Thread 716205846

This game kinda trash honestly. Base rise is obviously the most uninteresting and boring shit you have to force yourself to go through, only to get to sunbreak and it's the same shit except without the godawful forced rampages. Everything feels diluted, every weapon can do everything and only offensive armor skills matter. Everything feels meaningless, I've made two armor sets during the entirety of sunbreak and they carried me all the way to primordial malzeno. I have less than a hundred hours in this game, whereas in the older games I could easily rack in multiple hundreds of hours. I know this game still offers far more content than most games, but monster hunter isn't most games. No wonder wilds is the death of the series, the devs are trying their hardest for it to be like normal games, when that's not what made the series good in the first place.

milds flopped

>first post seething about wilds
lmao, rent free

Rise and Wilds are shit. Port 4U ffs

>>716205846 (OP)
>lady knight
>she thick
Maybe i should play Rise..

>>716208359
Making multiplayer work for decade old games is hard. :^(
>Proceeds to make the most asinine convoluted multiplayer system in the history of the franchise (milds)

>>716205846 (OP)
>twins
>lady knight
>amatsu
>Malzeno
I'd say it won

>>716205846 (OP)
>Base rise is obviously the most uninteresting and boring shit you have to force yourself to go through
The only MH games I have felt that way about are World and Wilds. At least Wilds is enjoyable during combat, unlike World. But it also has worse cutscene and walking segment padding. Rise is enjoyable the entire way through.

>>716209197
your kind is the reason video games are slop rn

Monster hunter is more fun with isometric camera in the cozy village and without automatic monster-tracking (tail-raiders in world and seikret in wilds). Yeah, I said what I said.

>>716208820
>waifu bait x2
>waifu bait
>powercreeped amatsu, worse version from p3rd/gu
>gore magala but generic
a man's thrash, another's treasure i guess
>>716209197
rise's entire story is ultra basic trad japanese shit, which is boring to anyone who isn't a superficial weeb. sunbreak's story is just a copy-paste from 4u's story, except with the aforementioned trad japanese shit which renders the whole thing even more uninteresting

>>716205846 (OP)
>only to get to sunbreak and it's the same shit except without the godawful forced rampages
Sunbreak expansion added companions, balanced out a lot of the weapons, added more skills (wirebug and swap skills), and a lot more.

Sunbreak genuinely has the best variations of Gunlance, SNS, DB, and IG. shame wilds threw all of that into the trash and made them all shit again. They ruined LS (even moreso than world), Swaxe, and CB though by giving them too many counters and skills that completely bypassed the weapons gimmick

swear it feels like they start from scratch every game and disregard everything they experimented with for the last game

>>716211374
>Sunbreak expansion added easy mode, diluted out a lot of the weapons, added more crutches (wirebug and swap skills), and a lot more.
i was already convinced the game was sad but ok

>>716210270
>a man's thrash, another's treasure i guess
are you describing the previous games?

>>716210270
>gore
kek
gore has been a pushover in every game except the powercrept Wilds version. Literally easiest MH flagship

>>716205846 (OP)
Easily best post GU game

>>716211490
the older games had just as many problems as the newer games. freedom unite had an atrocious monster roster, 3u had water combat and bad g rank, 4u had ledges and wystones, gu had deviant tickets, world had crutch claw, etc. the point is, some problems are arguably less bad than others. which ones those are is up to you
>>716211541
way to prove that malzeno indeed is a copy paste of gore magala
>>716211592
imo the story and world of rise is even more cringe than world but you do you

>>716211657
>imo the story and world of rise is even more cringe than world but you do you
>monster hunter story
Kek, I'm talking about the gameplay since it's a game. In rise you can skip the cutscenes and in world you're subjected to that shit every playthrough. Even worse if you want to play the story coop and everyone has to watch every mission cutscene individually before joining a collective lobby. Who designed this garbage

both this and wilds sucks but if i had to pick between the two rise is such a better fucking game

>>716211813
i didn't say that i liked world. and sure, story has never been the focus in mon hun games, but the environment/atmosphere and art style has been a core part since the very first game. rise is washed out to the core, at least world had some unique stuff going on like the coral place even though it's hyperrealistic slop.

>>716211848
>if i had to pick between a pile of shit and a pile of shit with puke on it, i'd pick the pile of shit
oh how low the standards of the average gamer has gone

>>716211941
esl-kun
>if i HAD too
it's a hypothetical

>>716211903
Style suffered but rise is unironically the most replayable in the series

>>716212003
not esl, i'm just an autist that takes hypotheticals literally
>>716212023
most replayable? i can't bring myself to do anything anymore. i'm the kind of hunter who's goal is only to hunt every monster at least once, and it took me 80 hours or so to beat primordial malzeno, whereas it took 400+ hours to even get to white fatalis in mhfu (it was painful but the journey felt more meaningful than rise ever could be)

>>716212294
>whereas it took 400+ hours to even get to white fatalis in mhfu (it was painful but the journey felt more meaningful than rise ever could be)
I didn't play fu on release but emulating it a few years back felt like pulling teeth. Combat was more about avoiding collision boxes as the monster took an hour to turn around. It was just dull. As far as old mh goes I found 3u to be much more fun, but again I think rise has the best moment to moment gameplay to actually jump in and have fun

>>716205846 (OP)
You’re brown

>>716211657
>imo the story and world of rise is even more cringe than world but you do you
WORLDSISTERS NOT LIKE THIS

>>716212583
3u would be perfect if it didn't have water combat (which isn't as bad as some other mon hun flaws) and if it had better g-rank content, but i agree it's better than freedom unite overall. but wtf do you mean 'rise has the best moment to moment gameplay'? is this just some term you heard from a youtuber that pulled it out from his ass? what even is moment to moment gameplay? just playing the fucking game? because if you mean 'rise is fun to hunt a single monster and get bored and quit for the 40th time' then yeah in that sense it has good moment to moment gameplay. like for fuck's sake, i'm autistic, i should be able to replay the same meaningless shit over and over and not care that it's going nowhere. i should be able to enjoy things for no reason, but my dumbass self needs a relevant reason to do anything in life, even though any reason i or you can come up with will feel like bullshit to me in the end. maybe i'm just projecting my own meaninglessness on other things, but i can't help but think fondly of gen 2/3/4, and can't bring myself to think anything memorable towards gen 5
>>716212620
i'm definitely whiter than the cock your wife's boyfriend took last night

>>716213085
>but i can't help but think fondly of gen 2/3/4, and can't bring myself to think anything memorable towards gen 5
That's called nostalgia, your autistic rant aside I found the actual combat and encounters fun. Mh always had good diversity between weapons but rise had some of the most fun weapons in series. No other mh has a bow as fun as this. Getting better with a weapon is satisfying and fighting the monsters is fun without any tedium which was common in earlier games. We can argue all day about all the streamlining casualization world introduced like accessing chest in a hunt but rise took those changes and built actually fun gameplay around them instead of being stuck in limbo like world. Compared to the older ones, like I said, I just prefer the feel of combat, experimentation with the switch skills. It's all very engaging.

>>716213297
idk i'll check out bow and probably quit 10 hours in after i made a build. idk how you people do it, you're like kids in a sandbox making up your own fun, repeating the same thing over and over. i'm tempted to call you and your ilk insane for that, but i feel too insane myself being unable to find reasons to do things for so long

>>716213494
>you're like kids in a sandbox making up your own fun, repeating the same thing over and over.
That's any mh in a nutshell desu.

>>716205846 (OP)
Easily the worst mh game ever made
Also flopped hard meanwhile 10k+ people still play world everyday

>>716205846 (OP)
4u and world are the only good monhun game in the series

>>716213642
no, that's not the way i've experienced mh at all. you're describing arena quests, which aren't the whole of mh at all. i see it more like a dark souls with better combat and better progression, to me the goal is to fight every monster at least once. thing is, to get to every monster, you have to craft weapons and armor to even have a chance at unlocking new monsters, and you have to do this multiple times over 3 difficulty ranges to unlock every monster. but once you've gotten the equipment, and beaten every monster once, what do you see next to do in this game? honest question, seriously. because to me, the only thing i ever did after beating every monster was to do some mindless multiplayer quests. maybe that explains why i dislike rise, because the multiplayer is so shit in that game for some reason

>>716213680
>10k+ people still play world everyday
Saying "People" when it's just SEAmonkeys who can't run milds is a bit dishonest

>>716211657
>freedom unite had an atrocious monster roster
opinion discarded

>>716213870
Even wilds has a healthy playercount unlike trashrise

>>716213864
>because the multiplayer is so shit in that game for some reason
I'm not sure what you mean, the multiplayer is the same as any other. Me and my buddy got pretty far into anomaly endgame and it was always a blast.

>>716214003
Again >>716213870

>>716205846 (OP)
The thing is, this is how I felt with World and to a lesser extent, Generations. The series was already on a downward spiral. World ruined it, Rise is just more of the same with the same twist as GU. Wilds is the game nu-MH fans deserve for eating up this slop.

>>716213914
explain how gravios, diablos/monoblos and plesioth aren't undeniably awful monsters to fight. i like their designs but they fight like absolute dickheads that practically require you to cheese them with a specific armor/weapon setup. even other monsters that aren't as bad like fatalis have their annoying quirks you have to address to be able to fight them at all
>>716214005
you have a friend, of course it works with a friend. but you can't play with randos like you could in world or even gen 3/4 games. it's unintuitive at best and just plain fucking stupid at worst

>>716214147
>you have a friend, of course it works with a friend. but you can't play with randos like you could in world or even gen 3/4 games. it's unintuitive at best and just plain fucking stupid at worst
Why would I ever play with randos in any mh. I either buddy up or I play solo

>>716205846 (OP)
It's better than both World and Wilds, so it's whatever. Not worth getting worked up about

>>716214175
because it feels good to help some random hunter with a quest they were struggling with completing or farming. again, you don't seem to care about purpose, which makes me wonder if you're underage or retarded, or maybe it's me and i'm anhedonic or something

>>716214283
>maybe it's me and i'm anhedonic or something
You disliked a game enough to make a thread about it then argue with everyone in that thread and continuously reiterate about how you might be autistic.
There is very real potential you might be autistic

>>716214438
i'm literally diagnosed with autism, and from everything you've said i'm getting the idea that neurotypical normies are just children who accept whatever slop you give them without rhyme or reason. when everyone is crazy, you're called crazy for not being crazy

>>716214147
I won't defend gravios because he's boring to fight but blos/plesioth are fine because bringing the right items makes up for the downtime that they incur. Yeah the blos twins charge too much but you make up the time wasted dodging their charges with sonic bombs to stun them. The most annoying thing about them is the football field sized hipchecks but eventually you get used to it

>>716214619
>when everyone is crazy, you're called crazy for not being crazy
That must be it

I always built my sets avoiding negative skills using athenas ass to calculate it perfectly.
I think the modern skill system is better. less hassle for the same thing.

>>716214637
idk man i refuse to hunt these pieces of shit with anything but a bowgun or bow. but then again i kinda had to cheese the entirety of g-rank with evade lancing, using guard +1 and farming mega dash juices too. every other weapon felt miserable until i got good enough gear

>>716205846 (OP)
It's somehow my most played MonHun game by at least +200hrs, beating even Frontier

I'd guess it's because it's so well optimized I can just turn it on, hunt a few investigations, then be out in a jiffy and it's all hunts all the time.
I like Wilds but the mood is different. It's more of a "relaxing sunday" sort of game where I've got plenty of time for shit to load and to loaf around mid-hunt hanging around the forest.

>>716205846 (OP)
still 1000x better than dogshit wilds

Worst bait thread yet.

I refuse to believe that there are actual people who like play rise

>>716215241
doing the same anomalies for the hundreth time just so you can have a chance of kicking primordial malzeno's ass a tiny bit faster is the most artificial grind i've ever had the displeasure of putting myself through

>>716205846 (OP)
>Everything feels meaningless, I've made two armor sets during the entirety of sunbreak and they carried me all the way to primordial malzeno
Why are you acting as though no other MH does this and is only exclusive to Rise? Even in older games like TriU and 4U I used early G Rank full sets to carry me to end game no problems. The only reason you'd make more armor than you need are for very specific builds or to look cool.

Rise/Sunbreak is the most fun I've had in a 'modern style' Monster Hunter. Combat flows good, traversing the environment is great, Palamute are way better than World's Tailriders and managed to be superior to Sekriet in every singe way. Then there's the things World and Wilds did away with, like having more than one cat, full customization over your cats, all the skills, being able to buy decorations instead of that RNG bullshit, charms being easy to obtain via melding, all the weapons and armor that can be unlocked via side missions instead of waiting for half assed event quests to come into rotation. It's a Monster Hunter Portable entry through and through, which of course it is because that's exactly what the B team does.

In general the Portable entries are the last bastion of making Monster Hunter fun and not cinematic, walking segment drivel. Which is fine by me because I prefer those entries over their 'numbered' counterparts every time because they get to the point unlike games like Tri, 4, and World. I want to go out and kill things, not be forced to listen to some overseas company's bad save the environment PR.

>I have less than a hundred hours in this game, whereas in the older games I could easily rack in multiple hundreds of hours
That sounds like a you problem. I have over 900 hours in one play through alone, then add in the two other characters I made and that time increases to over 1200 hours.

SB saved 5th gen to me

>>716205846 (OP)
it's a fun side game

>>716215693
you just said that there's no reason to make more than one armor set to carry you all the way to the end game, so how the fuck did you manage to put in 1200 hours? are you just making every single piece of armor in the game like a completionist autist? unfortunately i'm a utilitarian autist that immediately loses interest when i obtain the means to accomplish the ends, everything else after that feels hollow to me.

>>716215509
Pretty sure everyone said the same thing for 4U's relic weapons/armor as well.

>>716216142
true, and in both games you're not required to get the best relic/qurio gear to beat every monster. it's just something for turbo autists that want to over-optimize the fuck out of everything
t. low level autist apparently

>>716215368
>people who like play rise
Hello rajesh!

It has Risen Shagaru, so it's a good game in my book

>>716216226
What I will say on behalf of Sunbreak however is that you have more options in what you can fight considering 4U was everyone doing GQ 140 double Apex Rajang or Teostra with no real variation.
You didn't have to do those two but the potential relic drops would hate you.

>>716214003
I never understood why this is supposed to be come type of 'gotcha' against Rise when the game was built from the ground up to be played solo from beginning to end. You don't need motherfuckers to hunt with you or do Rampages and Anomaly quests. It's all soloable because it's a Switch game, which is a portable console, aka you're meant to be able to do everything alone becuase you can take the game with you. How fucking annoying would it be to have raids like Kulve and Saafi where you had to wait until you were at home with stable internet to be able to do? It wouldn't work. Compare that to World and Wilds, which are built for people to have to communicate with each other via SOS and raids, fights like Behemoth and Alatreon. Of course it's going to have a higher player count because those games have content that expect you to be in teams of 4.

>>716215956
>so how the fuck did you manage to put in 1200 hours?
Two reasons:
A) The game's fun.
B) I played weekly with my friends for months and we'd help each other grind monster parts, rampages, apex monsters, event quests, whatever. We didn't care, we just enjoy hunting with each other. Nowadays I'm solo which is fine since I'm burnt out at the moment anyway.

Ironically my friends and I are basically done with Wilds and 98% of us never even finished the story.

>are you just making every single piece of armor in the game like a completionist autist?
No I'm an autist that wants to outfit all his cats and dogs so he goes out of his way to abuse Meowster Hunters and trading as often as he can. Oh then there's weapons, I always make loads of weapons, even shit I'll hardly ever use because Monster Hunter weapon design is the reason I stuck around since Freedom Unite.

>>716216378
Sometimes I wish I could see how many players are still messing around with Rise on the Switch.

Rise is pretty fun, i love the combat. Hope the next mobile MH follows a similar flow.

>>716216357
theoretically you're right but in practice i'd just spam the same one monster that i find easy to hunt so that i can get faster hunt times. but grinding isn't my problem, the grind being meaningless is my problem, qurio stuff is inconsequential when you have so much op shit given away to you for free
>>716216378
>A) The game's fun.
so you really are just a kid in a sandbox. good for you i guess, but don't act surprised if other people call you simple minded.
>B) I played weekly with my friends
anything's fun with friends, but that's a luxury nowadays unfortunately
>I always make loads of weapons, even shit I'll hardly ever use
so a half-completionist autist. whatever, keep having your fun, i'm just jaded

Capcom should do a final update for sunbreak to coincide with a switch 2 edition / update. It would take a couple of months of dev from a few developers and they could just add stuff like a couple of more apexes for stuff like astalos and the crabs in the anomaly investigations / event quests. Maybe chuck in a single armour set, weapon and deco built out of the apex materials.
God knows they need some positivity right now, we're still over a year off from wilds ending

>>716217212
Capcom should update them all to do 1080p and 60fps, including generations

>>716216654
>but don't act surprised if other people call you simple minded
>man enjoying what he likes is simple minded
I'll keep that in mind when my hobby is fucking video games.
>so a half-completionist autist
>liking things that're cool to you is autistic behavior
Boy you sure are enlightening.

>>716215849
can you post the ingame version

I struggle to get into these games with how sluggish everything is

Consider Fiorayne

>>716218434
i don't understand waifufaggotry. i have seen so many characters throughout tons of different games, and not even once have i ever gotten obsessed with any single one. what is it in your brain that i don't have?

>>716218192
here you go

>>716218701
>what is it in your brain that i don't have?
A lack of autism apparently

>>716218701
you just haven't found "the one"

>>716219056
bruh i'm literally diagnosed with autism and i can't fall for waifu shit even if my life depended on it. i think it's failed normies that fall prey to fictional characters cause they're not socially disabled and need to fulfill that need when they don't have friends

>>716218701
I'm not one for waifufaggotry either, but Fiorayne felt like the complete antithesis to World's Handler that I couldn't help but like her

>>716219149
uh, excuse me but next time don't post MY wife to illustrate your statements about finding "the one"
okay, thx

>>716218434
I love her

>>716219149
that's what i'm hoping, i wish i had one thing to define my life around, it's just not happening no matter how much i look for it. i swear waifuism needs to be studied cause this shit eludes me more than the origin of the universe

>>716214079
brain dead drone. Apparently a well optimized game is bad. No wonder you eat slop just because it's new. Go eat some more 400gb+ slop games buddy

>>716219494
>Apparently a well optimized game is bad.
>wilds
Did you wonder into the wrong thread buddy

>>716219662
They were talking about Sunbreak being the well optimized game anon, not Wilds. They were very clear on that.

>>716218701
I didn't get it either and then I played pokemon SV and now I have a dedicated folder and all of her cards.

>>716216378
It also sold way more on Switch than it did on PC(about 2/3-3/4 of its sales are on Switch whereas more than half of World's sales are on PC).

>>716218701
It’s the same reason people gush over the twins. A woman that’s good looking AND can hold her own in a fight? Of course people are going to fawn over them. Then add in the fact that despite them helping you with hunts, every NPC gives you credit and considers you the driving force behind shit being done, which is the exact opposite of World and Wilds that try to force a team on you and beat you over the head that it’s you alone, but these other shmucks as well. So an attractive woman that can hunt monsters who strokes your ego every chance she gets. It’s a recipes for success.

>>716215509
No, I'm doing different anomalies because I love the thrill of special investigations.