Hey, gachahaters
Can you name a single negative trait of gacha that doesnt also apply to "real games" these days?

He's stuck in a boring game

no gameplay
>god of war doesnt have gamep-
thats not a real game

Whataboutism is not an argument.

its microtransactions on steroids and i can stare at the girls without buying the game
>real games have mic...
i dont play any of those

>>716155648 (OP)
No sex.

>>716155805
Go ahead and post a real argument then, dumb gachahater.

>>716155648 (OP)
I play gacha and I can still name the biggest problem. It's a problem that existed since League of Legends.
>you don't have access to every character

Jumping.

Real games can be played offline
Real games don't have daily quests
Real games don't gate gameplay behind luck

Reason to play other than FOMO and completing dailies.

>>716155648 (OP)
>coomer whale defends his precious anime slop.

>>716155648 (OP)
there are better games to play
no, I never played gacha
your genre just isn't appealing to people with taste. it's just strikes people that have some degree of experience with culture as a genre for effortless, low-bar, unhappy men that never tried to read/watch/play a higher class piece.

>>716155648 (OP)
Is this where we name one of the many negative traits of gachas and you pick out a singular non-gacha that does something similar and celebrate it as a big gotcha? No thanks bro.

>>716155648 (OP)
gacha a-logs are not mentally well

>>716155648 (OP)
Gacha gameplay is boring. Every single time. Being boring is the worst trait a game can have.

>>716156392
>Being boring is the worst trait a game can have.

What about a person? Is it fine if it's a person?

>>716156289
>talking about games you never play
>posting about games you never play
you sound very smart.

>>716156480
Don't worry, Anon. Just because you are boring doesn't mean we don't love you.

>entire genre is called "gacha" aka "got-ya" meaning to pull a fast one, presumabily on the consumer
>literally mock the paypig retards in the very name of the entire genre of games
>they not only use the title, but defend it in their free time
maybe the jews are right about the goyim....

>>716156541
Nice try, but I was trying to say everyone on this board is boring and stupid. I'm filtering this thread now. The two digit IQ ethnics flooded the thread because I filtered everything else. You sub-humans can look after I've filtered this one. No second thread open.

>>716156620
Now say it without crying.

>>716155821
it would be easy to think that, but it is somehow less predatory than typical EA/Ubisoft battle pass micro transaction filled shit that you still have to pay full price for the right to be squeezed for every last dime.

while not all gatcha games are reasonable usually the ones most people play are good despite the monetization not because of it.

>>716156561
it's named after gashapon vending machines.

>>716155648 (OP)
before any of that can't I just argue on the fact that the other game developers wouldn't have followed it had gacha not been so successful with it?

>>716156620
you sound very mad.

>>716156510
thank you

>>716156561
dumbass

>>716155648 (OP)
>Tu quoque
Smartest gacha player right here

>>716155648 (OP)
Gachas are sexy. Regular games are not.

>>716155648 (OP)
I have never played a Gacha that has fun gameplay. They feel like a chore to play and require you to do you "dailies" (chores) to effectively play without spending money

>>716156669
i like my version better
a very nice ching chong to you mr nihao

>>716155648 (OP)
Easy. It doesn't cater to my niche fetish simple as

>another gachaniggers are retarded episode

>>716155648 (OP)
Real games cost money, if the game has multiplayer it'll filter out the truly subhuman with the price tag

>>716155648 (OP)
being a genre for retarded niggerfaggot slaves

>>716157208
This
If someone makes a bimbo gacha, I will play it.

>>716155648 (OP)
i'm not paying money for skins that i can't trade

>>716157663
but enough about fighting games

>>716155648 (OP)
They're boring
If it's an action game you just mash one button
If it's a turn based game then you just press auto and go jerk off

>>716155648 (OP)
All meaningful unlocks being behind rolling with a freemium/limited currency.

>>716155648 (OP)
Story content locked behind a slot machine. Not going to waste hours of my life to maybe get to play all of the parts of a game I want to play.

>>716158269
>wuwa
doesnt count

>>716155785
If gow is not a real game, then why does it have journalism difficulty? You can’t explain that!

>>716158374
How so, those Hoyoverse or whatever games seem to have more gameplay than the ones where you just autobattle/skip through dailies, since you're controlling a character in the open world.

>>716155648 (OP)
Microtransactions?
>b-but what about AAAslop 5000?!?!?
Not a "real game", at least for people with good tastes

>>716155648 (OP)
>can't put down your controller because fomo
>insane powercrept
>they basically forced you to do free labors for in-game currency
>paywalled characters with shitty rates
>money stolen if your beloved """game""" decided to EOS
GGEZ

>>716155805
It is an argument, it's just a poor one used primarily by commies to distract how bad their countries are.

>>716155648 (OP)
They are grindy in the bad way and aren't fun.

>>716155648 (OP)
I prefer real casinos

>>716159980
Based Unochad.

>>716155648 (OP)
Gameplay is so shit that every player is always begging the devs for a fast forward, auto mode, or a battle skip feature.

pay2win lootbox gambling shit
>but modern AAA slop also has that
i don't play them, either

>>716160373
I remember someone asking why lootboxes aren't as criticized as gachas.
They absolutely were, probably more than gachas are.

>>716155648 (OP)
"my shitty thing can't be shitty because other things are also shitty!!!" kill yourself, retard

>>716155648 (OP)
While I dislike gacha, I respect its place in the industry, but when the name of the entire genre is LITERALLY "gambling machine" that should tell you why people detest it. Aside from that, every gacha I've played has a severe lack of immersion. Nearly every gacha game is designed to be turned on and off in a matter of minutes. This is only good design if the goal is to keep players attached to the game against their will (dailies, cooldowns, etc.) which actively detracts from the experience. No one wants to do chores for fun (the stardew/minecraft/animal crossing arguments don't work because their gameplay is designed around the soothing ambience and simple tasks. Gacha games either have you tap a button or hit an arbitrary number goal for generic, unexciting resources with minimal possible engagement with the game's systems.) Many gacha (since they're mobile games) discourage you from even playing the game, timegating you with stamina bars or some other daily-refreshing resource that allows you to progress. Seriously...THE GAME DOES NOT WANT YOU TO PLAY IT...that's a ridiculous philosophy, and not one I want to invest any time or thought into (funny how that works with the previous point). And the last thing I'll criticize for now is that the overall aesthetic experience of gacha games is bland and dreary. Besides certain standouts like Genshin, Limbus, and L&D, there's just no vibes...it's weak and uninviting and blends in with every other gacha it's copying/competing with. A person who has never masturbated to the characters would never be able to tell that characters from Arknights, Zenless, and Wuthering Waves are from different games. They look IDENTICAL. And they all have a same-y looking world, too. The truth is that the games themselves are NEVER what people like, NEVER EVER, because they're not meant to be enjoyed. It's filler content in between rolling for units, that's why each gacha's general threads are just wifeposting ERP over and over

>>716155648 (OP)
I don't find gambling entertaining because it's predatory.

>>716155648 (OP)
i like some gacha games, the most obvious 2 answers are:
>content drip
>powercreep
Most gachas end up becoming or go through periods where they are very stale. You can pick up some momentum wanting to progress the story or go to the next zone, but you're trapped for 6mo-1yr with nothing really going on because they have to push updates on a specific release schedule that coincides with new banners.

And yea, powercreep of new units is a big one that doesnt really happen nearly as often with non-gacha games. The business model revolves around making sure you need to roll for newer units or you are much less likely to spend. Some games will go back and fix older units or rerelease them in a new form to get them up to par, but many dont.

Gacha is in a weird place. For it to be a good game, i needs to have a good combination of gameplay, story, and mechanics - but when you make a good game its pretty much never made better (and usually made worse) by the fact its a gacha. We're in this weird point in time where gachas are realizing they kind of have to be good games in order to compete because its not just a gimped mobile sector anymore/phones can play real games now - so you end up getting games that could ba really amazing standalone but and up fizzling out and overstaying their welcome because of gacha mechanics.

>>716155648 (OP)
The games I play dont have predatory casino mechanics.
No amount of muh other game did it will change that fact that you are adjacent and just as much the problem as AAA slop is.
You faggots gave up waiting for any change to take place in the industry refused to spearheaded any of it out of lack of will or skill and have simply bended over to accept bad practices because you can a see a censored animu titty. porn and hentai are free if you aren't a turbo faggot so I have less respect for you because you are even more of a sellout than the triple AAA faggots who are too retarded to stop supporting this stuff.

>>716155648 (OP)
I don't need to pay $60 for a chance to unlock an unit.

>>716155648 (OP)
The entire appeal is gambling for fake pussy. Pathetic.

>>716155648 (OP)
Alright. It has no logical conclusion. Majority of games have an ending that marks the finish line, concluding the experience. There are, of course, endless games like, say, tetris, but generally the point of those is to last as long as possible, usually with a constantly increasing difficulty.
Gachas have none of those. The grind and the story just keeps going until the game is deemed not profitable enough, with an abrupt finale and a fuck you to the player.

>>716155648 (OP)
Sure.
If I want to get the most out of Gacha, I have to play on the game's timetable rather then my own.
If I want to get the most out of it, I have to play when there are events, rather then just going at my own pace.
If I want to have enough supplies to do things, I have to play almost every single day instead of just when I feel like.
I also won't ever be able to unlock all of the content unless I sink an ungodly amount of time into it or spent a shitload of money. Skill does not matter.
Gacha is shit because as a game it makes you as slave to it, rather then the other way around. It plays you.
I'll be damned if I ever let anyone or anything dictate how I spend my time.

>>716155648 (OP)
What eastern european shithole are you from, I'm interested in callng you a slur

>>716167641
I support this orator.

>>716155785
>he thinks the DEIslop movies are games
LOL

You will never be a real video game enthusiast. You will never be a "gamer". Your favorite genre originated from casual mobile slop and is second only to gambling in the degeneracy pool. You think spending real life money on literal images you could get from a five second web search are more precious than anything else in your empty life. You will never develop real skills like better genres would allow you to, and your reflexes and hand-eye coordination will devolve into near-uselessness because all you do is tap buttons all day long in hopes that anime girl #19232 says "I love you", something that no actual woman will ever tell to your face and you very well know it. You pretend to be smug about your interests, but deep down you know you fucked up long ago and there is no turning back.