>>716221968 (OP)
good

I want to help Asgore win custody.

Toriel wanted it though

>Asgore fucks Rudy
>Asgore fucks Carol
>Asriel fucked December
>Kris got raped by December
>Kris rapes Noelle
<Toriel fucks..... Sans Undertale
Toriel doesn't belong in the Dreemurr familiy

>>716222068
She was drunk and Sans was not - that's rape. Coercion at least.

>>716222169
She invited him to drink therefore she wanted it

>sans Undertale bones Toriel in Undertale
>Silence
>Sans deltarune bones Toriel in deltarune
>KRIS BE A GOOD DOG AND CUT OFF HIS BALLS
why

>>716222238
Doesn't matter, statutory rape. Sans is a rapist. Honestly gotta hand it to Toby making his meme character objectively irredeemable.

>>716222279
Having sex with a single mother while the kid is there is a cringe deadbeat loser thing to do.

>>716222279
Context. Undertale Toriel has been divorced for centuries and barely knows Frisk, so her hooking up with Sans isn't bad. Deltarune Toriel is very recently divorced and is Kris' mother, so her hooking up with Sans is deeply uncomfortable and paints Sans as invading Kris' home.

>>716221968 (OP)
Feels good to have always preferred the superior baker

>>716222279
Sans is extra mean in Deltarune for some reason

>>716222706
>"i don't know what you're getting so upset about, kid. it's not like she's your real mom."

>>716222279
>sans Undertale bones Toriel in Undertale
Because this never happened

>>716222279
In Undertale, Frisk barely knew Toriel and doesn't have to be her child, and Sans is nice to the kid and sees her as a friend. Asgore is a child murderer and her kids are dead, so Toriel moving on feels like a good thing for her.
In Deltarune, Toriel is Kris's mother and recently divorced. Her kids are alive so the audience wants the family to get back together, we don't know why she hates Asgore, too. Sans is also antagonistic to Kris's.
Toby is a master at making you feel different by simply changing the point of view and context.

>>716223143
Sans is a cunt, but Asgore is a loser. Honestly Toriel is also a shit mom too, no wonder Asriel never comes home.

>>716222279
People deeply identity with Kris for some dumbass reason. The shirt description isn't a one way street.

>>716223248
>Sans is a cunt
...to Kris. Sans is nice to people he likes (Papyrus, Toriel, Frisk) while a jerk to people he has a problem with like Flowey or Kris.

So what was Kris’ relationship with Dess like?

>>716222673

>Been saying for years that Soriel is fucking awful because Sans is a coward that doesn't deserve to win Toriel over with some stupid puns while being someone who is willing to watch her, his brother and all of his friends get killed.
>People say I'm mischaracterizing him and that he's actually cool
>Now all of a sudden everyone is saying Soriel is fucking awful because "hurhurhur" he took advantage of Toriel

Sans as ALWAYS been a character that takes the easy way out. Of course the fucker is willing to sneak in on a torn family and pound goat pussy but the second he or Toriel is threatened he wouldn't be seen until he literally has no choice.

I think Sans is chill but he's one of the only characters that doesn't deserve the happy ending he's given.

>>716223654
Dess touched Kris

>>716222279
toriel wasn't frisk's mom

>>716224152
To be fair, Sans is only a coward because of his nihilism plus promise. We don't actually know if he will be willing to fight or not in a setting like Deltarune.

The Knight got nerfed
From today onwards, you never will beat the game

>>716223654
probably positive if tenna is anything to go by
there's the implication that a number of kris' traits are just him being inspired by dess, like playing piano and eating moss

>>716224152
Sans probably knew about the church fountain and did what he did to keep Toriel from going there.

Also there's a possibility he didn't know about Toriel's battle with Frisk. He absolutely could have and really should have stepped in when it comes to his brother but supposedly he wasn't going to do anything due to his promise to Toriel.

The knight is Susie
Blue Kris is not Kris
Kris and the soul are separated in the dark world, that is why Blue Kris never opposed the soul in dark worlds.
Ch1 will be explored again, but next time the soul will shine brighter, showing the true layout.
Dark fountains don't create anything, they simply act as windows through dimensions.
Darkners are real, just too dark to be normally seen by lightners.
Gaster awaits within several layers of dark, you will have to open a fountain in a fountain in a fountain to meet him.
Papyrus is a goner, Sans knows, he is trying to get closer to Kris through Toriel.

>>716223468
Given context, Sans has absolutely no reason to have a problem with Kris. He's spoken to Kris like three times, he barely knows the kid.

>>716223654

>KRIS! I'M GOING TO KILL YOU! IN YOUR ROOM IN HOMETOWN!
>In The Dark World?
>NO IN THE LIGHT WORLD!
>*Megalo Strike Back plays*

>>716224469
People always say this but what gets me is the idea that you can kill literally everyone but Jerry and it wouldn't count as a genocide ending. Sans will willingly let you go if you do this. This would be fine except Sans does not know or even tries to convince you to fix everything. He just tells you to never come back.

Meaning Sans is fine with this being a "true" ending which I always found despicable no matter how fucking depressed he is.

I accept that might be wrong but that's always been the impression he's left upon me and so Soriel has always left a bad impression in my mouth. It's like someone watching you fuck from the cuck chair but getting to ejaculate inside at the end. He doesn't deserve it.

>>716223468
he also needlessly antagonizes susie in ch4
there's no reason for him to do that, unless he just is because she's friends with kris
which makes him a douche

>>716224869
Where do I go to find more kris x Dess? Not specifically porn content but stuff like then kissing and Dess telling Kris not to tell anyone.

>>716224627
>FRIEND is Kris's hand
>its five legs are actually fingers
>its the "long hand" queen refers to when talking about the fountain creation

>>716224869
So do monster supremacists like their own "race" of monsters the best or all for general monster supremacy

>>716224976
probably canon to Snowgrave

>>716225138
Probably /trash/
You'll know where when you see it

>>716224845
I am sure Sans knows about Kris and the Knight's shenanigans. He was the most alert monster in Undertale, I doubt Toby will keep him ignorant in this game.

>>716224789
>Blue Kris is not Kris
>Kris and the soul are separated in the dark world
Cool theory.

>>716224789
cool theory but Ockham's razor

>>716225396
Occam's Razor isn't reliable in fiction since fiction has an incentive to not make things as simple as they seem.

>>716223143
>Sans is nice to the kid and sees her as a friend
Sans is fake nice so the god tormenting their timeline can fuck off, DR is just him with the mask off

>>716224992
Because Sans only steps in when the world is about to be destroyed. About him telling you to "never come back" I assume it's because he doesn't see a new timeline Sans as "himself" anymore. That's why he tells you to not tell the "other" Sanses about you never being his friend, too.
>>716225003
He doesn't antagonize Susie, he just pranks her. The Chapter 4 stuff is at the level of selling Fried Snow for 50000 G or putting hotdogs in Frisk's head. It's just that Susie doesn't like jokesters in general.

>>716225541
He's still friends with the cast and the kid even post player. He keeps a photo of everyone in his lab, together with the photo-album of all his former friends. Also, the alarm clock dialogue, too.

>>716225242
Alright I've got

Noelle Holiday General
Deltarune & Undertale Females
Krusie General
and anthro females dominating human males.

You better be right about this anon. There's way too much fucking NTR and interacial on that board this better be worth it.

>>716225541
it's not his fault he doesn't know how to tell adult and children humans apart

>>716225928
I didn't like Sans after this scene. Very passive aggressive