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Anonymous No.716153778 [Report] >>716153949 >>716154015 >>716154304 >>716154565 >>716154631 >>716155492 >>716155817 >>716155950 >>716155970 >>716156265 >>716156520 >>716156691 >>716156986 >>716157032 >>716157337 >>716159701 >>716159943 >>716161334 >>716163362 >>716164442 >>716165179 >>716167457 >>716173089
>black people
):<
>black people, Japan
:O
Anonymous No.716153949 [Report] >>716155176
>>716153778 (OP)
yeah, because the nipponese black man isn't constantly going "muh racism, muh wypipo"
saucy No.716154015 [Report] >>716155016 >>716155437
>>716153778 (OP)
I still think Sazh was a little too cool for JP audiences.
Anonymous No.716154304 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
Until some years ago I would say yes. Now, is just "ignore".
Anonymous No.716154565 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
Always has been. Always will be.
Anonymous No.716154631 [Report] >>716155340 >>716156168 >>716162270
>>716153778 (OP)
Barret was NEVER black. He's a tan okinawan.
Anonymous No.716155016 [Report] >>716155437 >>716158521 >>716160059 >>716163345 >>716173619
>>716154015
>make black comedic relief side character
>he's actually the most likeable ,grounded , and mature character in the game
Anonymous No.716155176 [Report] >>716159537 >>716163092
>>716153949
Most aren't like that, you're just racist and have a pass for things from your childhood before you were programmed
Anonymous No.716155340 [Report] >>716156972 >>716173089
>>716154631
Yes, the darkie who looks and talks like Mr. T somehow isn't black.
Anonymous No.716155364 [Report] >>716156576
He's Dominican
Anonymous No.716155437 [Report] >>716155714 >>716156195 >>716160207 >>716173619
>>716154015
>>716155016
>only good character in his game
JP just gets it right
Anonymous No.716155492 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
barret is MAH nigga, dont shit post with him
Anonymous No.716155587 [Report]
Weebs tend to enjoy everything about japan more than they do from the west. Youll never see a black character from the west being liked ever again.
saucy No.716155714 [Report]
>>716155437
He suffers from being too cool.

It's a common problem in Japanese games. You come up with an idea for a character, but you can't carry a whole game on the coolness of one hero.
Anonymous No.716155817 [Report] >>716170698
>>716153778 (OP)
Fucking yeah
Anonymous No.716155950 [Report] >>716157990
>>716153778 (OP)
Japan unironically writes black characters better than the West does half the time. They don't try to make them a walking PSA or force representation points-just actual characters. That's why dudes like Sazh and Barret hit harder than 90% of modern AAA diversity checkboxes.
Anonymous No.716155970 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
Barret is white on the inside
He took care of another man's child instead of running away from fatherhood
Anonymous No.716155989 [Report]
>hype nigga with killmonger haircut created by fat, balding genXers entirely for the sake of having a #badass character for the modern audience and looking like le progressive allies while doing so
):<
>black guy who's an actual character
:O
Anonymous No.716156168 [Report] >>716156318 >>716156852
>>716154631
>someone out there actually believes this
Anonymous No.716156195 [Report] >>716156551 >>716157470
>>716155437
Sazh is an ugly and boring joke character. Kill yourself.
Anonymous No.716156265 [Report] >>716156729
>>716153778 (OP)
What could be the reason why people don't like (((Western))) AAA game dev black characters? It must just be because they aren't Japanese, yep, that's the only reason I can think of.
Anonymous No.716156318 [Report] >>716169860 >>716170548
>>716156168
Anonymous No.716156520 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
ff7 barret is a fantastic character
the only problem with him is his backstory. it was set up to be really good, with his coal town's economy going to shit because of the reactor, but in the end they turned shinra into cartoon villains and had them slaughter the town when something broke at the plant down the road. with a little more thought, this could have been a 10/10 scenario.
Anonymous No.716156551 [Report]
>>716156195
The telltale sign of someone who doesn't actually play FF 13 and just jerks off to it.
Anonymous No.716156576 [Report]
>>716155364
>speak yelling
>is brutally honest
>dressed up like a retard
>like to listen to music at very high volume
>somehow has a white kid

It could be any Caribbean man
Anonymous No.716156691 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
he's Okinawan
Anonymous No.716156729 [Report] >>716156953
>>716156265
>posts incel fetishization of a character as evidence in this headcanon argument
lmao okay yeah that'll do it lmao
Anonymous No.716156852 [Report]
>>716156168
Believes what? The truth?
Anonymous No.716156953 [Report]
>>716156729
You jack off to that gif?
Anonymous No.716156972 [Report] >>716163197
>>716155340
They had to make him black in future iterations because the localization turned him black through rewriting his dialogues.
Anonymous No.716156986 [Report] >>716157320
>>716153778 (OP)
No, its black people [DEI]
People liked Cole Train and Sgt Johnson just fine before you faggots tried to invade our hobby and preach at us
Anonymous No.716157032 [Report] >>716157568
>>716153778 (OP)
He doesn't even look black on the right. Facial structure, nose, lips, etc..
Anonymous No.716157189 [Report] >>716157932 >>716175237
One random thing I have been thinking about. This isn't retarded idpol shit even if it includes sadly a bit of that. I'm a leftist so let's get that out of the way.
I think that one of the biggest problem in western vidya industry when it comes to desigining diverse casts, is the fear of making diverse girls "overly sexual". It's a problem overall of course with female characters, but black women especially suffers from it a fuckton. I understand the worry with more left-leaning devs and character designers to not make women to be seen as "objects of desire", but in all honesty I think making sexy characters that can be objectified is a good thing. I don't necessarily want to pull out the annoying "they are hypocrites because male characters are made sexy! Look at those muscles!" because that is funnily enough more appealing to gay men if anything, but the true part is more the charm/personality/voice of male chatacters that can be easily argued to be hella unrealistic standards.

If western devs made more sexier/cuter/appealing/actuallyfunny black female characters, they would be liked a fuckton and actually be good for general view on other skin colors etc.
Doesn't mean you have to make them with huge boobs in revealing clothing, but if you look at fightan games, they have fuckton of black characters people like.
Like everyone wanted to fuck Pharah from OW as well. And don't be afraid to go wild, imagine a cute black girl with attire and attitude of ZZZ's Nicole Demara. Like you would have white guys in line to try and find black findom gf at that point.

The fear of "sexualization" has killed fuckton of good character designs. I'm happy Japan still kinda does their own thing.
Nothing wrong with being respectful and "realistic", but there is nothing wrong with being bit lewd and especially nothing wrong with beautiful and sexy women and men.
Anonymous No.716157320 [Report]
>>716156986
This. Racism didn't even exist until obama became president.
Anonymous No.716157337 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
Because Barret admits he's wrong is what makes him cool.
He admits in part II that AVALANCHE's methods are too extreme.
Anonymous No.716157454 [Report]
Barret is awesome and cool.
Anonymous No.716157470 [Report] >>716157673
>>716156195
>he says posting fucking VANILLE
L
M
A
O
Anonymous No.716157568 [Report]
>>716157032
Damn, I didn't know we had a genetics genius with us. Because surely all blacks look the exact same, right?
Anonymous No.716157673 [Report]
>>716157470
Vanille is pure sexo tho, I dont know how they managed to make her so hot it actually transcends her annoying manic pixie girl schtick. She is like the better Rikku.
Anonymous No.716157932 [Report]
>>716157189
the problem with modern media is that being from x race just become the sole defined thing for that characters and sadly that tent to occur more with western devs that are too sacred to trying to do anything with them, it also doesn’t help that they crated the most ugly goblins they can come on with it just to pander certain people, for fuck sake I’m on a videogame, if I want to see ugly people I will go outside
Anonymous No.716157990 [Report]
>>716155950
>They don't try to make them a walking PSA or force representation points-just actual characters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udm6i6fe-DU
Anonymous No.716158521 [Report] >>716160610
>>716155016
>the "safe-horny" version of blacks
Back in the 90s, they weren't afraid of accurately portraying blacks as violent with low-anger inhibition. Even blacks respected that.
Anonymous No.716159537 [Report]
>>716155176
And you have the reading comprehension of a nigger. Try to read it again but sound out the words in your head and think about what they mean individually before putting them all together. Then think on that for a while too before you open your monkey mouth.
Anonymous No.716159701 [Report] >>716159839 >>716160017 >>716160218 >>716160919 >>716161482 >>716161870 >>716162571 >>716163192 >>716164012 >>716165384 >>716172437
>>716153778 (OP)
Reminder Barret fucked Tifa
Anonymous No.716159839 [Report] >>716160696
>>716159701
Good.

cloud belongs to sephiroth
Anonymous No.716159943 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
Notice, he is actually a well written character.
Anonymous No.716160017 [Report]
>>716159701
who didn't?
Anonymous No.716160059 [Report]
>>716155016
>likeable
hell no
him and his son can fuck right off
Anonymous No.716160207 [Report]
>>716155437
>only
He is good, but Vanille and Fang are up there too.
Anonymous No.716160218 [Report]
>>716159701
Barret wouldn't do that. He's busy taking care of Dyne's daughter and running Avalanche operations. And making sure Cloud's butthole is filled with his BBC.
saucy No.716160610 [Report]
>>716158521
Sazh was literally baby's daddy gone viral. He became a known terrorist, guns blazing on HD monitors all throughout Cocoon. As far as Pulse l'Cie and Fal'Cie are concerned, he was a violent minority.
Anonymous No.716160696 [Report]
>>716159839
Based
Anonymous No.716160919 [Report]
>>716159701
the whole town fucked her doe
Anonymous No.716161334 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
Is Barret left handed?
Anonymous No.716161482 [Report]
>>716159701
And Cloud watched.
Anonymous No.716161870 [Report] >>716162191
>>716159701
No one fucked Tifa except for me
saucy No.716162191 [Report] >>716162252
>>716161870
People who have sex with Tifa have been reported to suffer from serious oneitis.
Anonymous No.716162252 [Report] >>716162385
>>716162191
I don't remember reporting that!
Anonymous No.716162270 [Report]
>>716154631
(You)
saucy No.716162385 [Report]
>>716162252
Well doctor's reports are usually confidential.
Anonymous No.716162571 [Report] >>716164338
>>716159701
The truth is that Barret reads bedtime stories to Marlene while Tifa gets fucked silly by Cloud in the next room.
Anonymous No.716163092 [Report] >>716175357
>>716155176
>you're just racist
It is cute that you think that is an insult.
Anonymous No.716163192 [Report]
>>716159701
>Guy rode the town bicycle
Anonymous No.716163197 [Report] >>716163904
>>716156972
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
Anonymous No.716163345 [Report] >>716165206
>>716155016
I still don't know how they managed to make the most absolutely fucking insufferable cast in that game. Like it's genuinely impressive how terrible they were.
Anonymous No.716163362 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
Funny, considering the leftoids are split on Barret, with half of them liking him and the other half claiming he's too much a minstrel caricature of the scary black man.
Reminder that these people will never be pleased.
Anonymous No.716163904 [Report] >>716164163
>>716163197
There's no Africa or Okinawa in the world of FF7, so technically the answer is he's neither. I googled バレット・ウォーレス 沖縄 and got basically 0 hits so I don't think the Japanese perceive him as an Okinawan.
Anonymous No.716164012 [Report]
>>716159701
So what? So did Emilio, Johnny, Barret (again), and Don Corneo.
Anonymous No.716164163 [Report]
>>716163904
Yeah I'm not sure where this okinawan meme came from. It's very obvious that he's meant to be a stereotypical tough black dude considering most of the same people also worked on Advent Children and I'm pretty sure okinawans don't typically have cornrows.
Anonymous No.716164338 [Report] >>716164934
>>716162571
*Johnny
ftfy
Anonymous No.716164442 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
No problem with Black people
Anonymous No.716164817 [Report]
He's white coded tho
Anonymous No.716164934 [Report]
>>716164338
You are not fooling anyone, Johnny.
Anonymous No.716165179 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
Just like people, if they're cool or well written I'll like them regardless of what they are and where they came from.
Anonymous No.716165206 [Report] >>716165921
>>716163345
You're full of shit and you definitely did not complete this game

Keep in mind this harsh reality before you type a reply: the majority of people you know in real life are insufferable
Anonymous No.716165384 [Report]
>>716159701
We all know this. She's the type of woman who lies to Cloud that she's drinking "alcohol" from her glass when we know that yellow is anything but alcohol.
In fact, she would drink it straight from the tap.
Anonymous No.716165921 [Report]
>>716165206
That was always a complaint with 13 ,you faggot.
Everyone called all the characters insufferable and annoying.
Anonymous No.716166797 [Report]
>favorite character in the entire 13 arc is Lumina
>barely any r34 of her
suffering never ends
Anonymous No.716167457 [Report] >>716169160
>>716153778 (OP)
Both are equally bad
Anonymous No.716169160 [Report]
>>716167457
Not really.
Moose !!Tm8/4MnbTW4 No.716169860 [Report] >>716169936
>>716156318
saucy No.716169936 [Report]
>>716169860
This looks like him though.
Anonymous No.716170548 [Report]
>>716156318
Reminds me of how the ff7 characters have looked sonewhat chinky since advent children
Anonymous No.716170698 [Report] >>716172068 >>716173991 >>716174180
>>716155817
You know the rules. You have to post it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azVh3H_EP6E
Anonymous No.716172068 [Report]
>>716170698
>Start stage
>See helicopter
>Assume I'm going to be on it
>Nope I'm running on the helicopter blade
Kino game.
Anonymous No.716172437 [Report]
>>716159701
False, Red is the one who did
Anonymous No.716173089 [Report]
>>716153778 (OP)
You know he's actually not black in the original, he was retconned by loooocalizers to talk in niggerish
>>716155340
He does not speak that way in Japanese

Also Tifa was white. Don't reply to me if you're a fucking yellow fever subhumanoid unable to tell that she was obviously white in the original and has been retconned in order to sell more product in Japan.
Anonymous No.716173195 [Report]
Why does she run like that?
Anonymous No.716173619 [Report]
>>716155016
>>716155437
>make game/trilogy with a mostly female party, protagonist and main focus character included
>best character is still the man
Many such cases.
Anonymous No.716173698 [Report]
What are other examples of wester made characters that was generally acceptable? The first one that came up in my mind was Jax
Anonymous No.716173991 [Report]
>>716170698
We need to go back to the rule of cool. Fuck making sense, just escalate shit because it's>fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0M3hq4-hIM
Anonymous No.716174180 [Report]
>>716170698
Why did the world become so gay?
Anonymous No.716175237 [Report] >>716177212
>>716157189
Absolutely based and nuanced pill. I’m on the left as well and love sexy women and I think black women get the short end of the stick. Asian regions love idealized versions of their people which is why Final Fantasy/Stellar Blade and other games from Kor/China/JP feature impossibly attractive characters. Because there’s no black people high up in game development in the west on top of the corporate bureaucracy we get fuck all. Never mind that instagram is a just an app click away that features nothing but idealized black women with insane curves and large breasts in tight outfits. Naw fuck that just face scan Debrah Wilson for a 50 thousandth time or get a white dev to google black features and then proceed to make the must unappealing freak that practically comes off as racist.
Anonymous No.716175357 [Report]
>>716163092
>heh, sure am
nobody was trying to use racist as an insult genius
it's just to flag that you're not of rational mind and your opinions can be disregarded
it's like being religious
Anonymous No.716177212 [Report] >>716178170
>>716175237
>Because there’s no black people high up in game development in the west on top of the corporate bureaucracy we get fuck all
This is honestly one of the biggest !!! the more you think about it. The heads of the studios are always white or some small mixture in USA but still white or very white-looking. It is nice that the people there are sympathetic for wanting to be "fair and safe", but is it much better to swap from white man who gives no thought to it to a white woman who has some kind of savior complex and barely takes any feedback from black communities? Like I hate that just writing that gives kneejerk reaction to many and gets me accused of being things I'm not. I watch lots of political Youtubers and some black ones, F.D Signifier is very eye opening and it really makes me think even when I don't necessarily share all of his views. But dude got real points.
Anyway, as you said Instagram and TikTok are full of pretty/cute/sexy black women. It is kinda sad that there are lots of pretty white women in vidya as well as "realistic" ones, lots of pretty asian women in vidya as well as "realistic" ones, but only "realistic" black women.
If we had black equilavent of Lara Croft, and on male side something like Cloud, most of the screeching from /v/ would die. Of course the drooling poltards would keep drooling but majority of people just don't get to see much cool black chatacters.
Like honestly watch some black cosplayers or black anime stuff where black fans redraw some anime chars as black. Like black vidya/anime fans want cool/cute/hot designs for black characters too. But for longest time there have just been few Marvel chatacters, and while Spider-Man and Miles Morales has been around for a looong time, it ain't cutting it.
Of course as a white guy I'm no authority in black character design or what is "good". Just let people design characters without being restricted by idpol.

If any black anon is reading this, hang in there. Love ya.
Anonymous No.716178170 [Report]
>>716177212
Based white anon. I’m black but some of my favorite black character designs are mostly from fighting games. I hope maybe one day and can change the culture or at least be apart of that change by telling devs it’s okay to make hot idealistic black men and women. I don’t think it’s too much to ask. Have a good day my lefty friend.