alright provided the host has a good connection and you live relatively close by. me and all my friends live in the same small state on the east coast so our seamless runs are pretty good latency wise. I imagine it gets much worse the further out people are from each other though

>>716078926
Fuck no. I grew up in an abusive home, so I practically skipped out the door the day I turned 18.

>>716079058
sure but in practice it fails, most of my seamless invasions are 200ms+, the few invasions ive had with <100ms were pretty fun though, i still enjoy it and do silly cosplay/meme builds for fun invasions but i cant understand people who take the pvp "seriously" and tryhard with estoc/coperot meta shit


usually when i invade and someone tries that shit in a 3+ man gank i turn on cheats

>>716078926
my brother is 52 and moved back in to take care of our parents

>>716078926
im also going bald

I feel bad for Britbong. Lolcow or not, he's legit mentally ill and I don't think what he really "gets" how to behave.

>>716078926
my parents kicked me and my brother as soon as we turned 18, I lived with a friend until I could get my own place, my brother just disappeared and now my parents are crying because he might be dead kek

>>716077890 (OP)
>are invasions a good game mechanic?
No, I think they are a failed experiment.
In the first weeks of Demons' Souls, it was amazing fun when everyone was still figuring out how the game actually worked and skill levels for pvp were roughly equal.
But even after a month, let alone several years of souls games, invasions became a horrible idea in hindsight.
You have people who don't care about PvP at all and you have gear that is objectively good in PvE but can be borderline useless in PvP.
This just leads to PvE players getting matched up against people who love the PvP and make dedicated PvP builds and have hundreds if not thousands of hours of PvP experience.
It's a recipe for desaster for the PvE player.

And from a PvP standpoint it's not a good system since most people who look for a proper competition are in the arena or just play a proper fighting game. So all you have left for invasions is the types of people who even after hundreds of hours still take joy in crushing noobs who can barely fight back.
The devs realised this and toned invading done more and more and gave the invader more and more disadvantages which makes them unhappy as well.

At the end of the day, Miyazaki just wanted to give the host a mini boss. For DeS they considered giving players control over mobs but it was too hard to pull off so they went with the player invasions. Either way, invaders were meant to be overcome. But players want to win so I think the premise was flawed from the start as soon as it wasn't the invader puppeting a mob but fighting with his own character.

>>716077890 (OP)
theyre fun, loved invading boomers in their sniper elite campaigns. between 5 and resistance ive done around 1000 invasions id guess and in that time ive encountered only 1 player that knew what he was doing.

literal enemy at the gates kino

>>716078926
I moved out but in this economy it's truly a meme.

>>716080502
>>At the end of the day, Miyazaki just wanted to give the host a mini boss. For DeS they considered giving players control over mobs but it was too hard to pull off so they went with the player invasions. Either way, invaders were meant to be overcome. But players want to win so I think the premise was flawed from the start as soon as it wasn't the invader puppeting a mob but fighting with his own character.
Yeah, you can't expect other players to just put on an act and give the host a good show.
Sure, some meme invaders do this but in general people try to win. It was never going to work as intended.
also lol @ >>716080710 for proving you right about invaders just looking to crush noobs.

>>716078926
I have moved out two times, both times I had to rent a room with a bunch of strangers
I'm working remotely and living with them for now but mostly because I just don't feel like going through the trouble of finding an apartment again

>>716077890 (OP)
anyone who makes these kind of retarded "hurrr durr is x good for y?" shitty thinly veiled excuses to post some gay ass completely unrelated to videogames shit should be rounded up and executed on the street, it's no different from the fucking nigger retarded "ahurrrdurr wut r da puh lih tih cull im plih cay shuns uv dis?" shit that was rampant on the main board
stop being a retarded nigger

>>716078407
>Dark Souls 1 original had rampant cheating
Cheating has been and will be rampant to the level of being the norm in every single soultrash game. Not just outright hacking, but lag switches, glitch abuse, hacked-in infinite supply of otherwise limited items (Siegbräu spam in DS3), etc.

I'm not exaggerating. Anyone halfway-competitive in DS3 PvP will use things like FAP ring switching or Estus cancel glitch. Anyone doing invasions regularly will sue CE or Honest Merchant mod to have an infinite resupply of Siegbräu and such items. Youtubers like ChaseTheBro and FighterPL were cheating like this and with even more nasty glitches all the time, and everyone accepted it as the norm.

>>716078926
I mean I have a job and the money to move out, but what for?
Renting a place would be just a waste of money

>>716078926
I don't really get what's the point of leaving your parents home just to rentcuck. I'd rather just have a healthy relationship with ol' mom and pops.

>>716078926
Free room and board, can't complain.

>>716083040
>I'd rather just have a healthy relationship with ol' mom and pops.
living with your parents for longer has this as a basic requirement to not make it hell for everyone involved.

>>716078926
Not anymore but I did stay with them until my mid twenties so I could pay off my student debt in full and have a comfortable six figures saved up.

>>716082983
>>716083040
>>716083384
Whats your plan for the future? Just to inherit your parent's shit when they die?

>>716085227
Based, nothing wrong with using your folks as a launch pad.

>>716077890 (OP)
>your dad and I wanna do it on the couch, so don't come out

>>716078926
I live in a third world country so living alone is out of the question. Thankfully my parents are great, so I don't mind them.

>>716085843
I am never going to take a mortgage.
I will pay a house cash, get fucked usurers, fuck you.

>>716086076
This would be a great way to get a deadbeat kid to move out.

>>716086210
https://youtube.com/shorts/-3rji5j8Ta4?si=j8GociS1Jr_a87ln

>>716078926
No, I shaved

>>716077890 (OP)
Isn't this the faggot that sent some ethot dick pics where he was using his mum's hair tie as a cock ring?

>>716078134
>invasion in fifa
Kino

>manlet tears hasn't tripfagged here in over 15 years

>>716078926
Im 35 and live at home. My mom has a brain tumor and cant fare on her own, I do all the work around the house and buy everything, my younger brother also lives at home and hes 32, he helps out but his work doesnt afford as much time, but he wants to help pay for things and be there. Im not even upset at the situation, I was living and I was living hand to mouth before I moved back because rent was insane and the price of shit has only gone up.

>>716078926
They're letting me live with them while I attend college but they're kicking me out as soon as I'm done

>>716077890 (OP)
When it's not tied to weapon/flame/armor ascension it's awful. If you had to invade or be invaded by people with characters roughly as strong as yours it'd be fine but none of the invaders I've ever seen have been interested in a fair fight.

>>716079892
man am i ever glad i dont have your life

>>716078926
All my coworkers live in apartments alone and they struggle just to add 5k to their savings in a year. Why would I not want to live at home if my parents don't hate me

>>716078926
My mom is probably going to be moving into the spare bedroom pretty soon. She is old and smoked for years. It's not looking great to be quite honest with you. I would rather her be here, being taken care of by family that loves her than stuck in some hospice being beaten and/or raped by nigger orderlies.

>>716078926
Dont move out unless youre moving in with someone, I dont care what age you are. Parents that kick their kids out and just expect them to land right and keep coming back every so often are fucked in ther head. Help them get the resources to move out, dont just throw them out and expect love in return for it. I seriously think this mentality is why there is so many mass shooting ins America, why the fuck are parents so eager to get rid of their children there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdYYKI6Sjnw

>>716077890 (OP)
>laughs it off and keeps shitstreaming
based desu senpai

>>716087026
It's rough watching your folks fall apart but it's a billion times better you being there having to see it than the alternatives.

>>716085045
It worked for millenia so I don't see how that's bad.

>>716088631
it isn't bad, it's just not a scenario everyone lives under as many families can be abusive, and so moving out is the only respite from that. so much so that many would prefer the financial burden of pricey bills to get out of it.

I have been on 4chan since 2011 and I still have no fucking idea who this is and why he makes people seethe

>>716089464
>seethe
Laugh. We're laughing at this tiny lil' ladette.

>>716089123
Well yeah but that amounts for like 1% of households, really.

Invasions in ds and ds2 have been responsible for some of the most fun, infuriating, and funny moments ive had gaming. They are unbalanced, unfair, janky(p2p net code loel), and in many ways pretty poorly thought out. Objectively they are not a good mechanic, but theyre fun and i wouldnt have changed them in anyway (except maybe make coop with friends easier). If soul does exist, then its a product of aspects that are too ambitious for their own good, and i think that describes the invasion feature quite well.

>>716089661
if only that was true, world would be a much better place

>>716078926
No.
Instead I'm a grown-ass man living alone on neetbucks playing vidya all day long, surrounded by plastic anime pvc butts.
Is that really any better?

>>716079892
>my brother just disappeared and now my parents are crying because he might be dead kek
Well deserved, that boomer mentality needs to die. Sorry for your bro

>>716077890 (OP)
Man up faggot

>>716078926
just shave bro

>>716078926
I am 31 and live with my parents, my younger brother is 29 and lives with us too. So does my grandmother. My parents got enough money from a settlement to put a down payment on a house but realistically cannot afford it on their own (my dad is on disability, my mom doesn't have an income). The rent my brother and I pay allow them to afford the house which will continue be in our family after they pass (which I hope will be long into the future), and I enjoy having a good and close relationship with my parents. I make my own dinner, I work my own job, I clean my room, I do my own laundry, etc. I am more like a roommate than just a son being taken care of by them, but yeah I still live at home.
Also it is worth keeping the house because they somehow managed to buy it right as the housing market had a big dip and the value of the home has risen by like 40-50% so at this point it is an investment too and will continue to go up because the property market here in South Florida is always gonna be hot.

>>716089464
>guy is obsessed with being trying to be internet famous
>does all kinds of shit like attempting to copyright trollface (despite having no real claim to it), making second life trolling videos, generally being a huge attention whore
>he's also a tripfag on /v/ that has decided to dedicate his life to shitting up the board
>at one point it got so bad that there would be entire threads that were just him replying to himself, pretending to be multiple different people, arguing with himself
>eventually someone gets sick of his shit and doxxes him
>people call his phone, send pizzas, the usual stuff
>part of the dox also revealed his height
>he was 5'4
>everyone relentlessly bullies him for being a midget
>stops using his tripcode out of shame
>he has never given up on the internet fame thing, still streams to a small audience while living with his mom, only people who pay attention to him are autists on KF
>also still occasionally spergs out

>>716091118
You forgot the whole story arch where he was obsessed with Brittney Muttni and blew up her DMs with picks of his cock which she promptly posted online. Then someone noticed the hair tie used as a makeshift cock ring, and matched it to a photo of Manlet Tear's parent's bathroom he had previously posted online. So someone sent an email to his mother with the evidence that her son was using her hair accessories to masturbate.

>>716077890 (OP)
an invader always has the initiative
they are the ones who get to prepare for an attack in advance, and stack as many odds in their favor as they can before they invade you
the only way to stop them from being infinitely OP is to so completely and thoroughly nerf them until they can't even threaten you significantly

>>716078926
I got lucky and had enough to get a $450k house last year, had been working for 6 years at that point. Every other house in this development is sitting at around $600k-$1.5M. No idea how you're supposed to move out in this area of the US. And no, fuck renting, that shit is for jews.

>>716089464
Attentionwhore. Always trying to pick up internet fights against people who are actually funny (Daniel, Smegma King, the guy that does Estevan SL videos, etc)

>>716077890 (OP)
Yeah it's fun, only shitters whine about it.

>>716091118
Should add that he mass copyright struck every other (SL) troll to death, even the ones that tolerated him, killing the entire genre and then gloated about it

>>716088631
>It worked for millenia
In shitty parts of the world. In Northwestern Europe (the people who created the first world) kids become adults and move out. The countries where kids just keep living with their family and extended families all live on top of each other are the shitty parts of Europe (Southern Europe, Eastern Europe, Ireland). Why would you follow those dirty retards?

>>716078926
Moving out is a fucking meme. You pool your resources, move into a bigger house together. You invest, bring in wives/husbands, develop the clan, build a compound. Everyone contributes and you all get to enjoy luxuries you would never have on your own.