>opponent plays control
Yep, that's a timeout!
I'm just not gonna play with you.
>crying about a 2 mana spell when this exists
lmao @ your life
>>716303397 (OP)Just go under them and beat them to death with aggro creatures
>>716303509That's one card while counter spam is an entire color's identity
>>716303645Duress, Ego Drain, Inquisition of Kozilek, Dread Fugue, Cabal Therapy, yadda yadda yadda
>>716303858Nobody runs all of those together, you're not likely to see more than 1 of them per match.
Meanwhile every bluetroon does nothing but counter everything you do until they have their instant win condition ready.
>>716303963Mono black discard is a viable strategy. Thoughtsieze is better than counterspell in the early game
>>716304167That has nothing to do with the topic
>>716303397 (OP)>>716303509>not playing a dimir cancer deck where you scry and tutor for more cards to remove everyones fun and accomplish nothing for 30 minutes
>>716304247You just said
>>716303963 nobody would ever run a bunch of black discard and there are people who do exactly that
Itโs way more annoying than having to deal with counter spells
See you think you're inconveniencing me, but in addition to enjoying the game itself, I also derive satisfaction from making people seethe out. I can just do shit on my other screen while you rope.
Not just control either. I still remember the long streak of ragequits when I played a cancerous Lurrus deck, good times.
>>716304717Orzhov Pixie/Esper Pixie was even a top tier deck a while ago and the main gameplan there is to bounce Hopeless Nightmare to rip your enemy's hand apart
>>716304759Whenever I play a card like Phyrexian Portal or double the effect of Breach the Mulitverse in Brawl, the other guy always proceeds to use all of his timeouts.
Just scoop if youโre gonna walk away.
>>716303397 (OP)control is fun, get gud
>>716305048i half expected her to be a nigger
>>716304167It's a bad strat because discard cards turn to dead cards very quickly
>>716304963I mean yeah, that'd be ideal, but since people are intent on acting immature and trying to annoy others rather than simply conceding, may as well have a laugh about it.
Course it also feels like the threshold some people have for not wanting to play vs a deck is lower and lower, back during ONE I ran a simple Urabrask's Forge deck and some people sharted and went for timeouts the second I got it rolling because god forbid they put a first strike in their deck or something
At least I could understand some of the frustration with the nearly non-interactive poison/proliferate decks at that time lmao
>>716305504This deck looks boring as fuck desu
>>716303509Thoughtseize is always tempo negative.
>>716305504pauper is metafagged up just like every other format and most decks arent cheap anymore so fuck that
>>716305504the market always wins, no matter the format and game
>>716305725>he doesn't have 40 bucksNGMI
>>716305504can't even tell which archetype is this supposed to be
>undying evil and a bunch of persist creaturesis this scam?
>>716305725every format is going to be metafagged retard
>>716305874the exact reason i just go to EDH since it's casual
>>716306004CEDH is a thing (a very cancerous one I'd say)
>>716306134Yeah and it's cordoned off for the autists and doesn't at all affect me
>>7163054088 rack and Lantern Control were good enough decks in modern before they started doing FIRE design. It did about as well as any UW control deck looking to counter everything you do
>>716305504Pauper is boring as fuck. People think itโs legacy-lite, but doesnโt come anywhere close to legacy
>>716306134Nobody plays that shit. Competitive players want to play the real game instead of EDH
>Woah! He Demonic Consultationed into Thassaโs Oracle! Again!
I wish i could afford to play irl commander but alas I'm broke and stuck playing commander on Arena instead.
>it's another omniscience into second sun deck
>>716305048that's really the best they could come up with for MJ?
Please tell me they at least made a fun "when this creature dies" card for Gwen Stacy and it's not just the stupid alt universe girlspider one
>>716308437You fool, you absolute buffoon
Of course it's fucking spider-gwen bullshit, why would you for a SECOND think they'd do something fun with that crossover
>>716303858for me it's hymn to tourach
>>716308594because this game used to be good and I can't quite let that go
>>716303397 (OP)nothing personnel, kid
just BTFO'ing all blue retards and actually making this a vidya thread
>>716305569So is leaving 2 blue up, with that logic.
Who's idea was to turn white into a fucking jew color?
>pay 2 to attack for each creature attacking
>pay 2 when you draw or they get a treasure
>spells that target creature cost 2 more to cast
>spells played when its not your turn cost 2 mode to cast
Taxes, taxes taxes.
>>716308728>>716305048What the fuck happened with MtG that they decided to go full overdrive with retarded ideas and ruining the game? Did digital card games broke them?
I don't mind the Secret Lair stuff and crossovers but it's all they do now and even then it's dumb stuff.
>>716308728Neither can I, but I've just learned to expect the worst and maybe, sometimes, be mildly pleasantly surprised
>>716308972Because Black covers death, so the other inevitability needed a representation
>>716303397 (OP)>complaining about counterspell of all cards>when green players cried so hard that the color became creatures that are 1GG: 5/5, ETB Draw six cards, fight target enemy creature, add GGG to mana pool. LTB: Return creature to the battlefield with four +1/+1 counters on it. Escape: G, Exile 1 card from your graveyard
>>716308663For me it's ritual to specter
>>716305504Just order a bunch of proxies from some printing side or etsy.
Stop giving the cancer secondary "market" money
>>716309106Im making a death and taxes deck now.
>>716308972Bureaucracy is a white thing.
>>716309149You forgot that when another creature enters it gets ten +1/+1
>>716309016>with retarded ideas and ruining the gameMTG has been a meme game for decades, stop pretending a spider-man card is what sent it over the top
>it's all they do!!!they're releasing a new set in like, a week. and they had a new set 2 or 3 months ago. and another set 2 months before that. And ANOTHER set the month before then.
4 sets in 7 months is pretty good
>>716308972the people behind Legends, I guess.
mtg does have a weird issue with deciding new avenues for a color's identity based on like two or three cards from 1995 though I gotta admit
>>716309286>4 sets in 7 months is pretty goodit's overkill
>>716309016FF MTG made $200M in a day. Wizards revenue is up 30%. Hasbroโs however lost $700M.
We are in for the most retarded money grabbing bullshit. They will burn mtg to the ground to try to save Hasbroโs rotten corpse
>Aetherdrift
That's it, I just needed to get it out of my system, I'm still not over it
>>716309016Each set has been progressively losing money, but at the same time they have to keep releasing more sets to keep what they can before it collapses.
>>716309240I think to counter it, would be for red or pirates to steal opponents treasure tokens, or have green have a Robin hood type card to steal treasure and escape taxes.
I'm kind of a newfag to current MTG, can you guys help me with some ideas for my Brawl deck?
So far planning to replace Dragon Mage with the Copper Dragon and i probably wanna remove Rise of the Dark Realms and Siege Dragon, anything else i should remove or add?
>>716309286>4 sets in 7 months is pretty goodNo, it's not. They shit out a bunch of cards to squeeze out some profit from retards who keep buying this shit.
>MTG has been a meme game for decades, stop pretending a spider-man card is what sent it over the topI'm not but the enshittening has been far worse in the last few years (let's say around Arena). Just look at the mechanics or busted cards
There are bunch of formats nowadays and it's all just bullshit MtG was always a bit alienating to new players because precons are unusable for whatever reason and Standard, the beginner friendly format, is expensive as shit too.
Now if someone new wants to try out the game (eg. Arena), they're smacked on the head with all the formats and digital exclusive formats
>>716309456HOW
What the fuck is Hasbro doing?
>FF MTG made $200M in a day.To be fair, TCG pack addiction is on a high thanks to the Pokemon meta that started years ago.
It also looks good
>>716309514I think it's amazing that they've managed to get even worse
>>716309739>cavern of souls>dragonlord kolghan>cavern-hoard dragon>ancient copper dragon>goldspan dragon>basically any GC>any black tutor card>twinflame tyrant>dark ritual>cabal ritual>talisman of indulgence >honestly surprised you don't have it, but Sol Ring>black market connections>bloodstained mire>luxury suite>blackcleave cliffs>foreboding ruins>haunted ridge>mount doom>raucous theatertake your pick.
biggest thing I'd say is your deck is like 80% red. remember you're black as well
>>716310169>They shit out a bunch of cards to squeeze out some profitalright so is all they do crossover nonsense or do they shit out cards ad nauseam?
You can just say MTG is gay or whatever, no one is gonna argue with you, but you keep saying retarded shit that is wrong and contradictory.
>enshittening has been far worseit's been dogshit since before hasbro bought it, then it became turbo dogshit. Any format besides kitchen table is gay nonsense and the game shouldn't be taken seriously by anyone at any level, and once you accept that you just learn to chuckle at the novelty of sonic the hedgehog and Avatar Aang fighting Nicol Bolas and Godzilla.
>>716310390>I think it's amazing that they've managed to get even worseTrue, I thought we've reached the nadir with the Definitely-Not-Avengers-Endgame that was March of the Machine, and yet they continue to surprise me once in a while. Now I'm actually curious how they're gonna beat wack ass multiverse race (feat. dogshit art direction).
>>716310454Thank you for the suggestions, i'll look througn these!
Few things tho
>dark ritualGot that already, it's Darkness of Eternity.
>any black tutor cardNot many of them are legal in Arena or even in Arena sadly, my main options are Grim Tutor and Diabolic Intent.
>>716310657>I thought we've reached the nadir with the Definitely-Not-Avengers-Endgame that was March of the Machinehow hard do you think nosewater and pals are jerking themselves off over the fact they can make actual avengers cards now instead of relying on the jacetice league
>>716305048>Mary Jane is stronger than 2 bears Power creep the gathering
>>716303397 (OP)>pissed controlfags off so bad they had to ban it in almost every format
I love card games, and I love seeing children happy to open/look at/play with cards https://youtu.be/OaQcoa9xibc?si=M8XQxdZzMYu5IXmb
>>716305048Why did they put a description for Vigilance randomly
>>716308796I feel like most people will just build shado for his first ability
>>716310846but is she stronger than
>>716305720as a mono-red enjoyer who loves target changers and plays against black goodstuffs/hand hate all the time, that spell, while great, is limited pretty much to Seize.
99% of the other effects are like Duress, and unfortunately use 'target OPPONENT' instead. in 1v1 this makes redirects literally useless, since YOU are the only legal target. I honestly hate it from a design standpoint. fine if you're playing 4player commander, but its really un-interactable for all colors but blue in 1v1.
>>716310645>alright so is all they do crossover nonsense or do they shit out cards ad nauseam?Crossovers make up a significant amount of their release schedule nowadays.
Regular MtG sets are just awful (eg. Aetherdrift)
They make a a lot of crossovers and shit out cards.
>>716311039When I redirect the spell, you are my opponent :)
>>716311136Show 2025's schedule
>>716311267You mean when they started to slow down?
>>716305874Pauper is the format you stupid niggers have been shilling forever because it wasnt supposed to be full of metafags though
>>716310991But are 8 bears stronger than 1 hornet?
>>716311542>only one non-hat non-crossover set all yearGrim
>>716310816Not as hard as they would have back then, the IT PRINTS MONEY factor is far lesser since Marvel's been on a downward trend since Endgame, even according to some of their biggest fans
But you know, still pretty hard
>>716311542>half the sets are UBslop>the other half are fucking bootleg wacky races and star trek>the only actual set of the year was dragonstorm which assed up the plane yet againas far as I'm concerned bloomburrow was the last hurrah and this game is officially dead
and no I'm not looking forward to lorywn 2 electric boogaloo why would you ever trust modern WOTC to not ruin something good from it's past, didn't you learn from neon dynasty
>>716311210It (sadly) doesn't work that way, which is why like I said, I hate it. It SHOULD work for exactly why you described. but it does not. because, you are not changing OWNERSHIP of the spell, the spells controller is still them. The game rules will let you cast the spell and it WILL resolve, but it will resolve changing the target RIGHT back to you.
Try it on MTGO or Arena. It's how it works. It ultimately makes sense. But it's dumb. Play rule of cool or resolve it how you will when playing at a table, go off. Thats how magic should be IMO. It should just work. pic related. its one of my favorite newer spells. Amazing flexability to fuck 5c goodstuffs nonsense in red. But hand hate? Oh sorry. Pay 3 mana do nothing hehe.
>>716311790>assed up the plane yet againWhat the fuck did they do
>>716311623Sounds like EDH 10+ years ago.
Meanwhile I have cEDH proxy-friendly cash tournaments ten minutes from my house and I can't be assed to explore a meta that fucking gay.
>>716308972White is about 'order and structure', so the end result will be late stage capitalism. I wish we would get more white mana villains. I'm tired of WOTC using black/white as morality compasses despite them explicitly being designed to NOT be that.
>>716312280>I'm tired of WOTC using black/white as morality compasses despite them explicitly being designed to NOT be that.If anything that's nuMTG, black was originally designed as the explicitly evil color.
>>716307095>it's another episode of nogames thinking cEDH only consists of turn 2 thoracle winspost deck nigger, I bet you don't even play magic
Why does having to think for a single second that the opponent might have an answer make MtGfags seethe to this day?
>>716311542>the "in universe" sets are:>legally distinct wacky racers (aetherdrift)>return to plane that used to be good>pulp sci fi knock offWOTC really is just out of ideas, aren't they?
>>716312429Revisiting Ravnica and Innistrad 3 times or so each didnt give that away for you?
>>716303509This card should always be standard legal like elf, no half measure bullshit like duress.
>>716309303Is it that weird? That's literally when Rosewater joined, and he's been very open about considering himself the arbiter of colour identity.
>>716312510I think it's really damning that the last two returns to ravnica were "legally distinct avengers endgame" and "legally distinct Clue (but also there's an actual Clue tie-in so uh)"
>>716308796>"shadow the hedgehog, huh?">look inside>it's rakdos token army
>>716312510Even then we had creative new planes like amonkhet or eldraine after our third revisit to ravnica.
It didn't feel like they truly ran out of ideas until the nu phyrexia saga ended and they just tied all the planes together. There isn't even a greater story happening anymore, everybody is kind of just farting around.
>>716312730That's because they have to spend like two years "epically teasing" that the next not-Thanos is that one vanilla from Future Sight.
Counterspells aren't the issue, 0 cost counterspells are. Force of Will, Pact of Negation, Force of Negation, Mindbreak Trap*.
*Mindbreak Trap is an actually decent one because it's typically in response to someone going off instead of denying a setup.
>>716312730What gets me is
>open up the planes because dude Omenpaths>do fuck all with that aside from a wacky nonspecific race>just go back to old planes again
>>716312697>Look at this jerry, look at it!>It's shadow, shadow the hedgehog, on a magic card!
>>716312876Free spells is general shouldn't exist, but they make WOTC a lot of money so they continue to print them. Like the flare cycle.
>>716303397 (OP)>unsummon>unsummon>counterspell>unsummon>counterspellI loved how counterspell let you counter everything
>>716309514I'm still so glad I skipped Pre-Release night because I slept in after Graveyard Shift. Heard it was a shit show from every LCS around me.
I can't believe they printed this utter faggot card holy shit.
>>716313432Every set is just coomander bait now. I have to wonder why we even have standard anymore.
>>716313432Why? Because it looks like a fairy designed it? Welcome to numagic.
>>716313432Should get him for Gonti deck.
>>716306967>8 rackGod I loved making fags seethe playing a like $20 deck at events
>>716303397 (OP)>noooooooo interaction is bad let me play my solitaire!!!!
>>716313690still baffled by the absolute cowards at the commander committee that didn't ban this shit when they had a chance because "nuuuuh it's too ingrained" while taking out the other problem cards before WOTC took them out back behind the shed and stole control of the format
>>716303645There are black decks built entirely around attacking your opponents hand, they're so much more cancerous to play against than any blue control deck
>>716303509discard and seeing their hand is good and similar but not equivalent
a big part of counterspells strength is that your opponent used their mana to cast that spell so you can effectively deny them a turn and even just the possibility of you having one and open mana can force them to play unoptimally
>>716313690If your opponents aren't paying enough attention it produces 2 colored mana.
Homer
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>>716313690>every commander player claims it's a better format because there's no sweat>every deck runs sol ringlmao
>>716305048God I hope this flops, final fantasy did well but it fit the aesthetic better than half the recent in universe sets did, I wanna see players reject this.
>>716314442Nigga there's spongebob and MLP cards it's already over
the other day I was on the draw ~40 games in a row
>>716314407And? If your deck can't beat Sol Ring it's not a real deck.
>>716314503Those were smaller side products and at least MLP gave us that fantastic Nightmare Moon sleeve in Arena.
>>716314503unironically the spongebob meme cards were when I finally gave up hope on this game ever getting its shit back together and accepted it's no longer for me
I only come back here to complain and very rarely reinstall MTGA to scratch the itch before seeing every deck built around frodo faggins and "we couldn't get the digital rights" spiderman before re-uninstalling it
>>716314407Sweatiness in commander is how much your deck cost. No one wants to play a normal commander game against a tricked out fast mana and free spells deck of any kind.
>>716314757Also speaking of sleeves how the fuck have they not added any sort of categorisation to the sleeve list. Is that too much to ask from small indie Hasbro.
>>716314407Sol ring was a mistake but they'll never remove it at this point.
>>716315462>NusliverI don't understand how they claim things like shroud or old slivers are too confusing but then print shit like dungeon.
>>716315643i love the classic slivers so much.
i havent played the nuslivers. my friend keeps telling me though they suck.
>>716315643fortunately it's easy to just house rule old sliver mechanics if you ever meet another sliverchad in a game
>>716315462r8 my sliver deck
4x sidewinder sliver
2x sinew sliver
3x venom sliver
4x cloudshredder sliver
1x crystaline sliver
4x manaweft sliver
2x muscle sliver
2x sentinel sliver
2x talon sliver
3x bonesythe sliver
2x sliver hivelord
2x sliver legion
1x constricting sliver
no enchants no artifacts no sorc/isntants
real sliverers only.
got 4x sliver hive though.
>>716303397 (OP)Guys help me
What's a good and possibly gimmicky deck for commander? I just wanna play with my bros at the /tg/ store but I never played mtg, I only play one piece and yugioh
>>716315643Because they are liars. It's not about complexity, it's about power level. Nu slivers by their very nature are stronger since they don't affect your opponents or randomly buff their shapeshifters.
Stronger versions = more sales.
>>716316235Just buy a precon and start from there. If you don't even know what you like yet it's impossible to really recommend anything.
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>>716315462How we feeling?
>>716316374absolutely powercrept to hell.
i love it though.
that afinity really helps it actually get on the field.
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Thoughts?
>>716316374This will be a $40 rare despite seeing no play in any new formats.
>>716316526I am so fucking angry it doesn't include Monkey's and Ape's. Kibo will not take this laying down
>>716316526i know spiders are usual green or black but id really would have wanted all the spider mans to be black and red just for the fun of it.
>>716316526Where's the silver border?
>>716310914because these sets bring in new players
>>716316526I expect this to be one of the worst selling UB sets. Maybe if it was all marvel slop it'd do alright, but not just 1 IP like this.
>>716315837Sir this is the videogame board
>>716305569tempo is not everything, opponent kept his hand because it had 1 or 2 really good cards most of the time
>>716313432they always give up in brawl when I kill it with a sacrifich or minus spell
>>716305569If thats true why do so many people insta scoop to it? Why is discard one of the most hated archetypes ever printed?
>>716316526I think I'd like to see them expand on what they did with outlaw with creature types having inherent categories so you can just say other mundane animal types, realistically it will still need reminder text but you can maybe occasionally ditch the reminder text to fit more actual rules on a card and more importantly the card gets automatically updated with new creature types.
Of course outlaw does also lead to the same question as
>>716315643
I think people got used to counter spells, they did NOT got used to black stealing their cards, they fucking hate that shit
>>716315837Based sliverchad, I love those little guys they're adorable for weird worms.
>>716316602>black and redblue and red
this is non-negotiable
>>716317353People quit over every little reason in brawl.
>>716317498I hate "outlaws" and all these other similar batching mechanics
it really feels like scraping the bottom of the barrel
>what if a card just cared about a random assortment of creature types currently relevant in standard and we called that the new mechanic?
>>716317817in standard brawl they give up after you interact with the board in any way
>>716317512>ninjutsu was brought back before infectFuck you too wotc.
>>716303397 (OP)What does "counter" mean?
>>716318230Yugioh fag moment
>>716318230The spell gets cancelled and doesn't resolve its affects
Some card games refer to it as negate
Wake me up when unglued is legal
>>716318331I thought counters were tokens you add to your card to represent power/durability being added?
>>716318230you pay 7 mana to play some big creature and opponent plays this spell and your creature goes straight to graveyard. people hate blue control because they would counter fucking everything that matters
>>716318545No, tokens are temporary cards from outside your deck that are created by other card effects.
>>716318545They are, although +1/+1 counters are far from the only type of such counter
Counter simply refers to 2 different things in MTG
I think if they were to remake the game from the ground up today they probably would call it negate though.
>>716303397 (OP)>OK, you counterspell? I play summoning trap for free due to my previous creature summon being canceled and draw into... oh hey, my boy. Cool. Your turn :)
>>716304301Oh that could be really nice for my humans only deck
>>716317371Little timmy wanted to play his hecking epic carderino next turn.
>>716309008It's really not that bad if you play cards that let you cheat out equipment from hand
>>716318691>I think if they were to remake the game from the ground up today they probably would call it negate though.MTG2 doesn't have counters, counters, tokens, the stack, or even lands.
>>716311758To be fair they got into this position by making their main sets gay and lame
>>716303963>Meanwhile every bluetroon does nothing but counter everything you doNot every blue deck runs Urza's lands, thought.
>>716318740Modern mtg art will never be like this again.
>>716313709>Cunny Acquisitor
Post your favorite MTG creature.
>>716305048Is that an actual attractive white redhead woman with perfect curves and fair skin?
Magic is healing.
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Some might call it ub slop but this is still my favorite card in the game thanks to its art, love this guy as my commander
>>716303397 (OP)Still better than a timeout because the opponent is going first aka YGO
>>716319383He's just cool.
>>716319223Real shame honestly, such dreamlike qualities to it
>>716319383You posted it but my second favorite non ub has gotta be my girl Sigarda
>>716319450They're probably gonna have her get blacked
>>716319891Wow i didn't know creatures in 94 were THIS bad
>>716319891Why is he literally -10
>>716319748Literally just make Aragorn white and i would have made a commander deck with him but these faggots valued being gay and lame over my money
>>716320012yeah but he fuckin looks cool
magic needs to bring back evocative art like this
>>716320171Can't argue with that.
>>716320171True. Like I think this artwork is really great on selling an unsettling vibe even if I would never use its effect. And there were a lot of cards like this that just looked fucking cool. It's kinda why I liked the final fantasy set since the artists clearly tried
>>716320078First Strike Infect is so fucking evil.
>>716318961>equipmentAnon she grabs any artifact
>>716318821Heavy controls often run wasteland just in case.
>>716320328fyi save images from scryfall for better quality
>>716319295It's okay, he hides it somewhere nobody else will ever get to see it.
>>716320525I miss Infect i wish it was in Arena
>>716320852Just play Forge anon, don't give wotc your money.
>>716320642Gonna keep it a buck, it took me long enough to remember how to spell that shit that I took the first image I saw
>>716321889not that anon but you could have just used their search feature and typed in "lose game 13 life" for the rules text to pull it up
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>>716316526Insanely cringe millenial pun quirk humor.
>>716303397 (OP)>Still playing crossover slop
>>716322479He's been a thing since the 80s anon
>>716319748>They're probably gonna have her get blackedThat would be hot af
>>716322017What I hate most about UB is that it has retroactively ruined Innistrad for me.
As a rare one-off Innistrad was great.
Now I see it as the major start of UB and the
>Theme, but MtG Slop we got for years that led to the errosion of Magics IP.
>>716322878Wouldn't that be kamigawa first
>>716312423It mights all card players seethe, have you seen the absolute rage handtraps produce in ygo? And budew is one of the most hated cards in pokemon. Little timmy wants to play his cards and anything that prevents him from it will make him angry.
>>716319383This and Royal Assassin
I wish I was making this shit up.
>>716322751Game Actions: The Card
>>716322958Kamigawa flopped and staved it off for several years. Innistrads success is the issue. Ironicaooy Garfield coming back is what killed the series.
>>716305720*pays 2*
Lmao try again, get thoughtseized shitter
Can you imagine the bearded sรถygoys that are unironically excited over the spiderman set?
>>716323437It's not going to top record selling Final Fantasy, that's for certain.
dare you challenge the italian mutt?
>>716313850>spend mana to make your opponent discard what they might have played vs make your opponent spend mana to discard what they definitely wanted to playCounter is slightly worse but seeing blackniggers and blueniggers point fingers at each other like either is tolerable disgusts me.
>Inquisition of Kozilek
>Thoughtseize
>Liliana of the Veil
>Wrench Mind
>Duress
>Raven's Crime
>finally, lay down this bad boy
Lmao enjoy controlling the game with all your nothing. gg blueshitters
>>716316526I HATE PUNS
I HATE PUNS
I HATE PUNS
What was the point of making up a keyword for his second ability besides introducing a PUN?
>>716323878If this artwork came out today it would be called transphobic.
>>716310891>That brief period of time playing this on my modern infect deckGood times were had.
>>716323573>literal newsroom reporters could kill Cloud Strife and live to tell the tale
>>716318545That counter(noun), completely different from counter (verb).
The english language is retarded like that.
>>716324349It's like 4 vs 1 don't be unreasonable
>>716320542Yeah but a lot in the ff set complements equipment
>>716318506>You literally can make an infinite chicken dance with this comboWho wins in that case?
>>716322017>13 utensils hanging>13 lines of blood>13 rivets on barrel>13 logs in stove>stone arch made from 13 stones>stone stove made from 13 stones>13 fragments on floor>wall made from 13 planks>ceiling made from 13 planks
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Fuck you, get frogged
>>716324349To be fair that's beating bombing mission baby level cloud, the other cloud in the set could kill them at least
>>716324661Never noticed the wall or ceiling, that's great
>>716322958wouldn't it have been arabian nights earlier
>>716319383it's vivi time
>>716327532>cast my entire hand then do it again for free>oh also you take damage everytime I do lolWhat were they thinking
When I'm bored of getting raped on my stupid tribal decks i oneshot people with Vito
>>716330137They were thinking "Removal is so good nowadays we can print a creature that says you win and it won't do shit". And they were kinda right.
>>716330760I mean not really tho, Vivi completely raped standard and is insanely obnoxious in commander too.
Blue of all colors is best equipped to protect Vivi and can quickly spiral with it.
>>716323334>turn 3 thoughtseizeyou already lost
>>716323573>>716323140>shit we can't have every single creature be legendary in this set>fuck, just demote some named characters and make them genericit's impressive how stupid this set is and we've barely seen any of it
>>716330137It occupies the space with shit like Light Paws, where it's not good enough for cedh but too good for most casual tables
>>716331685Vivi is absolutely good enough for CEDH. Maybe not top-tier but certainly competitive.
>>716331979It's much worse than stella lee.
>>716317512steal, you say?
>>716332308It's a phyrexian thing
>>716312876Free spells are bad, but the genie is out of the bottle now and getting rid of them would make the game far worse.
>>716332483It really wouldn't
>>716318374man this almost seems like a joke
why would you ever want to put a counter on a countered spell? it would already be out of play anyway, right? is it just extra text to fuck with us? or does it actually have implications for countered activated abilities?
man fuck blue
>>716323887>making up a keywordThat's not a keyword, it's defined in the rules (207.2c) as a flavor word with no mechanical significance
>>716332175nta but vivi actually has two card infinites no? like that shouldn't be enough?
>>716332654>this almost seems like a joke
How much longer til WotC abandons DEI?
>>716332308>>716332359It's also an actual word from the 16th century.
>>716324630can you? i thought activated abilities that don't actually add new effects can't be played again
>>716332567Okay, well enjoy every eternal format being plagued by turn 1 combos
>>716332835Don't hold out hope for this ever happening unless they're forced by Hasbro for whatever reason or a fascist revolution happens.
>>716332835Everytime WotC must collaborate with company who keeps strict image for their IP.
>>716332835if anything MTG is poised for perpetual trooning. 1. people buy the cards regardless, just avoiding the singles and treatments they think are gay and 2. go play some mtg and you'll see an overwhelming amount of troons. our commander knight was so packed that they were sending randoms to tables of 4 and I was literally paired up with 4 troonpals for a game and boy, did they get salty over fucking Magar of all commanders
>>716314407Doesn't ever precon come with sol ring? Its not like its a sweat card
>>716333231> 1. people buy the cards regardless, just avoiding the singles and treatments they think are gay andliterally not true. People bought FF much more than Lord of the Rings because there was zero trooning
>>716303397 (OP)I want to get into magic. I got into Yugioh a bit when Duel Links came out freshly and there were few cards and you know the rest of the story with how the new cards coming out added on top and felt good. But what's a good way to experience Magic so I can fight with decks, learn about decks other than youtube and build decks with fun.
>>716332690If the two-card infinites were faster, sure. stella has 2-card infinites with more redundancy, but in both cases, you're in shit colors to actually get the cards to win
>>716303397 (OP)>>716303509Thanks for reminding me why blueblack is the funnest decks
>>716333219>four guys between us, lets not keep cloud waiting
>>716333319I think that's more because FF introduced a huge new audience to the game while the Venn diagram between LOTR nerds and MTG players already overlapped a lot more.
>>716333319Lord of the Rings is the second-best selling set of all time
>>716333319tranime is inherently trooned up. characters like gogo and mog and kefka and terra rep the t-community
>>716333325>I want to get into magicdon't
>>716333319?
lotr was the highest selling set of all time until ff came out.
>>716332835They wont. And they already ruined LOTR with it, so it doesn't really matter.
>>716333276Would be stupid to ban the card and make all precons unplayable right out of box. Sol Ring is quite sweaty card for it's colorless ramp, especially if your starting hand also includes Arcane Signet or other staple 2 cost mana rock.
>>716333487That's some stupid shit you just wrote
>>716333325You could buy a precon with a friend and start from there, irl.
If you don't want to spend money you can try mods on tabletop simulators, where you import decks from tapped out or other sites(where you can also bukld your own decks) or one of the many online clients.
If you want a singleplayer thing, try mtg forge.
>>716333325you have two choices
>Standard Its the default 60 card format designed for playing the game. Its fun but also competitive. You build decks around a said style of play and then play rounds usually.
This format is the intended way for beginners to learn the game. LGS stores usually encourage beginners and will loan you decks etc to learn.
>CommanderThis format is different. 100 card decks, 1 copy of each card only except basic lands. This format is more your casual player format. Its often played with 3-4 players at a table. Decks are designed around a theme or a playstable of the commander card. The commander is a card on the field that is your main hero basically. This format is mainly designed for casual play. Buying a precon or preconstructed deck is usually how you learn with others.
Thats the jist of it.
I started with Commander and ill say, I recommend learning Standard first even if it is harder at first.
>>716333325this
>>716333540unless you have friends to play with, magic is beyond retarded.
>>716333487Nigga terra is SEX
>>716332812well yes, of course, the joke with the card is obvious. but I wasn't sure that it was an actual card.
>>716333590>>716333469Why are you guys saying that as if it contradicts me? There's two big UB sets, one that trooned and one that didn't. The one that didn't sold multiple times more than the other, I wonder what that means!
>>716333930It is an actual card. It's part of a joke set.
>>716303397 (OP)>CounterspellThat's fair, it's no different than any other removal spell
However if by the time I'm stuck topdecking you STILL insist to do nothing but counter and bounce my permanents at the end of turn then yes, I am going to rope you. Advance your own wincon or I'm going to waste your time like you're wasting mine.
>>716333960because if it was the trooning, nobody would've bought lotr.
>>716333960>trooned out set sells multiple times more than any other set, including the dozens of non-trooned sets from the beforetimes>until the weebshit set (inherently troon-coded) came along
>>716333906just like every t-girl imagines. terra also turns into some sorcerous monstrosity.
>>716333607okay xir
>>716330760Vivi is the top deck in standard right now, and played in a lot of other formats as well.
>>716333960tranime is automatically trooned up, bro. you are living in a fantasy world
>>716334245and that's AFTER getting slapped with a huge wave of bans meant to make it less heinous
>>716334112au contraire, if it wasn't for the trooning, everyone would've bought Lotr.
it actually had a much stronger marketing jab with having a 1/1 unique card as well as being made for eternal formats (cards are never gonna rotate)
>>716332891Really? I haven't hear of this rule.
>>716334361>cards are never gonna rotatecompletely irrelevant, Standard is dead in the water and only barely gets considered in the design stage
>>716334324They didn't nerf vivi's deck at all they nerfed all the surrounding decks
>Opponent still plays MTG
>In 2025
Yep, that's it.
I'm just not gonna play with you.
>>716334503Gotta sell more FF cards one way or another
>>716334361?
bro everyone did buy it. it literally made magic so mainstream people started playing it in bars and shit.
>>716334503Losing Monstrous Rage was still a big hit to Vivi even if it wasn't big enough
>>716334503>They didn't nerf vivi's deckbro, vivi was literally seeing play in the best deck (izzet prowess), yes it was massively nerfed
>>716333325Just download mtg arena and play
>want to play magic
>wallstreet has decreed that magic is now commander
Fuck commander. I have dozens of 60 card decks, mostly tuned for janky multiplayer fun. taking them apart and admitting that normal magic has been killed by wallstreet is not something I will ever do.
>>716333325Find some friends and proxy the cards
>>716335031Can't you like play both?
>>716335031>normal magic>60 card janky multiplayer fun
>>716335115Most of my playgroup has taken apart their normal decks. If I want to play I have to submit to the rampy comboland of commander.
>>716335169Yes faggot, the best magic is taking a pile of cards you opened up and fighting your friends with them. Commander says no fun allowed you can't choose to run more than 1 of a card and you have to make the deck a specific size. Try doing aggro, mill or burn in commander without some absurdly powerful modern card that says commander on it.
Is this the thinly veiled master duel thread?
>>716331667Rats used to be so cool, now it all looks like furrybait
>>716335453>he says, posting a decade old example of furry bait
>opponent playing green/blue malice
>I cast Lancea for 1 mana and opponent quits
It's that easy folks
>>716335453i don't understand. this is like the quintessential furfag zoophile initiation card and it's 20 years old
>>716335535and still much better then the obvious furry fetish art in this thread
>>716335371I miss Master Duel man, the client was so nice.
If only YGO wasn't the worst TCG ever made.
>>716335535>decadetwo decades. wizard has been fucking with furfags dicks for at least that long, probably longer
Persistent reminder: EDHfags are the scourge of MTG and brought the plague funkopop collabs and hat sets.
Kill an EDHfag at your LGS to help improve the environment.
>>716335669competitive 60-card fags would literally be killed en masse by edh players. there are way more normalniggers that play edh that could take on at least 5-10 60-card homosexuals per normie and edh fags outnumber 5 to 1
>>716335654Yea TCG is fucking trash, in every capacity cardboard is inferior to digital. That goes for all card games, especially ones that can't have a stable market for affordable meta decks, mtg being the worst of the worst is depressing.
>>716335669I agree with all of this but
>no cards in sets released after falloutMakes no sense.
>>716335889it's a tabletop sim screenshot so I assume the room was made just after fallout was released and the cards after that were all pre-release and not legal for play yet
>>716335669EOE printed mainly for Standard and cucked EDH fags. You won for now.
>>716333325You really, REALLY, don't.
1. You don't want to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to catch up on your collection, just so you can become competitively viable.
2. It's a shit game that is designed poorly.
3. There are better games out there, for cheaper. Newer, better designed games that don't require you to go broke just to catch up with the meta.
4. Even those games are a waste of time and money since the whole selling point of TCGs, creative deck making and collecting, flies straight out of the window when there is always the mathematically proven objectively correct and only deck to play. Every card outside of that one deck is just a trap that wastes your money.
Don't do TCGs, kids.
>>716335793Yea, EDHfags weigh 500lbs and cause hospitals to come to agreements with circuses and zoos to treat them when they come in for their diabeetus foot
>>716336210bro, glass houses
If you're looking to play any of the good formats and you dont want to take out a loan to buy/rent decks on MTGO consider joining XMage, a cross-platform, open-source MTG client with automated rules enforcement. People play all the cool formats here like modern, legacy, vintage, premodern and even commander for totally free and you dont even need to register or make an account on anything
>>716336415those are EDHfags, GPs are for casual retards who talk about Their Commander and gush over buying $5000 alters
>>716336480>umm... actually this 60-card constructed GP{ is secretly commander players!it's literally the cream of the crop 60-card lardasses
>>716335669lmao get staxed.com
>>716336637>GPs>cream of the cropliterally the FNM of REL events
>>716336756it's all 60-card players bro. sorry
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>>716325361>SWAMP>DARK RITUAL>SPECTER>INSIDIOUS BOOKWORM>MY TURN IS OVER
oldschool magic was the best.
>>716337638Pre-modern looks like a pretty fun format, but only because the content being uploaded right now is by turbo casuals who refuse to play the 2 standout meta decks.
>>716333325just play arena without spending money
>>716337638I like the old cart designs.
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>>716338042nu-frames were the biggest mistake in MTG history, just after the reserve list
>>716311790Neon Dynasty was cool though, and had actual mechanics, and good card art.
>>716338481They release the cards with old frames as special versions.
Pre-Fate Reforged format when? The new timeline sucks dick
>>716338576Which just proves how horrendous the nu-frames are. Nobody chooses to play if, everyone wants the old cards or alt arts to get away from their garbage corpo garbage focus group art decision
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>>716319383The most racist goblin to ever live
>>716319451Nah these cards are based since they're actually cool crossovers that can feasibly fit into a setting about wizards and shit.
>>716338656This nigga is my pet card and has won me multiple EDH games because everyone keeps forgetting what it does. They either forget that it's indestructible and just kill themselves with a Blasphemous Act, or they forget he has an active ability and they can't circumvent it by just not attacking me.
>>716337836kinda like master duel huh..hopefully I can check out a magic game that are like the many yugioh offline games that have you collect cards and build decks they go crazy.
>>716333702thanks fren commander sounds cool but I'll definitely learn standard first
>>716336149desu I'm not interested in playing irl. I've been a yugioh fan for a long time nothing too intense but I've never played it properly irl I'd prefer to play a game where I can get all the cards for free similar to yugioh pro or pokemon showdown
Mountain.
Rite of fla- Rite of flame!
Seething so- Seething so- Seething song!
I cast... Dragon Storm!
I search my deck for five different 6/6 dragon cards that now give each other trample and haste, and I drop them straight into play on turn 1!
It's over Yugi!
>>716338827I also include him in basically every deck I can. He's good for just about anything you can think of using him for. Blasphemous Act being one of the most played cards in EDH, period, also makes him into a hilarious nuke if people dare to use it... or you can just play it yourself.
>>716339220You could just search for four Bogardan Hellkites and win on the spot then and there, though.
I feel like MtG would be the perfect game for me, but I dont want to learn a gazillion spells and speld a googolplex dollars on a casual game. What'd've are the vidya for this?
>>716339604Magic Arena?
Or just proxy shit
>>716336415Reminder this guy got permad for this
>>716339513Anime needs the tension tho.
The villain can't be too competent.
>>716339604Arena, standard format (not alchemy, its full of custom online only slop). Only have the last 3 years worth of cards, and its pretty f2p friendly.
Since its an online client it also handles all the rules interactions for you while you learn.
>>716335334>the best magic is taking a pile of cards you opened up and fighting your friends with themThat's what commander is all about retard.
>>716340053that's sealed/draft, anon.
>>716339686>>716339928 In retrospect I suppose it was a silly question, thanks brehs
>>716335889Otherwise faggots bring power nine like cards that are old, scarce and expensive as fuck.
>>716332835Jews will never stop destroying everything we love.
>>716340053No, commander has become an optimized format, with precon decks being sold at every LGS. Obviously your play group can make their own rules for the format, but you could do that with any format you wanted.
>>716336247I'd rather just play voice of resurgence.
Best Magic is no Magic.
Take a shower and play a better game nerds.
>muh aggro
>muh midrange
>muh control
COMBOCHADS RISE UP
SOLITAIRE IS TRVE MTG
>>716340053Commander doesn't let me play with more than 1 of the same card. What if I want a playset of lightning bolts?
>>716340053>That's what commander is all about retard.lmao, fucking deluded commandertards
EDHREC TELL ME WHAT TO ADD, I NEED THE OPTIMAL POWER TO ADD TO MY $10K DECK
>>716339220Well played, Kaiba. However, you have forgotten a crucial element.
Your Dragonstorm allowed you to search your deck for quite a few dragon cards... which means, naturally, that you have searched your library.
After your first Dragonstorm resolves, I cast all of my Archive Traps, which now cost 0! And I happen to have drawn four of them in my opening hand, milling you for 52- and leaving you entirely without a library, meaning the succeding copies of Dragonstorm cannot search for anything- and you die next turn, Kaiba!
>>716319383For many, it was Shivan Dragon. For me, it's his extreme cousin.
I like EDH, but I do not like how every standard set is clearly designed to pander to it now. Every other rare is legendary. With every other multicolor spell being unusable trash outside EDH, and having no synergy with the actual set it came in.
It's also one of the reasons why card effects are so fucking long now.
>>716340925AAAAAAAAAAAHHH-!
*disintegrates*
Why doesn't MtG Arena have commander if its so popular?
>>716341358Too much work to implement all cards and it would lower their amount of sales to the biggest simp market. Gotta keep the EDHfags churning through product
>>716341358because as soon as an edhfag cant put in their 100 retarded house rules like
>>716335669 they get armageddoned once and quit
>>716341358It was designed to be a hearthstone clone (even has a format with a bunch of waaacky random effects), so its not designed to support 4 player.
If you want online commander you can play MTGO.
>couldn't afford anything other than T2.5 standard decks
>Leave game, get a good job
>can now afford good modern decks
>game has gone to shit
Feels so fucking bad.
>>716341724*XMage
*Cockatrice
>>716341995I'd honestly rather pay for MTGO cards than deal with retards in cockatrice public lobbies. MTGO has retards too, but at least I don't have to police their playing
>haven't played since born of the gods
>decide to try the game again
>spiderman, falltout, lord of the rings and fucking final fantasy
>cowboy hat set, racing car set, cluedo set
eh
>>716340727How is that different from any 60card format? At least commander has actual casual tables in real life. All other constructed formats are 100% sweats all the time.
>>716303397 (OP)>archetype's theme is about intelligence, strategy, and out-thinking your opponent>while other archetypes have to actually out-think their opponent, the one whose theme it is just has to play "Out-Think your Opponent" and they win>while other archetypes have specific weaknesses that they have to think about and cover, this archetype can just ignore all of its own weaknesses while exploiting the other guy's>it's actually the simplest and most braindead archetype despite being themed after being the smartest>incredibly overpowered despite its simplicity
>>716342959>NOOOOO IT'S JOEY'S TURN TO WIN THIS EDHGAME THE WHEEL OF WINNER SAID SO >STOP IT, STOP PLAYING CARDS, LET JOEY WIN>MOOOOOOOOM, KICK RYAN OUT OF THE HOUSE HE WON'T LET JOEY WINEDHtards are a fucking living embarrassment. I wish all your cardboard would perish in a housefire.
>>716340925you could have went with Mindbreak Trap and yet you went for the comically unlikely one good job
>>716344209Nobody cares about compfagging, real Aryans are funpilled now.
>>716344209I'm too poor for vintage, and its not in MTG arena :c
>>716344539MODO vintage is really cheap once you get past the pain of buying the manabase
>>716343216>EDHtards are a fucking living embarrassment.very true, i just play tiny ass critter niggas to make each nigga discard a card and the table goes apeshit, its not even a tergrid deck
>>716344459>funpilled>only buys and plays with the EDHrec ratings above a certains thresholdright...
just because you're incompetent, doesn't mean you're not tryharding
>opponent hits you with the unexpected uno reverse card
So are you paying the 1 mana for your turn 1 Sol Ring anon?
Lol, lmao even
>>716344539Just print cards out no one cares
>play edh
>change a single card in my deck
>my deck is now in the LITERALLY HITLER category and nobody will play me
it's so hilarious
>>716344804It really does depend on which card because it's a format ubiquitous for running tutors. Which means you could consistently get it
https://moxfield.com/decks/5dRj66uKmEWqwbfugITiHA
>>716319748Why did they keep Arwen faithful to the films but made Aragorn black
>>716344720I exile my Simian Spirit Guide and pay the 1.
>Yea, I'm gonna plow your commander to prevent you from going infinite and winning the game
>he scooped up all his cards, left the table/LGS and went home
the mature and funpilled EDH audience
>>716344459People who played this game before you cared more about going to their lgs for fnm and winning prizes
I hate the LotR set art so fucking much.
>>716344996interracial couple, because apparently human and elf wasn't enough
>>716345076nooooooooooo you have to let him take his 40-minute long turns while he masturbates his infinite combo or you're a FUN-KILLER.
>>716344209>not the version with the Legacy table (it's empty)
>city used to have 3 stores
>Now only has 1
>Said store used to have modern 3 times a week, plus standard FNM, plus draft and legacy
>Now only has 1 modern night, standard and draft don't fire, and the only reason why people show up is for commander
It's so fucking bad.
>>716345304I have no issue with people scooping when I pull off some wacky bullshit, but people who sit there on arena for 2 whole minutes when they lose should just find a new hobby
>>716345207The Anato Finnstark stuff is incredible thougheverbeit
Btw here's my Frodo deck
https://moxfield.com/decks/fSG0BE52AUCtB9d_dhHqbw
Surreal that they actually printed this nonsense, this had to have been a "jump the shark" moment.
>>716345425Same shit happened to me. I started a new career that involved leaving my hometown when they started killing off big events and constructed FNMโs. I thought Iโd still be able to use Magic to make new friends in new towns, but wotc wanted to milk edgfags instead. Donโt even know where my modern deck is anymore
>>716345610If you can't respond to something sorcery speed and telegraphed, then you're garbage at this game.
>>716345610Please understand we needed to buff Tron.
>>716314407Congratulations, you have finally understood that "Commander is the casual format" really means that since you can't really care about winning in a multiplayer format then you funnel all of your efforts into "winning" by having the fanciest deck or the most blinged out cards, or the deck with the best theme, etc, etc...
It is even more of an arms race than competitive 60 card formats ever were.
>>716345829spoken like a true edhtard
>>716345873EDH will always be more casual on the basis of larger decks and more opponents. If you play with bumbling retards that still haven't comprehended the basic fundamentals of deck building, and no one responds to threats, yeah you'll be miserable.
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>>716319383The one and only.
>>716319383Without question
>>716308796could be an amazing cEDH commander if it wasn't BBRR
>>716345845>That time Tron got a 4 mana planeswalker that enabled wishboard combos with Mycosynth LatticeWhoever was in charge of the initial FIRE design was clearly a huge UG and Tron player
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I like drafting and I hope the space opera set is good for drafting.
EoE is the result of a failed Mass Effect collab, right? Everything feels like a "lemme copy your homework" version of Mass Effect
>>716337638With EOE out, you can actually make a really fucking good suicide black deck - not that it matters because that playstyle just gets dumpstered now.
>>716319383Played this deck for about 3 years
Him and Temur Battle Rage are fucking amazing.
>Block with a 1/1? Take 23, bitch!
>>716308796Technically, you just made this less of a vidya thread, because the card in the OP is on Arena and this won't be.
>>716346504>type in card name followed by "scryfall" into Google images>save image >post those instead It's that shrimple
>>716308796>play Shadow cEDH deck>have Obama on loophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tM0Sow-2r8
>>716344720Mana tithe is one of those funny cards I can never be mad about. Now if they keep giving white more counters I'll have an issue.
>>716346431No, EOE is the result of Mark wanting to make the most recent un-set standard legal. Thankfully, the most powerful card in the set is a great Impulse variant and all of the other cards are weak / too parasitic to see much play so you don't see much of it anywhere.
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>>716346431>Everything feels like a "lemme copy your homework" version of Mass EffectHuh?
I'm not an expert on Mass Effect, but last I checked it doesn't have the equivalents of any of this shit.
>>716347079Best thing about the set is no humans, and you know what that means... no ni
>>716347079see, it's simple
>monoists: humans>eldrazi: krogan>drix: asari>angels: protens>kavu: turians>eumidians: salarians>tezzeret: shepardit just maps perfectly
Mtg in Forge client.
Deck: Knight Legion
Main:
2 Adeline, Resplendent Cathar
15 Plains
2 Cave of the Frost Dragon
1 Scroll Rack
2 Acclaimed Contender
1 Cavern of Souls
1 Sol Ring
1 Anointed Procession
4 Student of Warfare
2 Knight Exemplar
2 Knight of Cliffhaven
4 Idyllic Grange
2 Gavony Township
1 Wrath of God
2 Cathars' Crusade
2 Land Tax
2 Kinsbaile Cavalier
1 Pearl Medallion
3 Venerable Knight
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Worthy Knight
2 Selesnya Sanctuary
Sideboard:
2 The Circle of Loyalty
2 Griffin Guide
2 Armageddon
2 Wrath of God
4 Disenchant
3 Return to Dust
What do you guys think? Any tips, suggestions welcome.
>>716347225>12 mana 3 card sorcery speed set up
>>716347219>monoists: humansThe monoists are a nearly entirely black (heh) faction that wants to exile others and themselves. Last I checked that's not what the humans want to do.
>>kavu: turiansKavu are mainly miners and far more like the Kavu from MTG. Their whole lore is that they blew up their whole planet mining it out.
>angels: protensBut these angels are still around
>eldrazi: kroganlmfao WHAT?
10/10 bait, got me to reply
>>716313850What are those decks called? Do they have a name?
>>716347339And then almost death and taxes. But went full agro.
Deck: White Challenger 2022- MOD - OPD
Main:
2 Smothering Tithe
2 Reidane, God of the Worthy
2 Monk of the Open Hand
2 Cave of the Frost Dragon
2 Esper Sentinel
3 Codespell Cleric
2 Portable Hole
2 Kabira Takedown
1 Loxodon Warhammer
1 Gird for Battle
3 Elite Spellbinder
16 Snow-Covered Plains
2 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
3 Cathar Commando
1 Gavony Township
1 Intrepid Adversary
1 Maul of the Skyclaves
2 Sungold Sentinel
3 Paladin Class
4 Luminarch Aspirant
1 Selesnya Sanctuary
2 Skyclave Apparition
2 Fateful Absence
>>716347413making EDHtards suffer is worth the investment
also 1 Replenish would make this happen
>>716347339what is that Selenysa Sancutary for?
>>716347413>12 mananigga doesn't know about replenish
>>716347561Bounces the Idyllic Granges, and 2 mana.
>>716347762>>716347561And it combos with Gavony Township, to add counters.
>>716310991It would be a 16/16 dumbass, Bears are 2/2.
>>716319383Huge sentimental value to me, one of my favorite cards from back when I started playing 23 years ago. Him, Akroma, Phage, Arcanis and Avatar of Woe.
>>716303509not standard legal dumbass
>>716305048>worse aerithLMAO
>>716346982This and the back to hand one I don't like.
>>716317371Because it's not fun to play against? Why waste time playing against a time-wasting deck where my only option is playing my topdeck?
>>716332654how esl do you have to be to fuck up what this card does that badly
>>716311491mark poole is a faggot
>>716319383As a young teen I thought this motherfucker was the coolest guy ever.
Still kinda do.
>>716320275>hides his opening hand in screenshotyou were called the fuck out and pussied out on an anonymous image board.
>>716346362there's an infinite already so don't get your hopes up