Thread 716164541

>mojang finally added shelves to minecraft
thoughts on this?

couldn't care less
i stopped playing around when they added the food/health mechanic
i tried picking it up again a couple of months ago and was bombarded with a clusterfuck of complexity of crafts and items and bullshit that wasn't explained or written anywhere and dropped it again

they look absolutely terrible, but that's to be expected by nu-mojang

>>716164541 (OP)
I have no idea why they still bother, besides the obvious notion of trying to keep their job.

Looks like shit

>>716164541 (OP)
>mojang
you mean microsoft? lol

>>716164541 (OP)
>thoughts on this?
Vintage Story did it better.

Why are they still bothering to update the game at all? Mods can do literally anything they can think of adding much better than them, and even the biggest normie knows how to mod the game, unless they're playing bedrock (and only actually retarded children play bedrock nowadays).

>>716164580
This is so unMinecraft-like it's unreal. It looks like something you'd see in a mod.

Kind of excited about the copper golems, to be honest. Those shelves look real stupid though, and copper gear is retarded.

so whats the point of item frames now

>>716165214
you use item frames if you want it to not look like shit

>>716164541 (OP)
thats pretty cool, even if not used as intended, you can decorate the ouside of buildings with it and its probably easy craftable

>>716164963
bitch please, no mod would look that shitty

>>716164541 (OP)
>watch the copper golem turn into a statue once it's fully oxidized
Jesus fucking christ that's annoying

>>716164580
that looks like shit lol

>>716164580
God that's bad. I've seen shelves done better a dozen times in mods by now.

>>716164963
>It looks like something you'd see in a mod.
anon modding actually takes time and most of them are good, dont ever compare modders to mojang workers

>>716164580
Why does it look terrible? Why not use actual shelves and have the items sit above it?

>its another "we finally made a thing and its worse than the mod version of it, but it will kill the mod support in future patches!" episode
i hate mojang so much its unreal

Next minecraft should use triangles instead of cubes

>>716164580
one one hand I've always wanted bookshelves for all types of wood, on the other this looks pretty bad. does it look the same when you books in them?

>>716165214
building your massive wall mounted world map of course.

>>716164913
Because it would mean having to develop a different game, which won't come close to the same success Minecraft had and risk their company getting shuttered.
So they pool what little talent they have to drip-feed content while putting on a big show so they can look busy and not get fired for doing nothing.
So basically, they're leeching off of Microsoft cause they're a one trick pony.

>>716166856
Furniture is bad because it stifles IMAGINATION!

>>716167198
i'll stifle you jeb, fucking retire you cunt

>>716166842
>does it look the same when you books in them?
Yes. They made a bookshelf with removable books in a recent update already.

>this is as close as we will get to a vertical slab
I hate this company with all my soul.

>>716167847
Vertical slabs stifle I M A G I N A T I O N!
Ignore the billion other redundant blocks we've added

>>716167198
Nobody cares anymore, every possible type of furniture that can be formed with the existing blocks has already been figured out. Just let people make their spaces look pretty at this point instead of using pressure plates for tabletops

>>716167936
I wonder what notch would say about furniture and vertical slabs

NEW DYE TEXTURES, I REPEAT NEW DYE TEXTURES

>>716167694
I know about that block but it only has that one variant and it doesn't even look like oak or any other type of wood. you'd think mojang be more considering towards autists considering how much they love the game

>>716164580
That's the most half-assed implementation of shelves i've ever seen

>>716164913
Minecraft is a "jobs for the boys" scheme. It exists to keep Jeb and his friends a steady stream of paycheques, without needing to actually do any work.

>>716168134
loooks like crap

do people even play vanilla anymore? aside from kids, I mean

>>716168134
>we put a square rhombus under the dye
>this took an entire year to make

>>716166208
>>716166629
>most of them are good
come on, now
just because mojang releases slop, that doesn't mean there aren't loads of godawful mods
have some standards

>>716164580
That looks awful.

is mojang ever going to make a different game?

>>716169964
They did, multiple even. They all flopped. Even the Minecraft spinoffs flopped.

>>716168756
Yes because the vast majority of players are on consoles and phones.

>>716164580
Just limit it to two items per shelf and it would be fine. This is so unbelievable stupid

>>716169964
This>>716170121 but also mostly of them failed because even if they look like Minecraft, they are not Minecraft, notch made something so unique that no one has able to top it

>>716168078
if I'd ever given a fuck about notch's aesthetic opinions, that would have ended after he bought an overpriced ugly mansion, with a wall of giant candy dispensers to turn his obesity into morbid obesity.

>>716164913
They really should stop updating it. Give the modders a definitive version to mod so we have to stop fucking around with backporting and shit

>>716170412
I thought people would get bored after like 5 days or so, since there's almost no content without mods

>>716164541 (OP)
VINTAGE STORY

>>716171159
Most people just build stuff.

none of the billions of sales goes to these completely garbage devs right? I'm all for hating corpos but this is one of those situations where I might prefer soulless suits to get the money.

>>716164580
Looks pretty lame, but it could be handy as a trap door replacement or for decoration.

>>716164541 (OP)
doesnt vintage story already have a better version of this feature?

>>716170121
I remember hearing Scrolls was good. No idea what it is, though.

Will this update add estradiol potions? Mojangs silence has been violence to our community.

>>716169112
Nobody is playing the awful mods so this point is moot

>game about exploration and adventure still doesn't have LOD
>shits itself in FPS if you turn the chunk renderer up
>some guy is independently making a mod to do distant LOD himself
>proving the concept can be done
>is BEGGING mojang to take the code and put it in for free
>they're still focusing on little pets and stupid shit like this
nah fuck this company

IGGER OCKEY

>>716167847
modding in a vertical slab would be pretty simple with something like neoforge

>need to give it a redstone signal to remove the ugly gaps
>3 slots so items look tiny and shitty
>can't even 10 items to swap hotbar + offhand

>He plays minecraft past 1.12.2
>not playing with Mods that do literally all nu-mojang has done while mogging them at it
ISHYGDDT

>>716164580
wow this looks like putrid shit

>>716167198
ALRIGHT JEB YOU AUTISTIC KIKE, LETS DO IT YOU WAY
ADD A BLOCK CALLED "UNPRESSURED PLATES THAT" DOESN'T CLICK WHEN YOU WALK NEXT TO IT IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ADD TABLES

>>716175387
Have mods backported ender pearls loading chunks they exist in yet?

>>716164541 (OP)
haven't played or cared about vanilla minecraft in probably 10 years

>>716164580
lmao, if you're into crafting autism in 2025 you're playing Vintage Story

>>716172186
it's like might and magic but your units and spells were cards in a deck
it was a collectible game rather than a roguelike, and I remember hearing that you would be able to trade your cards as steam inventory items but I guess nothing came of it

>>716164580
>this is the best a multi-billion dollar company could do

>>716164580
Why the fuck are they 3x1 instead of 2x2?

What do the developers actually do there daily? There is like 600 people working on the game and they update the game once a millennium then it's shit like this

>>716177213
Vintage Story is just Better Than Wolves but as an entire game.

Mojang is the most incompetent developer in the world. Even Ubisoft isn't as inept with technology as Mojang is.
Minecraft looks shit, runs like shit and people have fixed it for free in their free time with little effort. Every time Minecraft was ported by a different developer they did a better job in a few months than Mojang did for over a decade. I still remember the very early days when the game was obscure and known as a poorfag game because it ran on any toaster. The hastily put together ancient notch code was superior to the sloppest slop Mojang has been putting out since 1.0.

>>716164541 (OP)
Vintage story had this for years.

>>716176569
I dunno, probbably
There are at least a dozen mods with world anchor blocks that keep chunks loaded so just pick one.

>>716164580
I liked using shelves in modded and I think these look pretty decent. Maybe my standards are just low. It's also interesting that they decided to make them actual full blocks.

gotta be nice to work at mojang, knowing you're intentionally working slowly just so you can drag out the life of this game even longer

>>716164580
Amazing that they managed to make this look ugly in a game as hideous as minecraft

>>716173023
>moot
Who?

Can yo do elevators without mods in this game?

>>716164580
>Meanwhile in Vintage Story

>>716180124
yes but the redstone backend is 7000 blocks wide and the thing is less reliable than a chinese elevator on liveleak

>>716180542
it will take atleast a decade to the minecraft devs to make atleast half of this

>>716180124
soulsand can push you up infinitely

>>716164541 (OP)
Still no chairs then?

Alright, redpill me on Vintage Story
How autistically difficult it is?
Is it Factorio/Terraria levels of "git gud", or can I pick it up even if I fucking suck at survival games?

>>716180543
>>716180757
Damn, i wanted to build an Xboxhuge space elevator in the server i share with my friends, i guess the redstone autismo could work as decoration.

>>716180990
Create (works on version 1.16 and up) would be the mod you're looking for if you want a working elevator that isn't redstone autism intensive. Still needs /some/ redstone fiddling, but nowhere near as much and Create has other tools to make it easier.

Create is really just a great mod and I think a lot of its features should just be in vanilla at this point. Mojang can't even get basic QoL shit like inventory tweaks and TMI in the game though, so who am I kidding.

>>716180980
It's not difficult, things take time and progress is slow. People say it's tedious because of that, if you get bored easily or have little patience then this flavor of autism is probably not for you.

>>716180602
Compare 2015 MC to 2025 and at this pace they're at least two decades away.

>>716180124
You can actually by using both Slime and Honey blocks and it works pretty reliably, essentially creating a flying machine in a shaft.
The issue is that you need to run redstone through the whole height of the shaft to send signals up and down and there's a cap to how many blocks Slime/Honey can move.

>>716181427
I said I was on Xbox you STUPID NIGGER

>>716164580
can we get IC and gregtech into the game now?

>>716164580
god the copper textures in this game look like garbage, the annoying part is how the Create mod had nice looking copper but they decided to make it worse so it fits with vanilla

>>716181937
Then stop
Retard

>>716164580
AHAHAHAHAHA

>>716182008
>Gregtech
memepack

>>716181427
I don't own the server so modding is not possible, nonetheless, i do have a semicircle of 50 blocks of diameter to work with so it should be doable

>>716167936
This does make me wonder if Jeb even has a say in the development process anymore.
>>716167198
He is probably cucked by Agnes and the rest of nu-Mojang.

>>716181754
I'll give it a shot, the main issue is that this is survival mode and i have yet to see a singular slime in my playthrough, the platform is quite big though so i don't know how muchif it's even possible to move the platform in a coordinated way, i'll test in on creative mode.

is trash, it doesn't even fit the minecraft aesthetic

>>716183153
it makes for a good wall trim but as a shelf it doesn't look right. they are like barred windows. the items don't mesh well with the overall low resolution of the texture. it's not like the item frame where one item looks good on it. i think it needs a retexture into something to make it clash less with the higher pixel density of the items. I'm no artist but I would cut down on the details and simplify the texture.

>>716164580
3 billion dollar game btw

>>716183465
oh and i figured why it doesn't feel right. I think the items should be laid out in a 2x2 grid instead of three inlets side to side. or just 2 inlets side by side instead of 3.

>>716180990
If you just wanted to go up, you could try a player launcher using wind charges. I'm not sure what the max height is, but they go pretty high.

>>716164580
So it's just an item frame with 3 slots?

>>716168134
This shit reminds me of when a game has inventory item reskin mods and most of the time they just add extra elements not present in the original just for the sake of it.

>>716183760
Going up is no problem, i'm currently using a rail going in circles, this is just for flexing purposes

I don't know why diehard fans of Mojang keep using the "it's a sandbox" excuse to dismiss criticisms to suggest improving the progression in this game, when other sandbox games like Terraria, Factorio, Don't Starve and Valheim have more solid progression systems.

>>716164541 (OP)
ATTENTION! COPPER ARMOR AND TOOLS ARE USELESS!

Most players won't bother with glorified stone tools, but will skip straight to iron instead. Here is the solution:

>increase base stats of copper tools to higher than even iron
>durability and efficiency decrease as tools begin to oxidize
>if lowest oxidization level is achieved, copper tools will have worse stats than stone tools
>to stop the oxidization process, players will have to track down honeycombs, which aren't exactly easy to find in the early game
>this will make copper tools a perfect early game resource, as well as a mid-late game resource
>neither replacing stone or iron tools as a result

If Mojang don't add this, they are retarded.

>>716184495
>muh progression
play an RPG

>>716168134
>and we proudly present you our biggest update yet!

>>716184756
they didn't say that

>>716164541 (OP)
>an entire beta build just for TWO (2) objects
lmao

what happened to hytale anyway, didn't someone say they would buy it off riot?

>>716164580
This is just ugly item frames

>>716176412
Use carpets

>>716164580
I genuinely can't believe people defend Mojang

>>716170923
Tbf on notch for some reason those lolly canisters in the walls are in a fair few of those north LA mansions so it's likely he just liked the house and it came with it rather than actively looking for it as a thing. I'm always baffled when I see those in the floorplan idk ig it's probably just there for the pdiddy types

>>716184553
Mojang keeps trying to make the game a rpg though

mojang should be working with all modloaders to see what can they add to make it better, they will not make a proper mod API so at least make it easier to mod, like fuck

>>716177213
>>716180542
Based. What I like most about VS interior decoration is that almost every item has a function, so designing a streamlined and easily navigated workshop has a huge benefit to your gameplay, not only in aesthetics

>>716164541 (OP)

Vintage story is better

>>716164580
>refuse to add furniture to the game because muh imagination
>finally go through with it
>it's fucking ugly
Even the chest looks out of place
Honestly why not just hire the big modders and drag drop their content into the game at this point?

>>716164580
IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK LIKE A FUCKING SHELF

>>716164580
how the fuck are they so lazy man

>>716165214
if you want something that actually looks nice

>>716190157
I'm starting to think they didn't add furniture because they knew they'd make them look like shit

>>716164913
>Mods can do literally anything
~85% of players dont touch mods and engage with the built in mechanics only.
people are manually building item sorters instead of a mod that just does it for you.

>>716190157
Not even just that, even if you go out of your way using all of the tricks with trap doors and signs, etc, it eats up so much space that it fucks up proportions and makes it hard to do small builds.

Mojang is unironically lazier than Bethesda and Gamefreak

>>716164541 (OP)
What the fuck is Mojang even doing?
If add up all the content added from 1.0 to now, it would fill 1/3 the content of a mod made by an autist in 3 months.

Why the fuck has Microsoft allowed these Swedish fucks to slow roll content this much?

>>716164580
>shelves dont even match the wood theyre made from
>entire purpose of a shelf is either 3 item frames you can hot swap between or having quick inventory swaps
>but only for single items/stacks
>also the way you swap them from single to multiple is with redstone, meaning you need to either have a line of dust behind shelves or some other way to keep them powered constantly
how did they fuck this up so badly after making copper golems actually cool, good and interesting to use for both casuals and sickos alike?

>>716164580
You know they probably spent months designing what is essentially a bunch of item frames connected. Absolute dogshit.