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Anonymous No.716303397 >>716303629 >>716304294 >>716305035 >>716308796 >>716309149 >>716310891 >>716313261 >>716313725 >>716316235 >>716318230 >>716318740 >>716319525 >>716320275 >>716322734 >>716333325 >>716333423 >>716334060 >>716343043
>opponent plays control
Yep, that's a timeout!
I'm just not gonna play with you.
Anonymous No.716303509 >>716303645 >>716304294 >>716305569 >>716305720 >>716312526 >>716314059 >>716333423 >>716351261
>crying about a 2 mana spell when this exists
lmao @ your life
Anonymous No.716303629
>>716303397 (OP)
Just go under them and beat them to death with aggro creatures
Anonymous No.716303645 >>716303858 >>716313850
>>716303509
That's one card while counter spam is an entire color's identity
Anonymous No.716303858 >>716303963 >>716308663
>>716303645
Duress, Ego Drain, Inquisition of Kozilek, Dread Fugue, Cabal Therapy, yadda yadda yadda
Anonymous No.716303963 >>716304167 >>716304717 >>716319173
>>716303858
Nobody runs all of those together, you're not likely to see more than 1 of them per match.
Meanwhile every bluetroon does nothing but counter everything you do until they have their instant win condition ready.
Anonymous No.716304167 >>716304247 >>716305408
>>716303963
Mono black discard is a viable strategy. Thoughtsieze is better than counterspell in the early game
Anonymous No.716304247 >>716304717
>>716304167
That has nothing to do with the topic
Anonymous No.716304294
>>716303397 (OP)
>>716303509
>not playing a dimir cancer deck where you scry and tutor for more cards to remove everyones fun and accomplish nothing for 30 minutes
Anonymous No.716304301 >>716304552 >>716318821
ENTER
Anonymous No.716304552
>>716304301
Kino card
Anonymous No.716304717 >>716304872
>>716304247
You just said >>716303963 nobody would ever run a bunch of black discard and there are people who do exactly that
It’s way more annoying than having to deal with counter spells
Anonymous No.716304759 >>716304963
See you think you're inconveniencing me, but in addition to enjoying the game itself, I also derive satisfaction from making people seethe out. I can just do shit on my other screen while you rope.
Not just control either. I still remember the long streak of ragequits when I played a cancerous Lurrus deck, good times.
Anonymous No.716304872
>>716304717
Orzhov Pixie/Esper Pixie was even a top tier deck a while ago and the main gameplan there is to bounce Hopeless Nightmare to rip your enemy's hand apart
Anonymous No.716304963 >>716305451
>>716304759
Whenever I play a card like Phyrexian Portal or double the effect of Breach the Mulitverse in Brawl, the other guy always proceeds to use all of his timeouts.
Just scoop if you’re gonna walk away.
Anonymous No.716305035
>>716303397 (OP)
control is fun, get gud
Anonymous No.716305048 >>716305298 >>716308437 >>716309016 >>716310846 >>716310914 >>716314442 >>716319450 >>716351352
Anonymous No.716305260
I like playing green...
Anonymous No.716305298
>>716305048
i half expected her to be a nigger
Anonymous No.716305408 >>716306967
>>716304167
It's a bad strat because discard cards turn to dead cards very quickly
Anonymous No.716305451
>>716304963
I mean yeah, that'd be ideal, but since people are intent on acting immature and trying to annoy others rather than simply conceding, may as well have a laugh about it.
Course it also feels like the threshold some people have for not wanting to play vs a deck is lower and lower, back during ONE I ran a simple Urabrask's Forge deck and some people sharted and went for timeouts the second I got it rolling because god forbid they put a first strike in their deck or something
At least I could understand some of the frustration with the nearly non-interactive poison/proliferate decks at that time lmao
Anonymous No.716305504 >>716305546 >>716305725 >>716305791 >>716305867 >>716306967 >>716309170
take the pauper pill
Anonymous No.716305546
>>716305504
This deck looks boring as fuck desu
Anonymous No.716305569 >>716308914 >>716317250 >>716317371
>>716303509
Thoughtseize is always tempo negative.
Anonymous No.716305658 >>716309008
Anonymous No.716305720 >>716311039 >>716323334
>>716303509
Enjoy bro
Anonymous No.716305725 >>716305810 >>716305874
>>716305504
pauper is metafagged up just like every other format and most decks arent cheap anymore so fuck that
Anonymous No.716305791
>>716305504
the market always wins, no matter the format and game
Anonymous No.716305810
>>716305725
>he doesn't have 40 bucks
NGMI
Anonymous No.716305867
>>716305504
can't even tell which archetype is this supposed to be
>undying evil and a bunch of persist creatures
is this scam?
Anonymous No.716305874 >>716306004 >>716311623
>>716305725
every format is going to be metafagged retard
Anonymous No.716306004 >>716306134
>>716305874
the exact reason i just go to EDH since it's casual
Anonymous No.716306134 >>716306318 >>716307095
>>716306004
CEDH is a thing (a very cancerous one I'd say)
Anonymous No.716306318
>>716306134
Yeah and it's cordoned off for the autists and doesn't at all affect me
Anonymous No.716306967 >>716313714
>>716305408
8 rack and Lantern Control were good enough decks in modern before they started doing FIRE design. It did about as well as any UW control deck looking to counter everything you do
>>716305504
Pauper is boring as fuck. People think it’s legacy-lite, but doesn’t come anywhere close to legacy
Anonymous No.716307095 >>716312391
>>716306134
Nobody plays that shit. Competitive players want to play the real game instead of EDH
>Woah! He Demonic Consultationed into Thassa’s Oracle! Again!
Anonymous No.716307339
I wish i could afford to play irl commander but alas I'm broke and stuck playing commander on Arena instead.
Anonymous No.716308342
>it's another omniscience into second sun deck
Anonymous No.716308437 >>716308594
>>716305048
that's really the best they could come up with for MJ?
Please tell me they at least made a fun "when this creature dies" card for Gwen Stacy and it's not just the stupid alt universe girlspider one
Anonymous No.716308594 >>716308728
>>716308437
You fool, you absolute buffoon
Of course it's fucking spider-gwen bullshit, why would you for a SECOND think they'd do something fun with that crossover
Anonymous No.716308663 >>716309163
>>716303858
for me it's hymn to tourach
Anonymous No.716308728 >>716309016 >>716309025
>>716308594
because this game used to be good and I can't quite let that go
Anonymous No.716308796 >>716310964 >>716312697 >>716346184 >>716346586 >>716346806
>>716303397 (OP)
nothing personnel, kid
just BTFO'ing all blue retards and actually making this a vidya thread
Anonymous No.716308914
>>716305569
So is leaving 2 blue up, with that logic.
Anonymous No.716308972 >>716309106 >>716309240 >>716309303 >>716312280
Who's idea was to turn white into a fucking jew color?
>pay 2 to attack for each creature attacking
>pay 2 when you draw or they get a treasure
>spells that target creature cost 2 more to cast
>spells played when its not your turn cost 2 mode to cast

Taxes, taxes taxes.
Anonymous No.716309008 >>716318961
>>716305658
this is shit.
Anonymous No.716309016 >>716309286 >>716309456 >>716309521
>>716308728
>>716305048
What the fuck happened with MtG that they decided to go full overdrive with retarded ideas and ruining the game? Did digital card games broke them?
I don't mind the Secret Lair stuff and crossovers but it's all they do now and even then it's dumb stuff.
Anonymous No.716309025
>>716308728
Neither can I, but I've just learned to expect the worst and maybe, sometimes, be mildly pleasantly surprised
Anonymous No.716309106 >>716309184
>>716308972
Because Black covers death, so the other inevitability needed a representation
Anonymous No.716309149 >>716309249
>>716303397 (OP)
>complaining about counterspell of all cards
>when green players cried so hard that the color became creatures that are 1GG: 5/5, ETB Draw six cards, fight target enemy creature, add GGG to mana pool. LTB: Return creature to the battlefield with four +1/+1 counters on it. Escape: G, Exile 1 card from your graveyard
Anonymous No.716309163
>>716308663
For me it's ritual to specter
Anonymous No.716309170
>>716305504
Just order a bunch of proxies from some printing side or etsy.
Stop giving the cancer secondary "market" money
Anonymous No.716309184
>>716309106
Im making a death and taxes deck now.
Anonymous No.716309240 >>716309682 >>716310680
>>716308972
Bureaucracy is a white thing.
Anonymous No.716309249
>>716309149
You forgot that when another creature enters it gets ten +1/+1
Anonymous No.716309286 >>716309408 >>716310169
>>716309016
>with retarded ideas and ruining the game
MTG has been a meme game for decades, stop pretending a spider-man card is what sent it over the top
>it's all they do!!!
they're releasing a new set in like, a week. and they had a new set 2 or 3 months ago. and another set 2 months before that. And ANOTHER set the month before then.
4 sets in 7 months is pretty good
Anonymous No.716309303 >>716312580
>>716308972
the people behind Legends, I guess.
mtg does have a weird issue with deciding new avenues for a color's identity based on like two or three cards from 1995 though I gotta admit
Anonymous No.716309345
I prefer this one
Anonymous No.716309408
>>716309286
>4 sets in 7 months is pretty good
it's overkill
Anonymous No.716309456 >>716310390
>>716309016
FF MTG made $200M in a day. Wizards revenue is up 30%. Hasbro’s however lost $700M.

We are in for the most retarded money grabbing bullshit. They will burn mtg to the ground to try to save Hasbro’s rotten corpse
Anonymous No.716309514 >>716310390 >>716313353
>Aetherdrift
That's it, I just needed to get it out of my system, I'm still not over it
Anonymous No.716309521
>>716309016
Each set has been progressively losing money, but at the same time they have to keep releasing more sets to keep what they can before it collapses.
Anonymous No.716309682
>>716309240
I think to counter it, would be for red or pirates to steal opponents treasure tokens, or have green have a Robin hood type card to steal treasure and escape taxes.
Anonymous No.716309739 >>716310454
I'm kind of a newfag to current MTG, can you guys help me with some ideas for my Brawl deck?
So far planning to replace Dragon Mage with the Copper Dragon and i probably wanna remove Rise of the Dark Realms and Siege Dragon, anything else i should remove or add?
Anonymous No.716310169 >>716310645
>>716309286
>4 sets in 7 months is pretty good
No, it's not. They shit out a bunch of cards to squeeze out some profit from retards who keep buying this shit.
>MTG has been a meme game for decades, stop pretending a spider-man card is what sent it over the top
I'm not but the enshittening has been far worse in the last few years (let's say around Arena). Just look at the mechanics or busted cards

There are bunch of formats nowadays and it's all just bullshit MtG was always a bit alienating to new players because precons are unusable for whatever reason and Standard, the beginner friendly format, is expensive as shit too.
Now if someone new wants to try out the game (eg. Arena), they're smacked on the head with all the formats and digital exclusive formats
Anonymous No.716310390 >>716310657
>>716309456
HOW
What the fuck is Hasbro doing?
>FF MTG made $200M in a day.
To be fair, TCG pack addiction is on a high thanks to the Pokemon meta that started years ago.
It also looks good
>>716309514
I think it's amazing that they've managed to get even worse
Anonymous No.716310454 >>716310729
>>716309739
>cavern of souls
>dragonlord kolghan
>cavern-hoard dragon
>ancient copper dragon
>goldspan dragon
>basically any GC
>any black tutor card
>twinflame tyrant
>dark ritual
>cabal ritual
>talisman of indulgence
>honestly surprised you don't have it, but Sol Ring
>black market connections
>bloodstained mire
>luxury suite
>blackcleave cliffs
>foreboding ruins
>haunted ridge
>mount doom
>raucous theater
take your pick.
biggest thing I'd say is your deck is like 80% red. remember you're black as well
Anonymous No.716310645 >>716311136
>>716310169
>They shit out a bunch of cards to squeeze out some profit
alright so is all they do crossover nonsense or do they shit out cards ad nauseam?
You can just say MTG is gay or whatever, no one is gonna argue with you, but you keep saying retarded shit that is wrong and contradictory.
>enshittening has been far worse
it's been dogshit since before hasbro bought it, then it became turbo dogshit. Any format besides kitchen table is gay nonsense and the game shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone at any level, and once you accept that you just learn to chuckle at the novelty of sonic the hedgehog and Avatar Aang fighting Nicol Bolas and Godzilla.
Anonymous No.716310657 >>716310816
>>716310390
>I think it's amazing that they've managed to get even worse
True, I thought we've reached the nadir with the Definitely-Not-Avengers-Endgame that was March of the Machine, and yet they continue to surprise me once in a while. Now I'm actually curious how they're gonna beat wack ass multiverse race (feat. dogshit art direction).
Anonymous No.716310680
>>716309240
Anonymous No.716310729
>>716310454
Thank you for the suggestions, i'll look througn these!
Few things tho
>dark ritual
Got that already, it's Darkness of Eternity.
>any black tutor card
Not many of them are legal in Arena or even in Arena sadly, my main options are Grim Tutor and Diabolic Intent.
Anonymous No.716310816 >>716311760
>>716310657
>I thought we've reached the nadir with the Definitely-Not-Avengers-Endgame that was March of the Machine
how hard do you think nosewater and pals are jerking themselves off over the fact they can make actual avengers cards now instead of relying on the jacetice league
Anonymous No.716310846 >>716310991
>>716305048
>Mary Jane is stronger than 2 bears
Power creep the gathering
Anonymous No.716310891 >>716324301
>>716303397 (OP)
>pissed controlfags off so bad they had to ban it in almost every format
Anonymous No.716310897
I love card games, and I love seeing children happy to open/look at/play with cards https://youtu.be/OaQcoa9xibc?si=M8XQxdZzMYu5IXmb
Anonymous No.716310914 >>716316686
>>716305048
Why did they put a description for Vigilance randomly
Anonymous No.716310964
>>716308796
I feel like most people will just build shado for his first ability
Anonymous No.716310991 >>716311752 >>716348295
>>716310846
but is she stronger than
Anonymous No.716311039 >>716311210
>>716305720
as a mono-red enjoyer who loves target changers and plays against black goodstuffs/hand hate all the time, that spell, while great, is limited pretty much to Seize.

99% of the other effects are like Duress, and unfortunately use 'target OPPONENT' instead. in 1v1 this makes redirects literally useless, since YOU are the only legal target. I honestly hate it from a design standpoint. fine if you're playing 4player commander, but its really un-interactable for all colors but blue in 1v1.
Anonymous No.716311136 >>716311267
>>716310645
>alright so is all they do crossover nonsense or do they shit out cards ad nauseam?
Crossovers make up a significant amount of their release schedule nowadays.
Regular MtG sets are just awful (eg. Aetherdrift)
They make a a lot of crossovers and shit out cards.
Anonymous No.716311210 >>716311838
>>716311039
When I redirect the spell, you are my opponent :)
Anonymous No.716311267 >>716311542
>>716311136
Show 2025's schedule
Anonymous No.716311491 >>716352991
Anonymous No.716311542 >>716311758 >>716311790 >>716312429
>>716311267
You mean when they started to slow down?
Anonymous No.716311623 >>716312043
>>716305874
Pauper is the format you stupid niggers have been shilling forever because it wasnt supposed to be full of metafags though
Anonymous No.716311752
>>716310991
But are 8 bears stronger than 1 hornet?
Anonymous No.716311758 >>716319126
>>716311542
>only one non-hat non-crossover set all year
Grim
Anonymous No.716311760
>>716310816
Not as hard as they would have back then, the IT PRINTS MONEY factor is far lesser since Marvel's been on a downward trend since Endgame, even according to some of their biggest fans
But you know, still pretty hard
Anonymous No.716311790 >>716311904 >>716338518
>>716311542
>half the sets are UBslop
>the other half are fucking bootleg wacky races and star trek
>the only actual set of the year was dragonstorm which assed up the plane yet again
as far as I'm concerned bloomburrow was the last hurrah and this game is officially dead
and no I'm not looking forward to lorywn 2 electric boogaloo why would you ever trust modern WOTC to not ruin something good from it's past, didn't you learn from neon dynasty
Anonymous No.716311838
>>716311210
It (sadly) doesn't work that way, which is why like I said, I hate it. It SHOULD work for exactly why you described. but it does not. because, you are not changing OWNERSHIP of the spell, the spells controller is still them. The game rules will let you cast the spell and it WILL resolve, but it will resolve changing the target RIGHT back to you.

Try it on MTGO or Arena. It's how it works. It ultimately makes sense. But it's dumb. Play rule of cool or resolve it how you will when playing at a table, go off. Thats how magic should be IMO. It should just work. pic related. its one of my favorite newer spells. Amazing flexability to fuck 5c goodstuffs nonsense in red. But hand hate? Oh sorry. Pay 3 mana do nothing hehe.
Anonymous No.716311904
>>716311790
>assed up the plane yet again
What the fuck did they do
Anonymous No.716312043
>>716311623
Sounds like EDH 10+ years ago.
Meanwhile I have cEDH proxy-friendly cash tournaments ten minutes from my house and I can't be assed to explore a meta that fucking gay.
Anonymous No.716312280 >>716312372
>>716308972
White is about 'order and structure', so the end result will be late stage capitalism. I wish we would get more white mana villains. I'm tired of WOTC using black/white as morality compasses despite them explicitly being designed to NOT be that.
Anonymous No.716312372
>>716312280
>I'm tired of WOTC using black/white as morality compasses despite them explicitly being designed to NOT be that.
If anything that's nuMTG, black was originally designed as the explicitly evil color.
Anonymous No.716312391
>>716307095
>it's another episode of nogames thinking cEDH only consists of turn 2 thoracle wins
post deck nigger, I bet you don't even play magic
Anonymous No.716312423 >>716323056
Why does having to think for a single second that the opponent might have an answer make MtGfags seethe to this day?
Anonymous No.716312429 >>716312510
>>716311542
>the "in universe" sets are:
>legally distinct wacky racers (aetherdrift)
>return to plane that used to be good
>pulp sci fi knock off
WOTC really is just out of ideas, aren't they?
Anonymous No.716312510 >>716312689 >>716312730
>>716312429
Revisiting Ravnica and Innistrad 3 times or so each didnt give that away for you?
Anonymous No.716312526
>>716303509
This card should always be standard legal like elf, no half measure bullshit like duress.
Anonymous No.716312580
>>716309303
Is it that weird? That's literally when Rosewater joined, and he's been very open about considering himself the arbiter of colour identity.
Anonymous No.716312689
>>716312510
I think it's really damning that the last two returns to ravnica were "legally distinct avengers endgame" and "legally distinct Clue (but also there's an actual Clue tie-in so uh)"
Anonymous No.716312697 >>716312947
>>716308796
>"shadow the hedgehog, huh?"
>look inside
>it's rakdos token army
Anonymous No.716312730 >>716312852 >>716312893
>>716312510
Even then we had creative new planes like amonkhet or eldraine after our third revisit to ravnica.
It didn't feel like they truly ran out of ideas until the nu phyrexia saga ended and they just tied all the planes together. There isn't even a greater story happening anymore, everybody is kind of just farting around.
Anonymous No.716312852
>>716312730
That's because they have to spend like two years "epically teasing" that the next not-Thanos is that one vanilla from Future Sight.
Anonymous No.716312876 >>716313025 >>716332483
Counterspells aren't the issue, 0 cost counterspells are. Force of Will, Pact of Negation, Force of Negation, Mindbreak Trap*.

*Mindbreak Trap is an actually decent one because it's typically in response to someone going off instead of denying a setup.
Anonymous No.716312893
>>716312730
What gets me is
>open up the planes because dude Omenpaths
>do fuck all with that aside from a wacky nonspecific race
>just go back to old planes again
Anonymous No.716312947
>>716312697
>Look at this jerry, look at it!
>It's shadow, shadow the hedgehog, on a magic card!
Anonymous No.716313025
>>716312876
Free spells is general shouldn't exist, but they make WOTC a lot of money so they continue to print them. Like the flare cycle.
Anonymous No.716313261
>>716303397 (OP)
>unsummon
>unsummon
>counterspell
>unsummon
>counterspell
I loved how counterspell let you counter everything
Anonymous No.716313353
>>716309514
I'm still so glad I skipped Pre-Release night because I slept in after Graveyard Shift. Heard it was a shit show from every LCS around me.
Anonymous No.716313432 >>716313514 >>716313523 >>716313709 >>716317353
I can't believe they printed this utter faggot card holy shit.
Anonymous No.716313514
>>716313432
Every set is just coomander bait now. I have to wonder why we even have standard anymore.
Anonymous No.716313523
>>716313432
Why? Because it looks like a fairy designed it? Welcome to numagic.
Anonymous No.716313690 >>716313826 >>716314190 >>716314407
Anonymous No.716313709 >>716319295
>>716313432
Should get him for Gonti deck.
Anonymous No.716313714
>>716306967
>8 rack
God I loved making fags seethe playing a like $20 deck at events
Anonymous No.716313725
>>716303397 (OP)
>noooooooo interaction is bad let me play my solitaire!!!!
Anonymous No.716313826
>>716313690
still baffled by the absolute cowards at the commander committee that didn't ban this shit when they had a chance because "nuuuuh it's too ingrained" while taking out the other problem cards before WOTC took them out back behind the shed and stole control of the format
Anonymous No.716313850 >>716323645 >>716347514
>>716303645
There are black decks built entirely around attacking your opponents hand, they're so much more cancerous to play against than any blue control deck
Anonymous No.716314059
>>716303509
discard and seeing their hand is good and similar but not equivalent
a big part of counterspells strength is that your opponent used their mana to cast that spell so you can effectively deny them a turn and even just the possibility of you having one and open mana can force them to play unoptimally
Anonymous No.716314190
>>716313690
If your opponents aren't paying enough attention it produces 2 colored mana.
Anonymous No.716314407 >>716314620 >>716314842 >>716315160 >>716333276 >>716345873
>>716313690
>every commander player claims it's a better format because there's no sweat
>every deck runs sol ring
lmao
Anonymous No.716314442 >>716314503
>>716305048
God I hope this flops, final fantasy did well but it fit the aesthetic better than half the recent in universe sets did, I wanna see players reject this.
Anonymous No.716314503 >>716314757 >>716314832
>>716314442
Nigga there's spongebob and MLP cards it's already over
Anonymous No.716314507
the other day I was on the draw ~40 games in a row
Anonymous No.716314620
>>716314407
And? If your deck can't beat Sol Ring it's not a real deck.
Anonymous No.716314757 >>716314873
>>716314503
Those were smaller side products and at least MLP gave us that fantastic Nightmare Moon sleeve in Arena.
Anonymous No.716314832
>>716314503
unironically the spongebob meme cards were when I finally gave up hope on this game ever getting its shit back together and accepted it's no longer for me
I only come back here to complain and very rarely reinstall MTGA to scratch the itch before seeing every deck built around frodo faggins and "we couldn't get the digital rights" spiderman before re-uninstalling it
Anonymous No.716314842
>>716314407
Sweatiness in commander is how much your deck cost. No one wants to play a normal commander game against a tricked out fast mana and free spells deck of any kind.
Anonymous No.716314873
>>716314757
Also speaking of sleeves how the fuck have they not added any sort of categorisation to the sleeve list. Is that too much to ask from small indie Hasbro.
Anonymous No.716315160
>>716314407
Sol ring was a mistake but they'll never remove it at this point.
Anonymous No.716315462 >>716315643 >>716316221 >>716316374
SLIVER MASTER RACE
Anonymous No.716315643 >>716315772 >>716315837 >>716316284 >>716317498
>>716315462
>Nusliver
I don't understand how they claim things like shroud or old slivers are too confusing but then print shit like dungeon.
Anonymous No.716315772
>>716315643
i love the classic slivers so much.
i havent played the nuslivers. my friend keeps telling me though they suck.
Anonymous No.716315837 >>716317120 >>716317530
>>716315643
fortunately it's easy to just house rule old sliver mechanics if you ever meet another sliverchad in a game
Anonymous No.716316221
>>716315462
r8 my sliver deck

4x sidewinder sliver
2x sinew sliver
3x venom sliver
4x cloudshredder sliver
1x crystaline sliver
4x manaweft sliver
2x muscle sliver
2x sentinel sliver
2x talon sliver
3x bonesythe sliver
2x sliver hivelord
2x sliver legion
1x constricting sliver

no enchants no artifacts no sorc/isntants
real sliverers only.
got 4x sliver hive though.
Anonymous No.716316235 >>716316352
>>716303397 (OP)
Guys help me
What's a good and possibly gimmicky deck for commander? I just wanna play with my bros at the /tg/ store but I never played mtg, I only play one piece and yugioh
Anonymous No.716316284
>>716315643
Because they are liars. It's not about complexity, it's about power level. Nu slivers by their very nature are stronger since they don't affect your opponents or randomly buff their shapeshifters.
Stronger versions = more sales.
Anonymous No.716316352
>>716316235
Just buy a precon and start from there. If you don't even know what you like yet it's impossible to really recommend anything.
Anonymous No.716316374 >>716316449 >>716316532
>>716315462
How we feeling?
Anonymous No.716316449
>>716316374
absolutely powercrept to hell.
i love it though.
that afinity really helps it actually get on the field.
Anonymous No.716316526 >>716316576 >>716316602 >>716316628 >>716316879 >>716317498 >>716322479 >>716323887
Thoughts?
Anonymous No.716316532
>>716316374
This will be a $40 rare despite seeing no play in any new formats.
Anonymous No.716316576
>>716316526
I am so fucking angry it doesn't include Monkey's and Ape's. Kibo will not take this laying down
Anonymous No.716316602 >>716317751
>>716316526
i know spiders are usual green or black but id really would have wanted all the spider mans to be black and red just for the fun of it.
Anonymous No.716316628
>>716316526
Where's the silver border?
Anonymous No.716316686
>>716310914
because these sets bring in new players
Anonymous No.716316879
>>716316526
I expect this to be one of the worst selling UB sets. Maybe if it was all marvel slop it'd do alright, but not just 1 IP like this.
Anonymous No.716317120
>>716315837
Sir this is the videogame board
Anonymous No.716317250
>>716305569
tempo is not everything, opponent kept his hand because it had 1 or 2 really good cards most of the time
Anonymous No.716317353 >>716317817
>>716313432
they always give up in brawl when I kill it with a sacrifich or minus spell
Anonymous No.716317371 >>716318860 >>716352221
>>716305569
If thats true why do so many people insta scoop to it? Why is discard one of the most hated archetypes ever printed?
Anonymous No.716317498 >>716317929
>>716316526
I think I'd like to see them expand on what they did with outlaw with creature types having inherent categories so you can just say other mundane animal types, realistically it will still need reminder text but you can maybe occasionally ditch the reminder text to fit more actual rules on a card and more importantly the card gets automatically updated with new creature types.
Of course outlaw does also lead to the same question as >>716315643
Anonymous No.716317512 >>716318189 >>716332256
I think people got used to counter spells, they did NOT got used to black stealing their cards, they fucking hate that shit
Anonymous No.716317530
>>716315837
Based sliverchad, I love those little guys they're adorable for weird worms.
Anonymous No.716317751
>>716316602
>black and red
blue and red
this is non-negotiable
Anonymous No.716317817 >>716318167
>>716317353
People quit over every little reason in brawl.
Anonymous No.716317929
>>716317498
I hate "outlaws" and all these other similar batching mechanics
it really feels like scraping the bottom of the barrel
>what if a card just cared about a random assortment of creature types currently relevant in standard and we called that the new mechanic?
Anonymous No.716318167
>>716317817
in standard brawl they give up after you interact with the board in any way
Anonymous No.716318189
>>716317512
>ninjutsu was brought back before infect
Fuck you too wotc.
Anonymous No.716318230 >>716318282 >>716318293 >>716318331 >>716318374 >>716318586
>>716303397 (OP)
What does "counter" mean?
Anonymous No.716318282
>>716318230
Yugioh fag moment
Anonymous No.716318293
>>716318230
AIIIIIEEEEEE
Anonymous No.716318331 >>716318545
>>716318230
The spell gets cancelled and doesn't resolve its affects
Some card games refer to it as negate
Anonymous No.716318374 >>716332654
>>716318230
Anonymous No.716318506 >>716324630
Wake me up when unglued is legal
Anonymous No.716318545 >>716318651 >>716318691 >>716324470
>>716318331
I thought counters were tokens you add to your card to represent power/durability being added?
Anonymous No.716318586
>>716318230
you pay 7 mana to play some big creature and opponent plays this spell and your creature goes straight to graveyard. people hate blue control because they would counter fucking everything that matters
Anonymous No.716318651
>>716318545
No, tokens are temporary cards from outside your deck that are created by other card effects.
Anonymous No.716318691 >>716319107
>>716318545
They are, although +1/+1 counters are far from the only type of such counter
Counter simply refers to 2 different things in MTG
I think if they were to remake the game from the ground up today they probably would call it negate though.
Anonymous No.716318740 >>716319223
>>716303397 (OP)
>OK, you counterspell? I play summoning trap for free due to my previous creature summon being canceled and draw into... oh hey, my boy. Cool. Your turn :)
Anonymous No.716318821 >>716320635
>>716304301
Oh that could be really nice for my humans only deck
Anonymous No.716318860
>>716317371
Little timmy wanted to play his hecking epic carderino next turn.
Anonymous No.716318961 >>716320542
>>716309008
It's really not that bad if you play cards that let you cheat out equipment from hand
Anonymous No.716319107
>>716318691
>I think if they were to remake the game from the ground up today they probably would call it negate though.
MTG2 doesn't have counters, counters, tokens, the stack, or even lands.
Anonymous No.716319126
>>716311758
To be fair they got into this position by making their main sets gay and lame
Anonymous No.716319173
>>716303963
>Meanwhile every bluetroon does nothing but counter everything you do
Not every blue deck runs Urza's lands, thought.
Anonymous No.716319223 >>716319675
>>716318740
Modern mtg art will never be like this again.
Anonymous No.716319295 >>716320651 >>716348175
>>716313709
>Cunny Acquisitor
Anonymous No.716319383 >>716319602 >>716319675 >>716319891 >>716320078 >>716322197 >>716322445 >>716322751 >>716323064 >>716323361 >>716325361 >>716327532 >>716338656 >>716340954 >>716345380 >>716346076 >>716346164 >>716346504 >>716350990 >>716353578
Post your favorite MTG creature.
Anonymous No.716319450 >>716319748
>>716305048
Is that an actual attractive white redhead woman with perfect curves and fair skin?
Magic is healing.
Anonymous No.716319451 >>716338762
Some might call it ub slop but this is still my favorite card in the game thanks to its art, love this guy as my commander
Anonymous No.716319525
>>716303397 (OP)
Still better than a timeout because the opponent is going first aka YGO
Anonymous No.716319602 >>716332308
>>716319383
He's just cool.
Anonymous No.716319675
>>716319223
Real shame honestly, such dreamlike qualities to it
>>716319383
You posted it but my second favorite non ub has gotta be my girl Sigarda
Anonymous No.716319748 >>716320102 >>716322793 >>716344996
>>716319450
They're probably gonna have her get blacked
Anonymous No.716319891 >>716320012 >>716320072
>>716319383
Anonymous No.716320012 >>716320171
>>716319891
Wow i didn't know creatures in 94 were THIS bad
Anonymous No.716320072
>>716319891
Why is he literally -10
Anonymous No.716320078 >>716320525
>>716319383
Anonymous No.716320102
>>716319748
Literally just make Aragorn white and i would have made a commander deck with him but these faggots valued being gay and lame over my money
Anonymous No.716320171 >>716320253 >>716320328
>>716320012
yeah but he fuckin looks cool
magic needs to bring back evocative art like this
Anonymous No.716320253
>>716320171
Can't argue with that.
Anonymous No.716320275 >>716354563
>>716303397 (OP)
luv this maymay
Anonymous No.716320328 >>716320642
>>716320171
True. Like I think this artwork is really great on selling an unsettling vibe even if I would never use its effect. And there were a lot of cards like this that just looked fucking cool. It's kinda why I liked the final fantasy set since the artists clearly tried
Anonymous No.716320525 >>716320852
>>716320078
First Strike Infect is so fucking evil.
Anonymous No.716320542 >>716324554
>>716318961
>equipment
Anon she grabs any artifact
Anonymous No.716320635
>>716318821
Heavy controls often run wasteland just in case.
Anonymous No.716320642 >>716321889
>>716320328
fyi save images from scryfall for better quality
Anonymous No.716320651 >>716320879
>>716319295
It's okay, he hides it somewhere nobody else will ever get to see it.
Anonymous No.716320852 >>716321085
>>716320525
I miss Infect i wish it was in Arena
Anonymous No.716320879
>>716320651
In his heart?
Anonymous No.716321085
>>716320852
Just play Forge anon, don't give wotc your money.
Anonymous No.716321263
Anonymous No.716321889 >>716322017
>>716320642
Gonna keep it a buck, it took me long enough to remember how to spell that shit that I took the first image I saw
Anonymous No.716322017 >>716322878 >>716324661
>>716321889
not that anon but you could have just used their search feature and typed in "lose game 13 life" for the rules text to pull it up
Anonymous No.716322197
>>716319383
Anonymous No.716322445
>>716319383
Anonymous No.716322479 >>716322791
>>716316526
Insanely cringe millenial pun quirk humor.
Anonymous No.716322734
>>716303397 (OP)
>Still playing crossover slop
Anonymous No.716322751 >>716323283 >>716326848
>>716319383
Anonymous No.716322791
>>716322479
He's been a thing since the 80s anon
Anonymous No.716322793
>>716319748
>They're probably gonna have her get blacked
That would be hot af
Anonymous No.716322878 >>716322958
>>716322017
What I hate most about UB is that it has retroactively ruined Innistrad for me.
As a rare one-off Innistrad was great.
Now I see it as the major start of UB and the
>Theme, but MtG
Slop we got for years that led to the errosion of Magics IP.
Anonymous No.716322958 >>716323315 >>716326521
>>716322878
Wouldn't that be kamigawa first
Anonymous No.716323056
>>716312423
It mights all card players seethe, have you seen the absolute rage handtraps produce in ygo? And budew is one of the most hated cards in pokemon. Little timmy wants to play his cards and anything that prevents him from it will make him angry.
Anonymous No.716323064
>>716319383
This and Royal Assassin
Anonymous No.716323140 >>716323235 >>716331529
I wish I was making this shit up.
Anonymous No.716323235
>>716323140
Anonymous No.716323283
>>716322751
Game Actions: The Card
Anonymous No.716323315
>>716322958
Kamigawa flopped and staved it off for several years. Innistrads success is the issue. Ironicaooy Garfield coming back is what killed the series.
Anonymous No.716323334 >>716331525
>>716305720
*pays 2*

Lmao try again, get thoughtseized shitter
Anonymous No.716323361
>>716319383
Anonymous No.716323437 >>716323573
Can you imagine the bearded sΓΆygoys that are unironically excited over the spiderman set?
Anonymous No.716323573 >>716324349 >>716331529
>>716323437
It's not going to top record selling Final Fantasy, that's for certain.
Anonymous No.716323603
dare you challenge the italian mutt?
Anonymous No.716323645
>>716313850
>spend mana to make your opponent discard what they might have played vs make your opponent spend mana to discard what they definitely wanted to play
Counter is slightly worse but seeing blackniggers and blueniggers point fingers at each other like either is tolerable disgusts me.
Anonymous No.716323878 >>716324004
>Inquisition of Kozilek
>Thoughtseize
>Liliana of the Veil
>Wrench Mind
>Duress
>Raven's Crime
>finally, lay down this bad boy

Lmao enjoy controlling the game with all your nothing. gg blueshitters
Anonymous No.716323887 >>716332664
>>716316526
I HATE PUNS
I HATE PUNS
I HATE PUNS
What was the point of making up a keyword for his second ability besides introducing a PUN?
Anonymous No.716324004
>>716323878
If this artwork came out today it would be called transphobic.
Anonymous No.716324301
>>716310891
>That brief period of time playing this on my modern infect deck
Good times were had.
Anonymous No.716324349 >>716324486 >>716324793
>>716323573
>literal newsroom reporters could kill Cloud Strife and live to tell the tale
Anonymous No.716324470
>>716318545
That counter(noun), completely different from counter (verb).
The english language is retarded like that.
Anonymous No.716324486
>>716324349
It's like 4 vs 1 don't be unreasonable
Anonymous No.716324554
>>716320542
Yeah but a lot in the ff set complements equipment
Anonymous No.716324630 >>716332891
>>716318506
>You literally can make an infinite chicken dance with this combo
Who wins in that case?
Anonymous No.716324661 >>716324909
>>716322017
>13 utensils hanging
>13 lines of blood
>13 rivets on barrel
>13 logs in stove
>stone arch made from 13 stones
>stone stove made from 13 stones
>13 fragments on floor
>wall made from 13 planks
>ceiling made from 13 planks
Anonymous No.716324702
Fuck you, get frogged
Anonymous No.716324793
>>716324349
To be fair that's beating bombing mission baby level cloud, the other cloud in the set could kill them at least
Anonymous No.716324909
>>716324661
Never noticed the wall or ceiling, that's great
Anonymous No.716325361 >>716337483
>>716319383
Anonymous No.716326521
>>716322958
wouldn't it have been arabian nights earlier
Anonymous No.716326848
>>716322751
There he is
Anonymous No.716327532 >>716330137
>>716319383
it's vivi time
Anonymous No.716330137 >>716330760 >>716331685
>>716327532
>cast my entire hand then do it again for free
>oh also you take damage everytime I do lol
What were they thinking
Anonymous No.716330534
When I'm bored of getting raped on my stupid tribal decks i oneshot people with Vito
Anonymous No.716330760 >>716331181 >>716334245
>>716330137
They were thinking "Removal is so good nowadays we can print a creature that says you win and it won't do shit". And they were kinda right.
Anonymous No.716331181
>>716330760
I mean not really tho, Vivi completely raped standard and is insanely obnoxious in commander too.
Blue of all colors is best equipped to protect Vivi and can quickly spiral with it.
Anonymous No.716331525
>>716323334
>turn 3 thoughtseize
you already lost
Anonymous No.716331529
>>716323573
>>716323140
>shit we can't have every single creature be legendary in this set
>fuck, just demote some named characters and make them generic
it's impressive how stupid this set is and we've barely seen any of it
Anonymous No.716331667 >>716335302 >>716335453
Rat enjoyer anyone?
Anonymous No.716331685 >>716331979
>>716330137
It occupies the space with shit like Light Paws, where it's not good enough for cedh but too good for most casual tables
Anonymous No.716331979 >>716332175
>>716331685
Vivi is absolutely good enough for CEDH. Maybe not top-tier but certainly competitive.
Anonymous No.716332175 >>716332690
>>716331979
It's much worse than stella lee.
Anonymous No.716332256
>>716317512
steal, you say?
Anonymous No.716332308 >>716332359 >>716332874
>>716319602
>compleat
Anonymous No.716332359 >>716332874
>>716332308
It's a phyrexian thing
Anonymous No.716332483 >>716332567
>>716312876
Free spells are bad, but the genie is out of the bottle now and getting rid of them would make the game far worse.
Anonymous No.716332567 >>716332914
>>716332483
It really wouldn't
Anonymous No.716332654 >>716332812 >>716352261
>>716318374
man this almost seems like a joke
why would you ever want to put a counter on a countered spell? it would already be out of play anyway, right? is it just extra text to fuck with us? or does it actually have implications for countered activated abilities?
man fuck blue
Anonymous No.716332664
>>716323887
>making up a keyword
That's not a keyword, it's defined in the rules (207.2c) as a flavor word with no mechanical significance
Anonymous No.716332690 >>716333395
>>716332175
nta but vivi actually has two card infinites no? like that shouldn't be enough?
Anonymous No.716332812 >>716333930
>>716332654
>this almost seems like a joke
Anonymous No.716332835 >>716333026 >>716333219 >>716333231 >>716333593 >>716340281
How much longer til WotC abandons DEI?
Anonymous No.716332874
>>716332308
>>716332359
It's also an actual word from the 16th century.
Anonymous No.716332891 >>716334483
>>716324630
can you? i thought activated abilities that don't actually add new effects can't be played again
Anonymous No.716332914
>>716332567
Okay, well enjoy every eternal format being plagued by turn 1 combos
Anonymous No.716333026
>>716332835
Don't hold out hope for this ever happening unless they're forced by Hasbro for whatever reason or a fascist revolution happens.
Anonymous No.716333071
Anonymous No.716333219 >>716333424
>>716332835
Everytime WotC must collaborate with company who keeps strict image for their IP.
Anonymous No.716333231 >>716333319
>>716332835
if anything MTG is poised for perpetual trooning. 1. people buy the cards regardless, just avoiding the singles and treatments they think are gay and 2. go play some mtg and you'll see an overwhelming amount of troons. our commander knight was so packed that they were sending randoms to tables of 4 and I was literally paired up with 4 troonpals for a game and boy, did they get salty over fucking Magar of all commanders
Anonymous No.716333276 >>716333598
>>716314407
Doesn't ever precon come with sol ring? Its not like its a sweat card
Anonymous No.716333319 >>716333448 >>716333469 >>716333487 >>716333590
>>716333231
> 1. people buy the cards regardless, just avoiding the singles and treatments they think are gay and
literally not true. People bought FF much more than Lord of the Rings because there was zero trooning
Anonymous No.716333325 >>716333540 >>716333698 >>716333702 >>716333883 >>716334897 >>716335115 >>716336149 >>716337836
>>716303397 (OP)
I want to get into magic. I got into Yugioh a bit when Duel Links came out freshly and there were few cards and you know the rest of the story with how the new cards coming out added on top and felt good. But what's a good way to experience Magic so I can fight with decks, learn about decks other than youtube and build decks with fun.
Anonymous No.716333395
>>716332690
If the two-card infinites were faster, sure. stella has 2-card infinites with more redundancy, but in both cases, you're in shit colors to actually get the cards to win
Anonymous No.716333423
>>716303397 (OP)
>>716303509
Thanks for reminding me why blueblack is the funnest decks
Anonymous No.716333424
>>716333219
>four guys between us, lets not keep cloud waiting
Anonymous No.716333448
>>716333319
I think that's more because FF introduced a huge new audience to the game while the Venn diagram between LOTR nerds and MTG players already overlapped a lot more.
Anonymous No.716333469 >>716333960
>>716333319
Lord of the Rings is the second-best selling set of all time
Anonymous No.716333487 >>716333607 >>716333906
>>716333319
tranime is inherently trooned up. characters like gogo and mog and kefka and terra rep the t-community
Anonymous No.716333540 >>716333883
>>716333325
>I want to get into magic
don't
Anonymous No.716333590 >>716333960
>>716333319
?
lotr was the highest selling set of all time until ff came out.
Anonymous No.716333593
>>716332835
They wont. And they already ruined LOTR with it, so it doesn't really matter.
Anonymous No.716333598
>>716333276
Would be stupid to ban the card and make all precons unplayable right out of box. Sol Ring is quite sweaty card for it's colorless ramp, especially if your starting hand also includes Arcane Signet or other staple 2 cost mana rock.
Anonymous No.716333607 >>716334198
>>716333487
That's some stupid shit you just wrote
Anonymous No.716333698
>>716333325
You could buy a precon with a friend and start from there, irl.
If you don't want to spend money you can try mods on tabletop simulators, where you import decks from tapped out or other sites(where you can also bukld your own decks) or one of the many online clients.
If you want a singleplayer thing, try mtg forge.
Anonymous No.716333702 >>716338965
>>716333325
you have two choices
>Standard
Its the default 60 card format designed for playing the game. Its fun but also competitive. You build decks around a said style of play and then play rounds usually.
This format is the intended way for beginners to learn the game. LGS stores usually encourage beginners and will loan you decks etc to learn.
>Commander
This format is different. 100 card decks, 1 copy of each card only except basic lands. This format is more your casual player format. Its often played with 3-4 players at a table. Decks are designed around a theme or a playstable of the commander card. The commander is a card on the field that is your main hero basically. This format is mainly designed for casual play. Buying a precon or preconstructed deck is usually how you learn with others.
Thats the jist of it.
I started with Commander and ill say, I recommend learning Standard first even if it is harder at first.
Anonymous No.716333883
>>716333325
this
>>716333540
unless you have friends to play with, magic is beyond retarded.
Anonymous No.716333906 >>716334198
>>716333487
Nigga terra is SEX
Anonymous No.716333930 >>716334027
>>716332812
well yes, of course, the joke with the card is obvious. but I wasn't sure that it was an actual card.
Anonymous No.716333960 >>716334112 >>716334196 >>716334280
>>716333590
>>716333469
Why are you guys saying that as if it contradicts me? There's two big UB sets, one that trooned and one that didn't. The one that didn't sold multiple times more than the other, I wonder what that means!
Anonymous No.716334027
>>716333930
It is an actual card. It's part of a joke set.
Anonymous No.716334060
>>716303397 (OP)
>Counterspell
That's fair, it's no different than any other removal spell
However if by the time I'm stuck topdecking you STILL insist to do nothing but counter and bounce my permanents at the end of turn then yes, I am going to rope you. Advance your own wincon or I'm going to waste your time like you're wasting mine.
Anonymous No.716334112 >>716334361
>>716333960
because if it was the trooning, nobody would've bought lotr.
Anonymous No.716334196
>>716333960
>trooned out set sells multiple times more than any other set, including the dozens of non-trooned sets from the beforetimes
>until the weebshit set (inherently troon-coded) came along
Anonymous No.716334198
>>716333906
just like every t-girl imagines. terra also turns into some sorcerous monstrosity.
>>716333607
okay xir
Anonymous No.716334245 >>716334324
>>716330760
Vivi is the top deck in standard right now, and played in a lot of other formats as well.
Anonymous No.716334280
>>716333960
tranime is automatically trooned up, bro. you are living in a fantasy world
Anonymous No.716334324 >>716334503
>>716334245
and that's AFTER getting slapped with a huge wave of bans meant to make it less heinous
Anonymous No.716334361 >>716334493 >>716334626
>>716334112
au contraire, if it wasn't for the trooning, everyone would've bought Lotr.
it actually had a much stronger marketing jab with having a 1/1 unique card as well as being made for eternal formats (cards are never gonna rotate)
Anonymous No.716334483
>>716332891
Really? I haven't hear of this rule.
Anonymous No.716334493
>>716334361
>cards are never gonna rotate
completely irrelevant, Standard is dead in the water and only barely gets considered in the design stage
Anonymous No.716334503 >>716334578 >>716334650 >>716334685
>>716334324
They didn't nerf vivi's deck at all they nerfed all the surrounding decks
Anonymous No.716334557
>Opponent still plays MTG
>In 2025
Yep, that's it.
I'm just not gonna play with you.
Anonymous No.716334578
>>716334503
Gotta sell more FF cards one way or another
Anonymous No.716334626
>>716334361
?
bro everyone did buy it. it literally made magic so mainstream people started playing it in bars and shit.
Anonymous No.716334650
>>716334503
Losing Monstrous Rage was still a big hit to Vivi even if it wasn't big enough
Anonymous No.716334685
>>716334503
>They didn't nerf vivi's deck
bro, vivi was literally seeing play in the best deck (izzet prowess), yes it was massively nerfed
Anonymous No.716334897
>>716333325
Just download mtg arena and play
Anonymous No.716335031 >>716335115 >>716335169
>want to play magic
>wallstreet has decreed that magic is now commander
Fuck commander. I have dozens of 60 card decks, mostly tuned for janky multiplayer fun. taking them apart and admitting that normal magic has been killed by wallstreet is not something I will ever do.
Anonymous No.716335115 >>716335334
>>716333325
Find some friends and proxy the cards
>>716335031
Can't you like play both?
Anonymous No.716335169 >>716335334
>>716335031
>normal magic
>60 card janky multiplayer fun
Anonymous No.716335302
>>716331667
rat feet
Anonymous No.716335334 >>716340053
>>716335115
Most of my playgroup has taken apart their normal decks. If I want to play I have to submit to the rampy comboland of commander.
>>716335169
Yes faggot, the best magic is taking a pile of cards you opened up and fighting your friends with them. Commander says no fun allowed you can't choose to run more than 1 of a card and you have to make the deck a specific size. Try doing aggro, mill or burn in commander without some absurdly powerful modern card that says commander on it.
Anonymous No.716335371 >>716335654
Is this the thinly veiled master duel thread?
Anonymous No.716335453 >>716335535 >>716335590
>>716331667
Rats used to be so cool, now it all looks like furrybait
Anonymous No.716335535 >>716335614 >>716335665
>>716335453
>he says, posting a decade old example of furry bait
Anonymous No.716335563
>opponent playing green/blue malice
>I cast Lancea for 1 mana and opponent quits
It's that easy folks
Anonymous No.716335590
>>716335453
i don't understand. this is like the quintessential furfag zoophile initiation card and it's 20 years old
Anonymous No.716335614
>>716335535
and still much better then the obvious furry fetish art in this thread
Anonymous No.716335654 >>716335837
>>716335371
I miss Master Duel man, the client was so nice.
If only YGO wasn't the worst TCG ever made.
Anonymous No.716335665
>>716335535
>decade
two decades. wizard has been fucking with furfags dicks for at least that long, probably longer
Anonymous No.716335669 >>716335793 >>716335889 >>716336097 >>716336674 >>716341536
Persistent reminder: EDHfags are the scourge of MTG and brought the plague funkopop collabs and hat sets.

Kill an EDHfag at your LGS to help improve the environment.
Anonymous No.716335793 >>716336210
>>716335669
competitive 60-card fags would literally be killed en masse by edh players. there are way more normalniggers that play edh that could take on at least 5-10 60-card homosexuals per normie and edh fags outnumber 5 to 1
Anonymous No.716335837
>>716335654
Yea TCG is fucking trash, in every capacity cardboard is inferior to digital. That goes for all card games, especially ones that can't have a stable market for affordable meta decks, mtg being the worst of the worst is depressing.
Anonymous No.716335889 >>716335985 >>716340278
>>716335669
I agree with all of this but
>no cards in sets released after fallout
Makes no sense.
Anonymous No.716335985
>>716335889
it's a tabletop sim screenshot so I assume the room was made just after fallout was released and the cards after that were all pre-release and not legal for play yet
Anonymous No.716336097
>>716335669
EOE printed mainly for Standard and cucked EDH fags. You won for now.
Anonymous No.716336149 >>716338965
>>716333325
You really, REALLY, don't.
1. You don't want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to catch up on your collection, just so you can become competitively viable.
2. It's a shit game that is designed poorly.
3. There are better games out there, for cheaper. Newer, better designed games that don't require you to go broke just to catch up with the meta.
4. Even those games are a waste of time and money since the whole selling point of TCGs, creative deck making and collecting, flies straight out of the window when there is always the mathematically proven objectively correct and only deck to play. Every card outside of that one deck is just a trap that wastes your money.

Don't do TCGs, kids.
Anonymous No.716336210 >>716336415
>>716335793
Yea, EDHfags weigh 500lbs and cause hospitals to come to agreements with circuses and zoos to treat them when they come in for their diabeetus foot
Anonymous No.716336247 >>716340475
No more control
Anonymous No.716336415 >>716336480 >>716339784
>>716336210
bro, glass houses
Xmage Shill No.716336478
If you're looking to play any of the good formats and you dont want to take out a loan to buy/rent decks on MTGO consider joining XMage, a cross-platform, open-source MTG client with automated rules enforcement. People play all the cool formats here like modern, legacy, vintage, premodern and even commander for totally free and you dont even need to register or make an account on anything
Anonymous No.716336480 >>716336637
>>716336415
those are EDHfags, GPs are for casual retards who talk about Their Commander and gush over buying $5000 alters
Anonymous No.716336637 >>716336756
>>716336480
>umm... actually this 60-card constructed GP{ is secretly commander players!
it's literally the cream of the crop 60-card lardasses
Anonymous No.716336674
>>716335669
lmao get staxed.com
Anonymous No.716336756 >>716336879
>>716336637
>GPs
>cream of the crop
literally the FNM of REL events
Anonymous No.716336879
>>716336756
it's all 60-card players bro. sorry
Anonymous No.716337408
Post beautiful cards
Anonymous No.716337483
>>716325361
>SWAMP
>DARK RITUAL
>SPECTER
>INSIDIOUS BOOKWORM
>MY TURN IS OVER
Anonymous No.716337638 >>716337721 >>716338042 >>716346451
oldschool magic was the best.
Anonymous No.716337721
>>716337638
Pre-modern looks like a pretty fun format, but only because the content being uploaded right now is by turbo casuals who refuse to play the 2 standout meta decks.
Anonymous No.716337836 >>716338965
>>716333325
just play arena without spending money
Anonymous No.716338042 >>716338481
>>716337638
I like the old cart designs.
Anonymous No.716338481 >>716338576
>>716338042
nu-frames were the biggest mistake in MTG history, just after the reserve list
Anonymous No.716338518
>>716311790
Neon Dynasty was cool though, and had actual mechanics, and good card art.
Anonymous No.716338576 >>716338649
>>716338481
They release the cards with old frames as special versions.
Anonymous No.716338619
Pre-Fate Reforged format when? The new timeline sucks dick
Anonymous No.716338649
>>716338576
Which just proves how horrendous the nu-frames are. Nobody chooses to play if, everyone wants the old cards or alt arts to get away from their garbage corpo garbage focus group art decision
Anonymous No.716338656 >>716338827
>>716319383
The most racist goblin to ever live
Anonymous No.716338762
>>716319451
Nah these cards are based since they're actually cool crossovers that can feasibly fit into a setting about wizards and shit.
Anonymous No.716338827 >>716339435
>>716338656
This nigga is my pet card and has won me multiple EDH games because everyone keeps forgetting what it does. They either forget that it's indestructible and just kill themselves with a Blasphemous Act, or they forget he has an active ability and they can't circumvent it by just not attacking me.
Anonymous No.716338965
>>716337836
kinda like master duel huh..hopefully I can check out a magic game that are like the many yugioh offline games that have you collect cards and build decks they go crazy.

>>716333702
thanks fren commander sounds cool but I'll definitely learn standard first

>>716336149
desu I'm not interested in playing irl. I've been a yugioh fan for a long time nothing too intense but I've never played it properly irl I'd prefer to play a game where I can get all the cards for free similar to yugioh pro or pokemon showdown
Anonymous No.716339220 >>716339513 >>716340925
Mountain.
Rite of fla- Rite of flame!
Seething so- Seething so- Seething song!
I cast... Dragon Storm!
I search my deck for five different 6/6 dragon cards that now give each other trample and haste, and I drop them straight into play on turn 1!

It's over Yugi!
Anonymous No.716339435
>>716338827
I also include him in basically every deck I can. He's good for just about anything you can think of using him for. Blasphemous Act being one of the most played cards in EDH, period, also makes him into a hilarious nuke if people dare to use it... or you can just play it yourself.
Anonymous No.716339513 >>716339875
>>716339220
You could just search for four Bogardan Hellkites and win on the spot then and there, though.
Anonymous No.716339604 >>716339686 >>716339928
I feel like MtG would be the perfect game for me, but I dont want to learn a gazillion spells and speld a googolplex dollars on a casual game. What'd've are the vidya for this?
Anonymous No.716339686 >>716340227
>>716339604
Magic Arena?
Or just proxy shit
Anonymous No.716339784
>>716336415
Reminder this guy got permad for this
Anonymous No.716339875
>>716339513
Anime needs the tension tho.
The villain can't be too competent.
Anonymous No.716339928 >>716340227
>>716339604
Arena, standard format (not alchemy, its full of custom online only slop). Only have the last 3 years worth of cards, and its pretty f2p friendly.
Since its an online client it also handles all the rules interactions for you while you learn.
Anonymous No.716340053 >>716340104 >>716340328 >>716340687 >>716340727
>>716335334
>the best magic is taking a pile of cards you opened up and fighting your friends with them
That's what commander is all about retard.
Anonymous No.716340104
>>716340053
that's sealed/draft, anon.
Anonymous No.716340227
>>716339686
>>716339928
In retrospect I suppose it was a silly question, thanks brehs
Anonymous No.716340278
>>716335889
Otherwise faggots bring power nine like cards that are old, scarce and expensive as fuck.
Anonymous No.716340281
>>716332835
Jews will never stop destroying everything we love.
Anonymous No.716340328
>>716340053
No, commander has become an optimized format, with precon decks being sold at every LGS. Obviously your play group can make their own rules for the format, but you could do that with any format you wanted.
Anonymous No.716340475
>>716336247
I'd rather just play voice of resurgence.
Anonymous No.716340550
Best Magic is no Magic.

Take a shower and play a better game nerds.
Anonymous No.716340585
>muh aggro
>muh midrange
>muh control
COMBOCHADS RISE UP
SOLITAIRE IS TRVE MTG
Anonymous No.716340687
>>716340053
Commander doesn't let me play with more than 1 of the same card. What if I want a playset of lightning bolts?
Anonymous No.716340727 >>716342959
>>716340053
>That's what commander is all about retard.
lmao, fucking deluded commandertards

EDHREC TELL ME WHAT TO ADD, I NEED THE OPTIMAL POWER TO ADD TO MY $10K DECK
Anonymous No.716340925 >>716341281 >>716343843
>>716339220
Well played, Kaiba. However, you have forgotten a crucial element.

Your Dragonstorm allowed you to search your deck for quite a few dragon cards... which means, naturally, that you have searched your library.

After your first Dragonstorm resolves, I cast all of my Archive Traps, which now cost 0! And I happen to have drawn four of them in my opening hand, milling you for 52- and leaving you entirely without a library, meaning the succeding copies of Dragonstorm cannot search for anything- and you die next turn, Kaiba!
Anonymous No.716340954
>>716319383
For many, it was Shivan Dragon. For me, it's his extreme cousin.
Anonymous No.716340975
I like EDH, but I do not like how every standard set is clearly designed to pander to it now. Every other rare is legendary. With every other multicolor spell being unusable trash outside EDH, and having no synergy with the actual set it came in.
It's also one of the reasons why card effects are so fucking long now.
Anonymous No.716341281
>>716340925
AAAAAAAAAAAHHH-!
*disintegrates*
Anonymous No.716341358 >>716341492 >>716341536 >>716341724
Why doesn't MtG Arena have commander if its so popular?
Anonymous No.716341492
>>716341358
Too much work to implement all cards and it would lower their amount of sales to the biggest simp market. Gotta keep the EDHfags churning through product
Anonymous No.716341536
>>716341358
because as soon as an edhfag cant put in their 100 retarded house rules like >>716335669 they get armageddoned once and quit
Anonymous No.716341724 >>716341995
>>716341358
It was designed to be a hearthstone clone (even has a format with a bunch of waaacky random effects), so its not designed to support 4 player.
If you want online commander you can play MTGO.
Anonymous No.716341893
>couldn't afford anything other than T2.5 standard decks
>Leave game, get a good job
>can now afford good modern decks
>game has gone to shit
Feels so fucking bad.
Anonymous No.716341995 >>716342172
>>716341724
*XMage
*Cockatrice
Anonymous No.716342172
>>716341995
I'd honestly rather pay for MTGO cards than deal with retards in cockatrice public lobbies. MTGO has retards too, but at least I don't have to police their playing
Anonymous No.716342650
>haven't played since born of the gods
>decide to try the game again
>spiderman, falltout, lord of the rings and fucking final fantasy
>cowboy hat set, racing car set, cluedo set
eh
Anonymous No.716342959 >>716343216
>>716340727
How is that different from any 60card format? At least commander has actual casual tables in real life. All other constructed formats are 100% sweats all the time.
Anonymous No.716343043
>>716303397 (OP)
>archetype's theme is about intelligence, strategy, and out-thinking your opponent
>while other archetypes have to actually out-think their opponent, the one whose theme it is just has to play "Out-Think your Opponent" and they win
>while other archetypes have specific weaknesses that they have to think about and cover, this archetype can just ignore all of its own weaknesses while exploiting the other guy's
>it's actually the simplest and most braindead archetype despite being themed after being the smartest
>incredibly overpowered despite its simplicity
Anonymous No.716343216 >>716344663
>>716342959
>NOOOOO IT'S JOEY'S TURN TO WIN THIS EDHGAME THE WHEEL OF WINNER SAID SO
>STOP IT, STOP PLAYING CARDS, LET JOEY WIN
>MOOOOOOOOM, KICK RYAN OUT OF THE HOUSE HE WON'T LET JOEY WIN
EDHtards are a fucking living embarrassment. I wish all your cardboard would perish in a housefire.
Anonymous No.716343843
>>716340925
you could have went with Mindbreak Trap and yet you went for the comically unlikely one good job
Anonymous No.716344209 >>716344459 >>716344539 >>716345412
edh is the tard format.
Anonymous No.716344459 >>716344683 >>716345125
>>716344209
Nobody cares about compfagging, real Aryans are funpilled now.
Anonymous No.716344539 >>716344570 >>716344793
>>716344209
I'm too poor for vintage, and its not in MTG arena :c
Anonymous No.716344570
>>716344539
MODO vintage is really cheap once you get past the pain of buying the manabase
Anonymous No.716344663
>>716343216
>EDHtards are a fucking living embarrassment.
very true, i just play tiny ass critter niggas to make each nigga discard a card and the table goes apeshit, its not even a tergrid deck
Anonymous No.716344683
>>716344459
>funpilled
>only buys and plays with the EDHrec ratings above a certains threshold
right...

just because you're incompetent, doesn't mean you're not tryharding
Anonymous No.716344720 >>716345026 >>716346905
>opponent hits you with the unexpected uno reverse card

So are you paying the 1 mana for your turn 1 Sol Ring anon?
Lol, lmao even
Anonymous No.716344793
>>716344539
Just print cards out no one cares
Anonymous No.716344804 >>716344885
>play edh
>change a single card in my deck
>my deck is now in the LITERALLY HITLER category and nobody will play me
it's so hilarious
Anonymous No.716344885
>>716344804
It really does depend on which card because it's a format ubiquitous for running tutors. Which means you could consistently get it
Anonymous No.716344982
https://moxfield.com/decks/5dRj66uKmEWqwbfugITiHA
Anonymous No.716344996 >>716345207
>>716319748
Why did they keep Arwen faithful to the films but made Aragorn black
Anonymous No.716345026
>>716344720
I exile my Simian Spirit Guide and pay the 1.
Anonymous No.716345076 >>716345304
>Yea, I'm gonna plow your commander to prevent you from going infinite and winning the game
>he scooped up all his cards, left the table/LGS and went home
the mature and funpilled EDH audience
Anonymous No.716345125
>>716344459
People who played this game before you cared more about going to their lgs for fnm and winning prizes
Anonymous No.716345207 >>716345465
I hate the LotR set art so fucking much.


>>716344996
interracial couple, because apparently human and elf wasn't enough
Anonymous No.716345304 >>716345453
>>716345076
nooooooooooo you have to let him take his 40-minute long turns while he masturbates his infinite combo or you're a FUN-KILLER.
Anonymous No.716345380
>>716319383
Anonymous No.716345412
>>716344209
>not the version with the Legacy table (it's empty)
Anonymous No.716345425 >>716345647
>city used to have 3 stores
>Now only has 1
>Said store used to have modern 3 times a week, plus standard FNM, plus draft and legacy
>Now only has 1 modern night, standard and draft don't fire, and the only reason why people show up is for commander
It's so fucking bad.
Anonymous No.716345453
>>716345304
I have no issue with people scooping when I pull off some wacky bullshit, but people who sit there on arena for 2 whole minutes when they lose should just find a new hobby
Anonymous No.716345465
>>716345207
The Anato Finnstark stuff is incredible thougheverbeit

Btw here's my Frodo deck

https://moxfield.com/decks/fSG0BE52AUCtB9d_dhHqbw
Anonymous No.716345610 >>716345829 >>716345845
Surreal that they actually printed this nonsense, this had to have been a "jump the shark" moment.
Anonymous No.716345647
>>716345425
Same shit happened to me. I started a new career that involved leaving my hometown when they started killing off big events and constructed FNM’s. I thought I’d still be able to use Magic to make new friends in new towns, but wotc wanted to milk edgfags instead. Don’t even know where my modern deck is anymore
Anonymous No.716345829 >>716345986
>>716345610
If you can't respond to something sorcery speed and telegraphed, then you're garbage at this game.
Anonymous No.716345845 >>716346214
>>716345610
Please understand we needed to buff Tron.
Anonymous No.716345873 >>716345992
>>716314407
Congratulations, you have finally understood that "Commander is the casual format" really means that since you can't really care about winning in a multiplayer format then you funnel all of your efforts into "winning" by having the fanciest deck or the most blinged out cards, or the deck with the best theme, etc, etc...

It is even more of an arms race than competitive 60 card formats ever were.
Anonymous No.716345986
>>716345829
spoken like a true edhtard
Anonymous No.716345992
>>716345873
EDH will always be more casual on the basis of larger decks and more opponents. If you play with bumbling retards that still haven't comprehended the basic fundamentals of deck building, and no one responds to threats, yeah you'll be miserable.
Anonymous No.716346076
>>716319383
The one and only.
Anonymous No.716346164
>>716319383
Without question
Anonymous No.716346184
>>716308796
could be an amazing cEDH commander if it wasn't BBRR
Anonymous No.716346214
>>716345845
>That time Tron got a 4 mana planeswalker that enabled wishboard combos with Mycosynth Lattice
Whoever was in charge of the initial FIRE design was clearly a huge UG and Tron player
Anonymous No.716346362 >>716354847
I like drafting and I hope the space opera set is good for drafting.
Anonymous No.716346431 >>716346939 >>716347079
EoE is the result of a failed Mass Effect collab, right? Everything feels like a "lemme copy your homework" version of Mass Effect
Anonymous No.716346451
>>716337638
With EOE out, you can actually make a really fucking good suicide black deck - not that it matters because that playstyle just gets dumpstered now.
Anonymous No.716346504 >>716346757
>>716319383
Played this deck for about 3 years
Him and Temur Battle Rage are fucking amazing.
>Block with a 1/1? Take 23, bitch!
Anonymous No.716346586
>>716308796
Technically, you just made this less of a vidya thread, because the card in the OP is on Arena and this won't be.
Anonymous No.716346757
>>716346504
>type in card name followed by "scryfall" into Google images
>save image
>post those instead
It's that shrimple
Anonymous No.716346806
>>716308796
>play Shadow cEDH deck
>have Obama on loop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tM0Sow-2r8
Anonymous No.716346905 >>716346982
>>716344720
Mana tithe is one of those funny cards I can never be mad about. Now if they keep giving white more counters I'll have an issue.
Anonymous No.716346939
>>716346431
No, EOE is the result of Mark wanting to make the most recent un-set standard legal. Thankfully, the most powerful card in the set is a great Impulse variant and all of the other cards are weak / too parasitic to see much play so you don't see much of it anywhere.
Anonymous No.716346982 >>716351798
>>716346905
Anonymous No.716347079 >>716347190 >>716347219
>>716346431
>Everything feels like a "lemme copy your homework" version of Mass Effect
Huh?
I'm not an expert on Mass Effect, but last I checked it doesn't have the equivalents of any of this shit.
Anonymous No.716347190
>>716347079
Best thing about the set is no humans, and you know what that means... no ni
Anonymous No.716347219 >>716347473
>>716347079
see, it's simple
>monoists: humans
>eldrazi: krogan
>drix: asari
>angels: protens
>kavu: turians
>eumidians: salarians
>tezzeret: shepard
it just maps perfectly
Anonymous No.716347225 >>716347413
tee hee
Anonymous No.716347339 >>716347540 >>716347561
Mtg in Forge client.

Deck: Knight Legion

Main:
2 Adeline, Resplendent Cathar
15 Plains
2 Cave of the Frost Dragon
1 Scroll Rack
2 Acclaimed Contender
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Sol Ring
1 Anointed Procession
4 Student of Warfare
2 Knight Exemplar
2 Knight of Cliffhaven
4 Idyllic Grange
2 Gavony Township
1 Wrath of God
2 Cathars' Crusade
2 Land Tax
2 Kinsbaile Cavalier
1 Pearl Medallion
3 Venerable Knight
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Worthy Knight
2 Selesnya Sanctuary

Sideboard:
2 The Circle of Loyalty
2 Griffin Guide
2 Armageddon
2 Wrath of God
4 Disenchant
3 Return to Dust

What do you guys think? Any tips, suggestions welcome.
Anonymous No.716347413 >>716347549 >>716347638
>>716347225
>12 mana 3 card sorcery speed set up
Anonymous No.716347473
>>716347219
>monoists: humans
The monoists are a nearly entirely black (heh) faction that wants to exile others and themselves. Last I checked that's not what the humans want to do.
>>kavu: turians
Kavu are mainly miners and far more like the Kavu from MTG. Their whole lore is that they blew up their whole planet mining it out.
>angels: protens
But these angels are still around
>eldrazi: krogan
lmfao WHAT?

10/10 bait, got me to reply
Anonymous No.716347514
>>716313850
What are those decks called? Do they have a name?
Anonymous No.716347540
>>716347339
And then almost death and taxes. But went full agro.

Deck: White Challenger 2022- MOD - OPD

Main:
2 Smothering Tithe
2 Reidane, God of the Worthy
2 Monk of the Open Hand
2 Cave of the Frost Dragon
2 Esper Sentinel
3 Codespell Cleric
2 Portable Hole
2 Kabira Takedown
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Gird for Battle
3 Elite Spellbinder
16 Snow-Covered Plains
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Cathar Commando
1 Gavony Township
1 Intrepid Adversary
1 Maul of the Skyclaves
2 Sungold Sentinel
3 Paladin Class
4 Luminarch Aspirant
1 Selesnya Sanctuary
2 Skyclave Apparition
2 Fateful Absence
Anonymous No.716347549
>>716347413
making EDHtards suffer is worth the investment

also 1 Replenish would make this happen
Anonymous No.716347561 >>716347762 >>716347918
>>716347339
what is that Selenysa Sancutary for?
Anonymous No.716347638
>>716347413
>12 mana
nigga doesn't know about replenish
Anonymous No.716347762 >>716347918
>>716347561
Bounces the Idyllic Granges, and 2 mana.
Anonymous No.716347918
>>716347762
>>716347561

And it combos with Gavony Township, to add counters.
Anonymous No.716348175
>>716319295
Anonymous No.716348295
>>716310991
It would be a 16/16 dumbass, Bears are 2/2.
Anonymous No.716350990
>>716319383
Huge sentimental value to me, one of my favorite cards from back when I started playing 23 years ago. Him, Akroma, Phage, Arcanis and Avatar of Woe.
Anonymous No.716351261
>>716303509
not standard legal dumbass
Anonymous No.716351352
>>716305048
>worse aerith
LMAO
Anonymous No.716351798
>>716346982
This and the back to hand one I don't like.
Anonymous No.716352221
>>716317371
Because it's not fun to play against? Why waste time playing against a time-wasting deck where my only option is playing my topdeck?
Anonymous No.716352261
>>716332654
how esl do you have to be to fuck up what this card does that badly
Anonymous No.716352991
>>716311491
mark poole is a faggot
Anonymous No.716353578
>>716319383
As a young teen I thought this motherfucker was the coolest guy ever.
Still kinda do.
Anonymous No.716354563
>>716320275
>hides his opening hand in screenshot
you were called the fuck out and pussied out on an anonymous image board.
Anonymous No.716354847
>>716346362
there's an infinite already so don't get your hopes up