The dumbest, most entitled faggots to ever roam the earth. They're the only segment of consumers that refuse to acknowledge inflation exists. They wind up paying for it in microtransactions, battle passes, ads and other such bullshit but refuse to acknowledge the relationship. Even when Nintendo is the one company to not engage in these practices and also happens to be the one company that sells every game at full-price and never lower prices; they still refuse to acknowledge it. They insist growth will pay for rising costs despite all data revealing console growth stagnated since lastgen and overall growth (including mobile) has stagnated since covid. This is made further obvious by all the layoffs, cancellations, and aggressive cost cutting measures we're witnessing.

I didn't work my way into a six figure software dev job so I could afford high-end gaming just to watch the entire fucking industry collapse because you whiny faggots piss and shit yourself whenever you're expected to pay what things actually cost.
>I don't think it's worth the price
THEN JUST DON'T FUCKING BUY IT LIKE EVERY OTHER CONSUMER DOES WHEN THEY DON'T WANT SOMETHING. This whole consumer rights campaign bitchfest just paradoxically reveals that you DO want the product, you're just mad that you're being asked to pay the real cost. The fact that games worth $80+ can't exist because sour grapes NEETS living off welfare throw a fucking fit just means investors will never fund a more ambitious project even if people like me would be interested in paying a higher price for a better game.

nice blog faggot

>>716241886
>can't read two paragraphs of text

>>716241842 (OP)
Making shit that costs a price consumers think is reasonable is a 'you' problem, faggot.

>>716241842 (OP)
>THEN JUST DON'T FUCKING BUY IT
Will do

>>716241936
>troondocks poster
stopped reading there

>vote with my wallet
>99% of consumers follow suit
>doesn't matter because the 1% of whales give them more money than the rest of the community combined
>enshitification continues

>>716241842 (OP)
>THEN JUST DON'T FUCKING BUY IT
ummm sweaty, that's economic terrorism!

>>716241936
Can't and won't are very different things. Your words have zero worth to me and your taste in movies is shit.

>>716241842 (OP)
>Even when Nintendo is the one company to not engage in these practices
stopped reading, shit bait tendie

I just want to rape large publishers bigly. Didn't read btw.

>do nothing
>win
Man i'm so fucking good.

>>716241990
Gamers are seemingly the only consumers who think shit should just never go up in price. I think it's because gaming is a unique consumer electronics industry that experienced a massive amount of market growth/tech innovation in the 90s-10s and it's conditioned gamers to always expect those trends to continue even though it was an artifact of an early growth phase.

The downstream consequences of those sticky expectations is that gaming is increasingly dominated by free2play gacha shit and lacking in innovation since investors won't fund ambitious projects as they won't see appropriate returns because the price ceiling is arbitrarily capped. Obviously a game that's literally The Matrix should cost much more than $80 to see returns on its investment and I would happily pay those returns for such an incredible experience.

>but what if the $100 game is mediocre
Then just don't fucking buy it. There are lots of products I consider a waste of money. I don't go on a moral crusade every fucking time because I'm not a sour grapes faggot that thinks I am personally entitled to purchase every single product ever released.

not reading

>>716243282
>Gamers are seemingly the only consumers who think shit should just never go up in price.
Kill yourself gamedev shill. They already get far more money will all their pre-ordre bullshit, DLCs, "micro"-transactions and what not. Its also not my problem if they bloat their game with all the GRAPHICS instead of making it actually fun to play.
Stop sucking so much dick you nigger holy shit.

>>716243282
>increasingly dominated by free2play gacha shit
Never touched one of those, never will. Not my fault if actual subhumans engage in literal gambling games.
Also unironically kill yourself shill.

>>716243562
>>716243819
>They already get far more money will all their pre-ordre bullshit, DLCs, "micro"-transactions and what not.
That's exactly my point. I hate this bullshit and refuse to engage with it. The reason it happens is because gamedev expenses keep going up but gamers refuse to pay higher upfront prices.

>Its also not my problem if they bloat their game with all the GRAPHICS instead of making it actually fun to play.
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT CONSUMERS PAY FOR YOU DENALIST FAGGOT. I agree, I would rather seen innovative gameplay than hyper realistic graphics. But if you want that, you need to be prepared to pay enough that catering to your niche is worthwhile.

Gamers are like cranky old people who underpay for home renovations and then complain that the contractors did a shitty job. They would rather repeat the endless cycle of paying shit for shit work and then complaining about it than shell out for once in their goddamn lives and finally get actually good service they wanted. You can't pay people in complaints, retard.

>>716244527
>The reason it happens is because gamedev expenses keep going up
Not my problem if they fuck themselves over with AAAA+ budget that ends up being a bloated piece of shit.
>BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT CONSUMERS PAY FOR YOU DENALIST FAGGOT. I agree, I would rather seen innovative gameplay than hyper realistic graphics. But if you want that, you need to be prepared to pay enough that catering to your niche is worthwhile.
Expedition 33 is an amazing game and its only 50 bucks. Helldivers 2 is an amazing game and is only 40 bucks and if you're a cheap fuck you can just pretty easily grind the premium money and never put a single cent in the game ever again.
Its definitely not my fault is big studios are retarded cunts with an insane bloated structure paying out of the ass for subpar work. There's plenty of good games that didn't cost millions to make that are succesful. I'm not buying your bullshit. They're just greedy.

>>716244527
What you forget, you cunt, is that video games have never been this accessible before, and have a way bigger playerbase. They don't need to jack up the prices because they're selling more than ever before, AND its mostly digital too, meaning lowering the costs once more. Fuck off.

>>716241842 (OP)
>muh inflation
Cool, when am I getting a raise?

>>716241842 (OP)
Cry me a river
Fire more rainbow hairs and more middle management bloat. Indiscriminately. Put all these worthless fucks names in a roulette and make them spin it once everyday, put the fear of god on the useless leeches
Pay a single competent dev instead of 20 indian chatgpt prompters
I wont buy your overpriced mario kart and I will also call out how many dicks you suck for paying 90 bucks+tip for it
Simmer in your impotent rage as the job you thought secure gets culled
Gamedev is the only sector where the stupid fucks on the provider's side shit, yell, gaslight and manipulate to get the consumer to adapt to their needs and not the other way around, get the rope nigger

Absolute shabbos goy mindset.
>They're the only segment of consumers that refuse to acknowledge inflation exists
This is all I'm going to bother to read, because it tells me everything I need to know about your post. Inflation exists, everyone knows this, but the core consumer—that is, people who typically discuss games and are slightly less inclined to buy thing solely because it's the new thing—has no reason to pay more for said games. AAA devs are slowly discovering what indies already figured out accidentally: the difficulty or cost of doing business does not directly translate to consumer value. I do not care that gamedev is more expensive, because all of that money is not going to aspects of games I care about (QA, extra content, new ideas), if a product becomes more expensive than I'm willing to pay for, I'm not paying for it. It's really that simple.
>Food analogy
I kind of like eggs on a rare occasion. Eggs are super expensive right now. The solution? I don't buy eggs.

>>716243282
>muh investors
Topple and collapse you fucking retard, death to large corpos
Have you ever head of indies? these are the ones with enough power over their own fucking craft to be able to choose to take risks or not before passing a proposal to a committee, these people seem to be making a big fucking killing lately without even needing to get anywhere close to the target conditioned price of 100 bucks+dlc
If you dont want to lose control over your business dont sell its rights to faceless fucks whose one and only concern is why the fuck is the line not going up
Do yourself a favor and deepthroat a shotgun

>>716244825
>>716244979
>have a way bigger playerbase
>they're selling more than ever before
NO THEY FUCKING DON'T: https://www.matthewball.co/all/stateofvideogaming2025

As I said in the original post, console growth has been stagnant for 10 years. PC has grown only slightly. All the growth was funded by mobile freemium games. And in the last 3 years since covid even THAT growth has disappeared and the entire industry is stagnant. Why THE FUCK do you think there's so many layoffs/cancellations recently. There is no more player growth. Gamers just live in denial.

>Expedition 33 is an amazing game and its only 50 bucks
It is an amazing game, but not exactly a marvel of game engineering. It's just a well-directed JRPG with a rhythm component. The best engineers capable of making innovative projects primarily only work for AAAA studios that can bankroll their salaries. And the reason those projects wind up being so bloated is because, as I keep stressing, the market is stagnating. Studios are increasingly bloating games to appeal to every conceivable demographic because they can't fund themselves otherwise because whiny consumer hard cap the price ceiling.

>>716245136
>Cool, when am I getting a raise?
You should be. I've been getting raises every year of my career. If you're not getting consistent raises, it's because your employer is screwing you over and you should be looking for a new job.

>>716246510
>muh indies
The vast VAST majority of indies go bankrupt. They're having funding issues even worse than AAA. Again, you are just ignorant and in total denial.

>>716241842 (OP)
Microsoft games went back to $70. This disproves your argument. Nintendo charging $80 is because they have a cult who would be willing to pay $100 for a game.

>>716246675
>They're having funding issues
And guess what brand of reality check are 3A slopchurners are trying to run away from too, turns out their revenue wasnt granted either
Welcome to the frontlines motherfucker, fight for your life, just like everyone else is doing, you wipe your own ass

>>716241842 (OP)
>Inflation
Just print more money.

>>716245829
>>716246436
>>716247076
You retards have no fucking clue. Do you know why AAA games have so much content bloat? Because that stuff only requires artists to make all those assets. In other words, cheaper employees because they have fewer career prospects. Bespoke gameplay and innovative systems requires talented engineers. And talented engineers are abandoning the industry because they can make literally double or even triple the salary working on basically anything else. Why do you think I--a software dev who loves gaming--don't work in game dev? Because I make way more money on enterprise software.

>>716247724
Boo fucking hoo, honeymoon period is over and for some unexplainable reason the line doesnt go up as hard anymore, welcome to the mortal realm, its sink or swim here and choices tend to fucking matter, like paying for bloat instead of the people that actually get shit done
Ask any old coot about construction, they used to say it was a prestigious job that was very well paid and people actually strived and wanted to work it, now wages and work conditions are shit and everyone's doing other jobs instead, know what's the problem here? That's right, it's the kids nowaday that dont want to fucking work anymore and would rather do easy jobs like gamedev
It's always someone else's fault, never mine, woe is me
Go down a gallon of bleach, nigger

>>716247724
I don't give a rat's ass. I want it to burn down.

>>716241842 (OP)
What makes you think accepting a higher price tag would lead to better games? History has shown that as budgets increase projects become more risk averse, not less.

>>716243282
>Then just don't fucking buy it.
That's exactly what I'm doing. Now what's the point of this thread?

>>716247724
Okay but I don't really care.

>sell a shitty overpriced product nobody asked for
>nobody buys it
>”NOOOOO YOU GAMERS ARE SO HECKIN UNGRATEFUL”
Make a good game or go fuck yourself. Whatever works best for you

>>716250007
A brainwashed retard is crying and thought he could epically blame others for being his own shortcomings
But once again he's getting a reality check, which he will deny because everyone except him is wrong

>>716247724
For someone that parades himself as Mr..Big Software Dev, a job that presumably requires problem solving, you have a surprisingly reductive mindset. Just throwing money at publishers won't magically lead to making games great again

I agree that Gamers are utterly contemptible dumbfucks, but that does not change the fact that games are not worth $70, let alone $80 or even more. It's not my problem production costs have ballooned to the point where games need to sell 10 million+ to break even at normal retail price. I never asked for half the stupid bloat they put into modern games anyway.

And no, I don't buy AAA games at full price, I haven't for almost 15 years. I wait til they're at minimum 50% off on sale, or I pirate them. It doesn't make a difference though because as I started this post with, gamers as a class are utterly retarded dipshits incapable of taking a coherent stand for anything. The only time any group of gamers has ever achieved anything is when they formed a relatively tight-night group of dedicated people set of achievable goals to effect outsized influence on the industry. Influence campaigns among gamers simply do not work because the average gamer is below 80 IQ and a complete simpleton with no moral values whatsoever.

>>716250507
Most modern enterprise software jobs are just building basic CRUD software.

>>716241842 (OP)
Roblox

>>716250507
Spare him a break, he probably worked at blizzard too

I'd pay more in exchange for complete and total removal of DEI.

>>716241842 (OP)
>Nintendo is the one company to not engage in these practices.
So you're an uninformed tenie, their phone games had those practices and their current Pokemon card game does it. Retard.

>>716243282
Does the revenue reach developers or investors/shareholders/CEOs? Do those developers keep their job for more than 1-2 dev cycles?
If your only defense is for infinite growth and pleasing investors, you just made the biggest argument for why Capitalism is shit.

>>>The customer doesn't want feminist roasties, fags and niggers in their products and doesn't want to be preached at by said product
>REEEEEEEEEE, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU!?! WHY DIDN'T YOU BUY THE GAAAAAME!?! YOU FUCKING RACIST PIECE OF SHIT, THIS IS YOUR FAULT!!!

When did "the customer is always right" finally die?

>>716241842 (OP)
>>716243282
Here's a thought, faggot, maybe they don't need to hire 150+ people to make shit that is worse than previous games they made with only 50 people. Maybe they don't need to spend 200 million dollars on games that are worse than the games they made just 10 years ago for less than 70 million dollars. Maybe inflation isn't the fucking problem, and video game consumers are smart enough to realize, even if only subconsciously, that they shouldn't be paying for shit spending practices resulting in inferior products by dumbass companies who think, "Oh shit, the development teams are larger, that means they inherently are producing more value!"

Lmao this faggot shill is having a meltdown

Video games are not a commodity they are an art and should be made free publicly for society

>>716249170
>line doesnt go up
You've never invested in anything in your life, have you? Why would I give my money for someone else to spend if I'm not going to get anything in return? Break-even isn't good enough. Even a basic ass savings account has a better return than that. So yes, if I give you my money to make a game, I expect to see "line go up" or else why the fuck would I give you money?

>Ask any old coot about construction, they used to say it was a prestigious job that was very well paid
>people actually strived and wanted to work it
Anon, I have friends who used to work construction. I myself worked in a factory as a summer job while attending college. My mom volunteers in immigrant services--i.e. the people who currently do most of the construction/manufacturing--and constantly directs people my way because they're desperate to know how to find better work. These jobs suck. Everyone used to acknowledge they sucked (look at older movies like October Sky). But we're so far removed from most people actually working in manual labor, that we've lost that cultural memory.

Westoid studios need 8 years, thousands of staff and 200 million dollars to make games that end up cancelled anyway, yet Falcom can release a 100+ hour game yearly without issue.
Curious!

>>716251452
>video game consumers are smart
They're definitely not. Compare /v/ to any other fucking board and that much becomes obvious.

>>716241842 (OP)
Tldr

>>716251225
>Does the revenue reach developers or investors/shareholders/CEOs?
You don't understand how businesses work. The developers are salaried employees. They get paid throughout the entire duration of the project regardless of whether it sells well or poorly. They get paid all the while the studio is making zero dollars because the game hasn't released yet.

The investor/shareholders are the ones footing the bill for all of this. They willingly hand over their money to keep all these devs employed. They're the ones who collect the profits because it was their ass on the line. That's how investment works. I give you money now with the promise that you'll give me more money back at a later date.

>CEO
Are just another employee with a higher salary to compensate their increased responsibility. Investors have every incentive to fire and replace them if they're not doing a good job.

Make a game I would want and I'll buy it.
If you can't, I won't. Very basic economics.

>>716244527
Do movie ticket prices keep going up?
Do music prices?

>>716252075
>Why would I give my money for someone else to spend if I'm not going to get anything in return
Exactly, investors should get the rope, by their very nature their only investment is financial and they dont give a rat's ass on the wellbeing of their own investment as long as they can milk their cow down to the bone marrow, and who would've guessed that selling your rights to people like these is short sighted at best
>esperate to know how to find better work. These jobs suck. Everyone used to acknowledge they sucked
That's the whole fucking point you fucking moron, the job was ass but the pay was enough to make up for it and make people want to stay
How is someone as grandiose as sir software developer this illiterate and short sighted

>>716241842 (OP)
>Muh vote with your wallet
Colossally retarded. Imagine if you were voting on something and the only choices were Yes(This can be done as many times as your wallet allows) and abstain.

>>716241842 (OP)
>sure do love video games
>man the economy sucks right now, maybe I shouldn't buy that $60 game and pay my bills first
>oh it's $80 now? Guess I'll wait for it to go on sale in a few years
>for now, I guess I'll play something from my backlog
>tons of cheap or free games are there, and they don't spit in my face for daring to be born wrong
>your $80 game isn't even worth pirating anymore, I know it won't be as fun as Bayonetta
>tfw I make modern devs seethe by doing nothing
man it feels good to be a gamer

I hate normalfags and faggots

>>716241842 (OP)
No, we live inside an industry that is actively being taken over by people whose idea of a job is "shareholder".

>>716241842 (OP)
boo hoo keep crying nigger

>>716241842 (OP)

>>716241886
/thread

Nice blog faggot but I'm not paying anything past 60 bucks

>>716241842 (OP)
>Don't buy it if you don't want it
That's precisely what I do, though. Turns out, 1,000,000 people's $40 is more money in returns than 50,000 people's $100. But being a big brained software dev making three figures, it'd be absurd to assume you didn't know this, right...?

/v/:
>gamers are subhumans goycattle
/v/ when someone calls them subhuman goycattle:
>um no we aren't we're actually based

>>716241842 (OP)
Total game industry death. I will celebrate your suffering.

>>716253015
The reason I make more money than you is because I'm not an economically illiterate retard. In every conceivable society, I will always wind up in a higher status role because my skills are simply worth more than yours.

>>716241842 (OP)
I only read your first sentence but yes I entirely agree with you

>>716241842 (OP)
>THEN JUST DON'T FUCKING BUY IT
but when I do that you call me a racist sexist homophobic transphobic alt-right nazi

Samefagging is fucking cringe op.

>>716253981
you're retarded

>>716253981
>Ad hominem
lol

They targeted gamers.

Gamers.

We're a group of people who will sit for hours, days, even weeks on end performing some of the hardest, most mentally demanding tasks. Over, and over, and over all for nothing more than a little digital token saying we did.

We'll punish our selfs doing things others would consider torture, because we think it's fun.

We'll spend most if not all of our free time min maxing the stats of a fictional character all to draw out a single extra point of damage per second.

Many of us have made careers out of doing just these things: slogging through the grind, all day, the same quests over and over, hundreds of times to the point where we know evety little detail such that some have attained such gamer nirvana that they can literally play these games blindfolded.

Do these people have any idea how many controllers have been smashed, systems over heated, disks and carts destroyed 8n frustration? All to latter be referred to as bragging rights?

These people honestly think this is a battle they can win? They take our media? We're already building a new one without them. They take our devs? Gamers aren't shy about throwing their money else where, or even making the games our selves. They think calling us racist, mysoginistic, rape apologists is going to change us? We've been called worse things by prepubescent 10 year olds with a shitty head set. They picked a fight against a group that's already grown desensitized to their strategies and methods. Who enjoy the battle of attrition they've threatened us with. Who take it as a challange when they tell us we no longer matter. Our obsession with proving we can after being told we can't is so deeply ingrained from years of dealing with big brothers/sisters and friends laughing at how pathetic we used to be that proving you people wrong has become a very real need; a honed reflex.

Gamers are competative by nature. We love a challange. The worst thing you did in all of this was to challange us.

>>716242123
Doc thanks

>>716253981
Cool strawman bro

>>716253981
>I will always wind up in a higher status role because my skills are simply worth more
Not for much longer KWAB

>>716253846
>Turns out, 1,000,000 people's $40 is more money in returns than 50,000 people's $100.
Here's reality. Most AA and indie projects fail spectacularly and are a less reliable investment than your average AAA bloat. You just don't hear as much about the flops precisely because they don't receive enough funding to market themselves adequately in the first place. Pretty much any dev or investor you talk to will confirm this. Gamers are hopeless retards though who are permanently trapped in confirmation bias cognition and outright refuse to accept empirical data that contradicts their priors.

>>716241842 (OP)
The dumbest nigger-cattle in existence? Everyone but me.

>>716241842 (OP)
In some ways i agree OP. I think gamers having melties over buying games and switching to F2P slop that makes them spend even more anyways completely slaughtered the industry

the reality is gamers dont see gaming as a luxury, they for whatever reason see it as something that should be given to them for free (this thread and board in general proves it) through F2P, pirating, emulation etc. If you check the gaming tab on youtube or notice that assmontard is the representation of gaming, you end up realizing that gaming for whatever reason attracts the dumbest and lowest form of humans and that is why gacha and roblox are the biggest money makers currently in gaming

If most gamers saw players playing f2p slop the same as someone buying and wearing cloths from good will, the gaming industry would be in a much better spot

>>716253981
And this is the point at where the illustrious monkey broke
You're now free to point at him at laugh

>>716241842 (OP)
>DON'T FUCKING BUY IT
Way ahead of you.

>>716253901
>um no we aren't we're actually based
This but unironcally

>>716241842 (OP)
Don't care, end yourself

>>716253981
>*pirates your game*
What, I didn't catch that? Status role you say? Whatever, just make sure my pasta is al dente.

>all these seething people ITT

You know people joked about /v/ being poorfag 3rd world pajeets but i didnt think it was true until i read this thread

>>716251225
Capitalism is good because game prices remain low despite what OP claims.

>>716241842 (OP)
kill yourself shekelstein I'm not paying 90 bucks for goyslop

>>716254474
No, those people are faggots. Just emulate or find free ware. There's free shit that aren't scams made to be unfun and grindy out there.
>>716254362
prove that

Movie and music people should not be allowed to use the internet.

>>716254362
Not really. Indie games don't take anything besides time investment. But you're a retard.

>AA
Yeah and guess how AA died you baboon. Because of AAA bloat. People were smarter then and realized making a low budget game would provide long term benefits overall but people like you advocate all or nothing profit. This is why games take 10 years to make and can't even break even. You asked for this future and it's unsustainable

>but Nintendo!
Manchildren paying 80 dollars for Mario kart or a shitty dk game doesn't matter

>>716254797
see>>716242969

>>716254748
>*pirates your game*
I work in enterprise software retard.

>>716254828
> free shit that isnt predatory
doesnt exist unless you are emulating. The closest ive found was path of exile, every other f2p game i play feels predatory or made to cater to soulless tryhard esportsfags

>>716241842 (OP)
imagine: a world where a $70 superhype AAA game, the latest in a highly popular series, made by hundreds if not thousands of devs is outsold and outprofitted by a $50 indie RPG made by a small team in a cave with a box of scraps
oh wait, that's this world. Clair Obscure is confirmed to have sold as many copies as Ubisoft vaguely claims AssCreed Shadows has unique players

make a quality product and price it affordably, and people will buy it. Your publisher seeks the highest return for the lowest investment, but raising prices isn't accomplishing that

>>716254969
you're on a board where people think the only software that exists are video games

>>716241842 (OP)
>DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM ?

>>716255042
Denial. Denial. Denial.

>>716252645
You don't understand how businesses run.
When you pay people to make a product they're only paid to make a sufficiently ok product.
When they go above and beyond and make an excellent product, the product gives extra money to you and extra reputation to your brand (reputation converts into future money).
If you pay the ones responsible for it a part of this extra they're more likely to do it again.
Other workers are also more likely to increase their quality output too when they hear of it.
This means your brand now makes better products, which means your product's value is higher, allowing you to either sell at a higher price or at a higher volume.
This also gives you the power of word of mouth, the cheapest AND most powerful kind of advertising.
This also increases profits.

>>716255090
inflation doesn't affect the rich

>>716255087
Dude watch your tone, he worked at blizzard too

All modern game developers should be executed by the state on live television.

>>716255157
Wont anyone think of the poor investors

>DON'T BUY IT HUHHHH
I didn't I only buy games worth my money. That also excludes most modern trash. If that upsets you op deal with it :)

>>716255027
You can get Iji for free, and I heard nothing but good things about that. Cave Story is another piece of iconic freeware. Rom hacks blur the line, but fan games aren't allowed to make money, so they're all free without any bullshit.

>>716241842 (OP)
Nintendo do engage in microtransactions and subscription fees.

Console growth is slowing down for ps5s and stagnating for xbox because there aren't any good reasons for new people to get ps5s or xboxs, the excitement of the PS5s launch has largely been overshadowed by its lack of exclusives.

Mobile game profits have steadily grown year over year.

Generally things cost what they're worth, games are sold at their prices because people buy them and to offset the costs of development. It's the job of the publishers to set these costs and prices at the outset to offset that cost, if they can't then they've failed not the consumer.

There is no "real cost", there can only be the price that's set and a mismatch with consumer demands where the price changes.

You had that game, it was called concord and it cost sony 400 million dollars. Oh what, the ambitious project didn't work out so good?

>>716255362
Oh, yeah, inverstors...
The ones who say "yeah, you make good product, line is going up, but not fast enough so you're all fired now."

>>716255763
If you don't like it I'd suggest the alternative of never putting money on it so you never get a job in the first place.

i don't care, maybe they studios shouldn't hire useless danger haired HR departments, cut down on the fucking bloat, and stop chasing the line go up meme
>but-
studio management being utterly inept is not my problem. i'm not pitying a fucking CORPORATION no matter how much you beg me to, you fucking golem

>>716254969
No one cares what spaceship you work on, nerd.
Make sure your game is at least 60fps or no sale.

I don't bitch about it, because there's not a single 70+ dollar game that interests me. Most games I get are usually around 20 bucks or less.

>>716241842 (OP)
That's a lot of words fag lord. But jokes on you I'm American I can't read.

>>716247724
>corporate under investor MBAs who only ever think and invest in immediate, short term profits that can never ever even conceive of a smaller budget title to keep things going along while working on a bigger project effectively forces extreme burnout because said MBAs are the biggest kikes of all who think paying living wages to its employees is communism 'n sheeeit but they alone should reap ALL of the financial benefits as skill flight and brain drain from retarded HR departments constantly meddling and shitting up productivity hours to swing their dicks around nilly willy cause the industry to start buckling under its own diabetic fucking weight and makes gamedev a fucking nightmare comparable to fucking sweatshops during crunch hours and actively are the only fucking industry in the ENTIRE FUCKING WORLD that can and effectively does permanently prevent any kind of union work to prevent this type of explicit exploitation from existing in the first fucking place
>duuuuh its the CUSTOMERS who are the problm!!
>conveniently ignoring most of your "customer base" are literal god damned CHILDREN

You will never be a millionaire, you will never be a billionaire, you have NO capital, you are a worthless DOG in the eyes of the very men who sodomize you and everything you work for to pinch as much of a penny out of it all as possible while blaming YOU directly for everything not getting them as much as they arbitrarily want.

If you are unwilling to accept this is how things are and aren't willing to try to even remotely change that, do yourself a favor and speedrun your shit life to its proper conclusion. Preferably with a fucking helium tank, you pathetic fucking spit of cum.

>>716253981
>I have money, therefore I'm right
Take a hint from this thread, you're a retard, and unlike in real life, you cant use it to leverage respect. You know it very well, without even needing to have it pointed out, that people only put up with your neanderthal takes for their own convenience, and that your own, biased, self serving takes are not respected by anyone below you, much like everyone above you doesnt either. But you wont admit it right? After all, you're the one that thinks that bragging about money can win you an interenet argument
You clueless fool

>>716256553
>spaceship
Wanna bet he works on spreadsheet data exporting or some other menial shit that AI will soon learn to do better and more reliably than him?

>>716257094
anon..

>>716257169
pffthahahaha you're right sorry

>>716256775
>You will never be a millionaire
Lmao, where are you reddit socialists coming from, becomingg a millionaire is not hard.
1000$ per month invested with a 6% annual return rate is 1.3M in 35 years

>>716257538
lol yeah its that easy thats why theres so many millionaires who all drink the finest wine and hennessey and laugh because the economy is 100% working as intended lmao

LARPing faggot, deepthroat a banana slug.

>>716256775
>You will never be a millionaire
You're not gonna like what I have to say anon.

>>716257737
Wow, you can buy a PS3 and ONE game??

>>716257628
Economy is working as intended, Americans just whine while living in luxury.
Your epic unionized nations that don't allow to fire people earn half of what your could lol

I didn't think 80 dollars is unreasonable
I will also never pay 80 dollars

>>716241842 (OP)
I will continue not to buy needlessly expensive games.

>>716241842 (OP)
We're approaching levels of corporate bootlicking that shouldn't even be possible here.

>>716258124
>bootlicking

>>716258273
no need to post a selfie

>>716258312
How can it be a selfie if it's not holding a camera?

>>716243282
It's a pure skill issue if free2play gambling simulators with cute girl images attached are plainly superior on every level including the graphics to the big budget games

>>716241842 (OP)
Have you considered a career in journalism? It might be your calling.

>>716258364
psychic powers, hence why he’s holding up his left hand

>>716258364
God you fucking alphies...
You can do countdown photos if you balance your phone straight somewhere

>>716258670
That's selfshots.

>>716257094
>Wanna bet he works on menial shit that AI will soon learn to do better and more reliably than him
Sure, but I already busted my ass and saved like a motherfucker. I have enough to retire.

>>716241842 (OP)
TL;DR

>>716241842 (OP)
You hate us because... our dislike for some games is making the industry collapse? Your solution is for us to not buy games we don't like, but it sounds like that's exactly what you're complaining about

>>716241842 (OP)
>hurr durr consumers not consuming
>"well OKAY then!" but then again not OK???
make your damn mind up tranny, the stop killing games incentive isn't to keep garbage like the latest call of duty alive, it's to stop publishers from pulling the plug on their always-online DRM garbage on freaking single player games or have no dedicated server software available like was the case for the last eternity right up until Activision decided to take a shit on it and other companies followed suit. consider therapy and distance yourself from gaming, it clearly has an adverse effect on you

>>716252659
>Very basic economics.
This melts the brain of all leftist and liberal assholes working in video games.

>>716241842 (OP)
>hire half of new Delhi to develop your game
>Make the game have hyper realistic textures
>Create a map the size of Texas
>Hire A list celebrities to voice act everything
>hire the other half of new Delhi to fix the bugs the other half created
>Spend half the budget on marketing and hiring shills on twitch
Maybe if they cut some of this unneeded bloat, they wouldn't need everyone on earth to buy 2 copies in order to break even. Even so, the industry is bigger than ever, Xbox and Nintendo are breaking records and CEO bonuses are fatter than ever. Tariffs and shit only seem to effect the grunts and the consumer.

>>716252790
Yes

>>716241842 (OP)
>THEN JUST DON'T FUCKING BUY IT
Ok
>a six figure software dev job
Post games you worked on

>>716241842 (OP)
Funny how this doesn't affect indie studios. I mean, Schedule 1 made a huge bank.

>>716241842 (OP)
We didn't do anything. Sticks and stones, bitch. If complaining about prices is doing damage then maybe the complainers have a point. The industry is collapsing because it got too big to sustain itself. In other words
>Achievement Unlocked: The Bigger They Are

>>716259912
>Post games you worked on
None. I'm speaking as a consumer who would like to pay more for more ambitious games.

>>716260012
lmao what a fucking moron. You really are brainless. Get out of here and go back to R*ddit.

>>716241842 (OP)
this but unironically
/v/ utterly raped

>>716259761
This bloat is what sells the game retard. Even Fromsoft uses Indian contractors.

>>716260214
>This bloat is what sells the game retard
Apparently not since they don't sell

>>716260276
>Fromsoft games don't sell
retard

>>716241842 (OP)
>They're the only segment of consumers that refuse to acknowledge inflation exists.
Shut the fuck up you retard
A blu ray is still <£15, a book is still <£15, an album is still <£15
You fucking retard clowns jump through 8 billion hoops to try and justify price increases when the reality is the price of most entertainment media has not increased very much at all
>nooo but percentage increases means we should be able to charge 500 dollars for games because it's totally only like a 30% increase which is the same as a book if you just let me ignore the base pricing of these items
Retard

>THEN JUST DON'T FUCKING BUY IT
>WAHHHHH WHY ARE THEY LAYING OFF DEVELOPERS!!!

>>716260471
There's also butload of AI new tools that automate and/or speed up a good chunk of their workload, which should make things faster and cheaper, but about those things you never hear a peep, or about the decreasing costs of storage, you only hear the bitching of the upper crusts on how their production costs get fatter (along with their gains). Which is by all means a skill issue by the way

>>716260012
from
>work my way into a six figure software dev job
to
>None. I'm speaking as a consumer
so you don't have a six figure job. You're just a NEET who thinks
>more money = better games
which is such a retarded thing to say, it's not even funny

>>716241842 (OP)
>words words words
Games aren't worth more than $25 MAX. If a dev can't make an experience at that price point that people want to buy it is unironically a skill issue.

>>716241842 (OP)
>Interested in paying a higher price for a better game
And that's the joke with modern gaming, you don't get a better game and it's not worth the price even without inflation.
Covid was a bubble and burst when normies went back outside. Layoffs always happen and AAA games overblown, over-budgeted and overrated.
Microtransations and battle passes are overpriced tat that has no quality in them.
The game market is oversaturated so people can pick and choose and not give shit to an entitled dev who only produces shit.
So yeah, we'll not buy it, wait for a sale discount or we'll just pirate anyway to spite you.

>>716241842 (OP)
the difference here, nigger, is that studio creates a game for 1 million $, prices it 60 and now they can copy that product (the game) infinitely. They can sell it to 100 gamers or to 1 million gamers at full price. Meaning they profited 599m, and continue to do so until they pull the plug somewhere. A farmer grows an apple, it's 1$, he sells it, apple gone. He can't resell "apple" as a digital product ad infinitum.

It's more of an investment, even today, than a product. Make a good game and it will sell, they will have to balance it, worth vs selling price. But knowing how gaming is today, if they raise the "Price: to 120$ from 60 we'd see the same bugged toddslop and ubislop, gacha and söytendo slop as we do today, but paid double.
Not me though I rarely buy games above 20$, no game is worth more than that.

>>716260012
I'm gonna need you to send me two hundred thousand dollars for my hyper ambitious new game.

>>716241842 (OP)

>>716241842 (OP)
>THEN JUST DON'T FUCKING BUY IT
Yeah? Why else do you think you're crashing? I thought kikes were supposed to be business savvy.