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Would something like this be possible in real life in the future like ever? Or is it just vidya magic?

yes

no

Something something if it's high tech enough it might as well be magic.

Maybe

Whoever wrote the description texts should have been fired though.

>the oxygen layer is only 10 feet thick

so if you climbed a ladder high enough you would suffocate to death?

>arm length: 46 km
>arm width: 330 m

That's possible with today's tech, good luck getting funding though.

>>716083439
Aliens have big feet

>>716083159
>>716083230
>>716083312

I don't know

>>716083072 (OP)
no
a more realistic scenario would be omega where it's systems are in a constant state of disrepair

>>716083072 (OP)
It looks cool but it seems like a fucking logistical nightmare

>>716083072 (OP)
it would take 50 blacks to destroy that entire thing

>>716084021
The Keepers take care of everything for them.

>>716083072 (OP)
Seems like a stupid idea to keep these many people on a one megastructure in space (and theyre obviously not stuck on it like we are on Earth)

What if something goes horribly wrong with it. Just split it up into 15 smaller ones for safety.

>>716083730
>citadel
>not possible

>omega
>dystopian shithole deep into space
>that's possible

i'm tired

>>716083512
>That's possible with today's tech
No way is that possible with current technology. Building a megastructure like that, getting it to work and sending it out to space cannot be possible. I am happy to be proven wrong

>>716083072 (OP)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/O%27Neill_cylinder

Mass Effect was directly inspired by this.

>>716084317
wasnt omega founded at the center of an asteroid belt mining operations?

you don't think a city that's occupied by 90% miners is gonna be full of scumbags?

>>716083072 (OP)
Shit like this is possible now.

It is just not profitable.

You know maybe it'd be a good idea to just silently nuke the leviathan planet from orbit I don't think leaving them around is a good idea

>>716084816
I actually built one in my back yard.

>>716084632
Just build it in space. It's a hard engineering problem for sure and a lot of people will die in the process but it's not impossible.

>>716084712
Thanks, I was looking for something like this /to read more of

>>716085159
>and a lot of people will die in the process
pajeets will risk it for sure, especially after having seen them get killed in the process of building those soccer stadiums for rich Arabs

>>716084732
I never argued that it wasn't a shithole. It's just that the shitholes always tend to be possible while the utopias don't

>>716083072 (OP)
It's possible but I don't see any real overlap between it being practical and necessary.

a citadel just flew over my house

Arabs are already building something like this

>>716085576
Doesn't the Citadel function as some sort of intergalactic UN? I can see a future where if men is advanced enough, something like that might be build idk

>>716085637
It was already cancelled.

>>716083657
can you repeat the question?

>>716085690
Yeah but it wasn't built for that purpose.

>>716084308
The same argument can be made for a planet. Did you know that just a single rock from space can wipe everyone out?

>>716085637
you're such a retard in so many levels

>>716085830
Yes it was.

>>716085756
You're not the boss of me

>>716085881
Did you read the part when i specifically mentioned not being stuck there

>>716083159
>>716083230
>>716083312
>>716083657
>>716085756
>>716086058

>>716083072 (OP)
Its theoretically possible, depending on size.
Bigger the circumference of the cylinder the less magic materials you have to come up with to keep it from flying apart, because you don't need it to rotate as fast to maintain 1g simulated gravity. I'm just an amateur but I'm sure someone out there knows the formula.

>>716085637
What the fuck is the point of building this in the middle of a desert with zero valuable resources?

>>716085637
That was an irredeemable failure on basically every level. It was a retarded concept to begin with.

>>716083072 (OP)
Think about the logistics of making something like this alone, OP. You would need an entire planet's worth of resources if not more than that to make this and you would also need a power source potent enough to sustain it and all of it's facilities.

>>716085720
>>716086535
It's actually cancelled? How much money did they waste?

>>716084632
By "with today's technology" usually futurists mean "its nothing we can't do with several billion dollars in funding to engineering departments, but its not breaking known physics"
We could make a much smaller, self contained version of it with today's tech and a lot of funding. But to make something that big we'd need to basically invent half of what keeps it together. The biggest man made structures are sky scrapers and aircraft carriers. This thing could hold several hundred of each.

>>716086492
>the point
Sand people with more money than they know what to do with and not enough braincells to do anything smart. The point is look at how much money we have, look at how modern and advanced our shithole country is (it isnt but look how much money we have), please be impressed enough to stop talking about our abhorrent culture, failed society and relentless violations of human rights and international law.

That is the point.

>>716086769
So they are all retarded sociopaths following a goofball insane religion? Why are they still in power? Why haven't they been conquered yet and their retardation stopped?

>>716085637
Remember when blacks were going to build that mega-uganda? From Black Panther or what was that movie. Go google what it looks like now.

>>716086637
Not entirely canceled, they're just toning it way down with the goals and expectations.
>How much money did they waste?
Like half a trillion by now I think

>>716086384
>having fun is le reddit!
Go back

>>716086492
Arabs flexing.
To understand the psychology of most of the third world, imagine you are constantly mogged by a dude who is better than you in every way. Smarter, stronger, more money, more attractive, more charisma etc. In every way that person is better. So you act out in order to either get this guy's attention or try to one up him in some way. Its classic manlet behavior but societal manletism.

>>716086841
>Like half a trillion by now
And it's still a pocket change for them just because they literally were born in the right place.

>>716086901
They're doing it to diversify their economies. They need to invest as much money as possible to create shit like this

>>716086901
and the immorality of their behavior doesn't bother them at all?

>>716086821
>So they are all retarded sociopaths following a goofball insane religion?
Yeah
>Why are they still in power?
They have money and oil, so the rest of the world has to lick their dicks

>>716087025
Why not just take the oil from them?

>>716086825
I can't find it. Post it

>>716087110
Because in 2025 things are not as simple as marching your army into another country and taking whatever you want from them

>>716086582
It does require a lot of resources, but gram for gram, its a more efficient use of that matter than living on a planet. The surface area alone is massively increased compared to using 90% of the mass to generate gravity like a planet.
And most of the power for it will be coming from solar collectors, since that surface area on the outside I'd imagine is covered in either photovoltaics or collection mirrors boiling water 24/7.

>>716086993
What do you consider to be immoral about their behavior?

>>716087110
Because it's not ours and we're not niggers who steal? You can call others savages, but how are you any different if you steal shit? We do business.

>>716086993
They don't see it as immoral.
Which is obviously a huge fucking problem.
But trying to teach sand primitives how to live only ever succeeded once, and the christian experiment doesn't seem like its going to be repeated any time soon.

>>716086867
>fun
>actual loser tier levels of attempts at humor
don't ever come back here again

>>716083072 (OP)
What about THIS?

>>716087254
But they are awful, horrible people, it would be morally better for them to not have this power.

>>716083072 (OP)
We don't even have robot gfs yet

>>716087404
They kill gays and put women in their place. How the fuck are they bad people?

>>716087390
have fun mining and transporting several orders of magnitude more metal than you can find on and in earth

>>716086993
>never had to work a single nano-second in their lives
>have no concept of money or struggle or survival or sharing or personal growth or basically anything
>morality

>>716087161
google wakanda cancelled or something

>>716087596
Just gonna lift it off my star, nigga.

>>716087714
This was some of the funniest shit ever. All that ended up being built was a single mishapen pathetic excuse of a building. A real testament of nigger ingenuity.

>>716087714
KEK
I remember that Akon never made another song to make this stupid shit and then he disappeared.

>>716087714
I don't understand how people can see shit like this and not recognize the combination of extreme egotism and low intelligence niggers have

>>716087483
That’s never happening, even if the technology is ready. Society won’t allow it

>>716087945
People have been waking up to that recently. Social media is full of nigger fatigue lately.

>>716085690
The idea of bumping into other species like star trek is never going to happen.

>>716088061
Well if that ever gets through birth rates are going to plummet to rock bottom so it's probably for the best.

>>716083072 (OP)
It would take basically all the mineable metal on earth, so no.

>>716088285
I mean if we are at the level of be able to build that surely we could get it from asteroids

>>716087284
You're miserable and are going to die alone.

>>716088285
Maybe if we could make a mining operation on another planet

>>716088061
"Society" can't even keep the AI genie in the bottle and they could theoretically just pull the plug on big models just by shutting them down forcefully.
All the huffing and puffing for years about how corporations and government will keep tech out of the little guy's hands in order to rule over them has proven completely false. Open source projects and smaller companies are competing in real time with these behemoths and even if they won't win in open confrontation, they're winning in specific applications.

If your robo gf fantasy doesn't need a body its basically here, depending on how lifelike you want the responses to be. If you want a body I'm sure we're less than 2 years away from a RealDoll with pre-loaded AI personality. Big tech is testing AI servants that can work in the home today right now. All that shit just has to be put together.

>>716088147
Unfortunately alien life would suck to encounter IRL no matter how friendly they are, both of our species would have loads of pathogens and bacteria we have developed an immunity to that would be like smallpox 2.0 unleashed

until LOTS of medical advancements are made, like hundreds of years worth after we discover each other, fucking alien pussy won't be possible without dying a horrible death

>>716088443
>both of our species would have loads of pathogens and bacteria we have developed an immunity to that would be like smallpox 2.0 unleashed
>Literal retard speaks about things he doesn't understand
Alien life won't even have DNA as we understand it. It will be a different set of chemicals doing similar things. Any pathogen or bacteria won't be able to even interact with our biology and vice versa.

>>716088669
>life that originated on a different planet wouldn't have DNA
what

>>716088285
>>716088358
>>716088390
Star lifting is how you get that much raw material.
Its a hell of an engineering feat to do, but the basic principle is just a set of bellows. You get a shitload of hydrogen and you use industrial scale particle accelerators to make heavier shit out of it. Which, if you're building in stellar orbit, or considering building something that could house several Earth's worth of population, you can do.

>>716088709
He's a little retarded, don't mind him.

>>716088841
>Its a hell of an engineering feat to do
And literally centuries away from our current technology

>>716088709
DNA isn't a catch all term for self replicating genetic information. Its Earth's very specific formulation of proteins that do that. And there is no real scientific reason to think that other combinations of proteins can't achieve the same thing. DNA is made up of the proteins it is largely because they were the first to do it as efficiently as it needed to, and coincidence.
An alien world will necessarily have different ratios of proteins and chemicals in its own specific circumstances of primordial soup. Whatever happens to come together to form their own version of "DNA" has a microscopic chance of being the same set of proteins, organized the same way as our DNA.

>>716083072 (OP)
Fuck no and I can tell you with certainly we will never leave this planet and live on another one.

There's too much things that can go wrong.
We will die here. I know it. But that's just how it goes.

>>716089119
Wouldn't this mean that the DNA of every single different species on Earth should be radically different at a fundamental level?

>>716089124
>Fuck no we can't get to North America
>There's too many things that can go wrong

>Fuck no we can't get to the moon
>There's too many things that can go wrong

>>716089124
We won't colonize other star systems and all that sci-fi fantasy shit, that's for sure. But there definitely will be humans living on the moon and mars.

>>716083072 (OP)
Possible? Yes
Probable? Not for thousands of years

Pretty sure the Citadel was made by the Reapers who are basically godlike beings so we are very far away from becoming that.

>>716089209
No because every species is descended from the first few strands of DNA.
Every species on Earth has a common descendent of non-living self replicating proteins. Because the first time that happened it was so overwhelmingly more efficient than everything else it outcompeted it.

>>716087714
For me it's the barely mentioned subplot of them going to the Chinese for the planning of their black empowerment city and getting a goofy 'futuristic' rendering that would obviously be complete hell to live in and maintain even if it had been built.

>>716089316
First we need to go to Mars, which is not easy. Space travel completely fucks with the human body, physically and psychologically. And the trip to Mars is very long.

Of course it's impossible, holy shit. Imagine taking the whole of Manhattan and spinning it faster than a washing machine. Only a brainless person would imagine something like that and think, "Huh... that's possible".

>>716089209
No, they all have a common ancestor. The aliens would not share a common ancestor with us.

>>716089454
>fucks with the human body,
>physically
Yes.
>and psychologically.
Just get a crew of autists.

>>716087714
Even if by some miracle this retarded project pulled through. Niggers would absolutely not be able to maintain it. That shit would become a post apocalyptic rusted over shantytown in a matter of months.

>>716083512
It's not. We don't have any materials that insanely strong.

>>716087714
Man, some African used all this money to build a real empire to traffic drugs, oppress and kill other Africans. The people who fell for this scam are probably indirectly responsible for at least 1,000 nigger deaths.

>>716087173
>And most of the power for it will be coming from solar collectors, since that surface area on the outside I'd imagine is covered in either photovoltaics or collection mirrors boiling water 24/7.
It all boils down to water, doesn't it?

>>716089363
Shouldn't there be newly formed competitors to DNA constantly happening in the ocean then? Even if DNA was more efficient and gave rise to all the organisms we see today, the processes that created it have to still be happening somewhere.

>>716089668
The bigger the structure, the slower you have to spin it to maintain your 1g.
At a certain breakpoint, steel can manage it, but I don't know what that point is.
I do know certain sizes of O'Neil Cylinders and Stanford Toruses are possible with current material sciences.

>>716086867
if it had been in full nigger sequence it would have been fine, but split over like that...
probably the most reddit thing i've seen all month

>>716089831
That might work if DNA hadn't also been refining itself for the last billion-ish years.
And random floating self replicating proteins can't really compete with fully fledged, refined organisms that feed off protein chains.

We're fairly certain whatever process made the first DNA, whether it was random chance or a number of theories involving some proto chemical process (like clay or crystals), it was still a long shot to produce DNA. So DNA had a lot of time to refine, and likely competed with itself for a long time before even becoming single celled organisms.

>>716089520
It is entirely allowed by physics. We're just not at that level of tech and won't be for a long time, but that doesn't mean it's impossible. Moving faster than light is impossible, building something very big isn't.

>>716085159
ok jeet

>>716090246
So what, it was just so unlikely that it hasn't happened since?

>>716083072 (OP)
Whose to say what humanity could accomplish in 200, 500, or 1000 years? The citadel in ME is specifically a relic from ancient beings with far more advanced technology than what was available to to any of the known civilizations. In the short term it'd be more feasible to hollow out an asteroid trapped in a planet or moon's orbit. Mass Effect had tons of space stations built into asteroids like omega that were made with mostly 2300's tier technology.

>>716090531
It was so unlikely that by the time it happened again there was shit that ate "new DNA" before it has a chance to establish itself.
First across the finish line takes the whole prize, no room for other winners.
Earth formed about 4.5 billion years ago. Life formed around 1 billion years ago. Even being generous and saying it took 1-2 billion years for the conditions for abiogenesis to happen (we don't know what those are) thats still 2 billion or so years for it to happen even once.

>>716083072 (OP)
everything you can imagine will most likely be possible at some far flung distant point in the future, just look at the insane advancement that has occurred in 100 years, and we're still regularly finding out that things that we thought were true that we used to make those advancements are actually just entirely wrong and we didn't understand the data or were missing vital parts, which will in turn lead to more advancements, yadda yadda repeat forever

>>716090882
So the environments it could happen in are so saturated with competing DNA based organisms that even if it happened again, they'd just get butchered instantly?

>>716086867
quoting some sitcom intro isn’t funny, it’s brain dead reddit humor. If someone pulled this shit anytime a question was asked I’d immediately hate them. Do you think reciting commercial jingles is funny too?

>>716090882
>>716090246
>>716089363
>>716089119
>>716088669
retards will believe this shit but will argue forever against the existence of God despite the insane amount of evidence and rationale supporting Him

>>716083439
>Whoever wrote the description texts should have been fired though.
True. I must have read the words "Tidal locked" at least 200 times across the three games. They may as well have shoved that checkbox up near basic info like the planet circumference with how often it showed up.

>>716090996
Pretty much yes.
Life is so prolific there is basically no place you can go on earth without it. And most of it is single celled shit that subsists on the same random proteins that would form new DNA. They break those proteins down to feed themselves.
Hell life is so stupidly good and being alive in weird places they just found it living deeper in the crust than we thought possible. Just chilling between microscopic rock pores and hibernating. So there just is nowhere abiogenesis could occur a second time that it wouldn't instantly be eaten by something else.

Ok, when can we harness singularities?

>>716091272
>>716090882
>>716090246
>>716089363
>>716089119
>>716088669
Intredasting, thank you for the biology lesson, my ignorance shrinks a little more.

>>716091367
And, when can we use them...

>>716083072 (OP)
can you colony drop?

>>716091367
Probably around the time doing so becomes more useful than Dyson swarming stars.
So a really fucklong time from now.

What do you even mean by "harness"? Extract energy from hawking radiation? Use its gravity for shit?

>>716091423
No problem anon, I love talking about this stuff.

>>716091617

>Heavy Breathing

>>716091367
Theoretically possible but it wouldn't look like that. There's a real life physics exploit that hypothetically lets you get energy from them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penrose_process

>>716091456
To dust planets?

>>000000000000000000000000000000716091181
Evidence? But you said that there's supposed to be zero evidence because otherwise it fucks up "free will" or something.

duplicitous fucks

>>716091367
>>716091456
>>716091945
Was Foundation any good or was it the crap that I expected it to be? But with pretty space senes?

>>716091621
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=by4n9NXvEG4&pp=ygUTRm91bmRhdGlvbiBzZWFzb24gMw%3D%3D

>>716092078
>Gaytheist can't even quote properly
lol

>>716085162
That pic is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_torus, which is related but a different thing.

The citadel is basically space magic. It was discovered thousands of years ago and the ending of the series relies on an entire section of it still being undiscovered. Even taking just the first game as canon the plot still relies on nobody knowing what it actually functions as. It's just a cool spectacle piece.

>>716092237
>start video
>see blacks
>close video

>>716092105
Yes...and no. As you can see, they fucked up Trantors scale...badly

>>0000000000000000000000000000000716092241
I refuse to give (You)s to christtrannies.

>>716092482
I read somewhere that they decided to use some sort of immortality tech to keep the shows characters alive instead of switching POV across eras.
Is that true? If so I can't condone it. I will not even give it a pirate.

>>716083072 (OP)
If all those skyscrapers were built by the aliens that built the citadel, up to what point to they let you decorate the interior of your apartment? Can you bring pets?

>>716092484
Because you are a brainlet who can't debate properly. God is real and you are unable to prove otherwise.

>>716092578
Yes, Harri is, quite literally, living nano data

>>716086692
Most "technology" is just the result of the slow buildup of manufacturing and logistics capacity, and most discoveries were made by randos in all kinds of fields. "Scientist" is a bullshit job.

>>716085720
It would have been possibly the most retarded megaproject ever.

>>716086637
>How much money did they waste?
You mean laundered.

>>716091181
theres nothing wrong with creationism, I just think jews werent right

>>716089552
>the only humanoids we can send through the firmament are homunculi
makes sense

>>716092652
Is there anything sadder than larping a christcuck on 4chan of all places?

>>716086492
Saudi arabia wants to transition their economy to tourism because the west wants to be free from the oil economy. Saudi arabia wants to be protected by the US from Iran because Iran hates monarchies. But SA has to balamce the fact that they are a shithole with modern day slavery, and an islamist country that hates israel with being a US ally and being seen as a place to visit.
Hence the megastructure tourism gamble.

>>716096108
Have they considered that maybe Islam is retarded and every single country on the planet where it is the dominant belief system is a shithole?

>>716096273
not like there are many better options these days

>>716096273
It has nothing to do with Islam. If white people had adopted Islam, white people would still be successful. It's racial thing. It's inside of the blood of white people. Basically, white people are superior on a genetic level.

>>716083072 (OP)
I was very recently thinking about the Citadel from ME out of nowhere. Good to see this thread
Why don't game dev have these kind of original ideas anymore. I remember younger me being awed at it. Pretty good writing whoever came up with the idea

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>>716087254
Oh... OHHHHHHHHH!!! I'M GONNA VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTE!!!!!

>>716096576
go back to sucking dicks on reddit

>>716096879
dont be rude

>>716087831
>the same fags that say building the pyramids in the modern era is impossible, are the same fags that say the future is space elevatirs and dyson soheres and star harvesters
Normgroids really deserve no rights or free will.

>>716083072 (OP)
no, not without some magical Element Zero we don't know about.
why would we ever want to build a deep space station in a planetless system anyway?

>>716096576
>Why don't game dev have these kind of original ideas anymore
I wouldn't call the Citadel in any way original.
Its just a big ONeil cylinder. Its only original because its the first time you were exposed to the idea.
But the answer to why devs don't have original ideas is because devs aren't fans anymore. Check out interviews for actually somewhat original games, like Alpha Centauri or Marathon or even Half Life. Those devs were pulling ideas from a wealth of different books and stories. They were creative because they were exposed to hundreds of different science fiction ideas and crafted something they though was cool from a combination of everything.
Even if you have someone like that on your team, the likelihood their ideas are going to shine through after 3 layers of management and 2 of executive and publisher meddling is basically zero.

>>716085520
>It's just that the shitholes always tend to be possible while the utopias don't

Even ingmae the Citadel only works because the Reapers use it a s a giant honey trap. Its not built or run by humans or other intelligent species. It was built by Reapers and is maintained by their bots.

>>716086214
you edited that part in

>>716097052
>>the same fags that say building the pyramids in the modern era is impossible, are the same fags that say the future is space elevatirs and dyson soheres and star harvesters
What the hell kind of retards are you talking to?
Building the pyramids is extremely doable today, the fucking Egyptians did it with copper and bronze and basic leverage tools of course we could do it today with steel and cranes and shit. Rogan is a retard and so is anyone who says shit like that.
The future IS in space. But it will likely look a lot less impressive than what we're imaging today.

>>716085159
building it in space is a given with its enormous weight. that means you'd need an entire space industry to build all but the most rare components you can afford to launch off planets.
industrializing space would be harder than our own industrial revolution, even with Earth as a crutch. it would take decades if not centuries of focus to even try to build something that big.

>>716087714
>blacks thought they could actually build that
KEKAROO

>>716088125
Just two more decades!

>>716086384
YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW

>>716097464
You don't start with something the size of the Citadel.
You start with shit like the ISS and bootstrap up.
You drag an asteroid to L1 or L2 and hollow it out, spin it up and fill it with air from water vapor, mostly with a small team using bot swarms.
Once you have that little primitive colony they build shit in orbit more and more.
Etc.
The industrial revolution didn't go from farmers to Ford Motors either.

>>716085637
END OF RINE.

>>716086867
Except it is. Go back nigger

>>716088360
Project more Reddit niggerfaggot. Livestream your suicide.

>>716087945
normies have been conditioned their whole life to worship niggers. They can't see reality

>>716097609
Reapers always intend the Citadel to be the seat of government of whatever civilization takes it over. That's why it's their mass relay, so the invasion starts with a decapitation strike.

>>716088417
That's only because "society" has been operating on debt for decades assuming there would be more people AND more technology around in the future. Now they can't let either of those two things not be true so you get immigration and ridiculous uncontrolled tech. For now it beats forcing thorium and molten salt reactors everywhere with people like trump going "let's bomb that!"

>>716088417
>All the huffing and puffing for years about how corporations and government will keep tech out of the little guy's hands in order to rule over them has proven completely false

holy fucken retard. Guess how I know that you have zero understanding of electrical engineering. All me how I know

>>716083072 (OP)
With AI controlled autonomous machines, yes I think so.

The human labor to build something like this is unfeasible, but a robot army of construction workers? Yes I think something like that can be possible.

>>716089209
Toys is how we know humans evolved on this planet. We share DNA (or RNA)with all other species on earth.

>>716085637
>alright raven, your next objective is to infiltrate Big Wall.

>>716083072 (OP)
that looks so cool
this is why videogames are cool
sadly retards want videogames to be realistic

>>716098946
It always comes back to the magic robots that do all the real work, except now they need to do all the thinking, too.
>B-b-but muh art! MUH INDOMITABLE HUMAN SPIRIT!!!
LMAO. All the AI is good for is churning out infinite dogshit. The actual labor is done by the REAL robots, namely you, and the magic is torture. Welcome to nightmare piss world.

>>716087617
I'm a trust fund kid that never had to work but does it anyway just to easily hit on college girls and my wagie brothers are all disgusting human beings. Their suffering just makes them bitter unlike the millionaire kids I spent my life with

>>716099658
shhh troglodyte

>>716096464
>Serbs convert to Islam
>become brown Bosniaks even without miscegenation
religion and race are intertwined

sci-fi sucks balls. we should go back, not forward. abolish all civilization and go back to living in contact with nature and by her will.

>>716102259
Bosniaks are not any browner than Serbs. I know a couple of Bosniaks who are blond. anecdotal of course