Thread 716111296

MYSTERY NIGGAS

oh, another e-celeb worship thread

>>716111296 (OP)
MYSTERY NIGGAS REVEALED NIGGAS

>>716111296 (OP)
Post your favorite
>weapon
>boss
>area
>enemy
>npc

>>716111296 (OP)
>can I copy your homework?
>yeah just change it up a bit so it doesn't look obvious you copied
>ok

>>716111820
Whenever I try to do something different I fall back to the tonitrus

>>716111296 (OP)
Tolkien Estate should've sued

DOG NIGGAS

>>716112002
>>716112064
>black knights
>shadows of yharnam
>forlorn
>night cavalry
what am i missing here

>>716111820
>weapon
mlgs
>boss
ludwig
>area
clocktower
>enemy
basic bitch yharnamite
AWAY AWAY
THIS IS A DAMN CURSE!
FOUL BEAST
>npc
doll (cute)

>>716111820
moonlight sword
cursed defiled amygdala
lower loran chalice dungeons
those guys who tell you to fuck off
gherman

>>716112019
>>716111820
>chikage
>my beloved

>>716111820
>weapon
Chikage
>boss
Ebrietas, Daughter of the Cosmos
>area
Cainhurst
>enemy
Bloody Crow of Ca- nah I'm just fucking with you
>npc
For how little we see of her, I really liked real Iosefka. Makes sense that such a pure soul wouldn't last long during the Night of the Hunt

>>716111820
>Church Pick
>Vicar Amelia (But Ludwig is a close 2nd)
>Cainhurst (Fishing Hamlet close 2nd)
>"Away, away!"
>Valtr

>>716111820
>WHEEL
>ludwig
>research hall
>lantern dudes, specifically the few in upper cathedral
>alfred

>>716111820
Call beyond if item, tonitrus or burial blade if weapon
my wife vicar amelia
I might be the only person that liked running around the nightmare frontier
the laser ayys that shoot you like ebritas
Alfred

>>716111296 (OP)
What even is the lore for these fuckers?

>>716117050
Guards for Yahrnam that remained there guarding so long they got infected by the parasitic snakes.

>>716117050
They're likely Pthumerians. As >>716117567 said they got infested by sneks like everything else in the woods.

>>716111393
What?

>>716111296 (OP)
how the hell did I find a good rom of this shit I want to play this so badly

>>716111820
Whirligig saw
Ludwig
isz Chalice dungeons
Winter lantern
Doll

>>716111296 (OP)
kkk if they were evil

>>716111296 (OP)
what do they eat?

>>716111820
I only started the game a few days ago and just got to the forest but I'm liking my big fucker upper axe, gascione was definitely the most satisfying "oh nice I actually beat him" moment (wolf lady got stuck inna wall which made killing her kinda hollow)
have 't seen enough of the game to pick an area but they're all nice so far
in terms of fighting I like the sackboys since it feels very life or death every time trying to kill them before they power up, in terms of just liking an enemy it's the machine gun grampas in wheelchairs
the cleric dude you meet by the little church going to machine gun town is nice so far and sounds like solaire so I'm siding with him
I get why the people who like this game are so often bitchy toward other souls games, it's very different but quite fun, healing from attacking changes the strategy a lot and makes fights a lot more fun since you can take more risks

>>716111820
>weapon
Holy Moonlight Sword
>boss
Orphan of Kos
>area
Forsaken Castle Cainhurst maybe
>enemy
Kidnapper
>npc
Eileen

>>716111296 (OP)
goth money shadow gang

>>716111296 (OP)
It's crazy From peaked here

>>716111296 (OP)
fuck you, bloodborne doesnt look that shitty

>>716119328
The axe is great. Hope you enjoy anon.

>>716117906
the only good Rom is a dead Rom

>>716119451
It actually doesn't, that's a crop of a wider view. If you actually got close enough to them they'd look a bit smoother. It is still a decade old game.
What's more impressive is that it was developed at exactly the same time as DS2 yet looks light years better in almost every way.

>>716119638
tbf DS2 was made to run on PS3 while BB was on PS4 and pushed the system pretty hard. Then again the SOTFS edition still looks much worse than Bloodborne so there must have been art direction issues too

>>716119273
It’s a mystery

>>716111820
moonlight
ludwig
old yharnam
the 7ft tall church guys
alfred

>>716111820
chikage
orphan
dunno; i kinda like them all equally
dunno
alfred (same with d in er)

MUSICAL NIGGAS

>>716119801
>320*240 upscaled to 1080p
>pushed the system pretty hard
lol
lmao

>>716111820
1. Kirkhammer
2. Ludwig, the Holy Blade
3. Entire Cathedral area, honorable mention to Old Yharnam.
4. Scourge Beast, not too hard but can fuck you up if you fuck up.
5. Alfred but I wish he had more dialogue.

>>716117050
>What even is the lore for these fuckers?
gay niggas from outer space get corrupted doing their duty.

>>716120359
Anon it ran at native 720 on the ps4.

>>716120359
well my base ps4 took forever to load it and it had frame drops pretty frequently (from its base of 30fps) so yeah I'd say it was struggling a fair bit

>>716117050
>guarding entrance to Byrgenwerth which contains Rom whos maintaining the veil and also the in-universe entrance to the chalice dungeons
They're the main line of defense for anybody who somehow made it past the woods, working for Queen Yharnam. The gatekeeper is the first, since very few people know the password. Then you have more Yharnamites in the village outside who kill everyone and the woods is overrun with monsters. Anyone who makes it past them is killing Rom and bringing the Blood Moon.

>>716111820
BOOM hammer
Lady Maria, easy but cool boss
Upper Cathedral Ward
The little alien dudes, they look cool and make cute noises
Alfred especially when he "kills" Annalise and goes mad

>>716111820
>Blade of Mercy
>Ludwig
>Hypogean Gaol
>Sword wielding Shadow of Yharnam
>Imposter Iosefka

>>716111820
>stake driver
>gascoigne
>hypogran gaol/yahar'gul
>the weird tentacle slugs in the nightmare frontier (wiki calls them crawlers)
>the cathedral creeper

>>716111820
>weapon
Saw Spear, because it's just a better Saw Cleaver
>boss
Ludwig, but Orphan and Laurence are up there too
>area
Fishing Hamlet
>enemy
Those pigs you can anally fist
>npc
Ludwig

>>716119801
Bloodborne was hugely ahead of its time and holds up incredibly well graphically, especially now that we can play it in 4K on PC. It looks better than Elden Ring in some areas. A few low-res textures aside it could pass for a current-gen game.

>>716123138
What's the state of the emulated BB experience? Last time I checked higher resolutions crashed the game at times and vertex explosions were an issue.

>>716123138
it's one of my favourite games ever in terms of aesthetics, which is why I hate that it's stuck on PS4. Imagine how glorious a proper pc port could have been

>>716111820
>Base game was saw spear, DLC was pizza cutter
>base game was gehrman, DLC was orphan
>Nightmare Frontier, Fishing Hamlet
>Kiss band member from the chalice dungeons
>Suspicious Beggar

>>716123226
It's really good now, if you have decent hardware. 4K runs flawlessly as long as you have VRAM to spare, and vertex explosions can be fixed with readbacks at the expense of occasional stutters. I played through the entire game and the DLC on the BBguy emulator build; am currently doing all the Chalice Dungeons.

fuck the forbidden woods

>>716124971
imagine losing to a guy with no legs

>>716124915
chad area for chad people

>>716123226
playable and beatable
though it still crashes randomly on my setup

>>716111820
>weapon
Rakuyo.
>boss
Micolash.
>area
Central Yharnam.
>enemy
Winter Lantern.
>npc
Plain Doll.

>>716125819
>picrel
MmmmMmm yeah, you stroke that sluggy outer god, doll-face.

>>716112994
These always make me laugh so hard hahaha
>Kramer, whats wrong?
>We need eyes on the inside, Jerry!

>>716119630
Hey, he did nothing to you. Hes just chilling with his spider babys and you kill him lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6e4hpaJ-0s

>>716111296 (OP)
I love mystery niggas so damn much. Especially when they each have different weapons and attacks.
Pure kino.

>>716117050
They'd already made Skeleton Lords for DS2 and it would be a shame not to use them again

BB-PC is great. I cheated to get the beast claws and beast rune right away, same for the milkweed rune and Parasite of Kos...some say Kosm.

>>716124485
>>716125819
Well, looks like it reached the state I was waiting for. Gonna set it up.

Did they ever manage to fix the vertex explosion bug in shadPS4?

>>716127178
I need 5 more levels before I can go full tentacle rape monster then its time to start killing bosses.

>>716127447
Yeah, Its working great for me. It still crashes randomly sometimes but its pretty rare. Iosefkas clinic kept crashing when you first spawn in, I had to slowly tip-toe to the werewolf or itd CTD for some reason. It seems to be working great after that point though. I can run around like a lunatic and its fine.

>>716127608
forgot pic

>>716124485
>It's really good now, if you have decent hardware. 4K runs flawlessly
Lying sack of shit.
Do not believe this anon.

What was his fucking problem?

>>716126106
Rom's a she

>>716119638
>What's more impressive is that it was developed at exactly the same time as DS2 yet looks light years better
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact DS2 was forced by Bamco to release on old gen consoles a year into its development

>>716111820
>weapon
The Blade of Mercy was the only good knife weapon in a soulslike until Lies of P, and it's still top tier even now
>boss
Maria, I didn't just parry her to death like a metaslave faggot
>area
Yharnam, the city falling apart is too good
>enemy
It's love-hate but that chikage faggot motherfucker is certainly one of the most iconic even if his pistol is COMPLETE horseshit
>npc
a hoonter must hoont

>>716127791
CAULIFLOWER NIGGAS

if you yes YOU are making a game consider putting mystery niggas in it

>>716128452
They call him a him in game though

>>716127913
?
Set memory allocation to max, select your resolution patch. It literally just works.

>>716128716
I LOVE HIM SO MUCH IM GUNNA DIE

>>716128897
Where? In-game she's only ever referred to as "the Byrgenwerth spider". Miyazaki called her a she, and said she's pretty cute.

>>716111820
>weapon
blades of mercy even though they suck
>boss
Lady Maria, shame she suffers feom being weak to parry like other humanoids
>area
the workshop
>enemy
beasts
>npc
Eileen

>>716111296 (OP)
If these guys are Pthumerian, why don't they appear in the Chalice Dungeons?

We are never getting another Bloodborne because zoomers and elden shart killed FS

>>716111296 (OP)
I always used help to beat these guys

>>716130124
Did you search every single chalice dungeon?

>>716129390
"Her" lower body is a giant penis, man. If you want to use the new age "She" thats on you.

I just wanted to save her...

Is it conceivable that there will be a way to coop emulated BB in the future or should I just give up on that notion?
>>716130312
just try to bring the health of each one down before you start killing them so the harder phases are shorter, and of course avoid engaging them when they are close together

>>716130808
I hate her fans since they're autistic vorefags.

>>716131183
whats it called when you want her to use your body as a dildo?

>>716131076
maybe there'll be a pc port someday not in a million years

>>716131224
It's called "based".

>>716111820
>weapon
simons bowblade
>boss
queen yharnam
>area
old yharnam
>enemy
silverbeast
>npc
djura

Also thanks for reminding me to play some bloodborne today.

>>716131291
kek
I wonder if it smells gamey? I bet is all tight, moist and just begging for the B(ig)H(unter)C(ock)

>>716129475
bom doesn’t suck wtfff

Has anyone seen one of those two headed catdog moles in the chalices?

>>716130196
>We are never getting another Bloodborne
Good. I don't want Bloodborne 2

Let me guess, you need "more"?

>>716131809
Sure do. Why settle for earthly weapons when you can transcend and become a GOD!

>>716131226
surely that's Fromsoft's mysterious new project, right?

>>716124971
embarassing defeat

>>716111820
>>weapon
Amygdalan arm. You know me by now.
>>boss
Ludwig. Obvious answer but nothing comes even close. Rarely do music, atmosphere lore and actual mechanics fit so nicely together.
>>area
Nightmare of Mensis.
>>enemy
celestial emissaries
>>npc
Does bloody crow of cainhurst count? If it has to be a friendly NPC then Alfred purely because of his voicelines in Castle Cainhurst. By far one of the best delivered pieces of dialouge in all Fromgames.

>>716132053
I wish. I hated ER's story, DS is finished, its the only real choice. I just hope they make it as unique as BB. Dont even mention BB1, make it a new city, new part of the world, new great old ones.

it's so easy to miss stuff in this game and i feel bad for looking stuff up

PIG NIGGAS

>>716132353
It's ok when you're looking stuff up in the chalice dungeons.
I played this game to death but to this day never bothered to actually finish the story dungeons. There's many unique enemies down there, some are supposedly extremely rare and even most dungeon delvers have never seen them.

In base game I think it's also fine to look up questlines. But actual places like the abandoned workshop and stuff can be found organically by just paying attention to your surroundings and exploring carefully.

>>716124915
Why did you go there? It's forbidden.

>>716132679
um
plip plop

>>716119142
am I fuckign retarded, which direction are you supposed to fucking read this in ???

This game gave me a rude sexual awakening.

>>716132779
elaborate
inb4 no

>>716132861
Any further questions?

>>716129475
They're great for stunlocking humanoids which also means great in pvp, that locked-on side step lunge attack is particularly useful as well.

>>716120953
>working for Queen Yharnam
Never thought about it but that makes sense since they can be found guarding the path to her at the top level of the Nightmare of Mensis.
I guess they're shadows of the queen and not the city.

>>716132934
oh, furry faggotry, of course

Pizza cutter is king.

>>716133060
SPIN TO WIN

I unironically want a Bloodborne version of Nightreign where it goes full path of exile on gem system with crazy implicits and effects and mods you can gem per weapon and a randomised full yarnham city + surrounds that randomises, as well as full realtime underground catacombs you can enter into from many points, it has covenants and character runes expanded on massively as well as passive vampriic ayy beast stuff.

I want all the trick weapons and more and I want it in 4k HDR 120fps with modern graphics, I will play this game till the end of time

Please, modders, the work is there, the assets are there, all it requires is the making.

>>716133291
Damn really?
I'm already burnt out on Nightreign and only returning for the new everdark versions of the bosses.

>>716111296 (OP)
let me get a closer look at these niggas

>>716133291
>best I can do is Duskbloods, buy a Switch 2 today!

>>716131680
This. Make something new, all this milking never leads to something superior.

>>716133291
Okay.
>puts bb hunter into UE5 fields with deers and shit

>>716133664
I'm a huge Fromsoftfan but this one I will be skipping. I'm probably even getting a Switch 2 for the new Zelda game but I will never ever play a PvPvE game again.
First Fromsoft game I'm not getting since Demon's Souls in 2009.

>>716132527
I love these guys. Thanks for the free XP, Asshole!

>>716131226
which is a shame because i'd love me some coop/pvp

>>716111820
>weapon
Saif for the versatile move set and good dmg/scaling
>boss
Ludwig because kino
>area
Central Yharnam is a masterpiece with its visual story telling, interconnectivity, and varied combat encounters.
>enemy
Church Servants, pushovers but fun to parry
>npc
Gilbert :(

It's kind of neat how every Souls game has "that enemy" which is just way harder than it should be, except Bloodborne. These guys are assholes but there's really no other enemy that is just unfun to fight.

R1 SPAMMING NIGGAS

>>716111296 (OP)
wtf are they supposed to be an evil version of the KKK?

>>716134620
>WHOMM
>WHOMM
>WHOMM
>WHOMM
>WHOMM
>WHOMM

Here's a challenge, type out the noise they make.

>>716135382
>Micolash looked at it and said "yep, this is epic"

>>716135651
Probably because Micolash is the biggest retard in Fromsoft history.

>>716135827
you shut your whore mouth! Micolash is a saint, he cracked the code of the cosmos, some say Kosmos, he deserves out respect.

I love this man no homo

do you do the dlc first or chalice dungeons?

>>716111296 (OP)
In the end this fight was easier than I thought

>>716124971
wtf are those lifts? He shrunk like 2 feet after taking his shoes off.

I'm platinum the games and I don't remember anything from it, just some bosses, the real important ones. Sometimes I wonder if I am wasting my time with this franchise, it's fun to play but nothing stays in my mind

>>716128360
Not having shoes

>>716113773
>such a pure soul
Anon, that pool of liquefied corpses under her "clinic" was there long before the impostor took over.

There will never EVER be a game like Bloodborne.

Literally me.

>>716139015
manlets come up with the craziest ways to fraud

>>716136832
So do I, big homo though.

>>716135382
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aR3MDSF-IpQ

>>716139515
That's ok, you don't want "a game like BB". What you want is "a game with as much soul as BB".
Though we're not getting that either

Hey, in the nightmare of menses, the winterlantern (bubble heads that shoot you with barbs) I heard they actually have a little tiny archer in their heads

>>716111820
This is unironically the best weapon ever created in the history of video games. I pop in BB every now and then just to run though some Chalices to play around with it.
>>boss
Kos
>>area
Research Hall
>>enemy
Winter Lantern
>>npc
Brador

>>716124485
Hopefully ShadPS4 becomes optimize enough I can play BB on my Deck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfCgkMz3AtE

Everyone always talks about Ludwig's theme, but for me it's the Blood Starved Beast.

>>716141445
on their discord, a guy has it on his steam deck lol

>>716142548
>BSB
The real OG nigga. I love'im!

>>716111820
>weapon
bloodletter & burial blade
>boss
ludwig
>area
central yharnam
>enemy
squids
>npc
alfred

I wish we could play as the enemys.

>>716143739
>he le doesn't fucking know

>>716144875
You're right, I dont know and im on shadPS4 with Bloodborne Enhanced mod lol Please, spell it out for me because I am retarded.
I NEED EYES ON THE INSIDE AND ONLY YOU CAN PROVIDE THEM
Please and thank you

I'm convinced Bloodborne is so good because of JapanStudio and Shadow of the Erdtree being shit confirmed this

>>716136832
is this the corpse hanging out by the lantern in hypogean gaol you get sacked to early on? I just realized it's a skelton wearing a head cage under a big amygdala statue

>>716146742
No, there's tons of people with those cages. All the students of Mensis had them.

I hunt for she.

>>716148430
Imagine if you go to fight her but shes in heat?

>>716148543
I'm going in...

>>716148656
Based cunter-I mean, hunter.

Fear the old bluud

Dear oh dear. Was it the hoont, the blood, or the horrible dream? I'll always be there to save my bro Gerhman.

>>716111296 (OP)
Unironically one of the hardest bosses in the game, and by that I died to them once compared to doing nearly every other boss first try
Seriously, why is Bloodborne so fucking easy?

>>716150213
Because you cheat by leveling vitality. Try beating Ludwig or Orphan on NG+ with starting vitality.

>>716111820
>kirkhammer
>Lady Maria
>Yahar'gul, Unseen Village
>Winter Lantern
>Eileen

>>716150193
>Was it the hoont, the blood, or the horrible dream?
Yes

>>716151126
Yahargul sucks.

Lately I've been looking at all the cut/changed content stuff for Bloodborne and besides a couple of interesting things like the fact that they put a ladder after Gascoigne just to make sure you didn't get into Cathedral Ward before it had time to load it really saddens me how much had to be changed to manage the deadline they had, like the game was almost entirely different just 4 months before it went out

Still the one thing that saddens me the most is that Lady Maria was supposed to have a more active role in the DLC where she would have some dialogue for you before you could reach her boss fight, kinda like sister Friede.

Threaded Cane
>look like a pimp
>poke niggas
>whack niggas
>stab niggas
>whip niggas back to the cotton fields
>all stylish n shit

>>716156598
kek
>GET BACK NAHhh YA HEAR, BOY-I mean, BEAST!

>>716111820
>weapon
Good old Saw Cleaver, I just love how cool and iconic it is
>boss
Ludwig
>area
I really like the entire world layout and how most of it is designed around itself, but if I had to choose one single area it would be the Research Hall
>enemy
The snake men from Forbidden Woods and the Winter Lanterns
>npc
Gehrman

>>716156162
Most of BB's cut content is the exact opposite of this, though
The most significant things are level design changes that were finalized last, the earlier script was always poorly represented by the community and was not far along at all before the story shifted away from looking for Laurence
DS3 on the other hand, that's a game that didn't resemble itself anymore in the final year of development

I like the machine gun. Dakka-Dakka, bitch.

>>716157016
>DS3 on the other hand, that's a game that didn't resemble itself anymore in the final year of development
What did they change?

>>716111820
>weapon
Church Pick, my beloved
>boss
Hard choice, but I think it's gotta go to Lady Maria
>area
Fishing Hamlet
>enemy
Probably just the basic Yharnam citizens you fight in the beginning.
>npc
The Doll, my beloved.

>>716156598
I like the idea but hated the execution just for the one single fact that the dude doesn't hold the cane like an actual cane

Reminder that if you emulated it you didn't beat the game

>Always thought that the Hunter's nightmare was some random areas mashed together because fantasy like DS3
>Just realized that the research hall exists in the real world and the clock tower is the same from the base game placed in the exact same spot
I'm a retard and it seems I never bothered opening Lady Maria's balcony before yesterday

>>716157272
The entire story, completely spun off pontiff sulyvahn from lothric but they forgot to take down the statue of Lothric holding what was rewritten into Sulyvahn's sword, all the multiplayer mechanics, gutted a whole system for making bonfires, completely changed how the game was supposed to end, cut the entire final area of the game and replaced it with the dreg heap, ripped out half the centerpiece of the whole game world out and turned it into a dragon gimmick area, distributed assets from another cut area to almost every part of the game including the DLC and even ER afterward

>>716139495
Narratively, that pool is meant to be used by the Church to go to and from the Woods and it just so happens to be nearby her clinic. The story twist of "nice doctor turns out to be a serial killer but behold! turns out she really was nice all along and an impostor killed her, transformed her and took her place" loses its narrative weight if we establish the OG doctor really was also evil all along. It makes the twist meaningless, because there's no reason for the impostor to take over if both Iosefka's have the same moral alignments.
Mechanically, that cave didn't use to be there during most of Bloodborne's development, and the tunnel that lead from the Clinic to the Woods was a normal one. The Cave was part of the Altar of Despair, and both were part of Byrgenwerth.

>>716157697
If you used a single healing item, you haven't even hit the start button.

>>716157857
>literally every single thing shown in the InThe Know leak was cut from the game
>bamco commissioned a whole diorama for e3 one year with a statue of the Soul of Cinder armor on the player making a bonfire with the great bridge in the background
>every single facet of which was cut from the game
Kind of crazy when you think about it

>>716157857
Outch. Why did they fuck everything up like that? Just to make the deadline?
>gutted a whole system for making bonfires
That would of been awesome.

>>716146742
He's the corpse you use to get to Nightmare of Mensis

>>716155775
>transvestites headcanon themselves into thinking everything is about their weird fetish
shame to see it happen so often, same thing happened with new vegas
not unexpected mind you, since you are extremely mentally ill

>>716157857
any links, interested in reading more about it

>>716150213
Half the bosses weren't meant to be bosses early on and are just NPCs with boss healthbars tagged on. Shadows of Yharnam, Witches of Hemwick, Celestial Emissary and Micolash, with One Reborn's gimmick mechanic being removed

>>716156598
bvsed

>>716150473
>its another "challenge runner thinks the REAL game is to not actually use the in-game mechanics like.... health?" episode
look please stay in your containment speedrunner threads and leave everyone else alone

>>716128360
Just wanted to show off his boomerang sickle technique.

>>716157857
Also played magical chairs with all bosses

>>716159026
Man, I just fought him and got raped several times by those D:< Im going to go farm and get big and strong. That punk bitch doesn't know whats about to hit him in like 9 hours from now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCQDycs2G3o

>>716159249
This is really just part of their design process more than a facet of ds3's extremely borked development

>>716159892
But it results in stuff making zero sense. Like there being an unexplained giant coffin in Cemetery of Ash, or Gundyr being designed to look like Old King Doran, or Prince Lothric holding Sulyvahn's sword in a central statue in the city, or Yhorm not physically fitting in his own freaking arena

>>716160514
>Yhorm not physically fitting in his own freaking arena
Thats my favorite part.

>>716159249
Yeah, these make so much more sense. What happened to DS3 is a real tragedy. I always thought it was Miyazaki's weakest game.

this might be the easiest fromsoft game when it runs at more than 20fps

>>716124485
>vram to spare
How much are we talking about? I have only 12gb.

>BB thread
>DS3 babies shit up the thread

>>716161590
I wouldn't try 4k if you have less than 16GB. Lower resolutions might be fine, though.

>>716161590
That's probably enough for 1080p

>>716162159
>>716162170
I hope is enough for 1440p 72fps

>>716161798
>picrel
Thats the best part about BB, you are never alone, you always have your friendly old ones watching your every move...forever.

Awooo

>>716165162
UwU
>The High Preistess
Every time I see her my pp gets higher.

>>716111296 (OP)
I don't give a shit if this was or wasn't a e-celeb thread those guys were fun as fuck both solo and helping people.
Them getting stronger and start summoning giant snakes to rip the place the shreds is one of the most memorable parts of that game for me.

>>716165363
>thread those guys were fun as fuck both solo and helping people.
>and helping people.
Based giga-chad. I used to play tons of bloodborne but im really shitty at it, guys like you made it fun. I can handle regular guys np but some bosses made me want to toss my ps4 out the window.

>>716166382
None of the bosses need help.

>>716157857
It's too bad that we lost the multiplayer mechanics but bonefire creation would've made level design a joke and the story elements were still coherent in the released product. Every game, hell every piece of media has cut content.

>>716168829
???

>>716170278
you didn't beat the game and you are a secondary tourist poser

>>716170359
>b-but!
whatever

>>716170427
>Seleccionar archvio
which pajeet shithole are you from
you still didn't beat the game, you brown and you are broke

>>716168829
it's been playable for close to half a year now @ 4k 60fps lol. keep begging sony to do what pc chads accomplished in their spare time.

>>716170486
wtf my passport is dissolving and my skin is turning brown

>>716168717
>None of the bosses need help.
Correct. they fuck me up enough on their own

>>716170565
>it's been playable
pctroons consider this as """"""""""""""playable"""""""""""""" btw, never change retards
you are still a tourist, you will never be there in 2015 playing the game, you missed out, you will never capture that moment ever again, you are a poser and a secondary, you are worth less than filth
>>716170854
rip bro

>>716170917
>twitter speak
lol

>>716170854
rip

>>716170486
I'm European and pale as fuck thoughever

>>716171180
ok Muhmed

>>716171238
Your turn, Rajesh

I've been running Chalice Dungeons for the last 3 nights straight, send help

>>716173182
I'm doing them too currently. It's such a fun endgame mode for a souls game; wish Elden Ring had done roguelite dungeons too instead of the static mini-dungeons.

>>716173182
I wish they were account wide and you didnt have to do the entire hunt for chalices on new characters. I just wanna dive in not kill BSB to do 3 layers of Pthumeru Iyll, to having to kill Amygdala and Ebrietas, then going through Isz and Lorann to get materials for the Defiled Chalice, then having to get the living string from that decaying frenzy brain.

>>716171486
NTA but you have very crooked knuckles & joins and stuff. I want to post a pic from my phone but it says its 12 mb.

>>716119273
blud

>>716176906
you're buld. El oh El!

>>716175085
i think that the ER dungeons were made to have a format similar to chalice dungeons, like building blocks that were put together, but the final product ended up being just pre-made using those same tools

the BBC covenant niggas

>>716180350
wat

>>716158079
Wait, what's this pool? I don't remember this.

>>716158079
>because there's no reason for the impostor to take over if both Iosefka's have the same moral alignments.
Mad scientists fight each other all the time.

>>716111296 (OP)
Seriously all this happen cause of blood of ayy lmaos? How's that possible?

>>716156162
You'd think they wouldn't have to rush a DLC of a successful game.

>>716182527
>ayyy blood cures diseases and makes people feel good
>but also connects people with other ayyys and long exposure turns you into a monster

Remember those praying dogs in a graveyard in Elden Ring? feelsbadman

>>716111296 (OP)
RACIST NIGGAS

>>716183504
Think they kiss? we all know the skinny is a power bottom but what about chunks'n stuff?

>>716160514
Even though it predates the final draft of the game the opening sequence still shows Yhorm waking up by Firelink Shrine so the names getting shuffled around the designs didn't really cause issues, like it typically doesn't
Creating a character out of nothing like Sulyvahn and then not accounting for it anywhere in the game, and then trying to justify the changes further in the DLC and then having cut content IN THE DLC for this same character is where DS3 uniquely fucks up

>>716111296 (OP)
evil KKK
>>716183504
KKK

>>716111296 (OP)
Best non-DLC boss in the game

>>716131936
you become the cosmic equivalent of a beehive

>>716183504
Didn't played Elden Rangz qrd?

>>716157857
>>716158259
>>716159249
>>716161110
>>716185741
Is there any decent write up about the whole affair? I've seen stuff about the cut bonfire mechanic and some assumptions about moving bosses around, but is there any coherent narrative around it which can be read?

>>716132053
>>716132263
According to the former head of SIE, Sony are aware that people want Bloodborne Remastered, but are respectfully waiting for Miyazaki to request it directly.
Apparently Fromsoft is doing a DS3 remaster, which honestly we don't need that game is fine, and AC6.5, alongside continued development for Duskbloods and Nightreign content.

>>716183634
>we all know the skinny is a power bottom
what's with you and being obsessed with power bottoms?

>>716187770
Not really, you can watch LanceMcDonald's and Abyss1ne's videos for everything that's been restored overtime and there's also been some videos here and there showcasing early navmeshes and sound design for God's Grave and there's a very shitty cubemap of what the original last area of the game was (note that Abyss1ne injects some of his own shit without notice in a couple of his videos, namely his Untended Graves video where he modded the defunct warp event to a map that doesn't exist anymore to go to a reskined DS1 map he imported with Sulyvahn placed there)
Even though the assets got scattered all over the place over the years the concept for God's Grave basically became the Godwyn section of ER's underground, but leaving the Oceiros fungus on the enemies they moved to the Carthus Catacombs (that also has its own history of cut content out the ass) is still one of the funniest things

You can tell how well made BB really was because it has absolutely nothing even close to the level of what DS3 does

My favorite part of playing Bloodborne on PC is the fact that /v/ will seethe uncontrollably over the fact that I use shaders and effects to make the game look cooler

>>716111820
Beasthunter Saif
Gascoigne
Early Yharnam
The basic beast guys
Doll

bump im not letting a bloodborne thread die

a decade later and im still the only one who reps the threaded cane

>>716200581
The troon that made bloodborne psx has a tattoo of it

>>716200547
>you came to the wrong forbidden neighborhood

>>716111820
>HMS, my beloved
>Ludwig
>Chalice Dungeons
>Shadows
>False Iosefka

Why couldn't they just release a framerate unlock update?
they did it with sekiro

>>716156598
and it's decently strong too, the thrust especially slaps. Still not good enough for the meta slaves since the other two starting pokemons are stronger, but it's perfectly good throughout the whole game

>>716111820
>weapon
tie between moonlight greatsword because I'm basic and the burial blade because scythes are badass
>boss
Maria
>area
Hmm, that's a hard one. probably central yharnam
>enemy
purely for lolz related reasons, the old man in the wheelchair with the chain gun
>npc
queen of the vilebloods

>>716194552
it just looks like the saturation has been cranked up to 11, but I'd have to see it in motion to pass judgement

>>716194552
exposure and saturation is a bit high but looks good anon, no one really cares as much as they pretend to

>>716194552
Fromsoft's games do tend to be undersaturated but you cranked it up way too high.

>>716111296 (OP)
they look like the evil kkk

Classic niggas

easily the coolest weapon

>>716160514
Isn't Yhorm sit on a throne in his boss area or I misremember it?

>>716183504
Those two would wipe the floor with three mystery niggas from BB.

>>716202953
that silver thing got me confused for a second

>>716119451
What Bloodborne would like if it was actually made for PC.

>>716111820
>>weapon
Chikage.
>>boss
Did someone already mention Ludwig?
>>area
Orphanage.
>>enemy
My most hated enemy? Sure. Sharks.
>>npc
Eileen.

>>716130196
There's a lot of Bloodborne in Elden Ring, the whole thing is about different OId Ones manipulating the kingdom

>>716205602
But the soul is gone.

>>716158608
How far absorbed in the culture war do you have to be to deny that motherhood, birth and menstruation are central themes in Bloodborne just because trannies jumped on it?

>>716175594
>but you have very crooked knuckles & joins
First of all it's called joints.
Also no, they look fine.

>>716111820
>weapon
Stake Driver
>boss
lol
>area
lmao
>enemy
you're killing me here
>npc
pffft

>>716202953
When I first played I picked the threaded cane bc I have a tradition of always picking Wanderer/Vagabond since DeS and threaded cane was the most dex-ish weapon available.
Then I switched to the saw cleaver after cascoigne (the cane's damage is just so shit for like 3/4s of the game until you reach the softcap in skill) for the rest of the game and it became one of my fav weapons ever.
So basic but also so versatile. The backstep r1/r2s in transformed mode are also really underrated.

>>716117050
reused asset haphazardly thrown in because all effort was drained on Chalice Shartgeons. The actual boss was cut

>>716206393
>Themes
They are, in the same way as dreams being different planes of existence is, or blood as a whole also is, but it's not precisely the focus of the game, just like women aren't the only ones suffering bad shit in the game
>Central themes
Only birth is, and not in the way that's related to motherhood, it's the central theme because great ones are unable to have children themselves yet yearn for such a thing the most, which in a way serves as a catalyst for them to deal with humans to begin with

>>716206990
>but it's not precisely the focus of the game
Yeah but it's central enough to be noteworthy
>just like women aren't the only ones suffering bad shit in the game
I didn't make that claim.
>Only birth is, and not in the way that's related to motherhood
Oh it is. Yharnam is a central figure in the story and is literally a grieving mother. When you defeat the Wet Nurse you ensure that Queen Yharnam gets her child back. Kos (some say Kosm) and her orphan are the final encounter of the DLC and how the hamlet fishers / the chruch treated her are a big part of the DLC's story. Yes Gherman/Maria are the actual centerpiece but I could see how a real woman would react more strongly to most of these themes in BB since they're directly affected by them.

As I said, your mind needs to be clouded by a unbearably thick fog of culture war brainrot to immediately jump to transsexuals.

>>716205602
It's actually wild how much of ER is just a straight copypasta of BB.
Oedon = Formless Mother
Alfred = D
Annalise = Fia
Gehrman = Radagon
Moon Presence = Elden Beast
Amygdala = Astel
Winter Lantern = Aged Untouchable
Frenzy = Madness
Pthumeru = Eternal City

>>716207254
I mean in big M's own words, he is still re-iterating over the formula to one day make his magnum opus RPG so I think it's no surprise that these things get rehashed so much.
The
>kingdom has fallen / is past its prime and we see its ruins
and
>rise and fall of kingdoms happens in cycles, we get to choose to continue of break the cycle
schticks have been there since DeS and we will see them again.

>>716207189
I have to wonder how do trannies even come into this, as themes of menstrual blood and motherhood do not apply to them by definition.

>>716207189
>I didn't make that claim.
I'm talking about the meme image there
>Oh it is
But it is not, those are important figures, yes, but they're still part of the same overarching idea I already mentioned about the great ones being obsessed with having kids, and so they're not more important than let's say Lawrence and Gehrman.

Of course I get why they would feel identified with such themes but pretending Bloodborne is just about that or how men won't get it is retarded internet obsessed femcel speak

>>716203528
anon...

>>716206742
yeah, the light/heavy combos are fantastic. very versatile, functional, and stylish at the same time. just lovely

>>716194552
The only thing about shades that make me mad is people will post hundreds of them with 1 or two settings very slightly tweaked so it cloggs up mod repositorys with retarded bullshit.

>>716160514
The big coffin was Yhorms

>>716111296 (OP)
QUACK NIGGAS

>>716157016
There's a lot of lore implications in the cut content like how you were supposed to fight the physical body of the moon presence inside chalice dungeons

>>716112820
>he doesn’t know

>>716210397
They're too cute to attack

>>716161113
> always use NPC summons in Souls games because i don't have to pretend this shit is hard
> summon the hammer nigga for Vicar Amelia
> whip out my own hammer
> we go Dnepropetrovsk on her and break her ass on first try, didn't even expend five vials
The wonders of jolly cooperation.

>cut dialogue where Lady Maria calls you "my hunter
CUTE

>>716213438
The cut Lady Maria stuff was unintuitive tbqh
the Fishing Hamlet shaman that gives the speech was supposed to be in the Research Hall before the two DLCs were merged into one but the flow for this was always
>talk to Simon
>go to Maria's room
>talk to her
>get some stuff
>go all the way back down and talk to Simon a bunch again
>zone out
>He leaves
>zone out again
>Go back up
>He killed her
>fight like normal
In the final game you don't even need to go back and talk to Simon at all in the research hall for his questline to finish in the hamlet I don't think

>>716214246
The only thing that makes no sense is Simon killing Maria, other than that (considering it was supposed to be 2 DLCs) It wouldn't be so farfetched
>Beat DLC 1 last boss
>Get to talk to Maria
>Go back to check on Simon
>He disappears afterwards
Then you just finished DLC 1 so you go do some Chalice Dungeons until the DLC 2 drops
>Install the DLC 2 and boot up the game
>Go check on Maria
>She's dead now
>Cue boss fight
The thing is that there's no satisfying way for Simon to have killed Maria, neither beating her nor tricking/betraying her fit his character

>>716214246
When has From ever shied from doing that?
>Talk to Divine child
>Talk to Kuro
>Talk to the old Lady
>Talk to Emma
>Spy Kuro
>Talk to Divine child
>Talk to Ishin
>Talk to Kuro

>>716182476
Can you fucking read?

>>716111296 (OP)
Can we get some dawg niggas?

>>716215383
This is a very different example because the questline is you making multiple deliveries between two characters that never get to meet.
Generally getting to spy on conversations in Sekiro worked out better too because once you found a hideyhole you could always go back there whenever something changed and see if there was a new conversation

>>716160779
>>716210324
>anons think they've cracked the code by stating something I outright allude to
>anons think Yhorm waking up in Gundyr's arena at the same time as the player leaves the starting coffin but then leaving Gundyr's arena and... somehow walking to the Profane Capital? Which is one room and one hallway? An area he cannot fucking physically enter? Makes sense
Or maybe he should've just been the boss for the area he was designed for

>>716216054
That just makes the quest progression even more convoluted

>>716200581
>>716156598

>>716205923
This. 100% the game back on release and never looked back. Greater Will, Fingers, Maidens, GRRM's naming conventions? Couldn't care less

>>716210607
Or how BB took place in the same universe as Demon's Souls

>>716216497
That area had some good atmosphere but was utterly devoid of anything interesting.

Cut content, you say? For me, it's everything related to Gertrude, the angels, the Lothric civil war and the winged Kaathe statues

>>716216497
I will be eternally grateful that Bloodbornes "poison swamp" area is relatively short and allows you to circumvent most instances of poison without much hassle.

>>716119451
It’s a game made for 2013 laptop hardware.

>>716119801
Scholar is just a simple port. It runs at a locked 60 because it’s just a PS3 game with better textures (thanks to more memory) but it’s still the same low poly game underneath.

>>716216859
most of the Kaathe stuff is fan theories based on poorly described cut content, basically the cut pus of man that eventually turned into the Ulcerating Tree Spirit got conflated with the cut presumably Aldrich fight at the Cathedral of the Deep
there's always been light speculation that the boss fight set up to occur in the Rosaria covenant room turned into Rennala but unlike BB, old builds of DS3 have been very hard for the usual suspects in the community to come by.
The one Lance used to make this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E89o_75Or2U was presumed to be a gamescom demo because actual assets still exist for a bunch of these old things but he's been vague on exactly where he got it all this time while normally he's been pretty upfront about BB builds that came from PS4 devkits

>>716216882
>“While making this game I rediscovered my love for making poison swamps. I know how people feel about them but I suddenly realize I’m in the middle of making one and I can’t help myself. It just happens” - Miyazaki on Elden Ring, Game Informer

>>716217252
The dude working on Project Eclipse said he asked Lance for details on that build but he refused to share them, and JSF (rest in peace) said it's because certain builds were essentially stolen and if specifics got out some people would lose their jobs

>>716217824
he just likes when people suffer, doesn't he

>>716218136
Gangs all here

>>716200581
More games should feature whip combat
https://youtu.be/K-BSrpVgWU0

>>716218136
this pic is like that episode of the south park with imaginationland

>>716219218
Souls-games whips suck.
Except in Salt and Sanctuary

Hmmm hmm hmmmmmmm

Bloodborne is proof that Lore and Worldbuilding matters and improves the game feel
yet retards still deny that lore matters

>>716221106
>woah werewolfs!
>woah aliems!
>woah j̸̦͕̬͔̟̳̙͍̹̞͈̫̐͜n̶̢̢̯͍̙̝̙̫̪͎̏̓̔͘͠f̶̙̯̮͕̟̗̰̭͆̀͋̏̈̀͝ͅd̸̛̛̜͙̯̪̝͓̖̱̏͂͋͆̒͠k̸̨̜̳͓̻̞̗̥͓̀̈́̀̏̾͛̌̌̈́̀̏̕j̷̮̜̖̭̜͇̫̣̣̙̻͝ͅģ̷̠͇̩̳͊͛̾̄͗̊d̴͓̺̋͌̌ŏ̶̬̖̇̒̋͐́̀̑̄͆͆͂̂̃ď̸̡̯͉̖̠̫͋̄̆̾̓̿̍̀̽͝r̴̙͍̊͠͠j̶̨̘͕̱̉͒̐͋r̵̥̜̮͓͚͆̆̄̚̚͝ǵ̴̡̳̦͇̗͙̤͈͖̩͉͐̎̓͆̉̓ǵ̶̨̛̗̠̙͑͆̍͊́̈̒͘͝r̴̦̙̾d̷̢͈̭̣̳̞̖̥̬̞̙͐̉́̆̒͑͑̐̎̓̊̓ḡ̴̡̮͉̠͖͋̆͘ȑ̴̯̗̠̼̍̉͒̓̈̿̈́̕͜d̴̡͙͍̟̊̈̾̽̃̚̚j̷̡̻̖̼̪̟̪̥̮̬̱̀̀̇̆͛͛̏̊̃̀͝͝
great lore

>>716221058
She cute

>>716221263
this but unironically

The most disappointing of all weapons.

>>716215527
Can you?
If Iosefka's evil, then she's got a cushy setup. She wouldn't just give it up to an invader. If they're both evil, odds are neither would want to share.

>>716222524
>evil
nobody is evil in Bloodborne
nor good, for that matter
there's just different flavors of insane
grant us eyes

>>716222270
this, the last thing I would have thought when seeing a weapon that's a fucking cartwheel was "I wish it had a convoluted buffing mechanic"
Still gets points for the cool factor

>>716222524
So you cannot, got it. There's no reason to do the fucking twist if the end result's the same narratively. That's not how stories are written. There's no twist if the idea is that real Iosefka and impostor Iosefka would've done the exact same thing. Which is further compounded by the fact real Iosefka is unarmed vs impostor Iosefka using a Threaded Cane and Repeating Pistol, and real Iosefka fucking refusing to open the door to anyone from the outside which you'd think she'd want to if her objective was to experiment on innocents vs impostor Iosefka being all too eager to get anyone into her claws.
So on one hand you've got real Iosefka wanting to keep her patients isolated from the plague outside, her being unarmed, her giving you the best healing item in the game any time you ask for free and her questline's narrative clinging on the twist that the person taking over her identity is going to be someone that ruins what came before and destroys what good was there. On the other hand you've got the impostor asking you to bring people in so they can be experimented on and being visibly armed with Church weapons from the other side of the door. And the end result is your dumb fucking ass believing this is meant to show that actually both Iosefkas were essentially the same character morally and personality-wise which makes you wonder why bother with the twist if it's going to change absolutely fucking nothing about the player's perception of the character. You're saying Hyetta and Irina would've been the same. You're too retarded to keep being given (You)s.

>>716224447
Real Iosefka deserved better. Then again, mad doctor Iosefka is hot

>>716111820
>Post your favorite
>>weapon
Holy moonlight sword
>>boss
Ludwig
>>area
Research hall
>>enemy
Old hunter
>>npc
Valtr

>>716224447
nta, but you put too much weight on the good/evil dichotomy
Yes, the real Iosefka seems to genuinely care about her patients, while the impostor will sacrifice anything and everything to become a slug.
But the real one is still associated with the Healing Church, and "heals" people by injecting them with the old blood. She's by no means a pure soul - nobody in Yharnam is, except those who never went through blood ministration (so maybe young children, possibly not even them).

>>716111393
fpwp dont forget to absolutely fucking KILL yourself.

>>716226928
>and "heals" people by injecting them with the old blood
That's kinda assuming that she knows exactly what this blood does.
Also NTA.

>>716119273
Very large mousies

>>716227217
She probably doesn't know exactly (IIRC there's like 5 people who do), but she does have a general idea of where it comes from. And she did buy into the whole "let's get high on alien blood" thing enough to have her own clinic dedicated to it. But I'm not singling her out as especially evil, my point is that applying concepts like "good" to ANYONE in the story seems misguided, since conventional morality went out of the window way back when the Healing Church was founded.

>>716226928
>the real one is still associated with the Healing Church
She's really not. The clothes are a technical limitation because there's no factionless medical outfit in the game and you're never meant to fully see real Iosefka through the door. By the time the game starts the Healing Church and all its members are being hunted down which is why they've retreated to Cathedral Ward, locked all the doors to the district and you can find a myriad of Church corpses all over the streets, slain by Yharnamites. For Iosefka to operate a makeshift hospital (given it looks like a regular manor, has no rooms dedicated to medical care and the operating tables are haphazardly shoved into what seem like normal living spaces) open to the public, refining her own blood and not being hunted by the Yharnamites patrolling right outside her door it shows that she's not part of the besieged and hated Church
>"heals" people by injecting them with the old blood
Do we see her do that? The Blood Minister does. Who himself, like the cave under the clinic, is a whole can of worms because there's a reason Iosefka doesn't appear in the intro, he disappears after it, at no point is he referenced as an employer of hers and she doesn't bring him up once: 99% of his character was cut

>>716111820
>>weapon
Threaded Cane
>>boss
Micolash
>>area
Byrgenwerth / Nightmare of Mensis / the DLC areas... actually anywhere is great except the shitty forest and Nightmare Frontier.
>>enemy
Celestial Emissaries
>>npc
Was going to say Suspicious Beggar, but then I remembered the disembodied heads in the DLC
Plip... plop... plip...

>>716228525
>not being hunted by the Yharnamites patrolling right outside her door
How is she not when she feels it necessary to lock the door, and abandon the first few rooms (which are quite ruined)?
>has no rooms dedicated to medical care and the operating tables are haphazardly shoved into what seem like normal living spaces
Dunno, seems like what I'd expect to find in that era. They didn't have modern sterile operating rooms back then you know, they barely knew to wash their hands.
>Do we see her do that?
Not directly, but the blood she gives you (obviously derived from the old blood somehow) is the most powerful healing item you get. She's clearly a high-class researcher, not just some country doctor.
>at no point is he referenced as an employer of hers
Given the size of her clinic and the number of tables, she obviously needs to have some assistants. So barring information to the contrary, it seems reasonable to assume he is her associate. Her not mentioning him is not so strange given she barely says anything at all.

>>716227887
>applying concepts like "good" to ANYONE in the story seems misguided
One chick wants to heal people with whatever widely accepted method the town's been using for decades and the other one wants to take over someone's appearance like a snatcher to kidnap civilians and experiment on their bodies to transform them into alien monstrosities. "Muh gray morality" is retarded

>>716206393
They're big themes. But it is a very masculine vision of motherhood and menstruation, not a feminine one.
The writer of a post like that is not a woman, women rarely play games like Bloodborne unless they're a Youtuber trying to make money. That was written by a man pretending to be a woman and writing what they think that women would say.

If you want the theme of Bloodborne, it is DH Lawrence via Lovecraft.
Much like how Dark Souls is Nietzsche via Berserk.
Lawrence believed that more than our mind, our consciousness and sense of self and personhood, was embodied in our flesh, particularly our blood. That flowed and moved without control or thought, but was our life force and reacted to our emotions and circumstances, speeding up or slowing according to stimuli or thoughts. And this unconscious intellect, that was embodied in our blood or parts of the circulatory system, contained our true inherited instincts and our other mental energies. This is where our spirit truly was, not in our brains, but in our blood.

>now I am convinced of what I believed when I was about twenty - that there is another seat of consciousness than the brain and the nerve system: there is a blood-consciousness which exists in us independently of the ordinary mental-consciousness, which depends on the eye as its source or connector. There is the blood-consciousness, with the sexual connection, holding the same relation as the eye, in seeing, holds to the mental consciousness. One lives, knows, and has one’s being in the blood, without any reference to nerves and brain. This is one half of life, belonging to the darkness. And the tragedy of this our life, and of your life, is that the mental and nerve consciousness exerts a tyranny over the blood-consciousness, and that your will has gone completely over to the mental consciousness, and is engaged in the destruction of your blood-being or blood-consciousness, the final liberating of the one, which is only death in result.

>>716234737
>>716206393
A huge part of Bloodborn is a criticism of the tyranny of the intellect over the instincts and how intellectuals can create a toxic system that destroys people by overlooking instinctual fears or aversions with their excessive curiosity or ambition.
The Hunter is a creature of instinct that must clean up the mess of intellectuals that messed around with things that were far beyond their reach regardless of common sense or natural fears.
Those that ignored their blood consciousness and pursued enlightenment through the brain, and became worse for it. And who doped the masses with substances that distorted their blood and caused atavistic breakdowns in otherwise normal people, turning them into beasts.
Quicksilver/Mercury in the blood representing the presence of Eldritch Gods is a big part of this. Also a reference to the Minamata Incident in Japan.

>>716156162
That is every single FromSoft game.
I don't think a single one ever came out of development even half resembling its original form other than maybe Sekiro and the AC games.
Elden Ring is just as bad as everything that came before.

>>716207254
You're really stretching these comparisons hard.

>>716235237
>That is every single FromSoft game.
>hurr durr muh original form
People should really stop wanking over early designs and "cut content".
Every single complex project, be it vidya, movies, novels, engineering, anything whatsoever, involves rough initial drafts for the purpose of finding out what works and what doesn't. And those drafts are then gradually molded into the final product by iteration and refinement. There's nothing sacred about them, they literally exist to be cut up and discarded as necessary.
Every single game in existence has "cut content", that does not make it unfinished. Quite the opposite actually - the only games without cut content are those that are never finished and released.

Demon's Souls and Dark Souls 1 were more 'late areas ended up unfinished' and less 'the entire game's plot changed 4 months before release and half the bosses and areas now make no narrative sense if you think about it for longer than 0.5 seconds'. Like DeS would've fundamentally been the same game had it had the 6th Archstone, and DaS' Project Dark trailer looks like the same game unlike BB with Project Beast. Even elements like Andre pushing that Firelink statue away or being Gwyn's descendant pale in comparison with whatever the fuck DS3's plot was meant to be during the The Know leaks

>>716124971
>poignant violin soloist playing in the background

>>716236415
I'm still convinced miyazaki ruined ds3

>>716236415
Meant for >>716235237

any decent place to download bloodborne?

>>716236742
Some days I feel like Bloodborne is the game it is because Miyazaki wasn't given time to refine his ideas further. It's his mindset at its most 'raw'. DS3, be it because he second guessed himself or be it because Bamco requested he leave the door open for needless sequels, seemed to go from "oh shit this is the apocalypse, the world is ending, everything is rotting away, it's the eclipse of the whole universe" as teased in the leaks and High Wall of Lothric with the Pus of Man to the weird ass thing where "the world has ended in Untended Graves but also not really, and people are turning into trees but that's never elaborated upon, and there's Primordial Serpent statues in Lothric but that's never elaborated upon, and putting together the ashes of all the lords of cinder... teleports you to the Dreg Heap? But it's a totally different Dreg Heap from that of the DLCs. And the plot is suddenly all about paint now. And there's this Ringed City where Gwyn's SECOND secret daughter was chilling in all along, and touching her egg destroys all but Lothric and Anor Londo in the background. Which is interesting because you had to walk through the ruins of Lothric to get to the Ringed City. And the final boss of the entire trilogy is a Santa hobo you've talked to twice before"

>>716237029
https://romsfun.com/roms/playstation-4/bloodborne.html
By default the emulator won't recognize the file because it needs to be extracted and they took that option out for copyright reasons, so you'll need to download an older version of shadps4 then do "Install packages (PKG)". Then if the game's not updated, get this and install it the same way
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1fu4WacTloTgklDPKa8QQQjjUBI_CVN5E/view

>>716234737
>>716235082
However, Bloodborne rejects this idea, as evidenced by the fact humans (including the player) can ascend to become Great Ones. The decisive factor in all this is insight, or inhuman knowledge as the game puts it. Gaining insight decreases your beasthood stat. The beast represents humanity's atavistic and instinctual shadow, which becomes agitated when faced with the potential for transcendence, and its own obsolescence; but supreme knowledge is capable of overcoming it. The ideology of Byrgenwerth was proven correct by the story's events; the scholars' primary error was simply their retarded literalism (lets stick eyes in our skulls for insight!!1). Mind over matter, and knowledge above all. Bloodborne is a Faustian tale, if anything.

>>716236415
>unlike BB with Project Beast
How so? the green lighting and the pre-blood bullet shooting system are the only really significant things that were in the PB trailer that weren't there in the final game unless you count them moving bribri from upstairs to downstairs and that didn't have anything to do with the game's story
All of BB's early story draft shit got iterated through way earlier than anything shown in the PB trailer and all that really changed was instead of finding Laurence to cure your illness being the reason you're exploring finding Paleblood to cure a less explicitly described illness is why you're exploring

>>716237297
>oh shit this is the apocalypse, the world is ending, everything is rotting away, it's the eclipse of the whole universe"
Still is
>High Wall of Lothric with the Pus of Man
Pus of Man happens because the stagnating Dark within Men can no longer be held back by the fading ring of fire around the Dark Sign.
>the world has ended in Untended Graves but also not really
Untended Graves are a glimpse into a world where Dark is about to take over, and where made by the Kingdom of Lothric so that the stagnant time there could let them project prospecting Lords of Cinder to the Kiln of the First Flame.
>people are turning into trees
Because all people are trees. They were born in the age of ancients where only trees and dragons existed. Hollows have always had a ligneous, rooty texture upon themselves in DS1.
>Primordial Serpent statues in Lothric
Lothric has centered its culture upon the Linking of the Fire, thus they have statues of Frampt.
>putting together the ashes of all the lords of cinder... teleports you to the Dreg Heap?
Bonefires are all linked across time. Thanks to the Lordvessel under the Firelink bonefire, you teleport to the future version of the Kiln where it has almost consumed everything else.
>But it's a totally different Dreg Heap from that of the DLCs.
It's from a little later in time
>And the plot is suddenly all about paint now.
Ariamis always painted the DS1 world with his blood.
>Ringed City where Gwyn's SECOND secret daughter was chilling in all along
Never said that Gwyn had no second daughter
>touching her egg destroys all
It's a giant Vagrant that's being used to hold back time from affecting the City. Defusing it makes millennia pass in an instant.
>And the final boss of the entire trilogy is a Santa hobo you've talked to twice before"
Gael becomes essentially the first to Link the Dark Soul.

>>716236793
I still can't tell if this was meant to be the final world state for firelink shrine with this being meant to be a distance shot you couldn't explore or if this was supposed to be that whole map that got eliminated from the endgame
It seems pretty obvious that this got turned into the Dreg Heap at the very end but there's still so much in this one image that was never used by the game at all and that would be crazy to me if this was the latter

>>716111820
Burial blade
Maria of the clocktower
Yharnam
Those big bug creatures with a flower on the tip of their head
Gherman!

>>716221106
I love how it goes from a vampire and werewolf story to eldritch horror in a slow subtle way.

>>716237297
The idea of DS3 being this dramatic apocalypse seems like it was the work of the original director, Mitsubishi only got involved in the last year of development.
Also it's all one dreg heap, where the entire endgame collapses in on itself storywise is when you crack the egg and all the possibilities of where you are in the timeline right after that make absolutely no sense because many years are stated to have passed but simultaneously Lothric Castle and Anor Londo look like they do right at the start of DS3

>>716111820
>>weapon
Kirkhammer
>>boss
Gehrman
>>area
Clock Tower
>>enemy
Crows with dog heads
>>npc
Doll

I thoroughly enjoy how every time someone complains about cut content in BB the conversation always shifts to DS3 because no one can make compelling arguments for cut content in BB mattering all that much while for DS3 they flow like a fucking river

>>716237297
>But it's a totally different Dreg Heap from that of the DLCs. And the plot is suddenly all about paint now. And there's this Ringed City where Gwyn's SECOND secret daughter was chilling in all along, and touching her egg destroys all but Lothric and Anor Londo in the background. Which is interesting because you had to walk through the ruins of Lothric to get to the Ringed City. And the final boss of the entire trilogy is a Santa hobo you've talked to twice before"
To be clear I agree that DS3 is a huge mess and was harmed massively by all the shuffling around, but this description is either disingenuous or shallow. The DLC storytelling made sense to me. It's all the same Dreg Heap; you can teleport from the Kiln of the First Flame over to it. Dreg Heap represents the collapse of time and space at the end of the Age of Fire, with all the different civilizations that existed at different points in history converging on the Firelink Shrine, forming a massive sinkhole of civilizational refuse. Below it all lies the end of time; the final state which always invariably awaits at the end of all the countless cycles - an ashen wasteland dotted with ruins, everything in existence burnt up to sustain the Age of Fire. The Ringed City is a sort of microcosmic reality marble which exists in this place, but falls apart upon Filianore's awakening. Gael represents the Undead and their struggle. Having consumed every last fragment of the Dark Soul, his wounding transposes it into blood, thereby liberating it from the curse of the seal of fire Gwyn had placed upon it, finally ending the Age of Fire for good and enabling the creation of a new world for humanity. It's the reason soul transposition was considered a heretical art and Ludleth was banished for practicing it.

>>716239038
What the fuck is a bribri. And I'm talking about magical chair bosses like >>716159249, with Amelia being designed for Hemwick and the like. Areas like Hemwick or Nightmare Frontier being designed to be played backwards from how they're played in the final game, game starting in Hemwick, the concept of warp chairs which would've tied to finding Micolash' corpse sitting in one, or hell's sake just Micolash in general. Why does he fight with Why does Micolash beckon Kos? Why does he fight with Augur of Ebrietas and A Call Beyond if Ebrietas is tied to the Choir and he's the leader of Mensis, their archnemesis? Because during 90% of the game's development who we know as Ebrietas was called Kos, and so those where Kos' weapons. So when he talked about "Kos or some say Kosm" he didn't mean a boss that didn't exist until 7 months later in a DLC in a dream plane several realities apart from him, he meant the Old One that's now in-game in a location that makes no geographical sense. You know, the Great One who's connected to Rom, who Micolash says "like you did with Rom, grant us eyes" tying it all together, the one that technically has a deep connection to the Healing Church and Byrgenwerth yet is suspiciously optional and matters little in the final game. Also, why is the Church venerating the Beast skull of their leader in the open? Why does Byrgenwerth, led by a grandpa in a wheelchair, have you climb a hand ladder to get to their observatory? Why is Logarius a Pthumerian looking guy sitting in a throne with a crown in his head weirdly NOT the King of Cainhurst?

>>716239151
Finish your games, Hidetaka

>>716240876
Anon's point is that Gael is a literal who non-character that you don't even build a relationship with even though he appears in both DLCs. Like if you told someone after Ariandel and before Ringed City that fucking Gael would become the final boss of the trilogy they would've laughed at you

>>716111820
>weapon
Burial Blade

>boss
Ebrietas

>area
Forsaken Castle Cainhurst

>enemy
Winter Lantern

>npc
Oedon Chapel Dweller

>>716182741
Where the elves fits into this?

>>716240876
>reach end of time
>get dark souls for loli painter that doesn't exist anymore because it's the end of time
>trasnform dark soul into blood paint for loli painter that doesn't exist anymore because it's the end of time
>???
>teleport out
>is no longer the end of time, things are as frozen as they were at the end of the last DLC, loli painter is still around
"Time is convoluted". If DS3 was like DS1, you probably wouldn't be allowed to keep playing after the ending and it'd be all the better for it. PvP was a mistake.

>>716117050
>>716111296 (OP)
Everyone who says there are lore for these dudes is reaching.

There was meant to be a giant snake boss, it got cut because of lack of dev time because they blew their load on Yharnam and had to rush everything from the woods to the end of the game.

The giant snake was meant to be the source of the snake parasites that had infested the woods but because it got cut along with all its lore, and it just got repurposed into a boss attack + the snake whistle tool, all the lore got cut with it. So now the snake parasites look like giant space fleas from nowhere

IRL explanation, they were just doing Los Plagas

>>716241301
Scratching my head at most of this post.
BB was never going to start in Hemwick, the starting point alternated between different places in Iosefka's clinic, and that was being figured out when the asset-less level layouts were still being decided on. In the story of the final game, Bergenwyrth made contact with Ebrietas before the split even happened, and it happened in the labyrinth, which the Augur literally tells you upfront. Swapping the names around didn't create any inconsistencies with any of that. Switching the king out for Logarius narratively also was minimal impact, because the crown is still the actual Cainhurst King's crown. I think the warp chairs were cooler than the lanterns but the rest of this is really just "look at this thing that changed in development" but they don't speak to a radically different or a more cohesive game at all.

>>716238393
You become a Great One by eating them.
By imbibing their flesh and digesting it and making it a part of yourself.
You eat the umbilical cords, the conveyance of blood between the mother and child, and assimilate that blood into your own. You don't become a Great One with just Insight, you could have 99 Insight and it means nothing.
You become one by making it a part of your unconscious mind within your body, rather than your brain.

>>716236184
The issue isn't cut content, it is that how things are cut or rearranged is so drastic and sweeping that it indicates that what exists in the end product is hardly intentional and well planned, but just what survived by the time the release date came up.
When the story of version 1.0, without the Day 1 Patch, can be totally different from the version 1.xx, that changes things from just 'cut content' to "this game is held together with zip ties and dreams right now".

>>716117050
Their name is a double meaning. They're both shadowy figures of Yharnam (the location), and they were formerly the "shadows" (guards) of Yharnam (the Queen).

>>716241648
And that's a fair point. My autism just gets triggered by shallow critique and poor media literacy.

>>716242293
I mean, yeah. Time travel is an established thing in the setting, and time and space themselves turn into hyperslop when the fire fades, because Gwyn's folly inextricably linked them to the First Flame. That's the point.

>>716242609
>lack of dev time
The boss was unintuitive as hell, which was why they got rid of it. And the Shadows of Yharnam went through multiple iterations after it got taken out, so time definitely wasn't a factor.
The revised version without all the additional heads popping out of the ground was totally finished and ready to pop up during blood moon too, it was just that shitty to fight.

>>716242609
>>716243081
Post Bloodborne and Souls development lore

>>716134458
>there's really no other enemy that is just unfun to fight.
*frenzies you from 40 feet away*
LA LA LA...

Nothing personnel..

>>716242950
>When the story of version 1.0, without the Day 1 Patch, can be totally different from the version 1.xx
If you're saying this in regards to BB I have to laugh because there was like 1 thing of actual significance that got patched and it was just the background for where one of the umbilical cords came from
You'd have a stronger case with Elden Ring because aside from random NPC names that got cut out of the final set of descriptions they were making changes to Godrick's banished knight invasion timeline and changed an entire Leyndell enemy layout last minute

What are the lore ramifications of the "Yharnam Sunrise" ending?
So you really just wake up, escape the dream, gtfo of Yharnam and leave everyone stuck in the dream to suffer?

Granted they are literally unsaveable, but do you really get away from The Great Ones and get to go live a normal life after you think? While Yharnam forever exists as a graveyard full of corpses with their souls/minds stuck in psychic limbo

>>716111820
>saw cleaver
>ebrietas (my wife) or Moon Presence
>central yharnam
>labyrinth madmen
>ebrietas (my wife)

Never played the DLC but from what I've seen, Orphan of Kos would be my favorite boss.

I love Bloodborne dearly, but I still don't get the central fucking plot one bit.
So it's all within a dream that you enter at the start of the game, obviously, but for what purpose? Why are you going into a dream with old gods and monsters, what possible purpose could this serve?

>it's to get Pale Blood
Well what the fuck is Pale Blood, and why is it in a dream? And why do you wake up in the middle of town in the "get killed by Gherman and wake up" ending and not back in the clinic where you went to sleep?

>>716111296 (OP)
>released 10 years ago

I like how Micolash being Willem's other self went from being almost explicitly stated ingame to being heavily obscured and partially cut out by one of the dubs of the game, since the two of them are supposed to have the same voice
And of course how it became a huge point of contention for the community

>>716243620
Yharnam Sunrise basically just makes you like Djura or Eileen. You can honestly do whatever the fuck you want but there's still going to be another hunt eventually
Depending on how canon you want the NG+ dialogue to be the hunt you were on might just repeat forever unless you take one of the other endings

longest surviving thread on /v/ for at least 5 years, good job

>>716243415
I was more thinking of Elden Ring when I typed that.

>>716242749
>BB was never going to start in Hemwick
But it was
>Bergenwyrth made contact with Ebrietas before the split
First contact in the Chalice Dungeons ≠ study and use of the phantasm that produces the Augur, which must've come later. Likewise, A Call Beyond outright states it's "a powerful part of the Choir's arsenal"
>Swapping the names around didn't create any inconsistencies
Yeah I'm sure Micolash talking about Kos the Great One he worships, thanks for uplifting Rom, seeks and whose weapons he uses isn't affected by the Great One that's readily connected to Rom and the weapons in-game having been renamed because once upon a time Ebrietas was the name of the Moon Presence and they weren't gonna have the resident Mensis schizo talk about a character that wouldn't exist until the DLC
>they don't speak to a more cohesive game
But they do

>>716242752
>You eat the umbilical cords
You don't. If you had to consume the cords to make use of them, the player wouldn't be able to find them to begin with because they would've been used up already by Laurence and others. They're not literal cords that connect to ayy lmao wombs, they're just the Great Ones equivalent of that which is why puny humans called them cords, to be able to make sense of them. In reality they're just a weird alien organ that facilitates communication between mother and child, not necessarily through blood

>fellating cut content with semantics
no easier way to get me to check out of a from software thread

>>716243620
What you go through in the game was real. Dreams in Bloodborne are more other planes of existence and less "it's all in your head". Djura and Eileen where Hunter's Dream hunters before you, they did their due hunting beasts then woke up. You just become like them, it means you're unshackled from the Doll but also your death is final. Really, your hunt would've been a generic one with only a bunch of normal beasts to hunt had the Mensis ritual not been going on at the same time

>>716228525
Iosefka's clinic is definitely patterned off standard 1800s medical offices.
The gallery where you have the catwalks above the operating tables was a very standard part of that era's medical education, as students would watch doctors below from up above to learn. In earlier versions of the area, you'd even be able to get up there and obtain some items.

>>716244619
Hemwick was one of the first maps that they made, not the intended start point of the whole game. There's like 5 different revisions of the blood minister's dialogue from the early clinic iterations too.
>study and use of the phantasm that produces the Augur
This happened at Burgertown anyway so you still don't have a strong point on this. They even made a point of showing that these hunter tools existed at the time Mensis trapped the main school building in the nightmare.

>>716245447
The easier explanation is that the entire world is someone's dream and we're just living on the bottom layer of it

>>716170359
>>716170486
Imagine bragging about being a paypig for Sony.

>>716173182
Why do that to yourself?
They aren't even fucking fun.
Its just the worst experience of your life over and over again.
Go fist pigs if you need levels.

>>716187623
Left over followers of a dead wannabe goddess. She wanted to kill all the Gods and got smited from history for it.
Wear the skins of demigods and random poor chumps they killed and stitched together.
Covering themselves in skin gives them super powers.

>>716243620
It means you escape being tethered to the dream and the horrid night of the hunt that seemingly lasts longer than usual due to Mensis and Mergo. But more hunts will happen, god knows how many Yharnamites are alive. Even the beggar inside the Cathedral Ward and a few other NPC's say this particular hunt isn't a joke or routine like the others.

>>716245004
They're literally actual umbilical cords, Yharnam and Fake Iosefka make that clear, and we do tons of shit that other people don't with our artifacts.
Laurence would never have had the gumption to eat the umbilical cord, that is why he became a beast and not a God after mixing his blood. We don't just try and commune with the Gods through it as a fetish, we make it a part of our flesh and body and our real spiritual soul. It isn't an intellectual experience, but a physical one.

>>716242752
>>716245004
>Use to gain Insight and, so they say, eyes on the inside, although no one remembers what that truly entails.
>Provost Willem sought the Cord in order to elevate his being and thoughts to those of a Great One, by lining his brain with eyes. The only choice, he knew, if man were to ever match Their greatness.
>This Cord granted Mensis audience with Mergo, but resulted in the stillbirth of their brains.
The "eyes on the inside" represent the degree of lucidity one can attain while dreaming. A single cord isn't enough, which is why Gehrman and Micolash ended up trapped in nightmares controlled by different Great Ones. Upon consuming 3 cords one attains full lucidity and mastery over the dream. This is why the Hunter is able to literally wrest control of the Hunter's Dream from the Moon Presence. It actually becomes the player's dream upon consuming the third cord. This interpretation makes the most sense to me as it is perfectly in line with the way Lovecraft treated dreams and humanity's relationship with them in his stories.

>>716245876
So she's not racist?

>>716175085
Sony has the easiest fucking job in the world
>60fps BB
>change up the matchmaking system so it resembles modern souls (bluepoint literally did this for DeS remake so they have negative excuses)
>add some new chalice dungeon features + maybe a respec
That's it
easy several million copies sold

>>716218136
>what about a crucible knight but it can phase around like one of the mausoleum ghosts?
I'm surprised that From didn't drop a fat load like that on us.

>>716246402
The perfect time to do any of this was the 10 year anniversary this year and they could've made easy money. They. Do. Not. Care. They would rather promote Dad of War, a lesbian in a post apocalyptic zombie world and an ugly woman with facial hair killing dinosaur robots in a game nobody played.

the moistcritical rumor that started circulating recently I hope ruins his reputation I hate that horse's ass

>>716244046
For the dream part, see >>716245447. For the rest: you're looking for Paleblood. The game opens with the Blood Minister going "oh yes, Paleblood..." showing he's talking about it as a response to your question. Then after ministration, you find pic related which in JP is made clearer that you wrote yourself. The description of the clothes you start the game in end with "Without memory, who will ever know?", establishing that the intro's blood ministration left you with amnesia. So you came to Yharnam looking for Paleblood, but you now don't remember why or even what that is. Great.
So blood ministration is basically being injected by Old Blood from the dungeons, which as an outsider means you end up having a bad trip. That is probably what the Blood Minister refers to when he says "You may think it all a mere bad dream...". He probably doesn't mean the Hunt, but the hallucination with the werewolf reaching for you. Only then, the Messengers pop in and choose you ("Ah, you've found yourself a Hunter"). There's no reason for this, you're just randomly selected to be this Night's main Hunter, and Gherman himself tells you to not think about it too hard and to just go out there and kill some beasts.
So you ask Gilbert, the window NPC in front of the first (second) lamp in the game, about Paleblood 'cause you read your own note about it, and he tells you he doesn't know what that is but that the Healing Church is Blood HQ so they might know something about it. That leads you to Cathedral Ward and on the way you find out about Byrgenwerth from both Alfred's dialogue and the note in Oedon Chapel's basement. Your search of the Church bears no fruit because it's empty except for one furry wife, and upon touching a funky skull you find even more out about Byrgenwerth so you decide to just... head there, because I mean fuck it not like you have a better plan.

>>716244046
>>716247281
So in any case, all this shit started when Willem leader of Byrgenwerth and Laurence his pupil found the Old Blood in the Chalices and thought they could ascend humanity with it. Only Willem wanted to chill out and study it first while Laurence wanted to act now, which is what formed the schism: Willem tells Laurence to fear the old blood, Laurence goes to Yharnam and founds the Healing Church on the promise of this funky new blood being good for the citizens (it isn't). In time subfactions emerge like the Choir and Mensis, and the latter go full schizo wanting to pull this ritual off that summons the red moon to try and ascend as well ("Grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy"). At some point, somehow, one of the closest times humanity gets to ascending happens via Rom, a supposed Byrgenwerth scholar and follower of Willem, who turns into the caterpillar spider she is. And as a follower of the grandpa that believes these newer generations are playing with fire that will destroy humanity, she uses her power to delay the ritual and the moon for as long as she can, hidden in the lake ("The Byrgenwerth spider hides all manner of rituals, and keeps our lost master from us" on the Mensis side of things and "The spider hides all manner of rituals, certain to reveal nothing, for true enlightenment need not be shared" on the Byrgenwerth side). Thing is, our Hunter is a fucking retard who kills her, breaking the seal and ushering in the blood moon and the full might of the ritual of Mensis. Beasts transform all over the city, the Choir is annihilated (the "Make Contact" mummy probably spontaneously combusted on the spot while making contact with the moon right when the ritual was revealed), Yahar'gul lads summon The One Reborn...

>>716244046
>>716247281
>>716247351
It's at this point your Hunter is told "Ritual secret broken. Seek the nightmare newborn". Likewise, exploring the rest of the Unseen Village you find another note going "Nightmarish rituals crave a newborn. Find one, and silence its harrowing cry". So whatever crazy stuff is happening, your objective if you want this nightmare to end is to find a newborn and end his cries. You could arrive at Yahar'gul earlier in the story and find a weird note saying "Behold! A Paleblood sky!" only no such sky was present. Now, with the ritual revealed, you can see the blood moon and purple sky around it, signifying the moon was there all along even the first time you came around, you just couldn't see it due to Rom, akin to dark Anor Londo in DS1. The sky, the moon, THAT is the Paleblood that our character was looking for, for some reason. And to end the Paleblood sky and thus the nightmare and the Hunt, we need to end the newborn that Mensis/Micolash seek. So you go to the Nightmare of Mensis, stop Micolash, find the newborn Mergo, silence him and end your hunt. That's why it's only at this point that you can choose to end the game and return to the Waking World. There's more, like who the Moon Presence is, who Mergo/Yharnam are, the whole deal with Laurence and the Cainhurst Vilebloods, but desu I'm tired of typing so hope you got something out of it.

>>716244046
Paleblood is a certain type of sky color when a certain ritual has been performed. The Mensis ritual.
Its meant to reference a corpse colored sky in the Japanese, IIRC, like a cadaver, where all the blood is gone from the skin. Particularly like the lips. Which is why when you see it the Moon (Presence) is close, reddened, and the sky is a purple blue.
When the Mensis ritual is unsealed again properly, and it is revealed that they made a communion with the Gods. And this seems to open up the door for Gods to make their presence known again.
We want to seek this, because their ritual also happened to open up a direct path to Mergo, the Great One that the Hunter's boss is trying to get us to kill for them.

>>716194552
i did a similar thing with a 2nd ds3 playthrough, basically just upped saturation because of how ugly and grey the base game is
it was overall good but i had to have a hotkey to disable the shaders as it made certain areas unplayable because it was too dark to explore properly

>>716111393
fpbp
>>716227025
you first

I wish From made a spiritual successor to Bloodborne, if they aren't keen on a direct sequel. They keep making followups to Demons Souls with Dark Souls and Elden Ring but wheres the trick weapons, guns, proper rally mechanic, quickstep, Victorian era clothing, architecture?

>>716111820
>weapon
Ringed Knight paired GS
Bloodborne Moonlight GS
Coral Oscillator
Zweihander/Greatsword
>boss
I'll just list off a few notable bosses I like:
Slave Knight Gael
Hoarah Loux
Midra
Isshin
Balteus
>area
Limgrave I'd say. It's such a good start to the game
>enemy
other players/NPCs
>npc
Greirat
Patches
Alexander
Rusty
Solaire
(I like the jolly/nice/bro NPCs, constrasts with the grim and dreary world)

A bumper must bump

>>716111296 (OP)
I killed these niggas like 4 separate times without dying but the last time I fought them I died at least twice. It made a bit sad.

>>716256705
I used to be able to do this fight with my eyes shut but when I came back to BB I got wasted for like 2 hours

>>716230883
>How is she not when she feels it necessary to lock the door
Wonder if it's because of the part of her dialogue where she says I CANNOT OPEN THIS DOOR BECAUSE THE PATIENTS HERE IN MY CLINIC MUST NOT BE EXPOSED TO INFECTION
>and abandon the first few rooms
Wonder if it has anything to do with the Scourge Beast chilling in it and the EXPOSED INFECTION COMING FROM HIS BLOOD AND THE CORPSES IN THE ROOM
>They didn't have modern sterile operating rooms back then you know
Which of course automatically translates to shoving a couple stretchers into random rooms filled with books and shit instead of something like the Research Hall or the countless pictures we have of well organized Victorian medical clinics
>the blood she gives you (obviously derived from the old blood somehow)
No more obvious than the one Arianna can give you. Would you say a random prostitute unaware of her past is also actively working for the Healing Church?
>Given the size of her clinic
Half the clinic in the warded off section she resides in constitutes of staits and a hallway
>and the number of tables
There's 4 all grouped together in the same room where you obtain the Communion +3 rune, then one in the room the impostor dies in seemingly put there by her to try and make contact, then the two in the room you start the game in which you can see through the locked door how they remain empty. So she has 4 tables in one small room to take care of