Thread 716204908

What even is dexterity?

right handed skill

>>716204908 (OP)
it's a skill taught by dexter from dexter's lab

>skill in performing tasks, especially with the hands
A simple Google search could have prevented this thread

>>716205152
Thats incredibly vague though.

Wait is dexterity just hand eye coordination?

>>716205216
So? It's the answer.

>>716205216
It really isn't. Dexterity could improve skills like fighting with melee weapons or increase lockpicking speed/efficiency for example.

>>716205258
No, it's just fine control over your extremities whether looking or not.

>>716204908 (OP)
lightweight finesse and refinement

>>716205216
WHAT THE FUCK IS VAGUE ABOUT THAT

A body builder is like 10 strength, 3 dex.
A gymnast is like 10 dex, 3 strength.

>>716204908 (OP)
i associated it with flexibility, balance, and reaction speed

>>716205398
This is embarrassingly incorrect.
Gymnasts are stronger than body builders. Maybe had you said powerlifters you would have some point.

>>716205387
So drawing with a pencil and fondling breasts are examples of dexterity?

>>716204908 (OP)
have you ever done ANY kind of sports that is not lifting weights?

>>716205457
No.

>>716205320
>fighting with melee weapons or increase lockpicking speed/efficiency
Do you realize how broad of a range that is though? One is swing giant metal objects the other is fine tuning, precision like surgery.

>>716205398
but thats not dexterity thats agility, mobility and flexibility

>>716205558
Do you realise that a broad range of applications does not make the core concept vague?

>>716205558
Think "good with hands" then motherfucker, I could care less you autistic psychopath incapable of understanding well-established basic concepts.

>>716205505
They're tasks performed with the hands. See how its vague now?

>>716205398
>Confusing dex with stam

>>716205491
All those things require strength its just applied in different ways. Lifting weights is barely even functional strength to begin with. Its very specialized for a non real world use case.

>>716204908 (OP)
I'll tell you what its not: agility. I forever hate DnD for lumping them together.

>>716205621
Yes it does.
>hes incredibly dexterous
>oh so hes really good at hema and buhurt?
>no he picks locks

>be a jeweller who can do incredibly complex, tiny engravings
>this clearly means I also have a high initiative roll

>>716205642
Yes they are tasks. Not examples of dexterity. Dexterity would affect how well you could perform the tasks in a similar manner to strength affecting how well you could carry in the shopping for Ma or punch a man to death. There's no vagueness.

>>716205640
See the people that make the types of posts like these can't think abstractly or don't even have a formal understanding of the subject matter. Its like when you have those what is a dog questions. A dog is a dog is the only way they can understand it.

90% of the time when RPGs say "Dexterity" they mean "Agility"
Dexterity would be your skill at playing guitar or something, not moving your body quickly

>>716205802
>hes incredibly dexterous
>oh so hes really good at hema and buhurt?
>no so he's incredibly dexterous as I fucking said

>>716205859
Clearly you've never seen an artist with poor pencil control. See: normal people.

Precision in your movements and in the amount of force you exert

>>716205884
Yes anon, you're autistic. We've already established this as fact ITT.

>>716205941
What?
Show your work so I can see how you arrived at that answer.

>>716205685
Stamina is just you're ability to do it for a long time. There is cardio stamina just like their is regular stamina but none of these are really necessary for gymnastics if you only have to perform one move or get long breaks.

>>716205450
>Gymnasts are stronger than body builders.
Objectively false.

>>716204908 (OP)
zoomers were a mistake

>>716205968
See thats another thing they don't even know what autism is. It just "feels" autistic to them so they think someone has it. But they have no understanding as to what autism is.

Thread theme:
https://youtu.be/Qks_NNkhjj4?si=QptE3A6FviXAS9_x

>>716205959
Would be great as an overarching concept though make absolutely 0 sense as something you could dump points into given the breadth of the range.

>>716205997
I never even claimed to be an artist you're not thinking logically.

>>716204908 (OP)
Fine motor skills.

>>716206060
>nooooo you can't just deconstruct everything I take for granted

>>716206218
Here we go. End this gay ass faggot thread here.

>>716205640
>I could care less

So you care a little

More games need a DEX/AGI split. Without it the stat always becomes overpowered.

>>716206257
you went 10 minutes without even saying it that makes you a gay ass faggot if you agree

>>716206132
I think it does make sense?
I both helps you be a better locksmith, a better thief and a better swordsman. Given the same bow and arrow, and if both persons can draw it successfully, and if both have the same general experience in that task, the more dexterous person would have better accuracy. If you have mages that must use complex and ridiculously accurate hand gestures to cast spells it could also help you be a better mage. It would also help exotic dancers, acrobats, etc.

>>716206338
You were given the general definition that covers this three posts into the thread.

>>716204908 (OP)
Nice cat you get there.

>>716206328
No the problem now is that just everything is rollslop so AGI is the most important tool. If you could block things with a sword then strength and motion would actually be more beneficial since you can determine where you move your opponents attack towards. Of course no game even tries to have realistic recoils. There is usually just a single standard result for an attack being blocked at all.

>>716206443
Maybe you should have read the posts about the vagueness and the examples that invalidated that.

>>716206549
>It's... LE VAGUE!!!
There's no way you don't take cock up your ass IRL

>>716206630
He can't be very good at giving hand jobs if he doesn't even understand the meaning of the word "dexterity" that's for sure.

>>716206549
And the posts about the vagueness are fucking stupid so who cares about them?

>>716206630
Projecting.
>skill in performing tasks, especially with the hands
this applies to many strength based assessments as well. Honestly its one of the worst definitions I've ever seen trying to define anything.

>>716206746
The post they were replying to was fucking stupid so who cares about it?

>>716206757
No it doesn't

>>716206808
Yes it does.

>>716206505
Huh? Plenty of games have different animations for blocking large attacks and more than that have stat's that determine how effective your blocking is

>>>Actually conversing with a dyed-in-the-wool autistic retard who can't even into basic concepts and words of the English language
I'm sure you think you're ACTUALLY an "intellectual" to boot, lmfao.

>>716206841
Strength is a matter of exerting force, if skill is being assessed then you're talking about dexrerity.
Tasks often contain elements of both of those things at the same time.

OP isn't good with xe's hands

>>716205398
Body builder has like 3 str, it's all cosmetics dlc

>>716206872
I'm not talking about the receiver changing based on the action of the attacker, I'm talking about the attacker changing based on the action of the receiver. With weapons or empty hand doesn't matter, when you block you can always choose what part to block on, which part of "you" to block when to block as in the timing during the arc of the force and at the end of it, since most people don't just stay deadlocked, you chose where to push, slide, glide or pull, which then affects what you're opponent can do after ward. So depending on how you blocked he would be in a completely different position stancewise so he either couldn't even perform the same types of attacks or if he did they wouldn't come out the same "way."

>>716206923
No I think I'm at base level. You're clearly bottom of the barrel though.

Dexterity refers to being skillful and agile with your hands or body. It's about having a high level of coordination and precision in your movements. Think of a surgeon or a musician, they're often very dexterous because they need to make precise movements to do their job well.

AI is smarter than OP.

>>716205558
> Things swinging a weapon with all of their weight rather than controlling the weapon with their finger tips with loose grip they clutch when striking.
I know you haven't held a sword in your life but c'mon man..

>>716206936
Skill is completely ambiguous. Simply example is rowing oars. In this skill is just strength. No one would say a guy with like "perfect form" who can't even row a boat is skilled. Many other tasks require you to exert force that requires a greater level of control over your body than just raw effort. Martial arts being a clean example but even just kicking a soccer ball. They're just strength tasks but people don't know how to use their body. If you want to call lack of ignorance a skill thats up to you. Its undefined.

>>716207113
Wrong, bodybuilders have high Endurance/Mass stat combined since most of the bodybuilding is high rep/volume work to get the pump going, powerlifters are all strength no Dex or End.

>>716207449
> Rowing is strength skill LOOOL.
Powershitter get the fuck out of here, its endurance sport.
> Strength (Str) Sport: Strongman, Powerlifting, Olympic Lifting.
> Endurance (End) Sport: Wrestling, Marathons, Rowing, Skiing.
> Cardio (Agi) Sports: Sprinting, Boxing and Ninja Warriors.

>>716207236
If you would have read through the thread it would have been completely obvious to you why I have a problem with these two things being lumped together. They're not even the same skill in real life. Its makes 0 sense as a way to dump stats.

>>716207449
>They're just strength tasks
No they aren't and you should know that because you are pointing out the way in which they are not.

>>716207321
Well you'd be wrong but I guess you don't know much but have no problem talking in spite of it.

>>716207562
>If you've had read through the thread, you would have realized that I am a dipshit
Oh believe me, I did.

>>716204908 (OP)
Fine motor control.

>>716207550
there are so many things wrong with these categories I don't even know if I should bother

>>716207610
You mainly use your arms/shoulders to lift the thing up and strike it down: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/eJPZps-twFM

Oh noo you are a retard, look where the power generates its in the shoulders and the arms and the final thrust comes from the grip.

>>716207638
I accept your concession.

Dexterity is the stat that allows you to become better at backflips by picking locks

>>716207668
Agility is doing things quick, Endurance is doing heavy lifting for a long time Strength is utilizing maximum force to lift something up, you are a fucking retard and should've been aborted by your bastard mother you whoreson.

>>716207550
Endurance and explosive are both cardio you're looking for fast twitch versus slow twitch muscle fiber.

>>716205059
>Sinisterity

>>716204908 (OP)
>What even is dexterity?
>>>/wsg/5927928

>>716207712
You didn't even read my post correctly so yea its clear I'm talking to a moron.

>>716205216
its eye hand coordination u fat sub human

>>716207840
You are a retard who shouldn't even breathe in the first place because all you know is mouth breathing.

>>716207728
these are two separate skills

>>716207861
>that nigga whos quite literally blind

>>716207941
That's only -20% in efficiency to blind fighting if skilled. He'll whoop your ass.

>>716207804
oh cmon man you know this was not necessary

>>716207896
That draw upon the same basic trait

>>716204908 (OP)
https://files.catbox.moe/vnvi3h.mp4

what games do you think he plays?

>>716207872
>get mad and just make up shit about the other poster
like yea bro this is why I don't take you seriously

>>716205398
gymnasts main str and dex
bodybuilders main end
powerlifters main str

>>716207896
Not if you're playing a video game.

>>716208043
what should i be if i want to specialize in LCK

>>716207991
maybe they're categorized the same way but there is nothing transferable between them you can't improve your backflips by picking locks

>>716208026
He started it calling people retarded first, you swing it fist and then start crying when hits land on your face, you deserve an abortion. I don't need to respect retarded whoresons who should end up in a ditch if they can't respect others and waste people's time and earth's oxygen.

>>716208000
super mario 64

>>716208071
a bad one

>>716208043
Bodybuilders main End and Dex though, you can't pose or vacuum without serious control over your musculature.

>>716208085
A Nepo-Baby or a gambling pro, that's about it.

>>716207982
what do you mean
he's quick with it

>>716206321
lol he shouldn't of said that

>>716208043
Where is this idea that body builders are weak coming from? Yea they COULD be weak if they only trained their muscles for size. But the fact of the matter is most body builders are waaaaay stronger than the average joe and the average athlete just because they mix up their routine so often they inadvertently get pure strength training. Just because they're not 100% optimized for strength like powerlifters doesn't mean they're not strong.

>>716208115
There is if the developers decided to dumb down their RPG mechanics in order to prevent mouthbreathing casuals from being filtered.

>>716208275
do we really need to kick dex when they're down every day?

>>716208429
> Arnold's Classic literally test bodybuilders on Strength Lifts from power lifting.
> BODYBUILDERS ARE ALL WEAAAK.
> Always mogging 4/3/2/1 standards.
HMMM!??

>>716208451
I mean devs can do and say anything doesn't mean it reflects reality. Like half this shit like vitality and resistance is pure fiction when resisting poison is the same as resisting blunt objects.

>>716204908 (OP)
in terms of video and tabletop games it's a grouping together of all physical prowess that isn't brute strength or durability.
So reflexes, hand to eye coordination, motor control, balance etc.

>>716208507
what about internet bodybuilders though?

>>716208691
I feel like this is the only honest response in this thread because he actually said its a grouping.

>>716208710
Mixed bag, depends which generation? 2000s? Yeah they were strong roiders and meatheads some shared 4chan demographics on /fit/ and bodybuilding forums heh. Muscle chads talking about Anime like it was normal. Tiktokkers are just fucktards who are dysgenic zoomers that just roid for attention not strength.

>>716208000
>the polite as fuck meow from the mum for shutting the kitten up
hehe

>strength
>dexterity
>mobility
>flexibility
>durability
>endurance
>explosivity
>agility
>speed
>control
>intellect
>instinct
this a good list?

>>716205398
gymnasts are like a 7-8 strength retard

>>716209021
Maybe they have body strength but they can't move things.

>>716208085
LCK isn't real. Its basically just INT or CHR applied. Unless you're talking about things that aren't an essential element of you like getting hit with a meteor then sure.

>>716209010
Nah its lacking.

>>716209148
Luck is more about rolling high in a game you are playing or landing those gacha pulls more often with better efficiency, being born in the right family, guessing right on a 50/50 more often etc.

>>716209306
>willpower
aint that up to the player?

Dexterity is when you are so determined and handy you can grab a man and make him kiss you

Strength is when you pick up your boyfriend and carry him around.

>>716209407
Nope, Morale checks are dice based hehehe, every loss and bad result will hit your Vs Morale.

>>716209359
>don't roll the gacha at all
like I said its INT

>>716209436
uhh I don't think either of these are accurate

>>716209563
Its a Save Vs. Stat obviously for a reason just like Willpower. (Though it might be a boost stat in certain situations that's the passive stats in essence.)

>>716207713
>I accept your concession
I'm not selling snacks, fuckwit.

>looks (face)
>height
>muscles
>money
>fame
>social status
>toughness
>humor
>intelligence
>social circle
>age
>genital size
>personality
where do you put your hundred points?

>>716208085
bring loaded dice.

Threads are meaningless, you can just ask ChatGPT these questions and get much more compelling answers to everything.

>>716209780
Cock.

>>716209787
Only anon who understands the world.

>>716209808
>chatgoypitytoy

>>716209808
finger prince

>>716205687
Why is AI so fucking soulful?

>>716210004
because its designed to entertain simians

>>716209929
I don't think so!

Any good rpgs untainted by the baggage of dnd? Obviously something of that type though I don't mean jrpgs or hybrids like mass effect or whatever.

>>716204908 (OP)
>spec dexterity
>still terrible with my left hand
>should've specced sinisterity

>>716204908 (OP)
Dexterity determines magic skill and saving throws.

>>716210895
thats SP

>>716209808
>>716210476
The armpit hair is a weird detail

>>716211219
It's something that really speaks to me

>>716208000
why are they stuck in gay baby jail?

>>716212252
looks like they're being raised by a single mom

>>716204908 (OP)
Strength, but edgy

>>716209780
uh
age

>>716209780
These are all free to edit in the character editor other than Mass stat affecting your max height, muscle mass and weight stats heh. Looks isn't just your face, how dysgenic to assume your body's ideal shape isn't a powerful asset regardless of height.

>>716205398
Successful bait

>>716205450
>>716206028
Bodybuilding is mostly just HGH with a bit of light exercise to get rid of fat.

Fine motor skill, you fucking retard.

His ancestors were fierce beasts, they thrived so he could be protected by (white European) homo sapiens.

>>716214618
Big Floppa if he primordial

>>716205450
A body builder is usually more likely to beat a gymnast at arm wrestling purely due to their greater mass and weight. Sure they're not built for strength, but they still tend to be big and relatively heavy.

>>716204908 (OP)
>>716205216
>>716207861
Hand-eye coordination is just part of it. It's the ability to complete complex motor functions.
Some examples requiring dexterity are juggling, spinning a coin across your fingers, slight of hand, swordsmanship, surgery, tennis/ping-pong, playing the guitar. Some of these primarily rely on hand-eye coordination like juggling, swordsmanship or tennis/ping-pong and some of these rely primarily on fine motor functions like slight of hand, surgery or playing the guitar.
Ironically, the most common DEX trope in RPGs, archery, is as far from dexterity as you can get. Aiming (i.e. judging distance and anticipating trajectory) has nothing to do with dexterity.

Melee Weapons:
>Strength: The power of your strikes.
>Accuracy: Hit percentage
>Dexterity: How fast you can draw your weapon and aim for vitals.
>Agility: How well you can dodge. AGI+DEX affects critical strikes.
>Speed: How fast you can move. Combined with AGI and DEX, it also factors into counters.

Bow & Arrow:
>Strength: The power of your shot.
>Accuracy: Increases the likelihood of hitting your target and also affects how quickly you can line up your shot.
>Dexterity: How quickly you can draw and notch your arrows. The higher your DEX, the faster you can start aiming your next shot. Having both high ACC and DEX are vital to being able to shoot your arrows as fast as possible.
>Agility: How well you can dodge.
>Speed: How fast you can move.

Gun:
>Same as bow and arrow except with a dramatically decreased emphasis on strength.

>>716216647
>the most common DEX trope in RPGs, archery
thats why rpg cucks are always retards, same with anime posters

>>716217132
>dramatically decreased emphasis on strength.
Except when the gun is heavy and has strong recoil.

>>716218046
Even then, it's still less demanding than a bow. Strength dictates the force and range of the arrow. A heavy gun has a minimum strength requirement to use, but also a maximum strength cap before you hit dramatically diminishing returns. A bow has no strength cap. The stronger you are, the further your bow will fly.

>>716218359
That's true but that's not what you want your bow to do
This is why the brawny meathead wasn't put on archery detail

>>716207795
>Roirepus si deeps ym esuaceb niw ot erus ma I

>>716218359
>The stronger you are, the further your bow will fly.
It shoots arrows, grug. You don't have to throw it.

>>716209808
>>716210476
>>716211553
Absolute sex. Which models?

>>716205216
I wonder if RPG like INT thresholds is actually how the real world works. If your INT is 4 or lower, you go "that's really vague though" if you have 5 or more, you understand it with no issue whatsoever.

>>716221414
Elaborate further.

>>716222429
you failed the INT check

>>716223162
Well to be fair it was too vague.

>>716204908 (OP)
Toxotransmosis moment.

>>716204908 (OP)
Hand-eye coordination, reflexes, balance, flexibility, explosive movement, sometimes speed.
It's usually also stealth, although in my opinion stealth should be more of a perception/insight/empathy type skill, but whatever.

>>716208000
*equips your child*

>>716224662
Stealth should be split between perception, agility and dexterity.

>>716204908 (OP)
Hand-eye coordination

>>716204908 (OP)
i wish i was good at guitar, i'm good at basically every videogame including guitar hero but guitar is too hard

>>716229081
Not really an answer.

>>716229606
so true

>>716204908 (OP)
it's the ability to parse a progression of 16th notes in perfect time without missing a single note and while staying on beat
it's the ability to place 4 arrows mere centimeters apart in quick succession and on command while more than 100 yards away
it's being able to perfectly rub the pussy and get her to achieve orgasm multiple times without once being instructed on what to do

>>716204908 (OP)
>Give me (CHA) a place (WIS) to stand (CON), and a lever (DEX) long enough (INT), and I will move (STR) the world (Jojo reference).

>>716205216
Imagine two people trying to screw a nut onto a bolt in a tight spot.
One person fumbles with it and drops it. The other nails it.
The latter has better manual dexterity (at least in that task).

>>716224686
*half-life ui weapon selects*
*snark noises*

>>716230296
>The latter has better manual dexterity (at least in that task).
>Clearly describing low INT/WIS, high STR
Don't treat bolts as nails.

>>716230028
shut up fag

>>716230828
>misinterprets "nails it" as literal nailing
Imagine not being American. I couldn't.

>>716204908 (OP)
Cope for hungry skeletons. In real life all dex builds are in fact quality builds

>>716204908 (OP)
Haha, idiot cat. How are you gonna get out of this one?
Stupid fucking cat.

>>716204908 (OP)
learn an instrument, or master a video game with the controller. then you'll know

>>716230861
make me bitch tits.

>>716204908 (OP)
Let's use your picture as an example. The person you posted is dexterous because he can hold the baby puss puss without hurting it using only one hand.

dextarity is muscle movement

>>716210004
You mean fucking forced and repulsive.

>>716230974
He's going to use his cuddliness as a weapon. The hooman will be helpless.

>>716231081
>oops I lost my dextarity
>drops the kitten for kisses

>>716204908 (OP)
I want that kitty on my face.

>>716205216
goofy piratesoftware-aaah response

>>716217132
>aim for vitals
That's what critical hits are though

>>716232110
>talking like Hasimir Fenring all of a sudden