I want a new hobby, tell me where do I start with actively playing video games?

>>716312389 (OP)
Here, a pretty nice and relaxing puzzle game about art
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3204020/

>>716312389 (OP)
Here you go
https://uvahealth.com/services/transgender/transgender-hormone-therapy

>>716312389 (OP)
The uninstall wizard

>>716312389 (OP)
That defeats the purpose of having a hobby.

>>716312389 (OP)
https://store.steampowered.com/join

>>716312389 (OP)
But joking aside just look around the genres
Find what interests you
Search recommended games of this genre and you are free to go

https://www.youtube.com/@SsethTzeentach
He has a lot of easy games to start with

>>716312389 (OP)
I don't watch streamers so I don't get the picture

>>716312389 (OP)
The app store, of course? It even places the best games on the top, so you're guaranteed to find something good fast

either
>Play the trending thing and find other people who are playing it too. This month it's Abiotic Factor
>Dive into bundle websites, pick up a bundle with at least one game that looks cool, then try each of them out for a bit.

>>716312725
>Extra deep cut rough gems
>Advanced simulators
>Barely any well known classics
He's a good source of games but he's a garbage one for beginners

>>716312772
he got cucked by a vtuber

>9 years wasted on vtumors
Holy shit and I thought I was pathetic

Start with Dark Souls, then Dark Souls 2, then Darks Souls 3

I miss kizuna ai

>>716312389 (OP)
Kek is this about vtumors?

>>716312389 (OP)
That's what you get for simping a Vtuber who caters to GFE.

>>716312889
Two things can be true at once, anon. You absolutely are.

>>716312969
Anon? She came back

>>716312389 (OP)
Get a PS3 or XBox360.
Games still look good, they have a huge library of very good games, you can get the games, consoles, controllers and everything for really cheap.

>>716313000
holy vtranny seethe lmao

>>716312972
it is

>>716312725
>SsethTzeentach
>He has a lot of easy games to start with
Bait

>>716312867
Yea, it was a joke because many of his games are hard, even for more experienced gamers

>>716313037
>controllers [...] for really cheap
Good luck getting a working PS3 controller for cheap, if at all.

talk about games you fucking idiots. this isn't /r9k/ fuck off.

>>716312389 (OP)
I'll never understand the mentality of vtard fans
Do they honestly think it's a real cartoon character?

play elden ring, it's the best game in years

>>716312389 (OP)
>Being cucked by some roastie who hides behind a cartoon persona
Well, I'm sure the illusion was fun while it lasted.

>>716313000
Well, I'm not a
>vtuber cultist
>speedrunning zombie
>MMORPG farmer
>gacha/idle "game" user
>one of those wojak edit guys
>children's cartoon viewer
>or an idpol obsessor
I'm doing okay in the grand skeem of things.

>>716312389 (OP)
>waaaah a streamer has a real life but I don't waaaah
The problem is unironically you and no other "new hobby" will fix it.

>>716313786
what if someone is all of these at once.

>>716312389 (OP)
I don't understand this image

>>716312389 (OP)
>tfw never fell for the GFE meme
I've shipped like crazy though, but that doesn't hurt me.

>>716313185
>you are mentally ill. now take your pills goy
no

>>716312389 (OP)
well, now i can at least take solace in the fact that my life will never be as worthless as that of the absolute waste of oxygen who made this image.

>>716312389 (OP)
Go outside

>>716314158
You do know that it was likely made by someone that hates vtubers right

>"Girlfriend experience"
>when the streamer is simultaneously providing said "experience" live for hundreds of other guys at the same time.
They should rename it to mass cheating experience.

>>716314245
Anyway it was made by someone who cares about them either way. And I don't know which one is worse.

>>716313647
>pic
Some nigger or white trash's shitbull will never be cool

>>716312389 (OP)
First of all: Sorry. They get like this. I never quite fell down that rabbit hole, but I know that entire industry preys on guys like (You) and me. You don't deserve that.

Second: Depends entirely on what you're looking for. Personally, I'd sign up for Steam (fourth poster sent the signup link) and trawl around for demos and free single-player games. Don't just grab 'anything'- grab stuff that actually sticks out to you.

Like a demo? Consider paying for the game. You'll get a couple hours of in-game time before you can't refund it, in the event that it just doesn't work for you.

>>716314046
When a vtuber fan starts out, they are watching for the anime girl character.
When they get too invested, like most of /vt/, they start caring less about the character and more about the woman playing the character. Whether she's in a relationship with a man, what she does in her personal life, etc.
This unhealthy behavior leads to depression, psychotic behavior and meltdowns.

>>716312389 (OP)
Buy or build a cheap PC and wait for sales on ranom old shit to try or emulate older shit.
Ask your friends what they're playing and grab the latest friend slop Peak or whatever.
What kind of expierence do you want; story focused, ultra twitchy, looking at spread sheets, shooting guys?

>>716314657
This but also the woman won't stfu about it

>>716312389 (OP)
What the fuck does this dumb image mean? Back in 2016 there were no real women playing the vtubers?

>>716313917
Rejoice. There's nowhere to go for you but up. There are hundreds of more stimulating hobbies for you to experience. Or at least better genres to play.

>>716313917
they cancel eachother out. do the math

>>716314868
Grim fandango is so fucking cool

I actually still believe Noraneko is the embodiment of what Vtubing used to be

>>716314657
I think you got it backwards
we want the anime character, but they stop playing the character like a week after debut usually.
only when the personality is similar to the character it's nice.
but I don't want to hear about irl shit either way.

>>716314942
It really is. I dunno why point & clicks are so ignored on /v/.

>>716314753
It's impossible to "play a character" nonstop for multiple months without bringing yourself into it.
It's the same reason why streamers whose image revolve around being rude or an asshole always get into some controversy where it is revealed they were actually just be rude assholes in real life and not "pretending" for the stream. Kayfabe is a meme.

>>716313917
How are you alive
I mean it, how do you have time to eat food

>>716313000
>Two things can be true at once, anon. You absolutely are.
truke, but at least he isn't vt cuckold.

>>716314657
>never got into vtubers because my very first thought was "this is a woman trying to be le kawaii for money and nothing more, there is no real passion here"
>there are people who apparently didn't realize this instantaneously
???

>>716315162
Because plebs inhabit this place. /vr/ is for games lately. Also give me a few nice adventure ones

>>716314657
I believe it's more like
>vtubers then
>only streams about games and the funny vtuber persona

>vtubers now
>normal fag shit

old good - new bad

>>716314657
Are you guys just projecting, surely this is only the rare extreme case

>>716314657
If someone ends up murdering someone over some vtumor getting married or some shit I am going to lose it eternally.

>>716312389 (OP)
the fuck is this pic supposed to convey

>>716312389 (OP)
Do you want a single or multiplayer experience
Competitive or casual?
What kind of TV/Movies/Books do you like?
What kind of board/card/tabletop games do you like?
How much are you willing to spend?

>>716314657
it's just modern vtubers are just normalfag women using an anime avatar as a looks buff because they can't compete with normal egirl streamers in that department.
the only vtubers i really like are when an anime studio has their voice actors playing their character from an anime to promote it.

>>716315442
we have entire board dedicated to autists that think like this, anon....

>>716315295
I've just been going at old mainstream ones. Newest one I played is the Dangeresque Roomisode Triungulate. If you haven't played Peasant's Quest (a Kings Quest parody, not to be confused with an H-game of the same name) you should play it. Masterpiece.

>>716315296
Saba unprotected breeding anal.

>>716316015
Agreed.

>>716315906
>Ask player to do something ridiculous and impossible
>Keep egging them on to deliver the punchline in the form of a Game Over
Fuck me, that's good.

>vtumor starts talking about their personal life ooc

>>716312772
anon became aware that all the vtubers he used to love to watch aren't actually cute anime girls but real women masquerading as such, with fake voices and fake "cute" antics. They make wild amounts of money off of anon's viewership and donations while enjoying traveling, buying houses and fucking dudes while anon doesn't stagnates in life.
I'm proud of you for becoming aware, anon. No go enjoy some real hobbies yourself instead of giving money and attention to corporations and the clown women they employ.

>>716315684
or vidya studio

>>716315627
vtuber back when corporate scripted videos good
vtuber now bad

>>716315162
>I dunno why point & clicks are so ignored on /v/.

Pixel hunting and try-everything-in-your-inventory puzzles?

https://www.oldmanmurray.com/features/77.html

>>716315162
i enjoyed Deponia, but never got around to the sequels.

>>716312389 (OP)
Pong
Pac-man
Asteroids
Donkey Kong 1981
Tetris
Elevator action
Maybe boulder dash, I dunno

>>716312389 (OP)
Play Dark Souls. It was an actual adventure, changed my life abit

>>716312389 (OP)
Only for a extremely short time "vtuber" (as a concept) was a bootleg chinese cartoon show on youtube. For the majority of its "cultural" lifetime, vtubers are just your everyday twitch e-thot culture but carefully tailored for autists afraid of IRL women.
Go play some JPRGs, they also have anime girls and can easily be played +6 hours a day.

>>716312389 (OP)
For me, it's Ninomae Ina'nis.

Download Nintendo’s mobile games. They’re gonna start putting all their games on phone since the 2 is doing so bad

>>716316236
This. Enjoy yourself anon, don't engage with e-celebs, let alone have parasocial tendencies. Here, I'll recommend a game now. Fun racing game
https://store.steampowered.com/app/396900/GRIP_Combat_Racing/
There's also Rollcage and Rollcage extreme, by the same devs, and they're free

>>716317279
>For the majority of its "cultural" lifetime, vtubers are just your everyday twitch e-thot culture but carefully tailored for autists afraid of IRL women.
This is unironically true.
Hololive being the leading powerhouse for vtubers is actually something extremely recent in the vtubingsphere, being created 7 years ago. It wasn't until 5 years ago that they became notable and 3 years ago that they became powerhouses outside of Japan. Prior to them it was just Nijisanji who pushed the "digital (streamers)" part to a disgusting degree.

>>716317871
literal sex

>>716312389 (OP)
Poor cuckling...

>>716314553
How about this?

>>716314139
Based, never take any meds they'll only hurt you in exchange for making others around you more comfortable

>>716312725
Sseth's fan base is gay but his overviews/reviews are enjoyable and the games he showcases are all top tier
Mandalore is great too

>Japans creative output as a nation from like the 80s through the 2000s is full of deeply creative, otherworldly, enchanting and kick ass settings
>Cultural divide just further drives home how fresh and unique Japanese media is
>Cute/Hot girls are a staple of Japanese media
>Eventually someone in Japan realizes you can boil the entire process down to the cute girl and still make the same amount of money
>By the time the 2010s is over cute girls doing cute things has fully supplanted all other anime, and most videos games, coming out of Japan
>Japan then proceeds to start losing at the cute girl game they invented against Chinese Gacha, Korea, and western vtubers
>New players aren't even putting their own cultural spins on it, literally just aping Japanese anime women without the context
>That feel when Japan killed their uniqueness for cute women and then lost the cute women game and is slowly but surely losing steam as the cultural force they once were
>Future nerds will have to grow up without Japan at the forefront
I have known tragedies that history will have no name for.

>>716318741
holy shit is this real?

>>716318746
>I have a right to feel unhurt as I violently have diarrhea on the bus and begin masturbating with it while exclaiming I am Jesus
You're lucky all we want to do is get you to take pills

>WELL I MIGHT BE ALONE WITH NO FRIENDS, GIRLFRIEND OR FAMILY, BUT THANK GOD THAT I NEVER DELUDED MYSELF INTO THINKING ANOTHER PERSON ON THIS GODFORSAKEN PLANET ACTUALLY CARED ABOUT ME

>>716318941
>We can't make you take your meds and you're lucky we can't because we would do a lot worse to you if we could!
Proving my point exactly
Fuck normalfags

>>716319131
Nobody would beat you up over thinking some cute girl cared about you.

Your vtuber doesn't know who you are retard, ahahahaha

>>716318848
The more you think about the future the worse it seems.

>>716312389 (OP)
gaming isn’t a fucking hobby it’s a past-time, take up gardening

>>716318848
Why do you newfags keep making greentexts with Capitalization?
It looks retarded. Stop it.

Wait, I don't get it. Vtubers didn't exist in 2016. I guess the 2016 one is just supposed to represent anime in general?

>>716319131
>WELL I MIGHT BE ALONE WITH NO FRIENDS, GIRLFRIEND OR FAMILY, BUT THANK GOD THAT I NEVER DELUDED MYSELF INTO THINKING ANOTHER PERSON ON THIS GODFORSAKEN PLANET ACTUALLY CARED ABOUT ME

>>716319341
>take up gardening
Oh yeah, let me just enter my garden and oh, would you look at that! I have no garden because my apartment (that costs me a third of my income) doesn't have one and I'd have to save up for 40 years to buy a house with a garden.

>>716315627
It's OP idolfag rage because one EN Vtuber is getting married

>>716312725
when is this bastard going to release a new video
also every game i tried from his reviews i quit in like 3 hours except for Songs of Syx and HoMM3
i really wanted to get into Amazing CCP Cultivation Simulator because it looks cool and hectic but holy shit you actually need to be on adderall to play that shit

>>716319426
There's never been any hard rules about green texts other than make sure not to break them up with gap lines.

I bet you say "be me" at the start of your greentext stories and think you're an oldfag because "hey it's been 10 years since 2015" fucking retard

>>716319131
I care about you anon. Now, stop engaging with e-celebs. You'll regret it. Been there, done that or whatever.

What stops you guys from getting a real girlfriend?
It ain't that fucking hard.

>>716312772
vtubers used to play a character, and it was easy to have a certain "suspension of disbelief"
now these whores are so lazy they don't even bother to keep up the persona, they just act like their usual real-life stacy self with an anime filter, talking about their real life shit nobody gives a damn about

>>716320123
There are thousands of vtubers out there just watch a different one

>series s with gamepass
>modded wii + crt and gcc
>200$ pre builtpc
after that you can expand on your own.

>>716319767
>I care about you anon
Nta but I hate when strangers say this shit. YOU DON'T KNOW ME. You can't physically interact with me. You don't even know what I look like or my name. Your care for me is as superficial as your care for world peace. You want to get to know me? Send me your address. I WILL KILL AND RAPE YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY.

>>716319131
New hobby discovered: Head to /vt/ to read meltdowns from anons when one they watch announces they get married.

>>716312572
FPBP

>>716319131
This but unironically. Now I have a mountain of wealth that nobody can take from me

>>716312572
I haven't even installed wizard 101

American men are unable to get a house and family without resorting to the most mindbreaking, pozzed shit on the planet. As such I will not be going outside, I will consider to stack my money and play videogames after work.

>>716320658
I used to do that, after a while you realize the anons are ESL browns and that takes a lot of the fun out of it for some reason

>>716320123
Thank God I didn't care about vtubers when they "were" "sincere and soulful" because I fucking doubt they ever were.

>>716319940
I haven't spoken to a girl that wasnt business related in a decade

>>716319940
No interesting women in my area and I can't afford to move as I'm taking care of my parents

>>716320652
I meant as much as some anonymous on the net can do. But the point is: Stop engaging with e-celebs!

>>716312389 (OP)
>2016: yaay
>2025: ...shit, it was a scam and I'm retarded
Is that what the pic means?

>>716321003
That's because the catalog on /vt/ is unironically a content farm for a brown screencap twitter called bvtm or bannedvtmemes. Anybody who actually likes vtubers fucked off to holotower.org since it has proper moderation against browns trying to shit things up.

>>716312389 (OP)
Get into politics
I heard that makes you happy

>>716320906
these keep getting more abstract

>>716312389 (OP)
This only affects zoomer, I don't watch vtubers.

>>716321186
>I'm taking care of my parents
Stop doing that

what do you guys put on your second monitor ?
-t. needs to quit watching vtubers

>>716320906
not a single person is reading that Chang

>>716321050
>Thank God I didn't care about vtubers when they "were" "sincere
it's the opposite, the point is they shouldn't be sincere, they're playing a character
Imagine if you were watching some wrestling and the heel, right after smashing a chair on the champ, goes
>"Oh dear did I hurt you? My bad haha, yeah we'll go get some fries later"
>"Hey hey HEY! Stop booing! We're all good friends here, ok? Don't you know it's all an act? Wrestling is fake, guys!"
like yeah we know, but way to ruin it retard
it's youtube, it's entertainment, nobody cares about these vapid women in reality and the sooner they realize they have no value outside of the mask the better, imagine an actor thinking people who love a character he plays need to love him and his personal drama

>>716321631
For me its speedrun marathons and old ass cop shows

>>716321631
I put a terminal on it running gemini cli
Its cool watching it doing stuff on my raspberry pi while I do other stuff
Makes me feel like a hackerman,

>>716321631
don't have a second monitor
maybe have so much clutter in your living room that you feel like only having one monitor?

>>716321357
it used to be short 1-2 hour streams of a girl playing a character playing a game

now its 5-12 hour streams and the girl talks about her life for 4 hours before playing a game then comes out on twitter saying she's getting married

>>716320658
Most of people that actually like vtubers left /vt/ for altchans after the hack

>>716318741
nogs still obsessed with chains like it's 1824. old habits do die hard i guess.

>>716321631
I don't have a second monitor

>>716321631
Vtubers and other streamers and Lets Players like that one asian man who does silent longplays of horror games or MBH.

>>716319131
kek this. /v/ making fun of /vt/ has always been throwing bricks in glass houses. Just losers calling other losers losers to make themselves feel better about their loser selves.

>>716322270
You should get one
Its comfy

>>716322408
What's ironic is that vtubers are more of a social activity thanks to conventions and concerts meaning you often see fans meet up and inevitably marry each other as a result.

>>716312389 (OP)
i would have to go even further back to be happy

>>716322683
>v-tuber conventions
No thanks man

>>716323889
This. My room is much more comfortable.

>>716323889
No reason to go to one if you don't care for vtubers or conventions but they're unironically the cleanest conventions you'll ever go to since everybody knows you'll be seen by your oshi there so they shower and shave prior.

>>716318848
Well summarized. It's been sad to see play out.

>>716319131
Yeah?
Parasocial relationships are not healthy.

>>716321631
>>716322270
Same. I use my phone if I want to watch something.

>>716318848
>cute girls doing cute things has fully supplanted all other anime, and most videos games, coming out of Japan
wrong

>>716322683
as if vidya conventions aren't also a thing

>>716321631
stocks (don't do this, it's worse than you think)

>>716326287
It's not that they're not a thing, it's that there's no incentive to go to one.

>>716318741
hell yeah

>>716312389 (OP)
I'm a vtuber and the primary issue is that when you have to keep talking daily for 4-8 hours a day, it's almost impossible not to talk about what you've been up to in your daily life and sharing what goes on in your life allows your viewers to know you a little better and get a little closer to you

>>716327461
That's why the real source of the problem is how prevalent and dominant streaming has become compared to the short videos of Kizuna AI's era.

>>716327461
You don't need to be a vtuber to know this either.
Regular streamers end up talking about every single detail of their lives because 4 hours a day of just talking while attempting to "keep it fresh" is difficult.
It'd be another thing if they weren't streamers but just content creators who'd make videos, but nobody is capable of keeping up their lore and stuff if they're consistent in streaming.

>>716321050
It's not about being sincere but rather about commiting to the act. If you tune in to watch Barney the dinosaur, you don't want to get hit with a 20 minute rant about the life of the guy inside the suit.

>>716327656
>>716327659
that's fair, I decided to go for streaming over making videos because of the appeal of live interaction with my audience which is really important to me. I think the appeal is probably the same for most other vtubers as well

>>716319714
Really? High Fleet too? I'm still playing that one every so often years later.

>>716316236
>anime girls aren’t real and it was a ‘real girl’ (maybe) the whole time
Was this supposed to be like a surprise?
Streamerfags and especially vtuberfags deserve their suffering and swindling.

>>716319131
Yes. Better to not be deluded and let some whore take advantage of me

>>716312389 (OP)
What is this image supposed to be depicting? Someone breaking out of the illusion that a live2D avatar milking money from them is an opportunistic woman pretending to like them/their hobbies instead of a two dimensional existence?

Vtubers, streamers and paypigs should be gutted and hung by their intestines

>>716328302
>Was this supposed to be like a surprise?
No. In fact the whole culture surrounding vtubers in general seem to confuse people who don't watch vtubers.
For instance: Hololive Productions is a corporation consisting of 90 active female streamers and like 25 male ones. They began as an idol company adopting idol culture in Japan, for better or worse. Idols in Japan, from a Japanese perspective, shouldn't be in relationships during their time as an idol and generally only last four years before "graduating" (graduation is an idol term made popular within the vtubingsphere by Hololive). If they graduate and get married, it's also Japanese idol culture to support them because they're unironically recognized as "human" too and they're thanked for giving a part of their life in support of the fans who watched them. With Hololive becoming the most popular corporation in the entire vtubingsphere, everybody else began copying everything they did in order to attract more fans themselves, leading to the culture of vtubing being split between "idols" and "regular streamers".
This whole preamble was just to set the context to say that the only ones who see vtubers and don't think they're just normal people doing their best are shitposters taking the opportunity to overreact and shit on other tribes for Twitter gibs, as fans of regular vtubers see fans of idol vtubers as embarrassing or pathetic because they don't see every woman as a whore.

>>716327461
You're one of those gaybo babiniku streamers arent you?

>>716329248
I'm a femboy
https://www.twitch.tv/harumizukich

>>716329327
>No, I'm THIS flavor of faggot
Same thing. Thanks for the insight though.

Vtubers are one of those things like Undertale or Danganronpa where the source material in a vacuum is good but somehow the actual fanbase it gathered is turbo ultra mega cringe enough to drag the whole thing down.

>>716319131
>delusion is good
dude, please

>>716312389 (OP)
wouldn't have that problem if he didn't replace his life with 2d chink cartoons

>>716329581
Yeah if you're a complete faggot this is true.

>>716326201
*but also right

>>716329581
>the source material in a vacuum is good
The avatar? Live2D technology is also used in gacha so I wouldn't say the source material is ever good. What a cursed technology bringing us the ruin and death of a culture.

>>716312572

>>716316236
NeuroGODS won

>>716329581
That is sadly not the case.
Most vtuber streams rely heavily on having the chat (fanbase) there to bounce off of.
The idea of using a 2d model as your avatar is fine, and there are many youtube channels using that idea, but livestreaming has the element of interaction as its main marketing pull.
>You too can send an annoying tts message to this woman if you swipe your credit card now.
It is basically impossible to remove this element because it is the main way those platforms make money. Ad revenue gets nuked every few months by a small gust of wind, so they lean into the parasocial aspect.

>>716312389 (OP)
>Nostalgic for vtubers
Nigga

>>716329581
Undertale is pure homosuck cringe and its no mistake that its fans are equally lame and gay

>>716329327

as an outside observer who never watched any, vtubers are a really funny concept to me since they are, genuinely, just modern day puppet shows. fucking hilarious.
once upon a time children gathered to watch puppet shows and laugh, and now they do again, it went from live to staged on television back to live again

>>716330495
It's circles all the way back

>>716330495
At its most reduced level you're not wrong.
It's the same for TV in general.

>>716330640
what's amusing to me is the live aspect of it, the puppet actually interacting with the audience of kids again after like 300 years

>>716312389 (OP)
play and master factorio

>>716330723
That's just streamers in general. Vtubers are a catch-all term for content creators on youtube using a virtual avatar, hence "V" "Tuber".

>>716314860
Back people saw the character but now they only see the actor playing the character.

>>716330495
Few things have evolved at all culturally. You still dance like a monkey and throw resources at females. People attend live music. Society being advanced is the joke.

>>716330495
Movies and stageplays are not so different from puppet shows either. Likening one performative medium to another doesn't really have the sting you intended.
The larger difference would be that the average vtuber content is mindnumbing brainrot that I do not think kids would even have the patience to sit through.
You are comparing a 20 minute puppet show to 4 hours minimum of low effort noise.

>>716313786
>posts on 4chan

>>716330495
that makes sense and all but i don't think people back then wanted to fuck the puppets

>>716330959
ah but they never made the puppets sexy back then

>>716330959
>but i don't think people back then wanted to fuck the puppets
Anon...

>>716313917
your average discord mod

>>716330959
>implying miss piggy didn't have a fanbase of coomers back then

I would much rather watch a streamer who is just being themselves instead of playing some annoying character
In other words, I only watch male streamers

>>716330946
>Movies and stageplays are not so different from puppet shows either
no, that's not right. only at the *most basic* level is that true, but at that level ALL entertainment boils down to the same thing, thus dissolving any comparison. just because there's a "story" doesn't make "everything the same", and not all puppet shows had "stories".
vtubers are a box, a voice, and a little representation of a character being wiggled around in real time to evoke animation with the actor behind the scene giving it a voice, it's the same

>>716312389 (OP)
Retards are misinterpreting the picture. Left is an episode of anime, look at the time stamp. No, your early gen vtubers were not any less soulless then current ones.

>>716316236
I mean they're not actually well adjusted women though, they often have mental health baggage
Idk if that makes it better or worse

>>716331596
>they often have mental health baggage
Show me a woman in 2025 who doesnt.

>>716331492
?
dude you're not this stupid, i'm sure. the time stamp is just to show the vtuber videos used to be shorter, now they aren't. don't be retarded again please

>>716316236
>while anon doesn't stagnates in life.
He was going to experiencing that anyway.
Most men of our generation will never own a home, get married or have children.
Their greatest achievement in life will be having leased an electric car.

>>716331671
If you didn't make the image you have no authority over its intent. I also suspected it was about animeslop

>>716321631
>Needing something playing in the background at all times
I read Nigger

>>716312389 (OP)
https://youtube.com/watch?v=m3P8clTpd4A

I liked 'vtubers' when they were just avatars for autistic people making skits. The moment they got real women on it to abuse gay parasocial shit is when it fell off.

>>716315296
more like
vtubers then:
>japanese girls trying to act as anime as possible

vtubers now:
>women from every country, especially america
>foulmouthed, crass and constant sexual "humor"
>allows text to speech donation messages to say cringy or pervy shit and then just laughs it off

>>716331671
Nobody watched vtubers until covid lockdowns in 2020.
Kind of like how nobody actually played minecraft before the hunger update.
People just love to bitch about things they miss despite having never experienced it.

>>716331661
I mean more than your average BPD

>>716319940
>just talk to people dood
>girls are always wearing airpods
>if you try to talk to them this is considered rude

>>716321631
Long youtube videos are 95% slop but there's some good stuff in there

>>716321631
footy or music
writing that made me feel like an ancestral fossil

>>716319131
unironically this

>>716312993
GeForce Experience is dead. Everyone uses the Nvidia App now.

Being a woman is so advantageous even some beat bitch can fleeces hundreds of men at once by putting her voice on some anime character.

I never got the mindset of giving these bitches money if they aint working providing a service for you like anyone else in the fucking world like making you food or washing you car or doing your taxes why the fuck you paying them?

Let me fucking tell you not having "gf taxes" when single is probably the best part of it. Some cunt is gonna leech off your ass eventually dont act like its a privilege to deal with these social and fiscal parasytes. Honestly you got money to waste on that shit save up and be a passport bro fuck it 100% if you go to a place in south america or asia you can find a hot bitch to take to dinner and fuck and have adventures with bitches that will actually invest time in you and give a shit if you like them or not.

I promise you latinas and non Americanized asians are way hotter than these dumpy white bitches you are donating to. Don't settle either you mother fuckers don't realize it but humans don't even look that different from each other you don't need to be a chad to get a hot girl aim for the stars and get your self a fuckin babe just have basic hygiene and dont be a fat rude fuck if you are white you aint got a god dang excuse the world is your fuggin oyster you pasty crap

>>716319940
Herpes looks like it sucks.

>>716319131
Being alone isn't good, but pretending you have a friendship or romantic relationship with someone you're just sending money to is mental illness, and it won't help you get out of the loneliness rut. Go to a bar and meet a fat ugly chick. Get some pussy. Get some confidence. Start hooking up with increasingly hotter chicks. Eventually you'll be able to find a decent girl who doesn't look like Rocky Dennis.

>>716332475
>if you go to a place in south america or asia you can find a hot bitch to take to dinner and fuck and have adventures with bitches that will actually invest time in you and give a shit
I laughed

>>716312389 (OP)
find a game you think looks neat and play it.

>>716332674
Can confirm. Women are evil and will give you STDs because they have no sense of culpability

>>716319940
because i don't care about women or sex

>>716319940
I really really REALLY hate having to put on the mask and pretend they're interesting

>>716332905
They're supposed to be cute and funny, not interesting. You are interesting to them.

>>716332735
>Go to a bar and meet a fat ugly chick.
NO ONE GOES TO BARS ANYMORE YOU DUMB NIGGER
IT'S ALL 50+ YEAR OLD BOOMERS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES WHO CAN STILL AFFORD IT

>>716333065
>IT'S ALL 50+ YEAR OLD BOOMERS
So pick up a 50+ year old woman. You have to start somewhere.
>I'd rather just whine and be a kissless virgin

>>716333170
>I would rather whine and be a kissless virgin
>instead of getting roastie STDs out of desperation
Yes.

>>716333170
>waste your prime years connecting with a barren hag
That might be the worst advice I've seen here lately.
That would only be good if you have zero desire to start a family or have a life partner.

>>716319940
I had a girlfriend when I was 18 through a friend group I became part of by acting like a normalfag.
She was batshit insane, cut herself and started drama almost every single day. I broke up with her after a year.
Shortly afterwards I got hit by the premature balding curse and spent the next six year coming to terms with my appearance.
I am now 29. I'm ugly, have no charming personality and live in Europe, so I am also not rich.
This makes dating apps and approaching women on the street a no-go and the women I meet through work/the gym aren't interested in me.
So the simple truth is, I have nothing to offer anyone.

>>716312389 (OP)
>I want a new hobby, tell me where do I start with actively playing video games?
The latter part of that makes no sense. What are you trying to say?

>>716333380
get a toupee

>>716330959
>he doesn't know the japanese have been doing this for centuries

>>716332770
Yea cause people get married without dating or doing shit right? please exlain to me what your issue with latinas is

>>716333170
t. Collective Shout member

>>716333309
It's amazing how you're going to justify being a loser because you don't want to put in the effort of getting laid. Bad sex still makes your dick cum.
>>716333354
>connecting
You really are new, aren't you? It's literally
>want to come back to my place?
If you learn her name, you've done too much.

>>716333595
latins and SEA do not care about you any more than the average white gold-digger

>>716333559
I'm sorry, but I would sooner kill myself than put on a fucking toupee like a goddamned clown.
I've come to terms with the fact that I will die alone. I'm not satisfied with it, but it is what it is.

>>716312389 (OP)
Every Vtuber audience is just parasocial. There's no justifiable reason to watch mediocre entertainment where everything is average or even below average.
Anyway play card games like poker, blackjack, dominoes, mahjong, etc

>>716333726
>It's amazing that you have standards modern society can't meet
Yes.

>>716312969
What happened to her?

>>716333726
>you don't want to put in the effort of getting laid
I don't want to have sex, I want to have a relationship.
Maybe stop thinking with your dick for a second or two.

>>716333865
Your "standards" are so high that you're miserable. Ever consider you might not be a 10/10 millionaire gigachad, and you shouldn't be trying to land Miss America? Well, not "trying," because you just pay VTubers for fake affection.

>>716333726
>connection bad
>read up
Oh, you have brain damage from being a slut. Go stick your rotting dick up your own ass.

>>716332025
Kizuna Ai was fucking huge in 2016, you clearly weren't there for it either

>>716333996
Learn to walk before you can fly.

>>716334017
>Your "standards" are so high that you're miserable.
If the standards of
>be around my age
>don't be fat
>don't have children
>don't cheat on me
is considered to be "high", then women simply aren't worth it.

>>716321631
lolcow documentaries

>>716334096
Fucking whores won't make women suddenly feel attracted to you, retard.

>>716315162
Zoomies only play multiplayer slop

>>716312389 (OP)
Play sports, graduate high school or equivalent, no criminal or disease record, accrue debt and related depression

>>716334017
>>716334227
>Get emotionless sex from aging roasties
>miserable
>Get no sex or relationship from compatible females of my demographic
>miserable
The only winning move is to shoot politicians in the head

>>716313917
This is the average 4chan user and that's a good thing

>>716334305
It's about building confidence. You find it easier to approach women each time, until you find one worth keeping, and you don't go
>I DESPERATELY WANT TO MAKE LOVE TO A SCHOOLBOY
in front of her.
The ritual is learning the signals and how to interact. You're not going to wife someone with your only experience of women being Muchi-chan in Pochi Waka Shin Turtle Wa!! Desu Poko Panic.

>>716334392
Their greatest trick was to fool everyone into thinking that violence is never the answer.
That said, violence truly is never the answer. And I'm not just saying that because this statement would be considered terrorism otherwise.

>>716316236
that's every streamer they are all fake and view botting you have to be retarded to not notice this.

>>716312389 (OP)
What the hell is this supposed to mean

>>716334541
>You find it easier to approach women each time
?
Who said I'm not approaching women? Sounds like you're talking to a strawman you've made up in your head.
I approach women all the time, they're simply not into me.
>oh yeah? how do you tell?
It's actually very easy to tell: if a woman mentions a boyfriend within two minutes of the start of the conversation, it's a signal that she's not interested.

>>716313786
>>one of those wojak edit guys
Oddly defensive, show hand.

>>716320123
I don't get people who were there for the persona to begin with. That always came across as fake and uncanny to me.
A good streamer is someone who you can tell is genuinely a cool person (stop watching Hololive, btw).

>>716334776
Turns out vtubers aren't anime girls you can interact with, but women pretending to be anime girls you can interact with.

>>716333380
I'd say invest in your outfit. Of course I can't say how much it helps. But a good looking outfit greatlty improves attractiveness. already attractive people look better in worse clothes and the opposite is true. It's not a miracle cure but it could boost you.
I only say this because one of my favorite youtubers suddenly showed himself in a suit and it really made him stand out in a good way

>>716334841
>I approach women all the time, they're simply not into me.
You're trying to play Hard Difficulty with the starting weapons, and it's balanced for repeat playthroughs. You can't build confidence with failure, and confidence is everything. You have to start with practice girls and work your way up to the ones you're actually interested in.

>>716315162
Because it's a video game genre that actually has good stories. Therefore it's too good for us.
>>716316369
Don't forget mazes. God I fucking hate mazes: guess what maze is this! (the icons are random, sorry. But a red square indicates it's a safe space)

>>716319940
I'm an incel, i had 6 gf's only at the age of 32 and i realized that i can't pull anymore due to aging. My mom just tells me to settle for a girl my age but i don't want a used hag and she tells me that 22 year old girls are out of my reach and i should listen to her, also my 38 year old sister says the same

>>716328216
>High Fleet
havent actually tried that one, i didnt try every single game he reviewed, but the ones i did i usually quit very quickly due to the sheer autism needed to play them

>>716335036
>You have to start with practice girls
Said "practice girls" don't exist.

>>716319940
I'm married. An arranged one...

>>716335153
They most certainly do.

>>716335015
Clothes help, but not as much as you think. And I do hope you're already dressing decently when going to the office.
Just dressing in modern, logo-free clothes is enough. If anyone needs help, replace your jeans with chino and shop at Uniqlo for decent quality stuff.
You can try and be fashionable by wearing jewelry, watches and extra clothing accessories, but that won't help if you're not wearing it just because you want to.

>>716330838
>tfw never bought the bit and never got why people liked vtubers

>>716335293
Pictured: a married women. Not sure what your point is.
And no, femcels do not exist. Even the fattest of women have dozens of men lining up for them.
Don't hate them for it, it's just the way it is.

>>716312389 (OP)
The beginning, but first we need to establish the beginning of Video Games which is a topic of discussion between some people somewhere probably.

What is a video game? A computer game with a changeable display. Changeable here means that it can form new "graphics" on the screen itself. Pre-baked graphics like LCD games or "additrons" (A type of tube that can display only numbers) do not count. On the one hand a 2x2 monochrome screen does for this purpose even if it might display far less information. Computer game refers to the act of computing rather than what we consider a computer now. This disqualifies anything analog that does no digital computing alongside it.

Obviously I still have your undivided attention, so where do we start then? The CRT amusement device is out, it's analog. Turochamp never actually ran on a computer. Bertie the Brain is out due to its use of Additrons. This leaves us at Nimrod. A custom-built computer that can play a game of Nim. Its "screen" is really just some small indicator lights, but is allowed due to how its worded.

Now obviously you need to understand the history of the game of Nim, the first true videogame, to really be ready to get into the hobby. Variants of this videogame have been played since ancient times, some might say it even originated in China as 捡石子 (which you can read), but China does like to take credit for a great many things. The rules have only been reconstructed since 1901, so it's a relatively modern remake if you think about it. You are to take objects from piles. The player who picks last loses, you can pick any amount of objects from a single pile.

Have fun with your new hobby, Anon. Shoot me a PM when you've done that so we can move on to the next!

>>716335632
Thank you, ChatGPT.

>>716335597
Funny. I did the very thing I described. I worked my way up from the disgusting to a pretty cute Guatemalan I live with.

>>716335293
need this fat pig

>>716318842
does he still write his videos though? I thought he started outsourcing that in some cases

>>716335735
Well, I'm glad for you that you're not hideous. Or that you have charming personality. Or that you're simply very rich.
...you do live in a first world country, right? Because these issues aren't present in third-world countries.

>>716334932
>streamer
>genuinely a cool person
congrats, you fell for a persona
these don't exist

>>716312389 (OP)
Fuck, I remember when vtubers where just a weird fringe novelty and now anons wasted already entire lives on them.

I don't really watch vtubers but some of them got killer designs, like Shiori. It's sad how hard it is to find cool looking anime girl designs these days.

>>716335284
Jeet and/or Sikh?

>>716336384
Sandnigger.

>>716336550
are you the miss piggy coomer this guy >>716331249
is talking about?

>>716336330
I subscribe to a lot of vtubers but the moment I hear them actually talk I lose interest. I just like seeing the thumbnails and that qt anime girls are playing games

>>716335986
There's some where you see they're not focused on being wacky or someone else.
Gab Smolders (besides playing streamerbait stuff) is pretty much herself as far as I can tell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7pjeihnzfU
Angel Alyx is also just her mellow self: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TtRe-v0bJM
A lot of chicks do the standard hyperactive quick cutting with interspersed memes shit, or whore it up with low cut tops and cat ear headphones, but there are a few people who seem genuine.

>>716312389 (OP)
>the fake woman I simp for online was actually a real woman who only cares about woman things and not ME all along
>how could this happen to me

>>716336936
NTA you're replying to, but ALL streamers put on a persona.
None of them are the happy, hyperactive people they pretend to be in real life.
Know why they do this? Because it causes people like you to watch them and spend money on them.

>>716336550
Is this a cultural relic, or does property still play a large part why this is done? Anyway, how do you and your wife feel about each other (if you don't mind me asking)?

>>716336550
how's the wife?

>>716337276
An attractive chick can be herself and get away with it, because people tune in to look at her. That's why both the examples I posted aren't really doing much other than playing the games like they normally would.

>>716330495
Actually, a better analogy is that vtubers are titty streamers but for anime fans. Exactly the same in every other aspect.
>but brooo she's like actually funny and plays good games bro she's different from the rest
So said the titty streamer viewers too, no one believes this cope.
It astounds me coming from an era when everyone hated women online and seeing any woman post/stream herself immediately got her attacked for being an attention whore, and now they're worshipped. Strange times

>>716337470
>because people tune in to look at her
The part where she gives attention to the people watching her is faked.

>>716337723
The two I mentioned, Gab Smolders (only looks at the chat when she's stuck) and Angel Alyx (I don't watch her streams but her pure gameplay videos where she's just taking to herself) don't have that issue.
I really do hate the cunts who miss half the game because they're like
>Hi, dicklicker3745! Thanks for joining!
every few seconds, then some animation of a guy flossing shows up because someone gifted a sub.

>>716337918
Anon, I get that you're lonely, but these women do not care about your existence.

>>716312389 (OP)
Imagine being such a complete and utter faggot that you couldn't immediately tell vtubers were just ugly women using anime avatars to appeal to losers like yourself. It wouldn't matter if vtubers didn't exist at all: you would inevitably find some other faggot hobby to become obsessed with and eventually realize you were a loser either way.

I am genuinely grateful to have no ability to empathize with these subhumans. They deserve to lose all their money and time and get absolutely nothing in return.

>>716338004

>>716328110
>the appeal of live interaction with my audience
Which disappears as soon as the vtuber gets over 100 viewers and stops reading the livechat.

>>716313786
Out of all of these, I just watch cartoons. But only older stuff from before my time.

>>716338004
The worst part is that a lot of them aren't even ugly. People find their pics and a lot of them are solid 8/10s. They are stacies who came into a nerd hobby just to exploit lonely men.

>>716338234
This just reeks of some /r9k/ refugee

>>716337984
>can't read American
Why do you swarthy losers come to 4chan? I just like watching a hot chick play games. I don't give them money, nor do I think I'm in a relationship with them. Are you retarded? Don't answer. It was rhetorical.

>>716338234
I wish vtubers actually were ugly IRL desu

>>716338351
Your perception of /r9k/ is outdated by about 4 years.

>>716330946
>Likening one performative medium to another doesn't really have the sting you intended.
No, it is pretty embarrassing. It's basically the cloth mother for monkeys except for humans.
It's not watching vtubers in itself that's bad, it's getting attached to them, or worse, deluding yourself that they're pure 2D anime girls and not real women anymore.