Play Doom

Doom doesn't get fun unless you put it on Ultra Violence.

i played doom 64 not too long ago and loved it.
i couldn't finish doom 2016. not simple enough for my boomer tastes

64 is trash.
There was no reason to let Midway redesign the monsters, the weapons or really anything else. This was the start of the cacodemon ruination.

>>716136634
That's correct, you actually didn't beat the game unless it's on UV.

>>716136634
there are people who play doom outside of uv?

>>716136482 (OP)
Doom 2016 is good

>dead simple

2016 and Eternal are both just as terrible. Eat shit.

>>716136482 (OP)
I still boot it up fairly often

>>716136482 (OP)
Where does doom the dark ages fit in here?

>bethesda garbage

>>716136482 (OP)
Nice try Zoomternal fag. YWNBAD.

>>716136696
Doom eternal and the dark ages are even less simpler, which is why 2016 is better than both

>>716139710
Less simple*

I played Necromantic Thirst and I slogged through the first episode before packing it in. Archviles, Revenants and Cyberdemons everywhere in every map (and always in close quarters). It got old very fast and the WADs levels weren't unique enough to suffer through more of it.

I also played Sunset Irrelegion and it was much better although I wish it was longer than 15 maps. The levels were just starting to get interesting and then it was over. The fights and levels were much better designed in this WAD. Not the best of the best, but very enjoyable.

>>716136923
yeah this also if you die you need to restart the game and start again at the first level. and you need to progress through the entire game this way in one playthrough without dying on UV to have beaten it. also you cant have eaten anything with caffeine in it because that is a buff. in fact if you havent done a 24 hour fast it isnt legitimate either. also you should be naked while playing the game also your clothing might give you some kind of benefit we havent thought of yet.

>>716136482 (OP)
Which wad should I play?

>>716142046
Pluton!

Doom 3 was the game that evolved the franchise's formula the most but we are not ready to have this conversation yet because of marketers who try to promote the newest thing and contrarians who refuse to accept that a game can evolve without adding more enemies on the screen.

>>716137594
>Doom 2016 is good

>>716142046
alien vendetta
>>716142754
it evolved it so much that the next iteration of doom went "back" to painkiller-style arena shooter lol

>>716142754
well doom didnt even really change from doom 1 to doom 2 that much did it? it was more like an expansion of doom 1. it had more weapons and more enemies which is why all wads are made for doom 2. but did they really change much about the game or the engine between doom 1 and 2? as far as i see it doom 1 is really more like doom 0.5 and doom 2 is doom 1.0. or doom 1 is doom 1.0 and doom 2 is like doom 1.5 or whatever.

>>716137525
There are some WADs that pwn me if I play on UV

>>716137525
For me, this goes in the same category as "There are people who don't pistol start every map?"

>>716136482 (OP)
okay

>>716138079
Hidden in the shadow of 3.

>>716144806
some wads are explicitly designed around not pistol-starting

>>716136482 (OP)
I am

>>716137525
There's some dickish fan-made wads out there
>HMP on fan-made wad is about on par with UV on the classic games
>UV on same fan-made wad is slaughter bullshit

>>716136482 (OP)
I tried the bethesda port of doom 1 and 2 (i bought it before they bought id and got it for free) and holy hell this atrocious

>>716136634
Well Duh. That's the official difficulty. Just like how Nightmare is for Doom Eternal.

>>716137845
Sorry you're bad at FPS.

>>716145356
the perfect way to enjoy doom 3 is with sikkmod and a crt shader since carmack made the game based on the top of the line CRT screens of 2002/2003

>5 god damn years of tortanicfag crying

>>716142046
sigil 1 and 2

>>716149234
ive heard 2 is pretty meh

>>716136482 (OP)
I did! played both of them and a bit of the Doom 3 spinoff. So, all of them plus one.

>>716149325
I mean, 1 is definitely better but 2 is still worth playing. Legacy of Rust turned out to be really good as well (up until the last map, anyway).

>>716142046
okuplok on UV max

>>716142046
Lunar Strain

Every single DOOM game is good except for DOOM 3.

>>716136482 (OP)
I do. I prefer classic 1990s Doom with wads and a few mods for flavour.
I'm starting to like Quake more though, if only for the 3D movement and the verticality. Plus it has an atmosphere nothing else has been able to capture, probably the result of it being a last minute unholy mash up of dark fantasy RPG assets crammed into an FPS.

>>716144806
This is just try-hard shit, meant for a challenge and youtubers.
I've done it, but accept it's not the intended way to play most of the time.

>>716149110
A crt shader is only going to go so far when using an LCD display. These days you'd want to be using an oled.

>>716152654
Quake is a masterpiece, cant believe i waited 30 years to play it, everyone always glazed Quake 2 back in the day.

>>716153145
because it makes it brighter anon and washed up, many of doom 3 being so dark memes came from CRT users, while LCD's were bright and washed up.
AVP1-2 marine gameplay probably inspired carmack for this decision.

Also if something new comes from quakecon in august due to nightdive, i feel that they will include the E3 demo as bonus as the Bird demon too.

>>716136482 (OP)
>64 and Slowternal being included

>>716154034
Everything is Doom64 now.

>>716154030
>designed on top of the line crt
>actually it was meant to be played on a lcd

>>716154528
Yes anon, it was made for CRT's
In fact put doom 3 under a LCD vs a CRT, one guy at /vr/ made tests, and shadows on the CRT screen as the lightning felt better, while on a LCD screen of that time there were some loss of quality issues.

>>716154863
I see.

>>716137594
Bethesda Doom is gay

>>716155065
the reds on a crt screen wouldn't look bad, the shadows would be a bit more spread out and there would be proper bloom on that flashlight

>>716155514
so says the obsidrone

>>716143000
>painkiller-style arena shooter
When was Doom a painkiller style arena shooter

2016 was better than Eternal and OP is a faggot.

>b-but you got filtered by murauders
Yeah they made me fall the fucking asleep with how much of a basic bitch of an enemy they were. So fucking hard waiting for the red glow so that I can SSG and then instamurk their faggot asses.

Doom 3 is genuinely my favourite in the series.

>>716156063
>le contrarian "opinion"

>>716142046
for me its AUGER;ZENITH

>>716156156
Doom 3 is so unpopular and hated it sold 3.5 million copies in a market much smaller than the current one. Dark Ages will likely never outsell it

>>716156331
you can blame Nvidia and AMD for this.

>>716156489
the jews too?

I think vanilla old dooms are ass. I grew up with Half-Life, UT and Q3 and not having mouse look with those slow enemies in dooms feels boring. I do love Build game however but those have mouse look.

>>716142046
Antaresian Legacy

>>716142046
high noon drifter + strange aeons

>>716142046
Here
Just came back from Lunch and I've randomly chosen an anon
>>716149819
Downloading now.

>>716155610
retard

>>716156824
DOOM always had mouse look you zoomer faggot

>>716142046
scythe 2 baybeee

>>716142046
Day of the Toys

>>716138079
Dark Ages feels way more like Quake/Heretic that I wouldn't even put it here. Probably just somewhere in the background of the image doing its own thing.

>>716142046
Alien Vendetta
Scythe 2
Sunlust
These 3 are must-play

>>716157693
I'm millennial and I was talking about vertical aim. I thought something like this would be obvious. Also looking down anti old Doom people is like saying you can't enjoy side scrollesr without playing some obscure old af Atari game.

>>716159164
using a source port like gzdoom has free aim enabled by default for a reason, theres basically no reason to not have it enabled and very few maps take advantage (as in screwing the player) of no free aim. legacy of rust does it quite frequently with walls of cacos so those guys knew what they were doing, but otherwise literally doesnt matter. just dont snipe imps from a thousand miles away

>>716137845

>>716159810

>>716142046
Army of Darkness.

The moment I clipped through a floor and fell out of the level in Doom (2016) was the moment it "clicked" that John Carmack no longer has anything to do with the franchise, and it has been completely pajeet-ed.

I'm currently working on the last map of my megawad and its not going to be an Icon of Sin thing, yet I have problems coming up with any fun battles at this point. After so many goddamn maps i'm nearly burnt out.

We gonna get Heretic +Hexen this year?

>>716136634
>not playing on Nightmare
You are like a little baby.

>>716142046

>>716161769
nm is not a fun difficulty option, its for challenges and autism. permanently respawning enemies, get the fuck out of here. you can use fast monsters without nm

>>716161932
I beat Doom Eternal and both (harder) DLCs on Nightmare, including all optional challenges.
Everything else would have felt wrong.

>>716162205
the comment you replied to wasnt talking about nudoom and neither am i

it's bad

>>716162325
filtered

>>716162325
it could be worse

>>716162325
It's okay. In the Void is the only map really worth playing.
D64D2, now that's an actual kino.

>>716162256
My bad.
I only ever played the first level of the original Doom.
Doom has aged poorly imo.

>>716142046

>>716161337
Nightdive said they have some surprises at Quakecon this year.

>>716162582
try using the gzdoom source port, indistinguishable from a modern indie game

>>716136482 (OP)

>>716162779
New quake port? They made the new official doom port and since I literally never play quake I don't know its official status

>>716162582
It's actually very good and you should give it another chance. The level design is exemplary . Then play Doom II.

>>716162514
>D64D2, now that's an actual kino.
isn't that just d64 in doom 2? sounds like shit since d64 really had better atmosphere than it did levels and enemy encounters

>>716163408
Rumors of Quake 3 with all stuff even from console releases and 4, but also id wanting a new Non BFG Doom 3 Re-release as the raven Ip's.

>>716162834
>>716163443
I generally like retro shooters but dislike the sprite based enemies of very early shooters like Doom or Wolfenstein I guess.
My all time favorite is UT 2004 for example.

>>716163589
Non-BFG Doom 3 release could be absolutely amazing, Doom 3 is a game that really feels like it was made for VR but you can only play VR with the shitty BFG edition
But outside of VR why would anyone care lol

>>716163810
>disliking the kino 2.5D
it's over for you

>>716163816
Q4 getting a re-release with a proper source code release would be huge

>>716159810

>>716163927
I just don't think it's a good look.
Like, pick one set of dimensions and stick with it...

>>716163589
But exist quake live, I prefer heretic hexen and hexen 2. They need love too.

>>716159810
In the aftermath of dark ages these images need to be updated or they'll start becoming across as obsessed in several years

>>716162594
This looks brilliant

>>716164331
the advantage of enemies lacking depth is that you can have a lot of them on the screen, resulting in lower hp individual enemies which in turn is why 3D shooters tend to be noticeably more bullet-spongy than 2.5D ones despite having similar difficulty

>>716164370
Quake live sucks and isn't quake 3 Arena, is a censored shitshow made for clan arena autists at esreality forums who abhors quake 3 deathmatch unless it is their counter strike shit.
one of these fags being evil