64 is trash.
There was no reason to let Midway redesign the monsters, the weapons or really anything else. This was the start of the cacodemon ruination.
I played Necromantic Thirst and I slogged through the first episode before packing it in. Archviles, Revenants and Cyberdemons everywhere in every map (and always in close quarters). It got old very fast and the WADs levels weren't unique enough to suffer through more of it.
I also played Sunset Irrelegion and it was much better although I wish it was longer than 15 maps. The levels were just starting to get interesting and then it was over. The fights and levels were much better designed in this WAD. Not the best of the best, but very enjoyable.
>>716136923
yeah this also if you die you need to restart the game and start again at the first level. and you need to progress through the entire game this way in one playthrough without dying on UV to have beaten it. also you cant have eaten anything with caffeine in it because that is a buff. in fact if you havent done a 24 hour fast it isnt legitimate either. also you should be naked while playing the game also your clothing might give you some kind of benefit we havent thought of yet.
Doom 3 was the game that evolved the franchise's formula the most but we are not ready to have this conversation yet because of marketers who try to promote the newest thing and contrarians who refuse to accept that a game can evolve without adding more enemies on the screen.
>>716142754
well doom didnt even really change from doom 1 to doom 2 that much did it? it was more like an expansion of doom 1. it had more weapons and more enemies which is why all wads are made for doom 2. but did they really change much about the game or the engine between doom 1 and 2? as far as i see it doom 1 is really more like doom 0.5 and doom 2 is doom 1.0. or doom 1 is doom 1.0 and doom 2 is like doom 1.5 or whatever.
>>716137525
There's some dickish fan-made wads out there >HMP on fan-made wad is about on par with UV on the classic games >UV on same fan-made wad is slaughter bullshit
>>716145356
the perfect way to enjoy doom 3 is with sikkmod and a crt shader since carmack made the game based on the top of the line CRT screens of 2002/2003
>>716149325
I mean, 1 is definitely better but 2 is still worth playing. Legacy of Rust turned out to be really good as well (up until the last map, anyway).
>>716136482 (OP)
I do. I prefer classic 1990s Doom with wads and a few mods for flavour.
I'm starting to like Quake more though, if only for the 3D movement and the verticality. Plus it has an atmosphere nothing else has been able to capture, probably the result of it being a last minute unholy mash up of dark fantasy RPG assets crammed into an FPS.
>>716144806
This is just try-hard shit, meant for a challenge and youtubers.
I've done it, but accept it's not the intended way to play most of the time.
>>716153145
because it makes it brighter anon and washed up, many of doom 3 being so dark memes came from CRT users, while LCD's were bright and washed up.
AVP1-2 marine gameplay probably inspired carmack for this decision.
Also if something new comes from quakecon in august due to nightdive, i feel that they will include the E3 demo as bonus as the Bird demon too.
>>716154528
Yes anon, it was made for CRT's
In fact put doom 3 under a LCD vs a CRT, one guy at /vr/ made tests, and shadows on the CRT screen as the lightning felt better, while on a LCD screen of that time there were some loss of quality issues.
>b-but you got filtered by murauders
Yeah they made me fall the fucking asleep with how much of a basic bitch of an enemy they were. So fucking hard waiting for the red glow so that I can SSG and then instamurk their faggot asses.
>>716156156
Doom 3 is so unpopular and hated it sold 3.5 million copies in a market much smaller than the current one. Dark Ages will likely never outsell it
I think vanilla old dooms are ass. I grew up with Half-Life, UT and Q3 and not having mouse look with those slow enemies in dooms feels boring. I do love Build game however but those have mouse look.
>>716138079
Dark Ages feels way more like Quake/Heretic that I wouldn't even put it here. Probably just somewhere in the background of the image doing its own thing.
>>716157693
I'm millennial and I was talking about vertical aim. I thought something like this would be obvious. Also looking down anti old Doom people is like saying you can't enjoy side scrollesr without playing some obscure old af Atari game.
>>716159164
using a source port like gzdoom has free aim enabled by default for a reason, theres basically no reason to not have it enabled and very few maps take advantage (as in screwing the player) of no free aim. legacy of rust does it quite frequently with walls of cacos so those guys knew what they were doing, but otherwise literally doesnt matter. just dont snipe imps from a thousand miles away
The moment I clipped through a floor and fell out of the level in Doom (2016) was the moment it "clicked" that John Carmack no longer has anything to do with the franchise, and it has been completely pajeet-ed.
I'm currently working on the last map of my megawad and its not going to be an Icon of Sin thing, yet I have problems coming up with any fun battles at this point. After so many goddamn maps i'm nearly burnt out.
>>716161769
nm is not a fun difficulty option, its for challenges and autism. permanently respawning enemies, get the fuck out of here. you can use fast monsters without nm
>>716162514 >D64D2, now that's an actual kino.
isn't that just d64 in doom 2? sounds like shit since d64 really had better atmosphere than it did levels and enemy encounters
>>716162834 >>716163443
I generally like retro shooters but dislike the sprite based enemies of very early shooters like Doom or Wolfenstein I guess.
My all time favorite is UT 2004 for example.
>>716163589
Non-BFG Doom 3 release could be absolutely amazing, Doom 3 is a game that really feels like it was made for VR but you can only play VR with the shitty BFG edition
But outside of VR why would anyone care lol
>>716164331
the advantage of enemies lacking depth is that you can have a lot of them on the screen, resulting in lower hp individual enemies which in turn is why 3D shooters tend to be noticeably more bullet-spongy than 2.5D ones despite having similar difficulty
>>716164370
Quake live sucks and isn't quake 3 Arena, is a censored shitshow made for clan arena autists at esreality forums who abhors quake 3 deathmatch unless it is their counter strike shit.
one of these fags being evil
