>*completely ruins your enjoyment of video games*
>>716212637 (OP)Tell me you're a 30+ year old boomer without telling me you're a 30+ year old boomer.
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*strengthens my joints to stave off overuse injury*
>>716212807already happening to me at 24.
>>716212637 (OP)My right hand and fingers are in constant pain for three days now what do i do to fix this?
>>716212637 (OP)How do I fix this? My index finger tendons ached for two weeks recently after playing Nightreign for four days straight, too.
>>716213226>My index finger tendons ached>from playing nightreigndon't be a onions?
>>716212637 (OP)You're supposed to keep your elbow on the table.
>>716212637 (OP)>30+ yo>did really unhealthy shit in the past like play diablo for thousands of hours>hands completely fineAre you guys just weak or something? I feel like people have to be doing something fundamentally wrong. Like maybe they have poor emotional regulation and just play games mad the whole time so they're death gripping their mice and controller.
>>716212637 (OP)for me its left shoulder, cant even lift properly and cba doing xrays :(
>>716212637 (OP)>rotate right wrist>about 16 different bones in it (that's what it feels like) crack together>it's painfulWhat am I actually stuck with for the rest of my life, bros? Docs wouldn't tell me what it was.
>>716212637 (OP)what kind of a limp wristed faggot do you need to be to experience this?
>>716212637 (OP)Start excercising at least a little. Even just doing some stretches makes a difference.
>>716213614i had this issue when i was really low on vitamin D like a decade ago. cleared up after i got my levels up. the body is like a car though in that some problem can be caused by multiple things.
some people get elbow pain because their hand closing muscles are strong but their hand opening muscles are super atrophied and you can improve this by using rubberbands for resistance opening your hand up. lots of stupid things can cause arm issues.
you can even get carpal tunnel from your wrist being bent weird at night. sometimes you can wear a brace for a week when you sleep to see if it fixes it.
>>716213457>impinges your ulnar nerve and makes your 4th and 5th finger numb numb for monthsno thanks
you just need your mousepad forward enough so that a good portion of your whole wrist/forearm can be at rest.
t 50-100hr/week gamer
>>716213462>>did really unhealthy shit in the past like play diablo for thousands of hoursyou literally don't do anything while playing diablo lmao.
>>716212637 (OP)Never happened to me or anyone I know, so it's probably fake.
>>716213462Diablo is nothing.
The worst is multiplayer-FPS-faggotry
It's the reasons pros are washed up when they hit 30, not because reaction time or memes like that but because their hands are busted from wrist movement for 8 hours a day for decades.
The more you play the more your wrist suffer, especially high sense mouse settings.
FPSfaggotry is the most harmful interest to have both psychologically and physically.
Thankfully ,I've stopped before it was too late and now am a content casual
>>716213205Which fingers specifically? Generally you can overcome this by regularly doing hand/wrist exercises
>>716212637 (OP)Just get a vertical mouse bro
>>716214541>The worst is multiplayer-FPS-faggotrycheck out my wrist flick shot
>>716212637 (OP)Wrist pain? What's that?
Just don't do this and you'll be fine
>>716214554There is pain in my middle and ring finger all day and sometimes in my thumb.
After a long day even closing my hands is painful
my fingers just randomly dislocate and I have to click them back in.
it's a fun party trick now
My left wrist has been hurting for the past 2 weeks and I'm not sure what's going on. I pick up any object, even light as a feather and the pain just swells on the top and bottom.
get a tkl keyboard and lightweight mouse for maximum ergonomics
>>716215069Sounds like an issue with the median nerve. Possibly carpal tunnel. Stop whatever you're doing to destroy your wrists before you need to get surgery.
>>716212637 (OP)>>*completely ruins your enjoyment of video games*Only Diablo and StarCraft. I still play indies and slower games.
>>716212637 (OP)Stop jacking off so hard, idiot.
I finally got this (early 30s). Ironically didn't come from games but from work.
Yeah I started getting this, thankfully it was temporary and only lasted 3 months. I was starting to fear it would be permanent.
I actually think it was
>>716212876 partially because I started doing knuckle push ups instead of flat palm.
>lil bro didnt exercise
get what you deserve
>>716213505Dang my left shoulderโs messed up too. I can still move it however so itโs technically working but itโs noticeably shaky on top of the pain. Working out seems to help but I need to be careful with it.
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>>716215038How bad is it if I am putting my palms lighty on the desk with this part of the hand??
I think I have this, but it only hurts when i move my waist upward.
>>716213819>Only 3 times a weekCloset homo that one
>>716212637 (OP)I have been gaming since the NES days, had a SNES, N64, GameCube and etc. I code so I do a lot of typing, I also play PC games with the keyboard and mouse. I have never had carpal tunnel ever. The only issue I ever had was squeezing the controller too hard during rocket league matches which slowly fucks up the joysticks and makes my finger joints a little sore.
Learn to move the mouse with your fingers and not your wrist, it's not hard at all.
>>716212637 (OP)Just stop edging
>>716213819Plot twist: He's 20
>>716213462Yes, they are moving the mouse with their wrist and not their fingers.
>>716214541I've been playing FPS since Doom and Quake. Played every major FPS till 2012. Bad Company 2 was the last good FPS. I have zero hand issues. I stopped playing FPS because they were some how going backwards in progress and getting slower which is just boring.
I also played a shit ton of RTS and CRPG games. Did a lot of 3d and 2d art as well with the mouse.
Stop using your wrist to move the mouse, that's the big secret to not having pain in your hands.
>>716212637 (OP)They sell these at Walmart and other pharmaceutical companies, and they're very cheap.
I just tried to move the mouse with my wrist instead of my fingers and it's super uncomfortable. Do people actually do this for hours on end and then wonder why their hands are fucked up?
>>716218525How do you sweep the cursor from left to right without using the wrist? Vertical movements are easy enough to do by just flexing the fingers, but large sideways movements are going to use the wrist (unless they are so large you can use your entire arm)
>>716218610My mouse is very sensitive and doesn't need to move very much to go from one side of the screen to the other.
Thumb, Index and ring finger do most of the work. Middle finger is just used to right click, pinky does nothing
>>716212637 (OP)Don't worry, eye controlled mouse/thought controlled keyboard is on its way. Trust the science.
I bought mouse and keyboard cushions and never had an issue with my wrists since.
>>716212637 (OP)>completely ruins your competitiveness
I got this at 22 by using a Macbook keyboard
I did all the exercises and stretches and it never helped that much
Ironically it became less of a problem when I just started ignoring the pain, and it only comes back when I get stressed or bored at work
>>716213462i'm 36 and have never come close to having wrist pains, i used to be a turbo WoWfag too
>>716212637 (OP)If it meant there's games worth playing again, I'd gladly accept that as the monkey's paw recoil
>>716219197ironically fold some soft tshirt and put that on your mousepad and rest your wrists on that. Yes i know some have that cushy foam but do anyway for like 1 week.
I used to have chronic wrist pain too and doing this magically fixed after a while. I simply could not believe it. I don't know why, maybe a very thick layer of soft cloth is enough?
>>716212637 (OP)>*fweeeeeeeeeeeeee in your path*
How do trackpad fags not suffer? I noticed MacFags almost never use a mouse and are all in on the trackpad. Using them fucks me up but I can use a mouse all day long without any issue.
shooting pain from the right wrist to thumb last week after playing a few hours of the handheld PC (Lenovo Legion Go, terrible ergonomics on that thing)
tried to use a controller a few days later and the pain shot up my thumb again
now I might be fucked because that little gaming device that hurt me in the first place is going to be all I bring on a long trip starting tomorrow
>>716220112because they strengthen their hand by fingering themselves
>>716219564This one's worse but at least I'm used to it.
>>716212637 (OP)i only get this when i play poe 8 hours a day for a week straight
>>716221372get a set of cheap handgrippers with those flexible squeeze rings and expandable bands you can put around your fingers from Amazon or your local fitness store and do about 20 reps each before in middle and after the long marathons, it should lessen your pain and get a stronger wrist.
There is flavanol chocolate that helps bring stem cells out of your bone marrow so it rapidly works on healing the body. It needs to be the expensive, specialty chocolate otherwise the flavanols are processed out. Also, eliminate any food in your diet that causes inflammation. Sugary food and fried food for example. Seed oils cause inflammation
>>716214541It's not fps lol. It's fightan games and rts that are the kings of destroying hands. Fightan games because you legitimately need fast inputs, rts is a meme where they keep pecking away at their keyboard uselessly during the 98% of downtime.
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you dont get this problem using madcatz. better technology.
>Play vidya for 20 years
>No problems
>Start learning guitar
>Immediate wrist pain
if you got to this point you deserve it for not having other fucking hobbies and shit to do with your life.
>>716212637 (OP)Can't relate, I'm not some 30 years old + fossil.
>>716222332lol hit the gym and do deadlifts and upright rows you girl wristed fag. You should generally start up with 30 minutes a day routine not longer for instruments and then gradually build up time you spend on them.
>>716215339Sounds like you strained your pussy. You should probably ice it little lady.
A majority of you don't lift or do any hard work. So yout body atrophy.
Get pic related to start with. This is a good rehab tool, allows for bloodflow to rush through the damaged area, wrist.
Make sure to use arm rests that allow your shoulders to remain neutral and relaxed and to make the lower arm/elbow take the weight of the arm rather than wrist.
Lool for adjustable arm rests on amazon, they helped me the most.
Start lifting, focus on your posture first for longevity. Do not be a retard and do deadlifts.
Know that you will damage your body and that you need recovery through rest and diet. Only through this will you progress.
Make it a hobby, research, be enthusiastic upon improving yourself.
Do you retards actually jerk off with your gaming hand?
>>716222616Oh shit, I forgot I had one of those as a kid. The physics of these are pretty cool.
>>716219564What does it mean when you randomly get this? It isn't constant but like once every 5-6 months, I'll randomly get that ringing sound. Also, once every 7-8 months I'll get that weird tv static sound...you know when someone turns a tv on and it's just that white snow....like you can't hear it, but you can hear it? Like it's such a low frequency but even when it happens in another room you can just "hear it"? I'll get that every now and then again too. It's so fucking weird.
>>716222616This. I always had physical labor jobs so I never worked out. Now I have a partial office job and going to the gym or riding a bicycle has helped me stay in shape. I just do the light, bowflex tier shit. The deadlift/loose weight section looks faginfested
>>716212637 (OP)>get sharp pain on my wrist randomly while drawing>less than 30yobeyond over for me isn't it
>>716222616>>716222459Why do people recommend deadlifts for beginners? Most of people, especially anons here, don't have strong enough muscles to do them correctly and probably will have fucked up form doing them which can even herniate someone's spine in worst case scenario
Also I prefer combo of nordic curls and reverse hypers
>>716223031Its not for legs anon, not this time, just casual deadlifts to learn the form and improve the grip on the guitar, upright rows would be great as well alone for that for upper body work as well as basic curls. The issue the anon is having is with weak grip in uncomfortable position on the guitar which is the same grip you use for deadlift.
>>716222759Really fun, everyone should get their parents one.
>>716222862Most people just need maintenance exercise.
>>716223031Roiders. Since deadlifting is a compound movement, and roids just makes every muscle in the body grow, it's an easy one go do.
But their muscles outgrow their tendons and joints, resulting in bad injuries.
You can do deadlifts once you have the overall strength and toughness to do it, this can mean years depending on your age and bodily health.
>>716214738i tried an expensive version of these and it was shit
>>716223370Dude just start with light deadlifts and do them occasionally as a natty, there's nothing wrong with it. x2 a week max, also commando pull ups for mixed grip pulling and grip strength.
start eating species appropriate diet (raw meat)
>>716223632Fuck off liver king lol, just cook your food and eat it whole, that being said, you can cook some foods with blood such as blood pancakes, shit's delicious with some jam..
>>716223632gigameme
the only reason we could afford all the energy to put ourselves to work into becoming the dominant species of the planet and making civilization and shit is cooking
eating raw is like devolving
>>716212637 (OP)Nearly 40 and still never had an issue with wrist pain except maybe back in the overnight WOW days when I would pull 24-48 hour shifts, but I would also normally drink so wouldn't be major pain.
>>716223836Yeah cooking the whole animal, preserving (pickling) foods and making jams with berries... That's how we survived through cold winters.
>>716223358Ah, I see. I never really thought about that this way. Thanks for clarifying!
>>716223370I never understood roiders and people doing stuff for *looks* in general. Why do you want muscles without strength that usually goes with them?
I remember once getting kicked in the chest by roider who was buffed as hell but felt like getting slapped by a little kid.
>>716224149Its like wanting the denim that's rough cut without actually wearing and tearing through them yourself. All fluff and no actual content.
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Myofascial release
Lay on mattress face up, with your head on the corner
Like your on a rollercoaster, but lying down, extend both your arms so that they are hanging off the bed
Let gravity do its thing
Don't move. Hold for 5 minutes
>>716212637 (OP)Just don't be a built like a fucking twig.
>>716213462>been playing games all my youth>been playing PoE for over 5000 hours now>been wanking every day like crazy>nothing wrong with my wristI'm pretty sure most of the people complaining about this are literally limp-wristed faggots
>>716224575they never worked their hands on anything heavier than the console or computer they are playing on.
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Your bones and joints are made of water. Science is behind on this. Just drink a lot of bottled water and avoid tap, which is cancerous poison and used for food. Avoid food with tap water.
>>716222971you can fix it. i started following some of the tips in this very thread and already feel better. i was able to browse and game for about an hour without my wrist wrap. just have to adjust my posture and probably strengthen my wrist at the gym and i think ill be ok.
>>716225178>muh tap water>drinks from a plastic bottle
>>716225178i don't live in the third world so my tap water is potable
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>>716212637 (OP)>Developed cubital tunnel syndrome because i play video games all day while resting my elbow on the hard arm rest of my chairMy pinky finger is numb because of this shit.
>>716225178Tap water is fine depending on the country though I still prefer mineral water. I drink 2-3 of 1,5l bottles depending on temperature and if I am donating blood that day or not
>>716224575I used to say the same shit about my bad posture till i developed 2 herniated disk + cubital tunnel syndrome at the same time 1 month ago ( I'm 33 yrs old btw ).
Dont worry, if you keep up with your bad habits your body will start crumbling down eventually.
>>716225830Tap water is pretty bad in most parts of Europe, you can do a test with bottled vs tap water, add some sugar to the bottom of the glass and see if it changes the taste or consistency, it should be like liquid and taste much sweeter if with the bottled water is natural instead of being janky and you can sort of feel the texture being off with the sugar included because it didn't blend in well enough. You know which water you should drink based on this level of quality.
>>716226036>retarded microplasticed leadpoisoned polfag posts broscience shit*yawn*
>>716225978Fixing my posture helped my sciatica from a car accident. I would get a few weeks of pain every year in my hip and it would radiate down my leg. Now itโs gone mostly
>>716222763changes in EM field, beware the wifi spots and shit
>>716225596i have the same shit, fortunately the surgery is quite simple
>>716226170> Continues to damage their own braincells cries someone is presenting proof of their retardation in a manner that can be proven over and over again.You are dumb bro, its a simple fucking test. Sugar should mix and blend well just by filling the cup or glass with water, it shouldn't float in it. If it does, the floating is caused because the water has so much other shit in it can't liquidate that sugar like it should.
>>716226036Anon how the fuck unmixed sugar will change the taste or consistency of the water?
>>716226356Its hard to explain but you can run the experiment yourself to get it. It might not mix in well but it does make the "dirty water" more "sweeter" thus making it taste more like regular water due to the other inconsistencies don't get brought to your taste buds because of the sugar sweetening the deal.
>>716212807You'll be 30 one day too, zoomer. And you'll still be here as well.
>>716212637 (OP)The only time I started getting consistent wrist pain was when I was playing World of Tanks a lot years ago and was finally getting to purple stats.
But 99.9% of the time I've never had that issue.
It helps also to do some exercise and get proper rest and recovery. You don't even have to weight lift or anything.
Just play things like basketball, tennis, and so on. Strengthen the arms and wrists and put good food in yourself and get some proper sleep.
If you're playing tournaments of whatever game or playing competitively or near-competitively with pros like I was doing for long hours at a time, then yeah without real exercise and rest, you might not have sufficient strength while overexposing it to the same movements.
>>716226036>Tap water is pretty bad in most parts of EuropeNo, the water is fine. Your pipes are not.
>>716226437I did it with tap water and 3 other brand of water bottles and I didn't feel any difference. You are retarded and I am retarded for listening to this shit and wasting my sugar
>>716226996My taste buds are just sensitive though that being said, normies won't probably feel a difference.
>>716226774Could explain.
>>716225596Happened to me because of work. Need muh disability
I have a coworker that had carpal tunnel surgery and she's been out for like 6 months, GIWTWM
>>716225830>1,5l>mineral waterI'm getting German vibes from this fella
Haven't encountered any wrist pain yet but entering my 30s it probably isnt much further away. Mentally preparing for it.
>>716227063Don't you care call me a normalfag you faggot, I have very sensitive taste buds and smell sense
>>716226774Pretty much this
>>716227168Almost, just a little bit to the east
I test my water by rolling onto my back and sticking my feet against the wall so my ass is up in the air. I then pour the water in question into my asshole utilizing a funnel. not too much just a little bit. My body then "analyzes" it and i can just "sense" if the water is good or not. sometimes i can sense that its really bad so i quickly roll forward into a somersault and push it out. this has never failed me though. dont let it sit for more than 30 seconds or so if there is any bacteria in it you can absorb it through you ass.
>>716227339No you don't if you don't taste the difference between water sources lmao.
>at work
>sneeze and get neck and upper back pain for like 6 months now with coming and going tingling and numbness in my hands and arms
>see a doctor and they are pretty much unconcerned and recommend me PT which is just gym exercises targeted to old people and the disabled. The PT doesn't really help either
I'm 26, 26 is young!
>>716227493I can tell the fucking difference between taste of different water brands and tap water, I just don't feel much difference or whatever the fuck you are describing after putting sugar in
>>716216003im on the end of month 1 trying to recover from an ulnar nerve mouse overuse injury. had it before and it healed fine in like 2 months so hopefully it's not here to stay. chronic pain in the other (left) hand though since 2018. i also actually believe shit like
>>716212876 made it worse cause i started doing pushups to help strengthen my wrists and arms but either i had shit form or it's just not good if you've already been injured in the past cause after 3 days of doing it i got the injury.
>>716214554doing the wrong hand exercises or too much if them can be a negative too. i've tried almost any hand stretch i've been recommended for my ulnar nerve pain and it's always resulted in the inflammtion flaring up and getting worse. rest is the best medicine for most cases.
>>716222332that's because guitar uses parts of your wrist that you've probably never used before
once you get into a habit of practicing every day and learn proper form and how much pressure it takes to form chords and notes you wont have any pain
>>716213819bad genetics coupled with poor posture and/or wrist-only mouse movement for 10+ hours a day will do that to you. also most mice are absolute dogshit these days. totally recommend getting an ergonomic mouse for people out there having wrist issues. i love my zowie EC1-DW
With gyro aim becoming popular expect a higher proportion of gamers to experience this in the coming years.
>>716225830how is getting microplastic from bottles any better retard
>>716212807boomers are 60+ retard
for me its my elbow cause i lean on it too much
>>716228098There are no such things as microplastics. Stop believing trannies with degrees.
>>716228098So much shit is packed in plastic that drinking tap water instead of bottled one won't made any big difference
>>716228260What about straight white males with degrees?
>>716219564I used to have the type of tinnitus that would make me want to launch myself off a roof. I couldn't even hear people.
A cacophony of 10 sounds fucking my shit up without a single second pause. Gradually, i worked on it and 2 years later there are only like 2 maybe 3 soft sounds left. Glad i don't have to kill myself now.