Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 2

>>716191018 (OP)

>>716191032

This character model reminds of the later Fable games.

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>>716191163

what are the realistic chances this will be good?

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>>716191234
0.0

the original wasn't good at release, but it had the lifeline of attractive females to carry it until it got crash fixed. This 'game' has nothing but masculine dykes.

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>>716191342
>This 'game' has nothing but masculine dykes.
You shut your filthy heathen mouth.

Interesting how people were all up in arms over the name Phyre when it was blatantly obviously a reference to something your character saw when they woke up. Apparently the game is full of really obscure Seattle references, so I won't be surprised if the poster of the band "PHYRE" is from a real group nobody has ever heard of.

>>716191472
Her face looks like it was carved out of granite and she could headbutt and smash down a brick wall.

>>716191586
you're a retard

>>716191750
Nah, the people freaking out were obviously retards. It's the vampire equivalent of Ford Prefect. (A reference nobody in America understood because the Ford Prefect was a British car.)

>>716191018 (OP)
Is this game having a gog release? If so, I'll pirate it to try it out, but I certainly won't be paying for it.

>>716192250
They haven't removed the GOG page, so I assume all those old contracts are being upheld.

I can't help feeling that they can't decide what Fabien actually looks like in terms of facial structure. Maybe there are multiple base heads?

>>716191472
...yeah if that's the hottest vampire you got we have a problem

>>716192595
Sorry, I mean Phyre. For example, male Phyre seems to look different in some screens.

>>716192617
She's not a vampire, actually.

>>716191018 (OP)
Why have there been an influx of threads about this shit? Is there some fag that is still trying to shill it hoping that he can turn opinions around? Like VtMB is a fucking cult classic for a reason. How fucking delusional can you get?

Troika Games is making this right

>>716191234
If they didn't get Mitsoda back after the first version failed, very very few

>>716191234
>Years of development hell and a studio swap rightfully raise concerns about the game’s quality, but having played the most current form of Bloodlines 2, I’m both surprised and pleased to report that its rocky production cycle is more or less undetectable in the build I played. In fact, it feels so modern that you could tell someone it’s a new, standalone IP and it would be entirely believable. The Chinese Room, a studio known for its narrative skills, has also whipped up some fantastic combat.
>Like the original, Bloodlines 2 is a story-driven experience, with multiple factions and key figures you can make your friends or foes. Unlike the original, though, it’s a modern, fast-paced, first-person action game, taking full advantage of Vampire: The Masquerade’s wild line-up of vampire powers. The end result is somewhere between a sequel and a spiritual successor – it has nods to the original, with narrative connections and some overlapping gameplay abilities, but the story stands alone, and the combat is snappier and modernized.
>From what I’ve seen of the game so far, Bloodlines 2 certainly appears to honor consequences. Dialogue options and fashion choices affect characters’ perceptions of you. Your initial clan choice can drastically change your combat style and the way you approach encounters. And above all else, there’s the Masquerade: Phyre is essentially immortal, but if they break this one rule, they face a swift and merciless execution from their fellow Kindred. Consequences, good or bad, are the building blocks of stories, and Bloodlines 2 has consequences galore.
I think it's going to be a dark horse GOTY candidate, or at least a candidate for RPG of the year.

>>716192806
eugh

>>716192871
>Why have there been an influx of threads about this shit?
Because the game is 3 months from release, the studio has bought themselves out from Sumo Digital, and because journalists are being allowed to play hours of the game and write about it. People talk about games when there's things to talk about.

im kind off feel bad for devs of this game.
people are unironically waiting for this game release just to make fun of it

>>716193148
Mitsoda is a major reason the first version failed.

>>716193352
>im kind off feel bad for devs of this game
that makes one of you

>>716191234
all the cool grungey aeshetics of the original are going to be replaced with modern Sanfrancisco sensibilities

>>716193245
>Pandora Graves
>"I know that you are powerful. That you are artful. That you are dangerous. That you conceal a well of such pain, deep inside you. I share that pain too. I am so glad to be in your presence."
>A girl calling herself Pandora stumbles into a bar in Seattle in velvet and eyeshadow knowing too much about the Kindred and yet knowing very little about life. Who is she really, who’s been feeding her information, and does she realise how close she is to death? It’s unlikely - she seems to have a bad case of main character syndrome.

>>716193397
And here I thought it was because the gameplay looked like utter dogshit

>>716193352
What do you think people will make fun of?
>>716193474
The developers are British. That's why the Hardsuit version was like the real Seattle while this version is a fantastical, exaggerated version of Seattle.

>>716193654
Mitsoda was the game's director. Everything wrong with the game was ultimately his responsibility. That's why he got thrown under the bus when shit hit the fan.

its easy. use unreal engine 5, slashslop, shootslop, add magic and skills. done

>Clothing also affects your interactions on the streets and in the story – characters will treat you differently if you’re wearing something seductive or scary, so it’s functional fashion as well. In one instance, I approached a woman on the street to seduce her into an alley, but it turns out the woman was a sex worker, and Phyre was wearing provocative enough clothing that the stranger assumed I was a competitor moving in on her turf.
>Characters in the campaign will treat you differently as well, either approving or making fun of your fashion choices based on their preferences. In general, it’s clear that you’d need to walk a fine line to stay on every character’s good side, as they can be set off if you say the wrong thing in the dialogue tree.
>Even though you control what they say in a conversation, Phyre has a clear, strong personality that makes each dialogue option feel natural, whether it’s aggressive or affectionate. It’s not just picking “the mean option” or “the nice option.” It’s usually two equally viable things for Phyre to say. It’s far from the blank slate protagonist I’m used to in a game like this – Phyre is a complete character. According to Thomas, that’s by design.
>“I think one of the touch points, one of the closest, is probably Commander Shepard,” Thomas says. “But we wanted to very much play with story and the legends of a particular character. And the stories that everybody in a city such as Seattle may have heard of this figure? Some of those could be true, and some of those could be false.” He goes on to explain that “there is a legend, this character called The Nomad, but like any legend, it’s fuzzy, and it goes in several different directions, and it’s up to the player to kind of solidify that legend.”

>>716194148
>It’s true that in many conversations, Phyre’s reputation as The Nomad precedes them. They only go by Phyre in the first place because the first thing they see after waking up is a poster for a band with the same name. In the original Bloodlines, you play as a vampire right when they turn, so The Nomad’s status as an elder vampire is a new direction for the series, and this social identity is a prime example of it. The Elder status is also emphasized by her relationship to Fabien, who is much younger and enthusiastic by comparison.
>“It actually took us quite a bit of time to land that,” Thomas says of Fabien’s personality. “There was always a character in Phyre’s head. The character mutated as the story changed.” Thomas goes on to explain that early versions of Fabien were too similar to Phyre, which made their relationship uninteresting. Eventually, it clicked that Fabien should be a Malkavian, a psychic clan of vampires others consider deranged, which explains why his voice was in Phyre’s head.
>While early versions had him as a “jaded, Chinatown-style detective,” Thomas says the character clicked once they realized “Fabian is delighted in the world. He finds the world fascinating. He’s that one detective who had a conspiracy theory that there’s vampires and things in the world, and he was proved right.” Fabien also talks exactly like the cheesiest version of a noir detective – think Spider-Man Noir from Into the Spider-Verse – which balances Phyre’s dry, to-the-point style of conversation they picked up when they were turned 400 years ago. It adds a sense of lighthearted humor to a game that is otherwise dark and serious.

I don't care about Bloodlines 2 since it's gonna be shit, but I'm surprised Game Informer is still alive

>>716194368
newspapers and magazines get constant government subsidies and bailouts. So does IGN

>>716194148
It's gonna be the Mass Effect 2 of Bloodlines games. Glowing reviews, glowing sales, controversial because it eroded RPG design in favor of cinematic narrative and character "romance" arcs.

>>716194368
Game Informer was shut down, then they got bailed out. I think it's good they exist and are, to some degree financially independent through subscriptions. Relying entirely on ads really fucked up most journalism.

>>716193197
I wanna [spoil]have passionate lesbian sex with[/spoiler] the Tremere.

No one, not a single fucking person wanted "Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines 2"

They wanted "The next Vampire Masquerade game after Bloodlines that follows in it's footsteps and takes it further/improves with modern quality".

No one wanted literally "Bloodlines 2". If anyone thought that's what people wanted they completely fucked up. We wanted a game that was it's successor. We wanted Demon's Souls > Dark Souls, not Dark Souls 2.

The fact that they then made "Bloodlines 2" have absolutely nothing in common with the original game, not engine, not tech, not setting or sensibilities, not fucking gameplay or systems or anything, just what the fuck.

This horrorshow they're making would do better if it wasn't called Bloodlines 2 and wasn't put in comparison to it.

Whoever signed off on starting this project from the outset with the literal name "Bloodlines 2" royally fucked up beyond measure.

Valve should've bought the rights and made it a Source 2 game and hired the original troika devs to work on.

>>716193620
Isn't, I'm guessing 38, a little old to to be saying shit like that?

>>716194458
It won't. Fans are too cautious.
>But normalfags!
Without fans getting the hype ball rolling, normalfags won't get caught up in it. It's a niche game and it won't have a massive amount of advertising either.

>>716194148
>In one instance, I approached a woman on the street to seduce her into an alley, but it turns out the woman was a sex worker, and Phyre was wearing provocative enough clothing that the stranger assumed I was a competitor moving in on her turf

>>716191472
>this is wod now
is she a nun or something lmao

>>716194783
>tranny games journalist immediately dresses their character like a hooker
every such case

Is Fabien the narrator of the Betting Man trailer? Or is it someone else?

>>716191234
Zero retard. Every single one of these threads is paid marketing. Read these fucking posts. It couldn't be more obvious.

Which clans are available?

>>716191018 (OP)
Do shills have some kind of qualification requirement? Do the ones who shill AAA trash look down on the fuckers who promote noname stuff? How hard do you have to fail at life to shill something like this? don't you think it's better to just kill yourself at this point?

Phyre is such a stupid goddamn name and the fact that it's all fully voiced and you're stuck with SNARK and that face kills it.

>>716191018 (OP)
>cult classic gets another chance at life
>"yeah we played it we think it's kind of shit"

>>716191234
Zero
The current edition of VtM is a fake game that sucks and this will be fake as well

>>716194821
She's a human that knows way too much about vampires because someone has been feeding her information. She is completely oblivious to the fact that she could get murdered at any moment if she keeps this up.

I wouldn't be surprised if she's a character you can take pity on and save from the court assassins. Maybe she can be a ghoul or something, who knows. They've kept the actual plot under pretty tight wraps I have to say.

>>716191032
>the game was famously ugly
motherfucker I'm jerking my shit to this 21 years later

>>716195520
See >>716191163

>>716194865
First people complain about a lack of sexy outfits. Then they complain about the implied presence of sexy outfits.

>>716196054
explain fake

>>716195882
>Phyre is such a stupid goddamn name
Isn't that sort the point. As the other anon noted, it's a Ford Prefect situation. They wake up, see a poster of a rock band called Phyre, and adopt the name.

when ever are we gonna get this type of characters?

>>716195515
>zero retard
a what now?

>>716196695
I tried playing War Games, made it to the second hub. It's total conversion! Sounds good right? It's not.

@716196824
I agree, fellow 4channeler! Everyone who made fun of the name Phyre must feel really silly now, haha
Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines 2 looks spectacular!

>>716196695
Graphically, VTMB was pretty dated even for 2004. A lot of the character models look kinda hideous. People just focus on the sexy ones.

>>716196792
Not real. There are no rules. It's a loose collection of vague suggestions on how to roll dice if you want, zero instructions on how to actually run the game. And then a ton of shitty lore about how vampires are forever locked into the form they were in when they were created, unless you're trans, and then you can switch whenever you want

sick and tired of these shiteposts

>>716196825
They're too pussy to make him a racist, but Benny in Bloodlines 2 is running around killing thinbloods for kicks. >>716191220

>>716196979
Graphically dated =/= ugly

>>716194246
My asian vampire waifu can't be this sadistic.

>>716191018 (OP)
This MC is so fucking repulsive.

I'm tired of the drip feeding of information. Reopen the fucking preorders, release the gameplay deep dive videos for fuck's sake.

>>716197317
here is ur gameplay bro

>>716196742
Only 4? Damn. Well at least Tremere is in, that is what I played in bloodlines.

>>716197386
This was five months ago, and they've evidently been in a scramble to polish the game, which is why they pushed it back half a year.

@716197386
Yes? This looks excellent! Look at how realistically the NPCs react to you feeding indiscriminately. The original Bloodlines could never hope to achieve this.

Imma sleep, hopefully this thread will stay up so I can come back and see how bad the game is.

>>716196979
It was a mixed bag. It has stellar dialogue scenes because it was one of the very first games to use FaceRig, but a lot of character models and animations were super scuffed.

>>716191234
Had there been a single game stuck in development hell for years that was good?

>>716193352
>people are unironically waiting for this game release just to make fun of it
new /v/ is like this with every game pretty much, Tortanic ruined this board

>>716191018 (OP)
They've been working on this rpg for 20 years? What are they even doing?

>>716197748
Yeah. 100 percent. Us TORtanic enthusiasts are eating good these days. Last year was simply marvelous.

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>>716197301
Here's where it gets weird. If you look at those pieces of art in the article, they're clearly of the older Phyre design. You can tell this because the Tremere coat doesn't have the red trim on it, and it's cut differently. The bottom row of images here are the newer clan cards with the newer designs. You'll notice that Phyre has a different face in the newer cards. (And for those who are face blind, it's a mixture of male and female Phyre on these cards.)

>>716191018 (OP)
Realistically, is there any hope this will be good?

>>716197724
Doom 2016.

>>716196979
Some of the pedestrians look cobbled together but most of the main characters were crafted well and their range of expression still impresses me.

HOLY FUCKING KINO

>>716197724
Doom 2016
Fortnite
Metroid Dread
Granblue Fantasy Relink
Almost every Atlus game post Persona 4, but especially Persona 5, Metaphor and SMT IV/V
Uma Musume (for a mobile game)

>>716197912
Well, I guess.
Though tbf they did revamp the game from Doom 4 to DOOM.
I'd have a lot more faith in this game if it stopped being VtMB2, because keeping the title screams desperation to me.

>After waking up in an abandoned building, she immediately feeds on the nearest security guard and notices that her powers have waned significantly. While she still has superhuman strength, telekinesis, and the ability to glide through the air, the rest of the game is spent unlocking her other abilities. These other powers are tied to your clan, but you don’t pick that until a little later, instead spending the game’s opening becoming comfortable with the basics.
>As I learn from the game and my various conversations with Carl, Vampire: The Masquerade is a world with many proper nouns and specific terms relating to the lore of vampires (which are also known as Kindred). Thankfully, from what we’ve seen so far, The Chinese Room does a good job of gradually explaining the world to new players. For example, as Phyre searches for a way out of the building, police cars roll up, and Fabien reminds her to abide by the Masquerade – if the cops find her covered in blood, surrounded by corpses with bite marks on their necks, they’ll figure out she’s a vampire, which is the worst crime she could commit.
>After reaching the roof of the abandoned building and seeing the game’s title displayed across the backdrop of the nighttime Seattle skyline, Fabien guides Phyre to an abandoned apartment nearby and debriefs her on the state of the world. Fabien has lost his memory from recent days, but he’s been a vampire for the whole 100 years Phyre was in torpor, so he’s able to bring her up to speed on the Kindred politics of the city, how recent Young Adult media has changed how the world perceives them, and new threats to their kind. Fabien specifically mentions that guns are much more dangerous than they were 100 years ago. Phyre, new to the country, asks if there are a lot of guns in America. Fabien laughs.

>>716198053
I only know 2 of those

>>716198119
>While she still has superhuman strength, telekinesis, and the ability to glide through the air
Bro, why even bother with the rest of the powers.
It's like the blink powers in Dishonored for a stealth playthrough. I already have all I need.

>>716197724
Most publishers try to hide how much games are in development hell because it's bad for PR. There are games that get rebooted multiple times and/or cancelled without ever being announced officially. Sometimes people think that a game was in development for a few years, but it was actually in dev for many years and kept getting rebooted or cancelled and uncancelled. The long development cycles of AAA games have made this SO much worse, though.

>>716198053
>Granblue Fantasy Relink
Don't think so

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>>716191472
Are these from the Mongrel or Transmere houses?

>>716197582
Bro, problem is this studios has never released anything with actual gameplay. They've only done walking sims.

>>716191018 (OP)
The sad and most embarrassing thing is after all this time, the sequel will somehow be worse and less polished than the original (which isn't anywhere close to being finished).

>>716198512
>Bro, problem is this studios has never released anything with actual gameplay.
The same is true of Troika. They'd only made turn based stuff. They had no clue what they were doing making an FPS.

>>716198615
Game Informer are arguing that the troubled development cycle is undetectable, so I don't think it'll be less polished. I think it's going to extremely slick.

>>716198672
Yes. And it showed with Bloodlines. Difference is Bloodlines 2 is releasing 20+ years later onto a very different gaming scene.

>>716197819
probably just have stuff mixed all up in the press kit, or maybe it's the. magazine using old assets they got previously

>>716198787
Most likely, but you'd think Paradox would be a bit more hands-on because it's obvious they updated Phyre in some of the artwork because people didn't care for the haircut in particular.

Damsel's hairy pussy

>>716191163
>Malcavian isn't playable in the game
>Nosferatu isn't playable in the game
>Gangrel isn't playable in the game
>Toreador isn't playable in the game
So they are sticking with the 'safe horny' vampires then? Hard pass.

>>716198285
Because you can make people explode and turn your blood into knives that you fire at high speed.

>>716198747
Game Informer also kept saying Veilguard was gonna be the best Dragon Age ever.

>>716199390
Funny you should say that because Veilguard was EXTREMELY polished. One of the least buggy AAA games ever released.

>>716198747
I think that's possible, but only because there will be very little to polish. It still kind of seems like you can't even pick up a gun and shoot it without using the telekinesis ability.

>>716199458
You can catch a softlock and have to reload even now. They stopped patching it fast, too. Anyway, go do a bharv. Bigot.

>>716199458
>One of the least buggy AAA games ever released.
Liar. I played it at launch and it crashed three times during the opening segment and then I had multiple instances of getting stuck floating in the air, being unable to move throughout my playthrough.

>>716199458
That's different than them saying it would be good, which they did, and were incorrect about

>>716199586
>It still kind of seems like you can't even pick up a gun and shoot it without using the telekinesis ability.
But that's on purpose. I don't get the fixation on wanting to hold guns when you have the force and can pick up objects from across the room and either throw it people or if it's some kind of machine, use it. It seems really unimaginative to want to "fix" that.

>>716197724
Team Fortress 2 development predated HL2 by a considerable time. Might be one of the longest private dev periods ever.

>>716191018 (OP)
>refusing to die
so they've decided to actively kill it, splendid

>>716199757
It's a symptom of the game having an overall lack of depth, that it can't even manage something this simple. A dozen or more examples in the gameplay trailer from a couple years ago. It's why that trailer was so badly received.

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>>716199605
I played it on launch, and didn't like it at all, but I had zero bugs, which is crazy because 1-3 were buggy as shit.

>>716199853
>It's a symptom of the game having an overall lack of depth
How is being able to pick up objects from the environment and use them as weapons a lack of depth?

>>716199332
Toreador ARE the safe horny vampires. They're sticking with the sexless WEF approved vampires.

>>716199771
yep first shown at e3 1999
this screenshot is probably older than most /v/ posters

>>716199872
You got lucky I guess

>>716200008
That's not what I said and you aren't cute.

>>716200015
>Toreador ARE the safe horny vampires
No. They are the hedonistic degenerates that even the most sexually depraved leftoid would think is disgusting.

>>716200032
Son, I'm 43

>>716199853
That doesn't answer the question why people would ever want to HOLD guns when they have infinite telekinesis.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhm5xXXqzqE

>I'm sure it'll be goo-

>>716191472
Are you Indian? That's a 4

>>716200324
>i-i'm not a shill! don't look at my literal marketing filenames because I'm too stupid to change the filenames from the marketing .zip files all us shills got!

>>716191347
>non playable clans
>nosferatu

>>716200402
>the marketing director that hired us at Babel Media™ gave us keywords to use on 4chan so we more naturally fit in, but I was still too stupid to change the filenames!

>>716200580
who are you talking to

>>716200282
probably because its going to feel super retarded to have guns you can only pick up with mind powers, like are xir's arms fucked up or something what the fuck

>>716200107
You couldn't make a Toreador sit through Drag Queen Story Hour. Reality left WoD in the dust long ago.

>>716200402
god damn, Rudi triggers me every time i read his fucking mary sue bio. it's as if he was written by some fat tumblrina or turbo basedman.
>>716200424
sweetie, we can't have problematic "ugly" characters like nosferatu that might trigger people's gender dysphoria or be seen as mockeries of those brave and powerful individuals that do not conform to "gender"

>>716200402
>on 4chan, make sure to use pictures of white and/or attractive female characters so we can make them think it won't be "woke"
>we will use the ugly/diverse characters on reddit/x (twitter) so they know it will be inclusive
>if they accuse the game of being "woke," remind them of that one throwaway "I voted republican once" joke in the first Bloodlines, because that's totally the same as what's going to be in the sequel

>>716200282
Because doesn't need magic telekinesis to be a weapon

>>716201134
>use keywords like "triggered" and "snowflake" in your rebuttals. we believe this will help you fit in
>DO NOT respond to multiple replies in a single post - whether it be to answer questions about the product or to defend the product. That WILL out you as a shill
>Ensure they forget about the IP's past use of n*zi imagery. The current rights holders wanted us to clarify that the new heads are progressive and do not want that imagery tied to the new brand

>>716201056
>sweetie, we can't have problematic "ugly" characters like nosferatu
What the fuck are you talking about?

>>716200732
>probably because its going to feel super retarded to have guns you can only pick up with mind powers
Why would you NOT is the question. Why would you want to play a mundane FPS game where you physically hold guns. What is this fixation on wanting to hold the guns? You snatch the gun off the ground with telekinesis, fire it until it's empty, and then fire it across the room to brain someone. Then you do the same with a chair or you use telekinesis to drag someone across the room towards you. Why are people so insistent on wanting to turn Bloodlines into a generic FPS game when the whole point of the game is to play as a vampire? Is it because they want the game to resemble the first game?

>>716201494
Thanks for reminding me that the transtards who control the vtm13 code bases for ss13 removed all the nazi shit.

>>716198512
Walking sims with quick and minimal combat are perfect for World of Darkness games.

>>716191347
>Malkavians aren't playable
Soulless.
>Nosferatu aren't playable
Cowards.

>>716202563
This is the opposite of that because it has a super in depth combat system, stealth system, and in general the gameplay has been a huge focus.

>>716200387
She's enthusiastic and friendly, and that's all that matters. (I assume she's this game's Heather equivalent, a poor sap that you have an opportunity to help.)

>>716201557
I have seen the term "Hive" show up multiple times in relation to this game, always in reference to nosferatu characters who are some kind of secret-keeper. In that leaked dialog snippet Tolly is referred to as a Hive. In the warehouse demo, Willem I think it is, he's also called a Hive. But I can't find any details on this term.

>>716200580
The idea of VTM characters being super political in the human sense is always something that ages like milk because it's hard enough being a vampire and dealing with vampire politics. This is the peril of taking Damsel seriously.

The game feels like a first-person Vampyr clone. Or like what Thief 2014 felt compared to the first Thief game.

>>716205012
More like Dishonored than Thief 2014.

>>716205261
Dishonored was good at its core.

>>716205680
And so is this.

>>716191032
>>716191098
Still looks utterly soulless.
This is gonna be so boring and gay that it won't even become a popular thing to shit on.

>>716201557
he's literally me

>>716191018 (OP)
I'm not reading all this shit. The game has been in dev hell for years and I have no reason to believe it will be any good.
Sell me on it in three sentences or less.

>>716204284
>But I can't find any details on this term.
theres an amalgam power in v5 that mixes animalism and obfuscate called unliving hive, where the vampire becomes a living host for small insects like roaches, spiders or flies
or they're a subfaction

>>716191347
what the fuck do they mean Malkavian isn't playable? Half the fun is doing a second playthrough with a Malkavian... that's fucking awful

>>716191032
>that thing you loved? it was actually bad! by the the new product™
Has this tactic ever worked?

>>716191163
>we knew nobody wants to replay this game so you can unlock all clans' abilities no matter what clan you start as
WHAT THE FUG

>>716209948
because malks are a problematic portrayal of mentla illness or something

>>716210442
The dead space remake made bank, no?

>>716193343
So nothing about the actual game and just bullshit surrounding it. Go suck shit somewhere else. I’m sure the mods will let you make another AC thread where you brag about player counts.

>>716203098
Can’t have anything fun or interesting going on with mental illness otherwise the SRI squad will start whining that someone was called a schizo.

>>716211094
not enough to not close the studio

>>716211094
Yeah, that's why it's not getting a sequel and nothing else is being done with the IP.
That's the mark of a successful release.

>>716210442
The retarded part is that they seem to think they’re appealing to normalfags. Like who the fuck do they think is going to care about this? Some random hyperactive faggot that only plays CoD and Madden or someone thats played and loves the first game? The sheer ineptitude on display really makes me think that everyone involved with this game on an official level has severe brain damage.

>>716191234
3 years of actual development isn't enough to make an AAA RPG.

>>716191347
>Malks not playable
>Nosferatu not playable
Soullessness all but confirmed

>>716200402
>>716201134
This character feels like someone desperately wanted their own Nines but also thought Damsel was meant to be taken seriously and amped up the bullshit to 15 with no irony whatsoever. Like this is a character I imagine everyone making fun of behind his back and calling him a faggot.

Thanks for the GI news, OP.

>>716191018 (OP)
>>716191032
>>716191098
>>716191163
>>716191220
>>716191273
>>716191347
Not a whole lot of new info honestly. And a criminal lack of new photos. Thanks for the scan though OP

>>716191472
holy shit the face.

>>716209948
Multiple playthroughs? Oh sweetheart, the current gamer demands to be able to experience all the content on their first playthrough.
Now open wide and take your free on-demand character respec like a good boy

>>716194148
holy shit he has female jaw.

>>716212103
what

>>716193197
She looks nicer here than previously seen. The tremere scientist lady.
>400 year old predator feeds on a 50 year old

>>716211238
>not enough to not close the studio
Given the state of the industry (see Tango Gameworks) that's not saying much though.

>>716191018 (OP)
>The Chinese Room
They don't have any good games. This game looks bad too.

Bah, very little new info to scrape by. But thanks again OP.

>>716192052
Even if we happen to have Ford Prefect situation, that doesn't mean that it was well-handled nor that it was desirable in the context of the game. A reference to something that no one will have knowledge of is not necessarily a good reference, to be say it nicely. Not to mention, meaning. "Phyre" for a vampire doesn't sound good however much you'll want to twist it.
We'll see when the game hit I guess.

>>716192871
>How fucking delusional can you get?
THAT delusional.
You're asking to people that have been /fans/ (remember what that word is an abbreviation of?) of an IP for decades and are looking for something, anything, to be enthused about in an upcoming big-release to be reasonable.
We *want* this to be good quite simply. And are willing to discuss any new tidbit of info we can get our hands on.

>>716200424
day 1 DLC, please understand

I'll give them that, I'm liking the idea that the marks not so much sap just you of you powers (this could be put on the back of "just awakened from torpor anyway) as much as tie you to the territory.
But then I'm a sucker for that kind of narrative justification of game mechanics.

I never had negative expectations for something as I do for this game, just how much of a shitshow will it be? we'll probably get vampire horse armor on release, right?

>>716213306
The sexiest Tremere was Annabelle in the Parliament of Knives. Peak sexo.

>>716214904
Still mad I couldn't play Tremere in Parliament of Knives. At least Lasombra was a thing.

>>716197724
Dead Island 2

>>716214990
>At least Lasombra was a thing.
They added Lasombra? When I played it, it was only Ventrue, Toreador and Nossie.

>>716215136
Yeah "dlc" added Malk and Lasombra

>>716191234
None.

>>716193197
>Like the original, Bloodlines 2 is a story-driven experience, with multiple factions and key figures you can make your friends or foes. Unlike the original, though, it’s a modern, fast-paced, first-person action game, taking full advantage of Vampire: The Masquerade’s wild line-up of vampire powers. The end result is somewhere between a sequel and a spiritual successor – it has nods to the original, with narrative connections and some overlapping gameplay abilities, but the story stands alone, and the combat is snappier and modernized.
Translation: we made it an action game with some light narrative RPGs elements, disregarding everything else about VTMB. A vampire dishonored. And we're proud of it.

>>716191234
0, but I will fix it, alone even

>>716215225
Basically.

>>716215168
Is the Malk playthrough interesting? I remember there being a boring Malk NPC who was essentially just a walking exposition dump.

>>716215320
No idea, haven't tried Malk yet, but I heard decent things from other anons.

>>716215421
Thanks, anon. Maybe it's time to give the game another try.

>>716191032
>"We have the code base and everything, but we basically started again because we had a very different vision"
Can't wait for the inevitable leak of the "Mitsoda-cut". It might not leak this year or next year, but that build will leak at some time either by a disgruntled ex-Hardsuit Labs employee, The Chinese Room or someone in between who've handled the build.

I feel like they stole the combat wholesale from Vampyr
Which is fine cause nobody but me even knows that DONTNOD makes games other than teenage VNs

>>716191234
This is a bloodlines sequel in name, only.

>>716195391
Yes. However, I ASSUME his voice actor has since been re-cast. The Betting Man trailer pre-dates the "Fabien is now a Malk" re-write.

>>716215951
How do you figure? There's nohthing they've shown of Bloodlines 2 so far that makes me link its combat to Vampyr's third person, rather shitty beat-em all attempt.
And I replayed that game just a week ago.

>>716216093
>The Betting Man trailer pre-dates the "Fabien is now a Malk" re-write.
It pre-dates the announcement. We don't know when the decision for a re-write was taken behind closed doors, do we?

>>716200179
hello, fellow boomer. i thought i was the only one.

>>716210442
That screenshot is from the cancelled version. Also, yea, most successful sequels are honest about what wasn't great about the previous game.

>zero actually skimpy girls

>>716210909
Being able to unlock cross-clan disciplines has always been a feature of the tabletop.

>>716211403
>The retarded part is that they seem to think they’re appealing to normalfags. Like who the fuck do they think is going to care about this?
They're aiming for the Baldur's Gate 3 audience.

>>716191163
>No Nosferatu
>No Malk
>Even if they had Malk they would make it unappealing save for hardcore roleplayers and "its literally me frfr" neurotic normalfags
>No Gangrel
>No Toreador
...Ok I get that last one, no wants those sparkly faggots around, but it's still very telling that a game from a decade ago could code all these additional clans but not this modern one with all the additional tools... Also aren't the Banu Haqim the Assamites? The super isolationist clan that doesn't bother with Vampire Politics and tends to stay with their mortal herds?

>>716209948
Half the appeal of a malk playthough is the malk commenting on things. You have a malk in your head at all times now.
>>716210982
Again, Fabien is a malk. I don't understand people parroting this argument.

>>716198053
Except for Doom 2016, SMT 4, and Metroid Dread all those games suck. They either are boring, poor gameplayed, or have very shit writing. Or all 3. I will concede that SMT 5 had fun battles and a lot of potential, some additional platforming and a more well written story would have done wonders, but for the most part its all a waste.

>>716214856
There is no info on expansions or DLC at the moment. When preorders reopen we'll find out. The studio is concerningly downsized currently with only 55 employees, so I'm not sure on what they're gonna be able to deliver DLC-wise, but the new article does confirm two clans are coming as DLC. So that hasn't changed. I wonder how they plan to integrate these clans. There were rumours that there would be one clan added to the main game and some kind of story DLC clan, but the thing is, they've added more story content to the main game after the delay. More quests, more endings, etc. So maybe content they had earmarked for DLC got integrated into the main game. Then again, it's Paradox so who the fuck knows.
>While there are over a dozen clans in the world, you’ll only choose from six in Bloodlines 2 – four in the base game and two more coming as DLC later.

>>716216686
Assamites have been taken in some intra-clan war, and a great number of the clan in talk to join the Camarilla since Revised.
It just so happened to have finally been an event in V5.
Conversely, Revised made the Gangrel leave the sect.

>>716216319
You buffoon, you absolute retard, Fabien's voice in that trailer is the same as Fabien's voice in the extended "let's get yelled at by a Nos" footage. Moreover, the light-hearted personality Malk!Fab is supposed to have is totally absent from both things.

Someone give me the qrd on the new setting compared to the first. I only know the game, not the TT

>>716215672
>Can't wait for the inevitable leak of the "Mitsoda-cut". It might not leak this year or next year, but that build will leak at some time either by a disgruntled ex-Hardsuit Labs employee, The Chinese Room or someone in between who've handled the build.
I've been pining for the hardsuit build of the game ever since it got canned in 2020. I know Wesp5 could fix that shit in a year, tops.

>>716215225
The translation is that the original game was awful mechanically and you endured it because you liked the writing.

>>716216902
>Made Gangrel leave the sect
Ok that makes sense they were definitely more Anarch typed... And I supposed its possible to have a civil war amongst immortals suffering from "cabin fever" so to speak, but it still feels weird.

>>716215225
Comparison to Dishonored is sorta on point, but a huge difference is that VTMB2 has endless talking, endless dialogue trees, and twice as many endings as Bloodlines 1. There are not that many endings in Dishonored, and there isn't that much dialogue.

>>716217107
Gangrels are the doomers of the vampire race.

>>716216967
>You buffoon, you absolute retard
>that.escalated.quickly.jpg
I'll have to understand that to your online ass, insult is punctuation (that's all the benefit of the doubt I can muster right now), but can you not answer a simple question without turning into some kind of petulant shout out?
That said, you do realize that just because they put something within video with a "not representative of final product" disclaimer doesn't mean they haven't decided to change it for the final product.
So honest question, does anyone knows when that decision was taken?

>>716217015
>Second Inquisition: gubmint knows vamps exist, sort of
>Tremere btfo: Second Inq gets their biggest success from a drone strike on Tremere chantry, the Pyramid is bust, the clan is now three(?) factions
>greater focus on thin-bloods
>Nos internet is kill; Camarailla vamps now totally forbidden to contact each other through the tubes
>some clans have changed their loyalties, ie, Lasombra are sorta-kinda in the Camarilla now
>Beckoning: elders are getting sucked into the Middle East, engaging in some weird antedeluvian war, maybe, books are deliberately vague so Storytellers can choose their own spin; point is, elders are much rarer, now
>Sabbat is (almost) kill, mostly joining into the ME ante war, but some splinter cells still active and doing vamp terrorism
>some clans reshuffled, soft-retconned, ie Salubri no longer exist

>>716217015
Second Inquisition happened. The government, or parts of them, know about vampires. (They call them blank bodies.)
Vampires aren't allowed to use phones or computers because the Shreknet was compromised. (Part of how the government found out.)
Elders fell compelled to travel to the middle east where they never come back. That's what Lou is referring to, presumably, when she says, "Can't you hear it? My blood is singing. I will wait for you."

>>716217454
>Salubri no longer exist
Salubri awere made availabe to play in the V5 companion in 2020 (if I remember well), and expanded upon in the Players Guide.

>>716216967
I don't think the Betting Man voice is Fabien.
https://youtu.be/HwhvfH-Ij8Q?si=xHSbPq88ugPCgUGT&t=121
https://youtu.be/a2cXtEoGx7E?si=TvHmOA-462PnVMRq&t=2

>>716217716
It probably is Fabien, but it's hard to tell which version he is.

>>716217454
>Salubri no longer exist
Some of my best campaigns ive been through in Hunter involved bodyguarding that clan. F to Salubri gf.

>>716216374
And my axe! I'm here with you anon.

>One of the clan is Banu Haqim
>The team tries their hardest to not touch islam or arabic aspects of the clan, for fear of offending the protected group
Why bother including it as a choice if they tiptoe around it so much

>>716218201
Nice one. Adding to my notes of ideas to pilfer.
Thanks.

>>716218221
Paradox has tried shoving Banu Haqim into everything now,

>>716217716
What if its Phyre's voice? I hope not though, the male should have an accent just like the female.

>>716218370
Speaking of best campaigns, here's a great one I ended up in.
>bunch of Setites set up a sanctuary in a nominally Anarch but Sabbat-contested town
>the town is in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, surrounded by woods and mountains
>Setites feel strangely comfy exploring those woods, which is usually not the case for vampires
>decide it's unnatural, perform some ooga-booga ritual handwaved by the GM to get a read on the area
>the woods are corrupted to absolute shit and there's a Black Spiral Dancer caern nearby
>Setites send an envoy to them
>envoy is shaking in his boots and sweating like a nigger in a courtroom, nearly botches all of his Presence rolls but manages to get back to the sanctuary without his skin getting turned into a ritual drum
>Dancers have been eyeing the city too, and they really don't like the Anarchs
>Setites propose a truce, Dancers agree and send one of their dudes to the town
>the sanctuary needs money to function, and Anarchs already hold the reins of local alcohol, crack and weed trade, starting an open war with them is not an option
>so the Setites come up with a plan
>they open a bakery, make a couple ghouls and get them to work, baking cakes
>the Dancer also works there, performing Wyrm rituals on every cake
>local fat fucks absolutely love those cakes and start buying them like crazy
>Wyrm corruption gradually makes the fatsos unable to get their sugar kicks from anything else
>in the meantime, Setites crank up the price on cakes to obscene heights
>money is pouring in, and the fatties come crawling, begging and groveling for that tainted sugar fix
>cars and apartments get sold to Setites, fatsos are forced to do all sorts of shit like abducting the local mayor and torturing her to death so that she could later be replaced by a Setite ghoul with plausible deniability
The whole thing ended when a Sabbat pack caught wind of it, chased the Dancer off and left the Setites staked in the sun, but it was hilarious while it lasted.

>>716219459
Unlikely to be Phyre. I lean towards Fabien because he is the one who explains the world and characters to you. But for all we know this is from a conversation with another character where you ask his opinion on various NPCs. It's not clear what kind of rewrites the game has undergone in the last several months. Evidently Fabien has changed a bunch of times, but we don't know what he sounds like right now.

>>716219635
That's fantastic

I wonder if they'll let you have a ghoul.

I am hyped for Bloodlines 2 and I will play it on release.

>>716217716
Those are the same voice actor, you voice-deaf autist.

>>716220535
No, that's problematic and too difficult to write for these guys.

>>716191234
none

>>716220625
One is trying to sound "street". That was likely the thinblood version. The other is more gravelly. Speaking in a lower register. Probably same actor, but different persona. It's hard to tell if the finalized version of Fabien is wacky or hard boiled in an absurd way. We'll find out soon enough.

>Main character is 400 years old
>Sidekick character is 100 years old
Yet none of them will be racist, homophobic, or anything like that.

>>716221074
Was there any actual racism in Bloodlines 1? But you're right that there's zero chance of characters calling you a dyke if you hit on them.

>>716191018 (OP)
Considering The Chinese Room is one of "those" studios, I expect this to be nothing but sterilized slop.
Truly a fate worse than death for Bloodlines 2.

>>716221170
Some people today accuse the Chinatown segment of being racist despite the area having exclusively Asian voice actors.
As far as Kindred go, I cannot recall.

>>716221267
Paradox are more likely to have issues with the game's content. They wouldn't allow the characters to be all cunt cunting cunty cunt like in Still Wakes the Deep. In terms of edgy content, I expect something comparable to Swansong.

>>716191586
>Apparently the game is full of really obscure Seattle references
All the more reason to hate it

From what I've seen the game is shaping up to be at least interesting and maybe even good.
Unfortunately, V5 is a terrible edition, that has almost entirely ruined the setting, so the game isn't likely to capture minds like the OG was.
Plus the shilling here was disgusting, so I'll likely pirate it.

>>716221267
source for the art?

I need that Hardsuit labs build , ya hear me!

>>716225619
do you?
https://youtu.be/6xRCZePzzqM
Did you ever see the leaked hospital gameplay by the way. Looked awfully boring.

>>716191018 (OP)
>no new info on vamp Christina Hendricks
Journalism is dead

>>716226071
The modders will add in everything that's missing,.

>>716226367
can't do that without a leaked build

>>716225619
Same

>>716226071
Hardsuit's version looked terrible. Genuinely terrible.

Will they show anything on Gamescom?

>>716227158
Probably not. Costs money.

>>716191234
Depends on what you expecting. If you want a spiritual successor to the first game, then none. If you want Dishonored-like in Masquerade setting with light RPG elements, then yeah, it might be not so bad.

>>716191234
2077 / 10

>>716227706
>If you want Dishonored-like in Masquerade setting with light RPG elements, then yeah, it might be not so bad.
I'd agree but the writing does seem like it might end up being dogshit