>vast majority of the highest rated games of all times released in the past decade
Are we really living in the Golden Age of vidya?

>>716257262 (OP)
No just more people play more recent games and the amount of votes partially accounts for that on the site, which is also fairly recent.

>>716257262 (OP)
>Donkey Kong: Bananza

>>716257262 (OP)
anon... its called recency bias

>>716257385
Now that's what I call cope

>>716257539
>ah yes of the 18 highest rated games of all time, over a third of them came out within the past 2 years, and only one of them came out before the turn of the millennium
I think you might be stupid.

>>716257262 (OP)
>bananza in the third slot
lol, lmao.

>>716257262 (OP)
Holy slop the new games on there dont belong.

>>716257262 (OP)
As someone who actually plays video games and has done so for about 3 decades at this point, there's plenty of garbage on that list, and you're a faggot for using what I'm assuming is some gay backlog tracking site.

>>716257515
Recency bias resulting from modern games being far superior..

>>716257984
anon, half of these are D tier games that are only propped up because they come from large studios.
if you removed the DK skin from bananza it'd just be another indie dev's random half baked eternal early access game.

>>716257262 (OP)
>GAA2 instead of AAI2
what? Why?

>troonloggd
Lmao

>>716258130
>half of these are D tier games
Absolutely deluded retarded manchild. Just stop fucking talking you subhuman. Just saying pure drivel for a reaction.

>>716258130
Post your 3x3 so we can all get a good laugh, faggot.

>>716258396
explain how E33 is the best game of all time.

>>716257984
i don't think you know what recency bias means, but whatever you say

>>716257262 (OP)
modern games are better than games in the past, it's a fact.

>>716258497
You haven't even played it, you fucking retard. You fucking jaded fags are all the same, just kys already.

>>716258615
so you cant explain how E33 is the best game of all time?

>>716257262 (OP)
There's like 4 games that deserve to be there.

>>716258497
E33 absolutely shits on every classic JRPG. It runs circles around Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy, Xenogears, Earthbound, Suikoden, Mario RPG, etc.

>>716258705
And you haven't even fucking played it, so shut the fuck up.

E33 has absolutely incredible story, writing, characters, combat, overworld, enemy design, artstyle, bossfights, challenge, replayability, side content, etc.

>>716257947
All of the games on that list that I've played were very solid. They might not be the best of all time but they stand out from the hundreds of shitty games I've played throughout my life.

whenever you have an upvote community where your reputation is tied to how many upvotes you have they all start resonating with each other instead of saying authentic opinions

>>716259127
There are only a few really great games on there.

>>716259009
I've played E33 and it was extremely subpar. It's a game for people who pretend to love JRPGs but don't actually care for them and only play a few popular ones.

>>716258130
>BG3 is D tier
>E33 is D tier
>RDR2 is D tier
>MGS3 is D tier
>Silent Hill 2 is D tier
>Elden Ring is D tier
>Astro Bot is D tier
>Bloodborne is D tier
>Half Life Alyx is D tier
Just stop you fucking moron

>>716259295
No, it's for people who would love to enjoy JRPGs but the genre is so utterly shallow, repetitive, braindead, and juvenile that they are unable to. That's how E33 was able to succeed: it's a JRPG for people with an IQ over 100 who aren't fat retarded weeaboo slugs who jerk off to tranime

Removed all the shit ones or meh ones. And desu even the ones I left arent that great.

>>716259553
>Removing Mother 3

>>716259553
Post your top 10 vidya

>>716257262 (OP)
>Bananza
>MGS3
>SH2
>Outer Wilds
>GAA2
>Bloodborne
These are the only good games in this image. And backloggd is filled with retards with shit taste, who cares.

>>716259836
>no BG3
>no E33
Manchild retard with shit taste

>>716259009
ok and... what makes it better than all of those other games?
what makes all of those things about it incredible?
can you actually give examples or do you only have hollow statements with nothing behind them.

>>716259490
>it's for people who would love to enjoy JRPGs but the genre is so utterly shallow, repetitive, braindead, and juvenile that they are unable to.
Yeah like I said, it's for retards that play FF and Persona and ER and then pretend they're JRPG fans but also that the genre is shit and needs fixing.
>That's how E33 was able to succeed: it's a JRPG for people with an IQ over 100 who aren't fat retarded weeaboo slugs who jerk off to tranime
I'm in better shape than you and I'm more educated than you are. You pretend a mediocre game is good because of a marketing campaign that sold it to you as some small passion project from real gamers.

>>716259876
>no moviegames
Yes.

>>716259883
>please write a 50 page dissertation about why you like this game that I've never played
How about you eat the shit from my asshole then kys?

>>716259490
your baiting is in peak form today, this almost got me to respond.

>>716259937
I literally had the game 100%ed before all those news stories came out. I don't give a fuck if one fag worked on it or 2000, a good game is a good game.

I wouldn't put it in my top 20, but it's a hell of a lot better than the dozens of turn-based JRPG turds I've played that retards suck off as the greatest games of all time.

>No Zelda OOT or MM
>No Metal gear Solid 1 and 2 and Rising
>No Resident Evil 1,2,3,4 and 1 Remake
>No Streets of Rage 2
>No Oblivion and Skyrim
>No GTA3, Vice City and San Andreas
>No Jak and Daxter Trilogy
>No Final Fantasy 7 and 10
>No Castlevania SOTN
>No Mass Effect Trilogy
>No Assassins Creed 2
>No Batman Arkham games
>No Legacy of Kain games
>No Metroid games
>No Tomb Raider games
>No Pokemon Gen 1 and Gen 2
>No Deus Ex and Human Revolution
>No Tekken 3
>No Street Fighter 2
>No Soul Calibur 2
>No Mortal Kombat 9
>No Dark Souls 1
>No Witcher 3
>No Splinter Cell Chaos Theory
>No Mario 64
>No Starfox 64
>No Sleeping dogs
>No Mirriors Edge
>No Xcom
>No Alpha Protocol
>No spec Ops the Line
>No Red Dead Redemption 1
>No The Darkness
>No Burnout Paradise
>No Phantasy Star Online
>No Dead Space
>No CIV5
>No Devil May Cry 1 and 3
>No Time Crisis
>No Dragons Dogma 1

>>716259969
He's right, though. I don't mind how repetitive and juvenile the genre is because I've played "deep" WRPGs for the last 20 years and JRPGs are a nice break from those.

>>716260183
>No Zelda OOT or MM
That's a good thing.

It is because of graphics. Nobody wants to play games with shitty graphics. All remakes are superior to the old "sovl" shitty graphics copy

>>716259009
>combat
budget Paper Mario with QTE spam
>overworld
generic UE5 assets
>enemy design
budget Souls
>artstyle
generic UE5 and budget Persona UI
>bossfights
>challenge
>replayability
lol

>>716259754
1. The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
2. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
3. Metal Gear Solid 1 (original)
4. Resident Evil 4 (original)
5. Streets of Rage 2
6. Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion
7. GTA San Andreas
8. Final Fantasy 7
9. Castlevania SOTN
10. Deus Ex

>>716260183
Most of those games you listed aren't that good. You're rating them highly based primarily on nostalgia. GTA3 as an example would be considered dogshit if it released today and would probably be forgotten in a week after scoring 65% on steam.

>>716260385
Mario RPG*

>>716260183
You'll never make everyone happy with a greatest x of all time list, but the quality of the games in OP is honestly way higher than that list

>>716260385
>subhuman retard who can only spew buzzwords
Your life is worthless

I have a big list on backlogged of me trying to make my top 100 games. Its too hard. Its at about 160 games at the moment.

>>716260430
>8. Final Fantasy 7
>9. Castlevania SOTN
>10. Deus Ex

Those are the only truly great games on your list that would still hold up today if they were newly released. Oblivion is fucking dogshit. That doesn't belong on the top 100 much less on a top 10 list.

>>716259009
i hope this is bait holy shit, the devs should pay you for all this shilling

>>716257947
>some gay backlog tracking site.
I just use it for the list feature. It's a great way of finding obscure and hidden gems that not even /v/ would mention.

>>716260519
>but the quality of the games in OP is honestly way higher than that list
I disagree. Resident Evil 4 is way better than most of those games in the op pic. Metal Gear Solid 3 and Silent Hill 2 are the only ones of a similar standard. Possibly Elden Ring as well maybe.

>>716260136
>but it's a hell of a lot better than the dozens of turn-based JRPG turds I've played
You haven't played dozens of JRPGs. You've likely played less than a dozen. You're a normalfag casual with shit taste pretending that he actually plays video games. Pretending E33 is better than any JRPG is like pretending Skyrim is better than all the WRPGs that came before it.

>>716260183
>No Zelda OOT or MM
Seeing OoT anywhere on a top games list is how you can instantly tell the entire list is worthless.

>>716260619
>It's a great way of finding obscure and hidden gems that not even /v/ would mention.
I've seen this mentioned before when you shill this gay site. Give some examples of hidden gems you've found there that /v/ doesn't talk about. list at least 3.

>>716260519
>>716259009
>t. brown zoomer

>>716259957
oh ok, so you LIKE the game. its not that the game is the best of all time.
thanks for clearing that up!

>>716260747
I've beat every JRPG listed earlier, and I've beat almost 1000 games overall. E33's quality and creativity are undeniable. You are just jaded subhuman faggot who is high on nostalgia and can't enjoy anything new.

>>716257262 (OP)
They're the most advanced, so they have to be the best right?

>>716260972
see >>716259883

>>716260972
you haven't beaten a single one of those games

>>716260972
>I've beat every JRPG listed earlier,
You mean the 6 games you listed? That's nice.
>E33's quality and creativity are undeniable
They are if you aren't a shit eating retard, like you.
>You are just jaded subhuman faggot who is high on nostalgia and can't enjoy anything new.
Wrong. There are a solid 100 games I'm looking forward to across a bunch of genres, including low budget and high budget games. I'm also going to go play Abiotic Factor today, and that literally just came out.

>>716261014
That list (thankfully) has PS2 games, a GBA game, a 3DS game, and a SNES game.

>>716260960
I never said it was my favorite game of all time; my favorite games of all time would never be on these types of list. But I can still see why it's there: it's an absolutely fantastic game that puts classic JRPGs to shame.

>>716257405
Switch 2 owners got their 2nd game

I mean I don't really care as its only video games so its not a big deal but anyways it just makes me think that website has a young audience if they are putting recent games so high.

>>716261162
not really.
like i said, explain why its "fantastic" and above all the others.

>>716261162
>it's an absolutely fantastic game that puts classic JRPGs to shame.
You don't play JRPGs and your taste in games is shit.

>>716261132
Including all those games across those series is like 50+ games. I don't know the exact number of JRPGs I've beaten, but it's at least 30-40, and E33 is the best by far (excluding Souls), but that's a very low bar to clear as JRPGs are a bottom of the barrel genre

>>716260939
I never shilled this shitty site before though. Anyway, Dragon Valor, The Adventure of Little Ralph, and Crumble (physics based 3D platformer on Steam)

>>716261335
Post your 3x3 so we can all laugh.

JRPGs are one of the worst, most braindead, juvenile, shallow, repetitive genres out there that appeal to complete subhumans.

>>716261368
>Including all those games across those series
You haven't played all of the games in those series, and even if you add them all up, it comes out to half as many turn based JRPGs as you just pretended. I'm guess you've beaten FFVII and FFX, and maybe Mario RPG. You've played Xenogears, Chrono Trigger and Suikoden 2 for a few hours each.
>I don't know the exact number of JRPGs I've beaten, but it's at least 30-40
No it's not.
>and E33 is the best by far (excluding Souls)
>the retarded cocksucking niggerfaggot retard who pretends the shitty French game is good is a Fromdrone
You had me going for a while. Thanks for the laugh.

>>716261460
>Post your 3x3 so we can all laugh.
I don't have a 3x3 because I play too many games to narrow my favorites down that much, and because I'm not an attentionwhoring pseud faggot like you.

>>716259352
All correct except for SH2, BB, and Alyx.

>>716261542
>FromSoft is le bad
And there it is... you're an even bigger fucking retard than I could have even imagined. So contrarian you'd hate your own mother just to be unique and edgy. Fucking subhuman filth. Die.

>>716260972
>I've beat every JRPG listed earlier, and I've beat almost 1000 games overall.
No you haven't. You say this everytime you shill E33.

>>716261368
Can you explain how it's the best without using vague phrases like its the most creative or has the most quality.

>>716261690
>le
Everyone can already tell you're a stupid redditor pseud faggot. You don't need to double down on it. And I didn't say From is bad, I said Fromedrones (like you and the other retarded casuals who pretend Dark Souls is peak JRPG) can safely be ignored and laughed at for their objectively worthless opinions on games.
>So contrarian you'd hate your own mother just to be unique and edgy.
Nope. I was playing Demons' Souls and Dark Souls long before you retarded cum guzzling faggots jumped onto the PTD bandwagon. I like them. I just don't pretend they're better than they actually are. There are plenty of popular games I love, some of which are on OP's list. Like BB.

>>716257262 (OP)
>literally all "zoomers first game"

>>716257262 (OP)
Hell no

>>716257262 (OP)
I noticed that just like every other ratings website like MAL and Letterboxd, they also have recency bias to every new title and it quickly raises to the top.

With that said, this is a solid list if you remove some stinkers.

>Games that should be removed.

1) Reddit Dead Redemption 2
This game has no business being this high, espeically when games like it such as Witcher 3, TLOU, Skyrim and God of War are nowhere to be seen.
RDR2 does nothing special except graphics, it should be way lower.
2) Disco Elysium
This game is pretentious slop and its not even good, this is a game that is made from dialogue boxes only and any sign of gameplay is treated as an afterthought, every gameplay element is very shallow and completely sucks. The game went full story only for the story to fall apart in the end and turn out to be a nothing burger shit, replay this game and you will realize you've been had, it completely cracks on replays.
3) Mother 3
Highly overrated slop
4) Astro Bot
Imitating Super Mario games, takes away their ideas (aka stole) and get all the praise! retards really reward such behavior huh? this game is solid but its nothing original or amazing, the fact that its rated higher than Super Mario Galaxy games makes it baffling.
5) Ace Attorney
Some visual novel slop, doesn't belong here, go watch anime instead
6) Kingdom Come 2
Sequel bias here, the first game which is almost the same quality except for budget related elements is sitting at 3.8, unfairly bombed because at the time Vavra was considered racist, now suddenly its super high to own the chuds, zero consistency! anyway the game is alright but it has some flaws and is not this top material.
7) Death Stranding 2
I hated the first but this seems too high, didn't play it yet but i doubt it deserves this rating, a game where its mostly cutscenes and you just walk? i dont think so.

>>716262302
>the first game which is almost the same quality
KCD2 is way worse than 1 and didn't even fix any of the issues from it.

>>716262302
>overrated slop
>visual novel slop
>slop slop slop
if you're gonna say why something shouldn't be there you gotta actually explain, retard.

>>716257262 (OP)
>not a single good game on that grid

>>716259836
Silent Hill 2 has atrocious gameplay and Metal Gear Solid 3 is a jack of all trades master of none.
Bloodborne is not even better than Lies of P

>>716257262 (OP)
Shill33 is not better than classic FF. Bald Gay 3 is not better than classic CRPGs. Bananza is not better than classic DK. Just a case of zoomers not knowing any better.

>>716262302
>shit talks rdr2 and mother 3 but doesn't do the same for donkey kong bananza

>>716261460
Based

>>716257262 (OP)
What site is this

>>716262681
You value le gameplay over originality and soul.

>>716257262 (OP)
Fun Fact:
Baldur's Gate 3 started with the ratings from its early access which were at 4.0 based on 5k plays, so it started at disadvantage and it took the game 3 months to reach the top, new games reach the top within 1 week of their release because they start fresh and new and the 10s they get boost them and then they quickly start going down, for BG it was the opposite the game kept going up until it reached the spot it currently holds.

>>716262681
>Bloodborne is not even better than Lies of P
Your shitty post doesn't even deserve a genuine response, gook.

>>716257262 (OP)
>not a single RTS

I may as well just go into a coma for a few years and see if my favorite genre comes back from the dead.

>Mother 3 is a good game
lmao

>>716262782
Didn't play it, game just released.

>>716262782
>shit talks rdr2
Maybe because it's a shitty moviegame.

>>716262932
Joke post
>Originality
Yeah because ripping off Lynch and Dostoevsky themes and presentation and ripping off RE2 game design ideas is actually very very original.
>Soul
You can argue that for every piece of shit game, so its not a valid argument, sorry.

>>716263003
List 5 things that Bloodborne does better.
Hard mode: Don't mention level design.

>>716262973
Truly amazing what botfarms and outrage marketing can do.

>>716257262 (OP)
No. Popular opinion is downright silly.

>>716263405
Combat, enemy design, weapons, OST, pacing, character customization, multiplayer, itemization

>>716261212
Its mostly 17-22 year old writing essays about their feelings instead of the actual merits of the game, if you challenge them they cry and block you.
Everyone wants to look the smartest and coolest so all the games these youngsters like are actually games like Disco Elysium and Silent Hill 2, they are desperate to be taken seriously by moviebuffs and booknerds.

I almost 100% guarantee every older gamer likes the gameplay games way more.

Also i have seen some users there with more than 4k games played and they are 20 years old, you go to their Letterboxd and you will see they watched 4k films, and their anime site and they watched 1k, and they book site and they read 2k books, like What the actual FUCK?? I am 36 years old and i didn't even do that and im someone who stays at home a lot of time, how do you even put this amount of hours while still being young, while still going to school/college while writing tons of shitty essays on the internet and managing Discord and all your shitty fake ass pretentious accounts? its clearly fake edgy tryhard persona to look the smartest and the coolest. Its so obvious, these dudes are roleplaying, its why they pretend to be women or some queer stupid gender they made up.

>>716263405
>ripping off themes
Anyone can do that but Silent Hill manages to produce something well with them in the end result with a tolerable cast of characters.
>ripping off RE2 game design
Ironic since you hold Lies of Shit over Bloodborne which is a 1:1 shameless copy cat down to the aesthetics that came after and did nothing original other than rip off Sekiro's gameplay and called it a day.

>>716261460
Fuck it, sure, I play too many to have a proper favourite but these are definitely up there

>>716263797
The Combat is worse in Bloodborne, its lower stakes, its jankier thanks to the awful framepacing stutter, it has less mechanics to pay attention to, parrying is halfbaked, rally mechanic is way worse.

Enemy Design is worse because Bloodborne enemies are divided into 2 types, beasts and humanoids, the way to beat them is the exact same, the main bosses of Bloodborne are mediocre with the exception of 2 hunters the first and the last.
Weapons are less cutsomizable and worse and have worse movesets
Character cusomization is actually dogshit, in Bloodborne you are offered 3 types of builds, and 1 of them suck, 1 barely has tools, and the standard one is the one the gets all, not only that but stats wise you don't get to actually customize anything beyond your build.

You only named Soundtrack, which is very subjective, but lets pity you and give you that one.
1/5
Epic Fail

>>716264084
Not my problem, you made the claim, that its good because its original, but its not, so you failed here, sorry.
>ironic since you hold Lies of Shit over Bloodborne
Retard. you claimed that originality is a factor, not me. lmfao

>>716257262 (OP)
>disco elysium
>top rated game of all time
Jfc normalfags have shit taste, its barely even a game more like a VN

>>716262302
why do people hate RDR2 so much? If you cant understand wanting to be a cowboy and ride the frontier plains then what do you live for?

>>716264571
They heard from gaming journalist that its le well written and deep so that makes it 10/10
I have never seen anyone actually pointing out why its well written, its just a circlejerk

>>716264464
>The Combat is worse in Bloodborne
Nope. Gookshit will never be on par with what the Japanese makes.

>>716264464
Lies of P only has one build and it sucks. Also the bosses in it are generic as hell and stupid as shit given the plot is more idiotic than the average anime. Lies of P enemies are one note toys that do one attack and bosses blur into one gigantic soulsslop clone blob. The weapons animations are floaty and it's too reliant on rythmn game parry but stiffer and more restricted.

This would be my top 100 list

>>716264379
>Mean Bean Machine
>Playing Puyo Puyo without tsu rules
enjoy your "who can make a 5 chain first" I suppose

>>716264694
Here's how to beat every enemy in Bloodborne:

See enemy, is it enemy A or enemy B?
Enemy A? Parry from far (zero stakes, easy, rewarding) land the parry (you have 20 tries) critical hit, wins.
Enemy B? circle around their big booty, hit as many R1 as you can before they attack, dodge and repeat. wins.

Combos? barely there
Tools to use? none
Status effects? barely there
Parry? free
Rally mechanic? undercooked
Difficulty? easy as fuck

Lies of P combines Sekiro and Souls to create a more sophisticate mechanical depth in its combat, it also adds more status effects to consider, more tools from the Legion arms, parry is actually risky but rewarding, the rally mechanic is well implemented, P-Organ system allows for better customization and gives you benefits in combat, enemies are varied and force the player to adapt rather than smash the same button.

>>716264850
>Also the bosses in it are generic
You are confusing it with Bloodborne.

More than half of Bloodborne enemies are big beast abominations that do the same things, you circle around their butt and wreck them with R1s, even one of the game best bosses according to its casual fans Lady Maria is a cakewalk that can be staggered with every hit until she just does her edgy anime pose, you can literally R1 her to death with LHS as long as you have the stamina, what a fucking joke of a boss fight, compare that with Lies of P bosses holy shit the gap is massive.

>>716265198
None of those effects matter in Piss since you also smash one button as the end result despite build. Also there's no combos in either. Rally mechanics are still underbaked and parrying is shit. Stop lying.

>>716265021
your list isnt bad but people are going to see TLOU in the first tier and chimp out so brace yourself

>>716264850
Bloodborne "Builds" are a joke.
The Arcane build sounds cool on paper until you realize that out of the 12 hunter tools you get only 4 are useful and 2 are borderline useful, the rest suck and are just garbage.
Gun builds are significantly inferior to melee just like Arcane.

"Builds" in Bloodborne are a laughable gimmick, its like they are trolling you because at the end you are going to do the same R1 attack anyway, its the best and most reliable, if we are talking about builds just bring up Elden Ring anyway or any other RPG like Path of Exile or something, Bloodborne builds are halfassed, everyone knows this.

Lies of P builds follow its weapon and weapon customization, game didn't pretend to be otherwise, it embraces its action side and drops pretending to be rpg.

>>716265352
What does P have? Robots and gay generic anime villain edge lords that you could easily win over with one button parryslop easily.

>>716265021
>OoT
>TLoU
>top 3
And I immediately closed the picture.

>>716265021
Your taste is shit

>>716265657
Yeah easily, hahahaha the puppet in Lies of P makes Orphan of Casuals look like a joke

>>716265639
Most P shit weapons are gimmicks or useless too. You will end up with one that you kind of like but never love. Bloodborne offers more than saw cleaver and has more satisfying trick weapons than P still. Alot of them are more polished and easily iconic to use.

>>716265819
Puppet jobbers wishes it could be half as memorable as Orphan of Kino or Gherman.

Lies of P is Sekiro for trannies. I'm tired of soulsslop clones outside of Team Ninja and Fromsoft.

>>716266069
False
Lies of P has a lot of different weapons and a lot of them play differently and feel satisfying to use.
https://liesofp.wiki.fextralife.com/Weapons


Meanwhile Bloodborne weapons are mostly the same, some are 2 Dark Souls weapons merged into one in a stupid gimmick called trick weapons, so you switch from a straight sword to a great sword. woah never saw that before.
Also some weapons are very similar like Saw Spear and Saw Cleaver, barely different.
DLC managed to improve that a little bit, but its still nowhere as good as it is in Lies of P with weapons that feel good to use and actually gets a cool special attack animations.

https://bloodborne.wiki.fextralife.com/Weapons

Besides the Burial Blade, Whirligig Saw, Moonlight and Bowblade i don't see much unique or fun weapons, the Blade of Mercy sucked, Rakyuo is overrated, the Threadded Cane is just a lame whip from Souls, yawn, boring weapons. Uninspired and completely outclasses by Lies of P or even Elden Ring weaponry

>>716266464
Lies of P only has rip off cleaver and not stake driver from Bloodborne which feels more stiff and less fluid and less cool to use than Bloodborne's animation set still.

>>716266763
If you want this conversation to continue you have to try harder.

>>716266464
Special animation attacks in P looks cheaper than a 10 year old game and doesn't feel good half the time compared to trick weapons.

>>716266876
I just have my preference and hate stiff and floaty animations like Lies of P and prefer the simple fluidity and satisfaction of BB's than artificial depth.

>>716261797
No I can't. If you actually played it I wouldn't need to you dumb fucking nigger

>>716262302
>Witcher 3, Skyrim, and God of War are better than fucking RDR2
Kek I don't typically defend this game but way to throw your credibility out the window

>>716262471
Seriously these faggots are fucking hilarious typing out long ass posts then when you read them they contain literally 0 substance at all

>>716261836
>retarded casuals who pretend Dark Souls is peak JRPG
made your bait/retardation way too obvious here.

I was playing Demon's Souls back in 2009 and 100%'ed it. Demon's Souls is the greatest game of all time, easily.

FromSoft has always been loved by /v/ up until the last few years when it's been overrun by turd world brown zoomers. Kys

>>716264379
Please be bait. PLEASE be bait.

>>716267710
>way to throw your credibility out the window

Go dickride Reddit Dead Redemption 2 idiot

Why did E33 do too well here? It's good but seeing the history of the entire genre, there are better options than it.

>>716267984
>calls rdr2 reddit while defending father cuck simulator 14

>>716267984
RDR2 fans are people who play Call of Duty and Fortnite, if you go to its page and read the reviews that praise it, you will find out they played a total of 10-20 videogames and they think its peak because Arthur is muh afraid.


If you examine RDR2 as a videogame, it utterly fails, yes its worse than Skyrim and Witcher 3 and God of War.

Best list coming through

>>716257262 (OP)
holy shit what a grim image the last decade has been terrible for vidya

>>716260430
>oblivion
If you were born 5 years later you would have put skyrim on your list. Otherwise good list.

>>716268151
Have you ever been on Reddit? they worship Red Dead 2 there, its their holy grail, say one bad word about it and you get downvoted to oblivion, meanwhile if you shittalk Skyrim and Witcher 3 and cry about the fanboys you will get thousands of reddit points, redditors always want the boogeyman but reality hits the fan.

my top games in no particular order

>ER
>BB
There is only one good soulsslop and that's Demon's Souls. The rest of the copies shouldn't touch a top 100 list for being low effort copy paste or fake action games.

>>716268180
Nah, RDR2 is one of those games that is just so damn exceptionally high quality that it commands respect. The mission structure is very repetitive, but you can look past that when it is so far and away ahead of almost everything else out there in terms of story, characters, writing, open-world, attention to detail, graphics, animation, immersion, etc.

I still prefer the first game slightly, and it wouldn't quite make my top 25 just because I prefer more briskly paced games and arcadey gameplay, but if someone considered it the greatest game of all time, I could definitely see where they're coming from, whether they've played 20 games or 2000 games.

>>716268351
I played all 3 around launch and consider Oblivion the best. The quest design, guilds, interactivity, reactivity, and atmosphere are far beyond the other TES games.

>>716268180
>If you examine RDR2 as a videogame, it utterly fails
So does Witcher 3, the gameplay is atrocious
>>716268359
>Have you ever been on Reddit?
Nope but I'm sure they love those games, especially God of War

>>716267823
>made your bait/retardation way too obvious here.
You type like an underage thirdworlder from reddit. As someone that was actually here playing DeS in 2009, you're a faggot.

A bit dated, but here's my top games in order of release

>>716268412
When it comes to RDR2 you are quick to present yourself as this very fair and super friendly game, but if its another game you will wear that harsh critic lens and tear it apart.

I dont think you realize how easily RDR2 can be dismantled. I'm sure you are a Rockstar fanboy

>>716268180
It's a decent cowboy sandbox but the story hard carries it. /v/ likes to pretend to hate story focused games meanwhile worship VNs and JRPGs with worse plot and characters.

>>716259009
Nobody played nantoka33

>>716268458
Witcher 3 gameplay is bad, but unlike RDR2 its not highly rated.
Even with its bad gameplay, it does at least try, you can see there is a variety in enemy design, they tried with the expansion bosses, the minigame is unique and fun unlike RDR2 which copied blackjack and poker directly.
Like what are we even doing here?

>>716268605
RDR2 doesn't really have many glaring flaws, aside from repetitive mission structure and plodding pacing, that don't apply to other games tenfold. Anyone can sit there and nitpick flaws all day, the point is, as a whole, the highs of the experience are essentially unrivaled by any other game out there, this is especially true if you are the type of gamer that values a compelling narrative and immersive world.

>>716257262 (OP)
Indeed we are, my friend, though you wouldn't know it if you frequent this shit board.

>>716268803
Blackjack and Poker are staples to western historical fiction. RDR2 setting is realistic compared to something like The Witcher which is a fantasy game that takes place in another dimension for all we care.

>>716268412
as far as being restricted by technology, I guess that counts as Oblivion having better interactivity and reactivity than daggerfall or Morrowind. The atmosphere is bland shit though and is carried by the music and graphics. It is like a stereotypical depiction of Europe, and Oblivion gates are Walmart hell. Most uninspired dogshit. The setting of Morrowind is an actually compelling fantasy setting that makes you want to know the lore.

>>716268667
>the story
...and writing
...and characters
...and open world
...and attention to detail
...and graphics and animations
...and soundtrack
...and immersion
...and atmosphere

I would say it's comparable to FF7, a very slow-paced game with very mediocre gameplay that is held up primarily on its characters, worldbuilding, and OST. RDR2 is better in basically every single category imaginable compared to FF7 (aside from maybe OST), yet FF7 gets a pass here while RDR2 is constantly shit on. Make it make sense.

>>716268803
>but unlike RDR2 its not highly rated
Are you retarded? W3 has a 92 on metacritic, it was one of the most well regarded games last generation if not the most well regarded "RPG" if you could call it that
RDR2's combat is simplistic but not really bad, W3's combat can be somewhat complex but the fundamentals are garbage and it lacks fluidity and feels clunky (inb4 so does RDR2!!!)
RDR2's main problem is how hard it railroads you into doing what it wants you to do. I don't even really like RDR2 but I feel compelled to defend it when people are saying shit like Witcher 3 and Dad of War are better than it. At least RDR2 excels at being a movie game which is what it sets out to do.

>>716268861
What about its combat? its very shallow and boring.

What do you think about the economy system and how easily you get rich? By the end of chapter 2 i had more money than i ever needed, every shop had the same things to buy and i had lots of them, i felt there was no need or incentive to explore because its all made meaningless because of that.

What do you think about the side characters? they are a shallow husk with no personality, they are plot devices following Dutch plans, even Arthur the main hero that made all casual shit their pants and cry in pain, that dude is a walking contradiction, and his character development pacing is fucked, he suddenly spikes without proper build up.

What do you think about the realism aspect of the game? the game tries so hard to be realistic, it shoves tedious animations down your throat for realism and immersion but in the same breath you and Lenny can solo an entire group of trained bounty hunters and law units? how is that realistic?

What about the missions? aside from being repetitive as you said, they are also very very restrictive always punishing you for completing the required objective because you did it YOUR way.

What do you think about chapter 5 and the transition to chapter 6? that was a huge pacing error.

Did you enjoy the gameplay? cleaning the stable of horeshit was fun? collecting cow milk is fun? fishing is good gameplay? really?

I'm not saying the game is total dogshit, but its literally rated at the top, it doesnt deserve that when other games do the same and are getting shat on 24/7, this doesn't make sense.

RDR2 is carried only by its budget, the game is huge its AAAA but its story is average, characters are a mixed bag, the villain is soo stereotypical and obviously shallow, the open world feels alive but is empty and boring to explore, traversal is awful, gameplay is shallow, mission design is bad, pacing is whacky. i dont get it? all this for presentation and attention to details?

>>716269256
>'s combat can be somewhat complex
the combat is ltierally rollslop theres only one combo and none of the the talents fundamentally change how the game is played as they are all worthless

both TW3 and RDR 2 are dogshit

>>716268532
If you were actually playing Demon's Souls in 2009, you would have recognized it as a masterpiece instead of shitting on someone for recognizing Souls as the clearly superior series to turn-based jarpiggy dreck.

>>716269123
bait post? there are zero memorable characters or storylines in RDR2. meanwhile you still have threads almost 30 years later about ff7 characters

>>716268667
I don't hate story focused games, I hate bad story focused games. Like RDR and nuGoW.

>>716269401
TW3 combat is more in line with bamham with connecting enemies and dashes but more random.

>>716269581
Dutch is definitely memorable
>b-b-but he isn't a good character
Not what I said but he still is

>>716269662
>TW3 combat is more in line with bamham with connecting enemies and dashes but more random.
no its more like souls bam ham is automatic and makes you invulnerable.

The best and only good witcher game is the first one

>>716269453
>If you were actually playing Demon's Souls in 2009
Pipe down, redditor.
>you would have recognized it as a masterpiece instead of shitting on someone for recognizing Souls as the clearly superior series to turn-based jarpiggy dreck.
DeS was a really good game, but I'm not one of the faggots that pretended it was the best thing ever or that all games should be like it.

>>716262718
OIdfag here.

E33 is absolutely better than classic FF (and every other turn-based JRPG for that matter)
BG3 and DOS2 are top 3 RPGs of all time, Larian is the current undisputed king of CRPG and it's not even close.
Bananza is worse than all the 2D DK games, but it's still a good game and certainly better than DK64.

>>716269581
>meanwhile you still have threads almost 30 years later about ff7 characters
People only talk about jacking off to ff7's characters with the occasional meme post about how cloud is le deep character

>>716269802
>E33 is absolutely better than classic FF (and every other turn-based JRPG for that matter)
lol

>>716269581
Ff7 characters are only memorable in a sense that some of the characters attract shallow coomer pajeets with AI. Cloud nor Zack come close to the detail, weight, nor presence of Arthur's storyline.

>>716269060
Who cares? you have to be objective here.
Objective fact: Gwent is unique and fun minigame and is tied well into the game quests and dialogue, it feels part of the world.

RDR2 minigames are just like its there, its like someone decided to lump in some time wasters. Zero thought went into them.

>>716269256
>Metacritic
We are talking about Backloggd, please pay attention.
Again you guys are inserting subjective shit here, objectively Witcher 3 combat is better than RDR2, no matter how you spin it.
Enemy design is better, and NO you don't need fantasy to do that better, you just better AI and variety in weapons and behaviors, RDR2 enemies are all braindead npcs that stay stand or take cover, all you need to do during combat is taking cover (you're immortal this way) and aim shoot aim for easy headshots, its literally the most braindead and basic combat that can be there.
Witcher 3 for all its faults in controls and low depth, at least manages to give you multiple different enemies and bosses and some tools to use during combat that can be enhanced with potions and decoctions and bombs, its not good but at least they are trying.

God of War and Witcher 3 have better gameplay and level design and are on par with storytelling, as i said, when it comes to RDR2 you are super cool, when it comes to those games you hate you become a harsh critic and refuse to see the good parts.
Nice double standards there.

>>716269793
Nope, it's literally the best and most seminal video game in all history.

Even back in 2009, I knew it was special and absolutely exceptional in a way that no other game had ever felt. Whatever poser oldfag dogshit you are propping as better, I guarantee you it does not touch Demon's Souls.

>>716269745
>The best and only good witcher game is the first one

We got the Witcher 1 retard here, im very surprised he is still alive and didn't hang himself yet.

Hopefully when the remake is out he dies from rage.

>>716269925
>>716269869
>>716269704
lol this is pure cope. Nobody remembers a single character from RDR2. meanwhile everybody knows Sephiroth, Tifa, Aerith, Barret, Cloud, etc.

>>716257262 (OP)
backloggd is for normalfags
I use it for the interface but if you want better ratings, even though its kinda reddit and hipster, glitchwave is infinitely better for finding games via ratings.
backloggd is imdb, glitchwave is letterboxd.

>>716270149
>Best setting
>best writing
>ambiguous quests that make you think like when you have to investigate all major npcs the guilty one could have been anyone to you
>most of the choices you pick matter in some way
>best skill tree
>you actually need to brew and use potions
>signs are actually useful
>no detective vision
>you actually do witcher contracts

>>716257262 (OP)
>living in the Golden Age of vidya
who even said that

>>716270305
>glitchwave is infinitely better for finding games via ratings
Shut the fuck... please shut the fuck up....

I couldn't make a bigger pretentious redditfag list if I tried

>>716269941
>We are talking about Backloggd
So you're saying your argument only works in the context of backloggd, but falls apart when applied elsewhere? Witcher 3 GOTY edition is still a 4.5 on backloggd, so your point is fucking wrong regardless idiot, it's definitely highly rated
>objectively Witcher 3 combat is better than RDR2
Nah, RDR2 combat is boring, Witcher's combat is just painful. But you do you.
>God of War
>on par with W3 and RDR2 for storytelling
Yeah, fuck no
>as i said, when it comes to RDR2 you are super cool
You weren't talking to me when you said that earlier. All three of the games are overrated shit, now what faggot?

>>716270529
>entire top 5 is all peak reddit games
Jesus fuck

>>716270067
>Nope, it's literally the best and most seminal video game in all history.
Nope. You're a Fromdrone in the truest sense of the word. DeS was a good, but far from perfect game. None of the Souls games that came after it made any really meaningful improvements. You just have shit taste in games.
>Whatever poser oldfag dogshit you are propping as better, I guarantee you it does not touch Demon's Souls.
Thanks for saving me the time of continuing to reply to you seriously. Now I know you're a faggot that doesn't actually play video games but pretends to have played lots of old ones.

>>716270629
Post your 3x3 so we can all laugh at you

>>716270305
>glitchwave
really shitty website.
the way their chart works is dumb as fuck, you have this game Echo a furry feelsgood walking simulator or some shit and somehow it makes it to the top 100 even with a low rating because the chart has a secret formula that nobody knows how it works to avoid trolls.

>>716270683
I don't know why I bother when you're going to shit on it just because, but here

>>716270812
holy FUCK that is legitimately some of the worst taste I have ever seen. You are a GIGANTIC faggot.

Please tell me this is bait or someone else pretending to be you.

>take comfy turn based combat and add a layer of QTE over it
It's a 5/10 at best

>>716270537
Now you're coping.
Editions are low rating count, so its inflated. Nobody counts them in their lists.

Yes RDR2 has 97 metacritic which is too high, but we all know Rockstar gets a bonus all the time even if they make mediocre games.
And Backloggd has a lot of Brazilian and Turkish retards that played a couple of games in their life and now proudly declared RDR2 as the goat.

>Yeah, fuck no
Yes they are, better gameplay and better level design, also on par with storytelling.

>All three of the games are overrated shit, now what faggot?
Nice deflection, i think you are RDR2 fan anon, no shame in hiding it, just admit that.
If you hate all 3 then you already agree with my point so fuck off and stop posting.

>>716270529
You shouldn't use any of these sites to spoonfeed you, they're simply good for exploring your own taste. If I have to pick between the site that has GTA 5 as their top game of all time VS Disco Elysium I'm obviously picking the latter every time because at the very least they will have more interesting taste overall
>>716270692
its 133 now but yea they try to make up for # of reviews impacting too much and it doesn't always work out.
the site in general is shit in terms of functionality and UI which is why I use backloggd for tracking what I play but they do have better taste

>>716270812
Literally the only good game on that list is ALTTP

Honestly embarrassing list.

>>716270976
>Editions are low rating count, so its inflated
Witcher 3 still has a 4.3, a high score. That point you made that W3 isn't highly rated is just bad, I don't know why you're still standing on it.
Dad of War is clearly not on par with W3 or RDR2 in terms of storytelling, no reason to even argue this point seriously
>i think you are RDR2 fan anon
Maybe you could consider me a fan of RDR1, I played RDR2 for the story but it's not a very fun game to play especially on replays. So yes it is overrated, but still not as painful to play as W3. Dad of War may have better gameplay but that's a very low bar that's not worth mentioning, it doesn't really excel at anything.

>>716270812
>Mega Man X
play more action games, one of the most overrated games of all time. Braindead Simon Says gameplay, offers no challenge or replayability, bosses and level designs are extremely basic, you just sit there and facetank their weakness while they die in a few seconds barely damaging you.

>Hollow Knight
Legit fucking garbage abomination of a metroidvania. Shame they ruined decent combat and gamefeel with some of the absolute worst map layout, insane amounts of backtracking tedium, shoehorned Souls mechanics (ironic for someone that hates FromSoft games, considering this is one of the absolute WORST implementations of Souls mechanics), little sense of progression, and just repeatedly terrible design decisions in every aspect of the game

>Super Mario 64
The SINGLE most overrated game of all time.
>the game with the worst camera on earth
>that makes you replay each level 6 times
>with some of the most nonsensical and frustrating physics
>where you turn like a boat, ricochet off walls like a bouncy ball, struggle to walk up a slight incline, and literal invisible walls are scattered throughout levels
>with a dozen different jump variants when all you want is a fucking camera that is actually looking where you're going instead of shoved up Mario's asshole

>Smash Bros Ultimate
Zoomer-core garbage, has like 150ms of input lag and dogshit netcode, nobody who was alive when Melee was popping would ever have this anywhere near their list. This entry alone outs you as an underage little shitstain.

>Celeste
Super Meat Boy for trannies. Extremely lazy level design, just make a series of jumps that can just barely be done in the game space and then fill in every gap with instant death hazards.


This is why you post 3x3s, so we can see that you are an absolute fucking retarded brown zoomer shitstain with the most garbage taste imaginable which is why you have such awful takes.

>>716271580
>Fromdrone calling one of if not the most revolutionary game of all time overrated
>Also anything I don't like was made for trannies

just recency bias, and the fact that games have far more resources than ever before. Compare the budget of the biggest, most expensive game from the 90s or early 2000s to GTAV or really any AAA game from the last few years that has a budget of over 100mil+

>>716271580
It's not often you see someone miss Mario 64 this bad.
>Absolutely incredibly camera for 1996 standards, when games like Crash had to stick to 1 angle or others had god awful tank controls. It'd take other non-Nintendo games years to catch up to Mario 64's camera.
>Replay each level, but you have different objectives each time you're in that level
>Physics that are fluid as hell with the exception of come collisions and edges
>Turns aren't precise but he can turn around on a dime. Again, it would take other games years to catch up to this considering fucking Tank Controls were a norm.
>A dozen different movement options that make the game a blast to master, and maybe you should zoom the camera out or change its angle?

babies constantly overreact to Mario 64's camera when they haven't seen an actually bad camera in their lives.

>>716271580
>he unironically got filtered by Mario 64, a game for literal toddlers
kek, you're opinion is fucking worthless dude

>>716270529
So you think backloggd's top 10 is better?

>>716271846
It was a good 3D tech demo, it was an absolutely dogshit game. It is praised in ONE aspect, the movement, while every other aspect of the game is just glazed over despite being fucking terrible.

But even the movement is terrible, Mario controls more like a vehicle than a human, he turns like a boat, he needs 5+ seconds to reach full speed like he's a fucking minivan, he struggles climbing even slight inclines, he ricochets off walls like a bouncy ball even at low speed, the physics are unrealistic and nonsensical, levels are filled with invisible walls because apparently no one tested the game, the camera is constantly moving where you don't want it and getting obscured by random bullshit, and even after you fix it, you take five steps, and it fucks up again. This is why the platforming, level design, enemy design, and hazards are so dull and basic, and why they had to pad out the game by making you retread each level a half dozen times.

>>716271952
Nope, I've played hundreds of 5th and 6th gen games and Ape Escape and Mario 64 have the worst cameras by a mile.

>>716257262 (OP)
what filter are you using? this isn't their top

>>716272376
Retard.

>>716272376
top rated vs popularity but top rated is retarded because a game with 20 reviews can easily have a higher score because of like 5 people

>>716272376
Now THIS is a list I can get behind. All of these games are pretty good except Elden Ring and Hades

>>716270812
Reminder this is the same anon that said
>You're a normalfag casual with shit taste
to another poster and then goes on to post this garbage without a hint of irony or self-awareness

LMAO

>>716257262 (OP)
>The Great Ace Attorney 2 in 11th place
Really? I liked it well enough, but I wasn't expecting it to be so highly rated. It's certainly not my favourite Ace Attorney game.

>>716268376
>Max Payne 2 but no Max Payne 1
>Sonic 2 but no Sonic 1
>Metal Slug X but no Metal Slug 1 or 2 (X is just a downgraded version of 2)
>Crash 3 but no Crash 1 or 2 (seriously what the FUCK??? 3 is the worst game by far, Crash 1 and 2 are CLASSICS)
>Splinter Cell but no Chaos Theory
>NG2 but no NGB
>GTA3 but no literally any other GTA game instead
>Super Mario 64 but no actually good Mario game
bro wtf is this list

>>716272518
>ignoring Soi of War and 2 year FOMO trash which is 10 billion times worse than those two
Way to out yourself.

>>716270812
>Celeste
The ACKers are here.

>>716270812
This is the obvious discord mod taste.

>>716257262 (OP)
yeah man this is some weird bait. I must be out of touch.

>>716270683
Are you the retard from earlier that was shilling E33?

>>716270812
Oh nevermind, you're a samefagging retard.

bananza's pretty good desu

>>716275918
Nintendo EPD has been on the top of their game for awhile now.

>>716270067
And you wonder why everyone else calls you drones when you post shit like this.

>>716276471
Post your 3x3

>>716277247
So you can samefag your own post like you did with the another anon you were responding to? No thanks.

>>716258497

>>716258182
Because GAA1/2 (combined) are better than AAI2, as well as the original trilogy. It's basically the greatest VN of all time.

>>716259553
>the ones I left arent that great
Yup

>>716279905
>It's basically the greatest VN of all time
You really need to read more VNs if you believe that.

>>716280269
I can't even tell if you're falseflagging at this point.

>>716279445
>he literally can't fucking do it
Lmao

>>716279905
>GAA1 Case 2
>GAA1 Case 4
>Both tutorial cases lasting way too long
>Parts of the greatest VN of all time

>>716280383
Dude Ace Attorney is the entry level of entry level.

>>716262302
>Imitating Super Mario games, takes away their ideas (aka stole) and get all the praise! retards really reward such behavior huh?
hmm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CDVshu9a4U

>>716280506
That's besides the point. Shitposting about every VN ever while posting Cristina images is getting obnoxious at this point.

>>716280660
Christina is always based. I don't think you should turn this into an obnoxiousness measuring contest because the AA fanbase can be pretty annoying too.

>>716280602
And we can just say that took moving and jumping and dodging obstacles from Donkey Kong, or screen scrolling platforming from Major Havoc.

>>716257262 (OP)
Neither KCDs should be up there even though I like 1 miles ahead of 2

>>716280269
read a book you tranny faggot

>>716281785
You should unironically read more books if you actually think GAA is in any way good. Seriously the most entry level mystery novels have better writing than that shit.

>>716280818
And you being a Christinafag shitposting about other VNs all day will always be annoying.

>>716279817
Mediocre Asian woman

shit on my taste please

>>716282618
VNs are not games. VNs are not books. Fuck off retarded weeb subhuman

>>716282618
DMC3 and MGS1 are horse shit but the rest are pretty good anon :)

>>716282819
Which one of those is a VN?

>>716282951
Metal Gear Solid is a soft VN

>>716281896
VNs are not games. VNs are not books. Fuck off retarded weeb subhuman

>>716282951
responded to the wrong post.

>>716283095
>VNs are not games. VNs are not books
What are they then. Novel is literally in the name you turbo nigger

>>716257262 (OP)
>>716257515
>>716257984
>>716262302
It's recency bias because
A. Young people use these sites more often
B. It's easier to catalog, review, etc newer games than it is to review your entire years long backlog

>>716283205
>A. Young people use these sites more often
You didn't even bother to do the slightest bit of research before you made that retarded statement did you? The average age of backloggd users is 32.

>>716257262 (OP)
RDR2 is trash. You must turn off your brain to enjoy it.

>>716282618
>worst MGS of the trilogy
>worst Spyro of the trilogy
>inferior Deus Ex game
why tho?

>>716283304
>>inferior Deus Ex game
contrarianism isn't a personality anon

>>716283304
>Worst Spyro of the trilogy
lmao

>>716257262 (OP)
looks pretty good when you have soulframe, borderlands 4, battlefield 6, dying light the beast and gta 6 as the next pillar of western gaming.

>>716283304
>>worst Spyro of the trilogy
But Spyro the Dragon isn’t on there.
The official list is
>Spyro 2
>Spyro 3
>Spyro the Dragon

>>716283374
>Deus Ex HR being worse than Deus Ex 2000 is contrarianism

>>716283554
HR is widely regarded as the best deus ex game if you left your echochamber you would know that

>>716283402
>>716283517
1 was unique and soulful and is just a very chill vibes/comfy game with very tight pacing that doesn't outstay its welcome and nothing else out there plays like.

Spyro 2/3 are just generic shitty platformers full of tedious minigame garbage.

>>716257405
>Astro Bot
Hmm...both of those games are nowhere near as good as the others on the list. I wonder what they have in common that might be inflating their scores.

>>716283615
lmao by what fucking metric? Am I in some alternate dimension right now?

>>716283617
>the parts of the game which the sequels are heralded and praised for are actually the shitty part
contrarianism is not a personality.

>>716283821
Most people regard the sequels as inferior. Clearly if you enjoy stupid minigame crap, you will enjoy Spyro 2 and 3. I was bored to tears.

>>716283617
>and nothing else out there plays like.
Literally plays like early Sonic games, just in 3D.

>>716283901
No the fuck it doesn't at all, like not even close. What the fuck are you talking about? Have you ever played Sonic 1-3 in your life?

>>716283790
Nigger the only people that played the first deus ex are geriatric boomers that have mostly died off by now (TotalBiscuit) or are on their way out. HR is the most beloved and popular one just by process of elimination

>>716283863
>Most people regard the sequels as inferior.
Source?
I think if you look at sales, critic reviews and consumer reviews, you’ll find reality doesn’t line up.

>>716283958
alright you made the bait too obvious this time

>>716284038
It's not bait tard
Most people that know of Deus ex know it from the modern games

Damn, nobody tell blud which Spyro received the highest positive feedback/scores and sold the best.

>>716283971
Spyro 1 outsold both sequels.

>>716284174
Even fans will tell you Spyro 3 is the worst one, not surprising critics got it wrong. Same critics who gave DK64 a 90 on metacritic

>>716284297
>even fans
the 8.8 is right there bro

>>716284414
There are many games like this where the general public/casuals love it, but you dig deeper and among the actual fanbase, it's almost universally the opposite to the popular consensus. Similar with TotK and Dragon's Dogma 2, you look at the fanboy user reviews and the shill critic reviews and everything looks great, but you talk to the actual discerning fans and it's a bloated piece of shit that is 1 step forward, 2 steps back. You have to remember most people played these games as a child, and a child will be drawn more to stupid minigames than a unique and atmospheric dreamlike vibes game.

>>716284598
>no not those fans, the only fans that count are the fans that agree with me, the discerning high-IQ fans like myself
lol not even attempting to argue in good faith.

>>716284786
uhh.. yeah? would you respect a capeshit basedboy's opinion of The Godfather?

>>716284905
I would listen to a spectrum of opinions. Your appeal to authority is fallacious. What if I have a degree in game development? By your logic, you should always listen to me because I would be the most qualified and “discerning” person.

>>716265021
>TLOU
Lmao

>>716285413
>muh appeal to authority is fallacious

>>716283517
onus probandi

>>716283821
strawman
ad hominem

>>716284174
ad verecundiam

>>716283971
argumentum ad populum
ad verecundiam

>>716284786
ad hominem

shut the fuck up you pedantic nigger retard. don't even attempt to say what makes Spyro 2 and 3 better, just say "buh the retarded cattle prefer them!!" then cry "muh fallacy" when it's suggested you look at opinions a bit more discerning than retarded nostalgic children on metacritic.

>>716286313
argument from fallacy

>>716286513
>>716285413
Fallacy fallacy

seethe fedora nigger

>>716286513
>>716286313
11 minutes to come up with this, the most blatant feeding of my posts into ChatGPT to try and form a refutation.

>>716286603
>accusing original posts of being chatGPT
new fallacy unlocked

People don't use ratings properly anymore, if they like something they give it a 9 or 10/10 always. Nobody is objective with their reviews anymore its a lost art, and anytime someone tries to review a game properly they get harassed by braindead retards.
Nobody knows how to handle disagreeing with eachother in 2025

>>716257262 (OP)
>all that literal trash
normgroids are a plague

>>716257947
the entire list is garbage, this is the list i would make of the worst games ever made

>>716259352
all of those are F---- turbonigger retarded faggot tier, get taste, shithead cocksucker

>>716286782
I find it really hard to assign ratings to games because is it about fun, how engaging/addicting it is, emotional impact, overall game quality, long-lasting feelings/changed perspective, uniqueness/lack of similar games (whether at the time or still now), amount of content, how it is now, how it was at release, how impactful it was, technical aspects, price, patches/romhacks vs. original experience, original playthrough vs. replays, the highest highs vs. the overall experience as a whole, original vs. port/remaster, etc.

There is just way, way too many factors to consider, so I just give it a rating/ranking based on overall vibes from a combination of all those factors.

>>716286782
The issue with reviewing like this is you review games highly that you don't actually enjoy or care about just because you feel an obligation to do so. A fun, engaging, ambitious game that lingers in your mind long after finishing, even despite its blemishes, should always be rated higher than a game that is merely good and just ticks the boxes with no obvious objective flaws.

>>716287664
>should always be rated higher than a game that is merely good and just ticks the boxes with no obvious objective flaws
yes because no such game exists in the first place, other than simple games like maybe tetris or pong

>>716284598
>but you talk to the actual discerning fans
OoToddlers are not Zelda fans.

>>716257262 (OP)
>Bot farms based in Asia reflect popular opinion

>>716259009
Intensely Indian post.

>>716283615
HR is extremely consolized, the level design is way worse and the writing is outright embarrassing.

>>716285413
>degree in game development
Ruru rumao.

>>716290001
if you put down your digital children's toys and picked up a book you'd find the writing in the original deus ex embarrassing as well