Is it goodd?
Is it good with mods?

>>716119129 (OP)
it's a pretty good simulation with hundreds of half-baked systems that can easily be fixed with mods, if you have the interest and time to research and deal with each and every one of them
7 days to die and CDDA are extremely good alternatives, they're just different

Build 42 broke a vast majority of the good mods and has no multiplayer
While build 42 has some good ideas, it also introduces extremely gay unfun shit
If you want to play, it's probably better to stick with build 41

The non beta version is fine with a shit ton of mods to fix the bare bones sand box slop
The beta branch is the most retarded shit ever with nothing but half assed systems and a dumb as fuck dev trying to copy CDDAs autism into 2.5D
>zombies
What are those? they dont even function without mods to fix broken sprinters, pathfinding, auto deletion and tracking

If you like hoarding shit it's good.
XP is kinda fucked, good thing they added an option to set multipliers for every skill separately because some skills only need 2x while others 10x, they should fix base XP gain.

>>716120324
>good thing they added an option to set multipliers for every skill separately
It's about goddamn time, it's basically impossible to level shit like Nimble and Strength because of how slow the XP gain is. Even using exercises it takes a coon's age. I used that 10x exercise experience mod for ages.

>>716120525
I like leveling strength 0-6, maybe even 7, seems reasonable, but then it just slows down due to xp requirements, fitness is slow for me too, but I'm probably just not focusing on it. Still that's over the course of almost a year and barely anyone is willing to play for that long.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but walking around and fighting doesn't give you xp, it should, especially with muscle strain introduction, all pain and no gain.

>>716120887
You actually do get strength xp from doing stuff but its so negligible it may as well not exist, the only reasonable way to gain strength xp is doing exercises, and vanilla values are so low it's basically impossible to get anywhere with it in reasonable timeframes. You could play a 200 hour save and only get a couple levels. It's stupid and bad. I haven't played with vanilla values in many, many hours, I have over 1300 hours in the game and maybe 100 is with vanilla values. The game simply isn't fun or rewarding with vanilla xp gains.

>>716120887
The only thing that gives fitness exp is recovering stamina. Thats it. So to gain any you have to be actively recovering stamina, not full and not empty, recovering.
And its random per recovery tick. Yes this dev is THAT dumb
The only want to gain any amount of fitness is to overload your character and keep resting on chairs/floors once the stamina is drained to 0

They've spent 13 years in early access and still haven't added NPCS that they promised in 2012, what do you think?

>>716121065
>The only thing that gives fitness exp is recovering stamina. Thats it.
Why lie?

>>716121247
>take a 10 hour debuff for 30exp
vs
>sitting down holding a refrigerator for 200exp
like i said, there is only 1 way for getting fitness exp, dumbass

>>716121247
> Burpees give strength boosts.
Uhh it should be:
2.5xp Fitness and 0.5xp Strength Boost.
Its mainly a cardio strength exercise, it doesn't do as much for strength as it does for your conditioning, you should be forced to do squats and push ups for strength. (Or striking with an axe against a stump.)

What's the certified workshop list

>>716121339
That's vanilla values, who the fuck is playing with vanilla values? I get a couple thousand fitness xp per day and I'll take the debuff and I don't have to do gay unimmersive shit like sitting around holding refrigerators for hours.

>>716121424

>>716121572
Imagine her getting her neck bit by a zombie haha that would be so weird haha

>>716119129 (OP)
It's amazing

the movement is garbage weighted shit
>but its realistic
oh? then why can't i sidestep? why are the dance animations pre-baked?
you can't boil the whole complex human range of motions to WASD, so make it fucking arcadey to balance it out
the only two ways to make the game harder is more zombies or less loot
>more zombies = more congaline = tedium
>less loot = more places to loot = tedium
i hate lemmy so fucking much its unreal

>>716119129 (OP)
Build 41 (especially with mods) is very good if you want to play what is basically a zombie apocalypse sim.
The devs are entitled and slow as shit to put out updates (and they focus on really weird stuff that nobody asked for), just know that before you buy it.
Stick with B41 and get the "common sense" mod for your first playthrough.

>>716121821
This looks like shit, pre build 40 boomers need to get the fuck over it.

>>716122054
back to work lemmy your hair plugs need replacing

CDDA is better, CTLG is much better

>>716119129 (OP)
Zomboid had a really good early game but mid and end game absolutely sucks. Once you've gotten a working car and picked a base, theres nothing to do after you've done a couple supply runs. There still isn't but the latest build made early game shit too.
Zomboid developers seem to just blatantly hate the people playing it and try to make the game worse on purpose so you just die and restart instead of actually playing the game.
Zomboid is one of those games I feel like is one mod overhaul away from being an 11/10 game though. Maybe once they finally introduce npcs and introduce quests that will be a good enough framework for someone to make something really cool.

>>716122054
going from the sims to realistic 3d slop was the worst thing to happen to the game other than multiplayer fags downplaying NPCS

>>716122159
>Zomboid had a really good early game but mid and end game absolutely sucks. Once you've gotten a working car and picked a base, theres nothing to do after you've done a couple supply runs
Any mod to fix this? My main gripe with the game

>>716122185
The game was only good after ambiguousamphibian released this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkOuxKS6ZBU
The game was not good until this video dropped.
The game also hasn't been good since 41.50.

>>716121781
is this dev team full of retarded libtard trannies too?

why the fuck isn't there a single dev team in existence that isn't doing this stupid shit

>>716122054
For me it's the style between the old 2d and the current 3d, the "light 3d" for lack of a better word.
I wish there was a mod to get it back, I don't wanna roll back to like build 40 or whatever and lose mods.

>>716122263
The only one I can think of is theres a mod to make a zombie horde come to your base every week or two, it makes it instead of just sitting in a cabin in the woods you have to either be mobile living like a nomad or makes it so you also need to focus on defenses / fighting back the horde.
The only problem is the latest build heavily nerfs the player and also makes it way harder to get the gear to defend yourself by making it rarer and putting it in hotspots with such massive amounts of zombies you'd already have to be geared to the teeth to get.
Nomad playthrus are probably the best thing you could do for now.

>>716122263
No

problem is you need some kind of survival pressure that challenges the player constantly and there's no mechanic that does that. There's some potential in weather and medicine but both mechanics are too barebones for anyone to do anything with. It'd be nice to have some more zombie behaviours to switch things up into the mid-late game, but the dev team is autistically focused on turning the game into minecraft for some reason.

Probably the biggest element for really fleshing out mid-late game would be antagonist NPC's, but at this point it's pretty clearly never happening.

Boring aah game. Miss me with this gay shit. 7 days to die is still the best zombie game

>>716122702
frfr no cap ong bruh, this shit be lookin like sims 1 nigga

>>716119165
>CDDA
WOAH THIS GAME LOOKS SICK.

>>716119165
7d2d is a shadow of its former self.

>>716122263
Yes.
Horde night mod that makes zombies attack you based off certain conditions
And the extraction mod which gives you an end game mission to escape the zone.
Now horde night would actually be the best mod for the game IF fucking engineer traps worked in multiplayer...they dont. So its just a straight up defense game with no cool traps or turrets at that point.

>>716119129 (OP)
b42 replaced all the soulful sprite moodlets with soulless 3d garbage versions

>>716122807
I'm used to playing roguelikes and CDDA's problem isn't how ugly it looks, its problem is the controls are utter shit, feels like a game made by a linux troon

>>716122751
bet

>>716122807
Its a roguelike and tiles are available, even with just ascii is still a much better game

>>716122992
A complex game needs complex controls

>>716122263
Npc mods like Day One, Week One, Bandits, add a lot to make the game feel more interesting and fun and make the world feel more alive and but are still overall lacking.

A semi random npc system would help the game immensely. Random npc encounters, npc recruitment, npc raid attacks, npc trading, etc would add more interest and challenge and help fill in the mid to late game.

>>716123264
Maybe Dwarf Fortress style mod for CDDA's NPCs would be kino.

>>716119129 (OP)
easily the best zombie simulator

>>716119165
>CDDA is an extremely good alternatives
LMAO shut your mouth

>>716119129 (OP)
optimized like shit
good game

>>716119553
>YOU DONT GET IT! ITS GOOD ACTUALLY THAT YOUR ARMS GE FUCKED UP AFTER KILLING FIVE ZOMBIES!

>>716122925
Horny mood when??

>>716122807
>woah, my guy's excel sheet looks fucked up

>>716123390
CDDA's NPC are worse than the Zomboid NPCs that some mods can add, its literally what would make these games good but every single developer refuses to implement them in a decent way, only Rogue Survivor had "smart" NPCs and that game stopped getting official updates more than a decade ago

>>716122350

Why is the update so slow?

Is developing this game a second job/hobby?

>>716128129
>Is developing this game a second job/hobby?
Worse according the the retarded incompetent dev the entire source code for this multi million dollar game is on a 20 year old Acer laptop that constantly gets stolen, immersed in water, burned or some other calamity that befalls it and thats if hes not having a personal breakdown and doesnt want to work on the game because of mental health issues

>>716128354
Just buy a new laptop, a 20 year old Acer isn't as incompatible to modern systems like something that came out from the 90s or 80s.

Looks like the dev just gave up but don't want to give up his shekel machine.

>>716128571
>Looks like the dev just gave up but don't want to give up his shekel machine.

Play CDDA instead. Zomboid is the kiddie version