we are going HOME

>>716312487 (OP)
classic wow fatigue

>game requires elevated privileges to launch
>application binaries have changed and are now unsigned
>all that should happen in reality is you point an old client to a different server
>uses an RCE to access anything on your machine
uh huh?

>>716312596
coping Troondle freak

>>716312980
Not an argument, I accept your concession. Enjoy your malware.

>>716313163
coping Troondle freak

>>716313493
Not sure why you're signing an empty post.

>>716312596
proofs?

>>716313839
That's how they push client updates anon. Because its elevated, it has access to everything on your machine.

>>716313918
>Because its elevated, it has access to everything on your machine
P R O O F S ?

>>716315237
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/security/privileged-access-workstations/privileged-access-security-levels
your tech illiteracy isn't my problem anon

>>716312487 (OP)
cant wait to slaughter horde niggers on another server

>>716312487 (OP)
>PvP realm
okay, now you actually have my attention
I didnt care for that crossfaction tranny shit, despite the server looking interesting, but now I might actually give it a go

>>716312596
>third worlders would rather compromise their PCs than pay Blizzard $12 a month
Kek

>>716312596
Use sandboxie, nigga

>>716317057
introduces a load of issues for games

Turtle wow already exists

>>716312487 (OP)
Most astroturfed server ever.

>>716316981
thirdies are in classic botting and selling gold, 12$ is no longer a filter, and wow token also exists.

>>716316981
>pay Blizzard

>>716317116
you tell them SISTER!

>>716312487 (OP)
redpill me on paladins
is ret actually playable in this?

No you not

>>716320963
thats not Shitzzard, sister

>>716320963
Is that Archeage

>>716320963
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I don't know what class to pick

They fucked up massively by splitting the playerbase into two servers. This will be dead within a few months because of it.

>>716323212
just put on the skirt already, healslut

>>716312596
funny, it doesn't ask for elevated privileges when i launch it

>>716323340
no they didnt, troon
the REAL realm is the pvp one, no one likes the crossfaction faggotry

Everyone will just roll mage and warrior again, wont they...

>>716323784
Mage is the least popular class, ackshually

>>716323617
>split your playerbase
>inevitably one server dies
>half your playbase stuck on dead server
it's stupid to have warmode AND a pvp server

>>716323617
>The refugee realm they came up with 3 days before launch is the TRVE and REAL server bro trust me

>>716312487 (OP)
so how difficult are leveling and dungeons going to be now with the changes they made?

>>716324839
correct

>>716325057
theyll hopefully filter your weeb shitter ass

>>716325990
anime website, faggot

>>716326102
okay, just stick to the website only please

Any way to login on the website?

>>716323450
I ain't healing. Might go tauren shadow priest, but more realistically warlock, rogue or mage

>>716312596
>game requires elevated privileges to launch
But that's objectively false. Neither the installer nor the actual modified Wow.exe require that.

>>716327697
>tauren shadow priest
tranniest shit aside for crossfaction is adding those retarded fucking race combos

>>716312487 (OP)
its time to let go, its a 20 years old fucking game

>>716329343
I don't mind them. I wish we had tauren rogue, that's what I really want to play

>>716331006
clownshow

>>716317968
I keep hearing about trannies in turtle wow but I've never seen them. I did however see a guy spamming nigger in the world chat and only got a 2 day chat mute for it

>>716331706
I really don't see the issue, what's wrong with tauren rogues?

LMAO

>>716332192
do you expect those servers to run on goodwill or something? every huge private server has some type of monetization, id rather its that than Shenna and Crogge making deals with chink bot goldfarmers for actual hundreds of thousands of dollars

>>716332192
legit you'd be retarded not to do this these days, "people" will actively beg for the opportunity to purchase cosmetic slop.

>>716312487 (OP)
>TBC talents with wrath abilities
What? Why? Why would I wanna play some 3rd party dungeons with already know a spells and talents?

>>716331723
Every raiding guild I've joined has had a tranny clogging up comms with their shitty trying-too-hard feminine voice.

Thinking about joining Texas Knights but I also hate those that make it their personality to repeat nigger as well.

>>716331723
it was way worse when it was a smaller server, the trannies were way more vocal and obvious, now it has too many normies silencing them out

>le epic new vanilla plus experience
>warriors are STILL a broken mess
simple epic

>>716331723
There is barely any, it's just people on /v/ mad they got banned for saying nigger or couldn't progress further than BWL cause they suck.

Same thing will happen in Epoch.

>>716335429
at least mages are nerfed, apparently

>>716336976
Mages weren't OP in TBC (PvE) and afaik they're using TBC talents. Balance gonna be a mess.

>>716337404
its not pure TBC shit, they are adding some new spells to every class, but yeah, im sick of every single vanilla server being a magefest

>>716323784
No its classic+ retail-
For PvE more classes are going to be competitive at more roles in the game and healers wont "have to" heal anymore. and imo the PvP balance will be a total shitshow with hybrids/healers being so OP it will kill the PvP server shortly after launch. im a pvp guy though and am still gonna play PvP server, i guess.

>>716335429
are you mentally ill? the hybrid classes were buffed so hard its going to kill the PvP server and you are crying that warriors can still be good in PvE?

>>716312487 (OP)
where da heck is alex

>>716340001
hes a blizzshill nowadays

>>716339735
>healers wont "have to" heal anymore
wtf does that even mean

>>716340608
Didn't he shit on some Classic server in one of his recent videos?

>>716340970
hes still making videos? thought everyone told him to fuck off. last ive heard form him was him jizzing over the official classic realms, after he embarrassed himself in literally every single big private server launch

>>716323579
>>716328551
You're probably those retards that disabled UAC thinking you're smart.

>>716341726
just take the L, troondle weirdo

>>716342181
What L? You haven't provided any counter-argument. I won, you lost.

>playing wow in 202X

>>716316068
Hordes always dominates pvp in WoW. Come on kid.

Why are shills spamming this crap here?

>>716340691
hybrids cry rivers of tears about how in 1% of the game (raids) they are expected to play a support role and heal. Epoch is buffing their other roles so they can do them better and more people will accept them doing those roles now.

>>716312487 (OP)
finally a busy classic server that isnt tranny wow? I’ll have to chec..
>”classic plus”
>they ruined wailing caverns

DROPPED

>>716343262
you are the one who needs to proof his claim, loser

>>716344414
I have you giga retard (>>716315448) but you completely ignored this post because it completely raped you.
I accept your concession.

>Tech illiterate retard has gone silent again hoping the thread dies
Raped

>>716312487 (OP)
Unless they are banning every IP from China and Russia, you're not going home.

>>716344530
you havent done shit, you still havent showed that the launcher actually requires this

>>716347482
https://www.project-epoch.net/play/
>Our custom .exe and .dll must be installed within the base of your install alongside your normal Wow.exe
All private servers require this you tech illiterate dipshit, that's how they get custom client code in. The binaries aren't signed and there is no source provided. It requires elevated privileges to interact with the WoW.exe process.

jesus, this schizo is STILL going?

>>716312487 (OP)
Retard, check the script again. We're playing OSRS

>>716312596
Only requires privileges if you put it in Program Files or something like that (as explicitly explained in the installer). Put it on your desktop or something.

>>716349326
>we
all the troons, yeah

>>716349262
You're absolutely terrified of discussing this with me because you're tech illiterate. I accept your concession. I'll post it again.
>game requires elevated privileges to launch
>application binaries have changed and are now unsigned
>all that should happen in reality is you point an old client to a different server
>uses an RCE to access anything on your machine
>hosting an MMO for "free"
uh huh?

>>716350283
>>hosting an MMO for "free"
who are you quoting?

>>716312487 (OP)
Sell me on Tauren Resto Druid.

>>716321034
>Shitzzard
its worse and more common for players to buy gold in wow, you just don't see them advertising the websites ingame often.

to give you a rough estimate: around 200k players have bought gold with irl currencies in wow

>>716351698
Yes...? Thats exactly what I said?

Alexbros....

>>716351698
>my dumbass forgot to censor the screenshot

>>716352156
Alex WON

>>716350283
>game requires elevated privileges to launch
repeating this won't make it true schizokun

>>716351208
You get to choose some clan totems as cosmetic back items for Tauren in Epoch so that's cool, Druid also has a normal rez unlike in actual Vanilla.

How are priests when it comes to pvp pocket healing compared to the other options?

>>716353173
They're a bit fucked defensively, near everyone will be rocking WotF so Psychic Scream is gimped and their new tools seem more suited for PvE (a group barrier is awesome but channeled? yuck)

>>716312487 (OP)
seriously considering going to the PVP zone bros

>60% of players going pve
>no xfaction pve content on pvp server so you're at best playing with 20% of the playerbase
lol
lmao

>>716353546
you cant get another races racials until endgame, and ill bet a lot of classes will end up taking stoneform or orc racial over WotF

I'm doing the frost mage tree and I feel like I must be doing something wrong because I'm not really branching out into other trees. What would you guys recommend?

>>716354101
Don't forget Escape Artist.

>>716354101
Only Rogues will want Stoneform since they'll have Cloak of Shadows for most debuffs, Orc stun resist got nerfed to 15% from 25 I dunno if it's that worth it.

>>716354124
Nah that's how frost is, nearly all blue with a bit of arcane.

most fun class?

>>716354410
Oh sick, that's exactly what I did. Thanks anon

>>716354451
Hunter especially with the deadzone removed, weaving melee/ranged autos was always so satisfying.

>>716312487 (OP)
Shill it to me. Why should I play there instead of SoD ?

>>716355058
sod is unironically dead

what makes this so special

>>716312596
>>uses an RCE to access anything on your machine
Source?

>>716355058
if paying money to blizzard isnt already enough idk what to tell you

>>716355058
you shouldn't
play sod or mop classic or turtlewow

>>716355058
Make your own choices for once in your fucking life.

>when he pronounces it “E-pock” instead of “epic”

>>716355989
>>716312487 (OP)
>undead paladins
>dwarf shamans
>TRANSfaction
nah, shit shit is lame and gay

>>716312487 (OP)
wotlk client numbers a dmg
its going to be garbage easy

Restro druids are good for PvP healing and Priests are better for PvE, right?

>>716356401
They tuned up mobs across the board.
People in the beta were getting filtered by Dead Mines

>>716356556
not really i played the beta my pet could tank bosses.

Finna do HC ong no cap type shit

sex with fem tauren

>>716355989
the edits of this chart always crack me up

>>716355058
>some shitty free pserver will last longer than sod
kek oh the irony

>>716312487 (OP)
this is like the 20th time we have gone home in 6 years.

>>716356401
retard

>>716358214
home...home again...

>>716355216
nothing lol it freakin sucks lmao

Still not playing retail or final troontasy

>>716360243
t. roondle tranny

>>716358612
payless shill keep sucking tranny cock

>>716358214
Shadowlands classic... home

>>716312487 (OP)
Help me out bros, Warrior or Paladin?
This will be my first time playing wow in more than 10 years. I plan to be very casual and do mainly PvP with a side of PvE, in which I always liked tanking and leading groups.
Which of those would be better?
I'm also open to other possibilities for classes in PvP, maybe Rogue, Hunter?

>>716312487 (OP)
it's the same shit over and over again

People will realize what a snoozefest this server is it's using the WotLK client with super easy leveling. It’s not Classic at all, and it’s nothing new. Other servers have already done the whole WotLK client on Vanilla content, just without the talents. Everything is dumbed down: leveling is easier, botting is easier, PvP is easier raids will be a joke like bots can clear it

The WotLK client means all the modern addons work—nameplates, Deadly Boss Mods, WeakAuras, everything. AOE grinding is a joke, you can probably solo every single dungeon.

Some people say “just tune the numbers!”—yeah right. The addons wouldn’t even function properly if they actually did that. And now they’ve announced another server, completely contradicting what they just said before. These Epoch devs can’t keep their word.

Now you’re splitting the PvP and PvE community—and even splitting the PvP crowd in half. Every fresh server gets high numbers for like three weeks, then it dies out. I see the same thing happening again with this so-called PvP server.

Wowshill fatigue

>>716361968
Paladin looks busted but Warrior has Bladestorm

>>716362035
What compels a manchild to post AI slopaganda like this

Hello

why would I play this over wow classic ? it doesn't have any added value.

>>716362160
mpreg emote spam was still extremely fun.

>>716362205
>wanting to actively play with bots
just play a singleplayer game dude.

>>716362298
You really believe that epoch won't be full of bots? lmao

>>716362205
Idk man just bee urself

they're splitting the already super small playerbase into a pvp and pve server. it's doa

>>716361542
retard

>>716312487 (OP)
Holy hell they actually added a PvP server, I will now play your game!

servers hosted in united kingdom, lmao. enjoy your 300ms

>>716362035
>People will realize what a snoozefest this server is it's using the WotLK client with super easy leveling. It’s not Classic at all, and it’s nothing new. Other servers have already done the whole WotLK client on Vanilla content, just without the talents. Everything is dumbed down: leveling is easier, botting is easier, PvP is easier raids will be a joke like bots can clear it
retard

>>716362561
it's AI you mong

>>716362591
you are ai

>>716362524
>being a mutt
???

>>716362524
>united kingdom
>300ms

>>716362524
Good job outing yourself, negro

>>716362524
Only people that matter are English anyway

>>716362616
>>716362709
>>716362782
>>716362869
>all these bongs
Explains all the awful takes. Anyways enjoy being banned from 4chan when your shithole does what it loves to do with their new law.

>>716325057
Should be around the same or better for some classes now that the have quality of life and stronger talent points along with more filler spells. It was mainly to stop cheese strats like mob tagging and aoe farming.

>>716338840
Well they got rid of aoe farming and nerfed cheese combos so mages are going to be less popular unless you just like the specs.

>>716316475
>pvp realm
only if you enable it or fight a world boss that force enables faction lines
otherwise its another tranny crossfaction hugbox
btw nobody did pvp in all 3 betas so expect bugs too

>>716363403
Who said anything about being British, retard? People were just making fun of you for outing yourself as a third world monkey. Ping across the Atlantic is less than 200.

>>716312487 (OP)
Buy an ad

Wow, these threads have been absolutely shit the past couple of days. I hope the troons lose interest once the server launches and we can go back to actually talking about the game.

>>716335429
>t. """dps""" paladin

should I play this if I played wow like 10 years ago and never opened it again?

>>716364327
one thing has nothing to do with the other

nigger

>>716363905
No they're actually opening a separate pvp server

>>716312487 (OP)
yeah... there's nothing else to do.... i guess..........

discord mod just a did a mass ban because people were using the pregnant emoji.

the community is cucked by sois already, just fyi.

ross is a faggot nigger

>>716364539
Imagine knowing the guy by name, lol

>>716364591
its his discord name, stupid-san.

>>716364539
And altered is an ex-Everlook mod with an history of power tripping as well as a pedo.

>>716364054
nah, we are indeed making fun of him for being an amerimutt

LAUGH AT WOW CHUDS

Turtle defense force finally awoke I see.

https://www.project-epoch.net/news/announcing-gurubashi/

>>716364539
>just
That was at least like 12 hours ago

>>716365647
Yesterday when the PvP server was announced, specifically.

>>716312487 (OP)
undead paladins? tauren priest? i dont fucking think so lmao

>>716365638
I feel better knowing they have an end-of-life plan. Now there's no reason not to roll PvP.

>>716365638
>your Kezan names will be copied over
I'm alright with that as I got the names I wanted
definitely going guru now

>>716365638
>already damage controlling because they know the pvp server will fail
>it's not even out yet

splitting the community into two server is a bold choice lmao

>>716366287
There are more than 60,000 registered accounts for servers that crap out at 5,000 players

>>716366340
> 60,000 registered accounts
how many of those are bots?

>>716366162
It's called pattern recognition and preventive medicine.

>>716331723
>he listened to /v/ again
sad, many such cases

>>716366412
60,000, because you want that to be the answer

>>716366492
yeah, it's all ME

>>716353781
crossfaction pve is gay, fuck off turtlefag

>>716366563
Lies, half are me reserving the random names.

>>716331723
>>716317968
look here they are sexy trans night elfs in you area

RETAIL WON

>>716364539
>mass ban because people were using the pregnant emoji
But why?

>>716362615
everybody is a washing machine

>>716364786
why tf is it always the same people everywhere, over and over?

>>716367636
It takes a rare mix of autism and power tripping to want to be a janny on a private server for a 20 yera old mmo.

>>716331723
Thats because you play Horde

>>716331723
its an alliance thing, horde is for working class 40 year old businessmen

Can someone explain why I'd play WoW over FFXIV?

>>716368446
>businessmen
>working class
do you sell vaccum cleaners?

>>716331723
I was hanging out in Goldshire the other day and saw some dude call his friend a nigger in /say, change his mind, and then say he was a dirty Jew. Didn't get banned for it. I assume most people don't care but you'll get enough eyes on you for screaming nigger in world chat that you'll get reported a few times and banned.

>>716368573
no

>>716365647
yes. this planet has been here for almost 14 billion years i think half a day is a close enough period of time to say "just"

>>716368573
Because even after 20+ years WoW still feels responsive and satisfying to play in a way no other MMO has managed to top.

>>716368657
He sells his bussy

>>716368573
>More responsive
>Better classes
>Better zones
>Better leveling experience
>Better open world content
>Better lore (Pre-Cata)
>This one is free

>>716367338
the theory is that they consider it some anti-trans dogwhistle, but at the time it was just being spammed regularly on every post, it wasnt being used for any kind of hate speech.

its not in their server rules but is apparently bannable.

>>716368573
FF14 looks like shit.

>>716368962
>more responsive
not really
>better classes
LOL
>better zones
nope
>leveling experience
you mean wow tokens
>open world content
such as
>lore
black womyn and cripples
>this one is free
like your MOM

Filtering bait post

Why make the servers in the UK (muslim shithole)? Devs just want good ping while the majority suffer

>>716369026
He said pre-cata for lore. Did you not see that?
To add on to his post better pvp and better dungeons

>>716362345
It'll have real GMs and not be bribed into accepting them so even if not perfect it will do a way better job than Blizzard

>>716368674
They used to care. I got banned for having a "berg" name, lmfao.

>>716369026
>more responsive
>not really

>>716356057
That's right, because EpicWoW was the first private server I ever played on back in like 06-07, it was a trashy early pserver where the appeal was that all the numbers were real high and the item names were orange, you just ran around unused areas like Hyjal that had inflated enemies thoughtlessly scattered about but were otherwise empty. There was zero vision for any of it
I'd give anything to go back

>>716369461
>>716369780
He's baiting, his game is dying and he can't pick one good argument against wow when there's plenty

>>716362345
The only reason blizzards servers are full of bots is because there aren't gms anymore and blizzard gets paid by bots existing. The only "gms" retail wow has are literally tech support jeets who can't access the game because they're working in an off site call center and automatic ai customer support.
Turtle wow has no real problem with bots because turtle has actual gms and doesn't get paid by bots, the same thing will happen in epoch.

>>716369904
it has no problem with bots because no one plays it.

>>716368991
The mod doing it said it was because of "fetishism" and he banned users posting eggplant emojis too. I hate to bring current /v/ drama into this but it's the same line of thinking the Australian group that's trying to ban porn everywhere is using

>>716369975
Try playing games before talking about them.

>HORDE MY SON
>DO YOU CHOOSE HAUNTINGLY BEAUTIFUL TIRISFAL GLADES
>OR DESIGNATED SHITTING HUTS

>>716369975
I know the "sick burn" part of your brain was really excited to post that because it completely bypassed the "remembering context" part.

>>716370071
You live in a sewer.

>>716370071
Probably the latter because Tirisfal will be overflowing with more deadadins than entire Horde races but I'll play it by feel.

>>716370071
Undercity is LITERALLY the sewers where all the lordaerons flushed their shit

>>716370446
Why do the undead live in the undercity instead of the actual city of lordaeron?

>>716331723

>>>/vg/532576754

>>716370202
>>716370446
Funny how an overgrown shitpipe shares so much in common with the beloved capitol mountain-fortress of the Dwarves when it comes to layout, in many ways improving on their design.

>>716370517
They're led by a woman

>>716370517
To be edgelords

>>716370583
>Its underground so its basically the same thing!

>>716370224
Correct me if I'm wrong, but can't undead players take a zeppelin to Orgrimmar and quest from there?

>>716371360
Sure, but it's not like Durotar is gonna be much less populated on launch either.

>>716339872
its hilarious to me that when ever a class can heal or do dmg the game falls apart. lol what a shit fucking game.

>>716368573
It doesnt have Wuk Lemutt

>>716356057
For you, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4AX6Snh8wU you dumb son of a bitch.

>>716372562
its actually fine in regular classic because of the hybrid tax. but why play a dps who does 100 dps when you can play a hybrid who does 100dps and 100 hps in the same spec?

fuck it, i'm going boomkin on the pvp server. i'm going to entangling roots the shit out of every rogue and paladin i see

>>716372786
Thats not a thing. A dps spec anything is not able to take over healing if a healer dies except in trivially easy low level dungeons.

>>716369780
Holy shit look at the responsiveness!

>>716368991
>the theory is that they consider it some anti-trans dogwhistle
It's widely known that Ross is a FTM transexual. That pregnant man emoji is basically him.
Although I agree tranny jannies are bad for the server, it's understandable why a FTM transexual would oppose the pregnant male emote being spammed.

Why is there even a male pregnant emoji anyways?

>>716373827
same reason we have black hand emojis despite the default being yellow skinned simpsons emojis

>>716372898
A boomkin, ele shaman or spriest can still heal relatively well since some of the SP gear applies to healing as well. An extra 20-30 seconds of keeping the tank up can easily be the difference between a wipe and a boss kill.

>>716312487 (OP)
Sheena will just ddos their asses until they hand over the server.

>>716373827
it's a guy with a beer belly

>>716370071
undead cosmetic racial, transform into any undead npc

>>716368573
because wow has gameplay and xiv is a boring visual novel

>>716373827
you know why

>>716344270
What did they do to WC?

>>716375462
https://youtu.be/XOOxegPbmPY

>>716375881
>50 minutes
Gee, thanks.

>>716375881
rofl why the fuck would they do this
The entire point of classic+ is to avoid the kind of retarded shit cataclysm did

>>716375919
Play retail if you want dungeons to be 5 minutes long.

>>716376080
Next time sum up your argument in as few words as possible, not a 50 minute video

>>716369780
i will say, out of every MMO i've ever played, wow is still the most satisfying to move in. i don't know how they did it, or even what they did exactly, but they did it.

>>716374127
yeah, or even just on bad trash pulls. healer stood too close to the lizards in maraudon and got silenced? retard hunter pulled an extra pack with his pet? just throw out a heal or two.

>>716375881
>Party frames almost slap dab in the middle of his view
I still don't know how people can play like this. He could at least slot it in between his chat and action bars.

this is gonna be so fucking bad
>1000's of new quests
cause that was the thing classic needed most...

>>716377248
bye felicia

>>716377248
>cause that was the thing classic needed most
Well, yeah actually. You've never been to Azshara have you?

>>716372898
>Thats not a thing.
>A dps spec anything is not able to take over healing if a healer dies except in trivially easy low level dungeons.
in classic wow a druid could do any role on the fly in the 5-10 man dungeons to help save a run, if the tank dies yo ucan go to bear form and pop cooldowns and tank pretty well even in dps or healing gear.

Anyways, for these private severs where they take away the "hybrid tax" without completely reworking the class specializations it totally just fucks balance sideways.
As far as WoW game design goes there are really just 2 ways to balance hybrids.
You either do it the way current retail wow did it where you choose a spec and the abilities not in your spec do next to nothing or are not available. ie you pick DPS spec and your heals are like 25% as effective
OR
You do it the way classic wow did it where hybrids could do anything but were a little weaker at everything, with some cooldowns to make them viable in alternate roles for a few minutes
The way private servers often do it of leaving hybrids their full kit and just buffing their damage does not work, it makes non hybrids a wasted slot and ruins PvP to the point hevenm hardcore PvPers will not want to play. Hell, in Epoch they are even putting healing power on paladins DPS raid gear.

The reward for playing this shit game since its inception is you get to basically know what it feels like to live in idiocracy. You know what the idea is going to entail as the dev talks about it, you see it happen time and time again and explain why and no one believes you and then it happens exactly as you say it will over and over and the morons smack themselves in the head and say "wow who could have guessed that would be the consequences" and then in a year or two another dev makes the same mistake again.

>>716377248
Literally yes? Zones like Desolace and Azshara are a fucking wasteland of content.

>>716312487 (OP)
qrd on this? what makes it different from other servers

>>716377248
More quests and reputations would be great for classic. Imagine a reputation for different clusters of low level zones where the exalted reward was a good item to help you level in the next zones.

>>716377635
The devs hid a bunch of new items and stuff in those quests. It's also another way to earn money, if you use the loremaster challenge iirc.

>>716377649
it has so many custom changes its practically a different game but with wow classes similar how they were in early expansions

>>716312596
>Instant greentext with no proof
>dismissive when asked to prove even one claim
Blizzard still pays people to shit on p-servers?

>>716341726
This nigga believe UAC, lmao

>>716377747
They literally have this for Auberdine and Silverpine

>>716377248
>cause that was the thing classic needed most...
Yes it literally is, because it's the actual meat of the game. Most of the 30+ zones are unfinished, as are quite a few of the under 30 zones.

>>716377248
You've never actually played classic.

>Blizzcucks seething no one plays retail or their shitty MoP Classic
>Ascension fags seething everyone abandoned CoA because the devs keep delaying it
Hard to tell who, but good on Epoch for actually sticking to a schedule

>>716378079
>Epoch for actually sticking to a schedule
Epoch was supposed to come out like 2 years ago.

>>716378221
Roadmap says 7/26/25 my dude

>>716372781
It’s pronounced “Epic”, you braindead retard.

>>716378221
The first beta was around 2 years ago, and the server was nowhere near complete. Every public beta basically introduced thousands of new bugs they had to fix and are only now in a place where they can finally release a more-or-less working version.

>>716363793
>they got rid of aoe farming
how so
>nerfed cheese combos
you mean presence of mind + pyroblast?

anyone wanna play with me? I'll tank

>4 Hour day/night cycle
nigga...

>>716379120
I'll off-tank. Now we need the rest of the raid.

>Alynses in mashmak
>Does absolutely nothing of value for the team
Playing this shit should count as throwing matches.

>>716379041
Mobs are getting new ranged attack for popular aoe farm spot on top strong slows

>>716317968
me and my friend flyhacked to gm island and stole their trannysocks.

>>716379204
what's wrong with it

>>716377248
iirc, actual vanilla classic didn't have enough quests to get you to level 60, you had to painfully grind the last few levels by killing mobs in winterspring

>>716379524
no shit? quests were a pretty new concept in mmo sphere. in eq you leveled by killing shitload of monsters and turning in their drops for additional exp. wow still retained some of that dna by making grind spots with no quests nearby.

>vanilla plus (really it's vanilla minus) with janky kustom kreated kontent
these always turn out to be unbalanced shit shows where hybrids (aka paladins) are completely fucking busted and just do everything better than any other class
as if a hybrid main gets GM privileges and goes hog wild

>>716380626
how is that any different than mages and warriors

>>716380615
nah blizzard was just lazy and pushed vanilla out despite being unfinished. It's also why all the classes at end-game only have 1 functioning spec (minus warrior)

>>716380626
I feel like all these private server dev tards do not understand why the hybrid tax exists in the first place

>>716380936
mages cannot heal and blow up if warriors/rogues are able to connect on them
warriors are terrible outside of very specific circumstances in pve and pvp
the fact i need to even explain this just tells me you're a fagadin that wants to eat his cake and have it too

>>716332448
The servers are in UK.
If it will be a success ecpect them to be closed down in few months.

>>716381652
>UK server
Dead within the month

>>716381521
and I will, so fuck off kek.

>>716380936
I play warrior in vanilla, it's still somewhat exciting because the warrior can blow up the mage in 1 hit and between various trinkets and grenades and shit there are many ways to get to the mage.

>world of roguecraft on the pvp server
Surely this won't be a shitshow
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1LARV60Sj6d4cv8cx_0hNKMts8wSe51_7FUZRpY8gAC8/htmlview?usp=sharing#

>>716312980
I've seen people on turtle mention this, for awhile I thought it was bullshit until I made some russian faggot mad in low lvl BGs then he started telling me things I've googled searched nothing major it was just stuff like diets and exercise but he was very specific.
spooked the fuck out of me and made me realize the access vulnerability thing is real and even random fags can target you if your playing on their old client

>>716381913
that was the main reason I stopped playing on turtle besides the amatuerish custom content

>>716381749
you and every other brown dipshit troondin. server will be 70% paladins at least
hope you get the dress ready, its the only way you're getting an invite

>>716382016
waahhh waaaahhhh

>consider making a warlock
>no chaos bolt
>no longer consider making a warlock

>>716382084
>cries the pinky when he can't get a group

I have no clue about hunter or talent trees, how is this for leveling? I just took what seems good
https://www.project-epoch.net/classes/talents?data=2;0:1:1:1:1:1:11:11:11:14:14:9:2:2:12:12:12:12:12:10:10:10:10:10:8:8:16:16:13:13:13:13:13:5:4:17:17:17:19:19:19:20;2:22:22:22;1:3:3:3:3:3:1:1:1:1:1:17:17:4;0:19:19:15:15

I'm playing a human priest and wish I had a warrior to play and flirt with

>>716382313
>play tank
now what?

>>716382320
I don't care where you get it from, but you need a point in improved mend pet.

>>716382320
>improved revive pet instead of mend pet
>no spirit bond
Fix these.

>>716382418
you get bombarded with "INV DPS" from ret paladins, holy paladins will roll on the gear you want and clothies will dip once they realize you're trying to stack nothing but clothies
there will also be zero tank shortage with all the heckin furry druids and chadrriors filling that role, plus the plethora of fagadins who want to do anything but heal

I had more fun thinking of 2 names to reserve than I probably will playing

>>716348773
That doesn't mean it requires UAC, though.

>>716382650
what names did you reserve

>>716382645
kek yeah this is about how I see things going

>>716382320
It's TBC tree just read old shit
https://www.project-epoch.net/classes/talents?data=2;1:3:3:3:3:3:1:1:1:1:1:18:18:4:17:17;0:1:1:1:1:1:14:14:15:15:7:12:12:12:12:12:3:3:10:10:10:10:10:8:8:5:13:13:13:13:16:16:4:17:17:17:19:19:19:19:19:20;1:8:8:8:8:8

>>716382645
but I'm playing with my friends though

>>716382734
>friends

>>716382773
>projecting

>>716382645
>"INV DPS" from ret paladins
never gets old

>>716382805
yes, we know you are projecting your imaginary friends
you forget where you are?

>>716382817
I am not inviting a single one

>>716312487 (OP)
fuck it’s not out yet

>>716382858
But I actually do have /v/ friends that are gonna play with me, I don't know what you want me to tell you.

>>716382879
Correct way to play
I went my entire journey on Anniversary 1-60 without grouping with a single niggerdin. It was great. my favorite part is when they try to apply as a dps to my groups and i say
>we're all set for heals, thanks
the ensuing melty is always funny

>>716382928
not more lies, that'd be a good start

>>716382928
As someone that tried to get a friend rolling with me on another server, they always give up during leveling or shortly after so good luck.

>>716382946
kek

>>716383007
I've played on other private servers with them before

>>716382474
>>716382691
thanks I'll come up with something
>TBC trees
I didn't know this, makes things easier

>>716382996
you really can't fathom me having friends that play WoW?

>>716383189
i wont indulge in your fantasies

>>716382817
>"LF1M NEED TANK - DEADMINES!!!!!"
>t. war or ret paladin
every single time

>>716382879
While you invite a cute female warlock?
I can cast unlimited breath on us as we swim around Black fantoms deep?

>>716381856
Rogues are going to be so much stronger in world pvp since they are buffing every single mob some with dodgable attacks. A rogue can just stun lock someone and force them to eat those attacks. They can do this while also having a 1 minute CD cloak of shadows and all of them can have will of the forsaken.

>>716383337
Dolores?

>>716383070
>>TBC trees
>I didn't know this, makes things easier
If you do something other than hunter, check for changes there's a few slight worthwhile differences

>>716383468
Yeah lol!

>>716383503
lol, I figured.

>you ARE rolling on the pvp server, right? you're not some huge pussy, are you?
>c'mon, it's gonna be lit. wpvp is the heart and soul of classic. you won't wanna miss out!
>i'm rolling pvp with the rest of my friends. it's gonna have the most players afterall. i don't want to play on a dead server haha

>>716366340
How many of those people are going to be playing a month from now? Two? Three? What about five months into the future.

Splitting the community like this is such an awful idea, always is for private servers.

>>716383627
Go play pvp on turtles Tel'abim with other 60 people, retard.
People want to play the game and have not help you fullfil your high school shooter edgelord fantasy.

>>716382946
devilish

>>716383784
>People want to play the game and have not help you fullfil your high school shooter edgelord fantasy.

World of WARcraft

>>716384362
You can still do BGs when on a PVE server, dummy.

>>716383610
>you ARE rolling on the pvp server, right?
Why, yes, I am.

>>716383007
bro it's like a rite of passage at this point. you drag them through the intro zones, they smile and nod, maybe even hit lvl 20, and then suddenly they "got busy" or "just wanna relax with singleplayer stuff for a bit." every. damn. time.
i don't even get mad anymore, i just preplant the cope and enjoy the solo grind.

>>716383007
>>716384669
I've given up on trying to get friends into MMOs
I just make friends with the people I meet in the game

>>716382684
Seinfeld and Goatse lol
See you there

>>716383305
It especially sucks as a tank main because Warriors and Paladins are the worst DPS to have in your party. And I don't even mean because they steal your gear. DPS main Warriors are the ultimate niggers that will instantly charge in and attack the second you pull (or a microsecond beforehand), throw themselves to the top of the hate list, rip aggro, pull extra mobs, and fuck up the pull anytime you try to do LOS pulling. They're guaranteed to be the worst at actually doing the things a DPS is supposed to (aggro management, interruption, focus fire, etc.) and they're usually not even that good at damage.

>>716384362
Game's literally been World of Dragonkilling since day 1 lil bro

>>716386052
t. catabab

>>716386293
There's like guys fighting a dragon on the back of the original box for the game

>>716386429
there is also a demon hunter there. whats your point?

>>716386554
Do you have a functioning brain?

>>716386671
>abloobloo
concession accepted, pvesissy

>>716386779
I take that as a "no" ... kek.

>>716366287
It's a really good choice, all the fragile little retards go to the PvE server while all the Chads go to the PvP server.

>>716387302
Yeah and the ""chads""" will start crying the second they realize that everyone plays the same faction and then you basically play on a PvE server anyway

>>716377567
>a little weaker
that's a fucking understatement

>>716387741
the people that like to cry are on the pve bitch server so wont be happening
also
>Enforced faction balance (47/53 split) by locking character creation for the overly dominant faction to maintain server integrity
so double not happening

>>716377567
Nobody cares about 5 man dungeons what are you even talking about? Its not a role for role power issue but an overall capabilities one. If boomkin does ~10% less damage than a warlock why the fuck would you play warlock when druids can also tank and heal really well and even play melee DPSm

>>716382946
fucking based

>>716388073
>why the fuck would you
cos you want to, its not that serious bro

>>716388073
Because i want to a warlock running around the world doing quests with my demon minions one of which may or may not peg my anus when we settle down for the night and make camp?

>>716387862
the only people crying about muh hybrid tax bogeyman are warriors, mages, and rogues.

>>716356057
what, is Epoch trans or something? fuck off you retard

>>716312487 (OP)
Why are trannies always moderating? Guild just got shadowbanned and we didnt even post anything "bad" or breaking tos. Someone mustve seen our discord guild chat and sent it to them. What pathetic bitch

>>716388302
Rogues look like they're getting quite a bit in their favor though, Mages and Warriors though I get but fuck em they had it easy long enough.

>>716364539
>Can't handle getting Pregnant Man''d

See i know jackshit of this server, but thats just weak.

>>716388597
Tr00nism is a symptom of an extremely degenerated society. Just look at like, late Roman Empire right before it collapsed, they had trannies as well. I think it generally has to do with extreme abundance of resources, when people can just lounge around all day and don't really need to work or fight to survive, they fall into these sexual extremist behaviors.
Also notice how they are ALWAYS on pisscord. Just stop using pisscord already, it's clearly cursed.

>>716388901
Yeah but how else should i advertise to find likeminded people for some fun? Post it on here? Lmao They have their own section for this shit and it should be fucking unbiased

>>716373827
Because its funny.

>>716388302
Warriors will still be the best tanks. But pure dps classes are gonna have a bad time. Meanwhile, the entire modern WoW community LITERALLY believes a feral druid should do equal dps in raids to a rogue or mage. We're in trouble.

>>716389205
>raids
who give a shit, and if epoch let raidtrannies dictate balance might as well pack it up right now

>>716384461
It's World of warCRAFT you dumbass go tailor some skirts you fag

>no goblins
>no draenei
>no blood elves
>no worgen
>old ass client
>low res textures
>tragedy waiting to happen >>716312596
not playing

>>716389205
>the entire modern WoW community LITERALLY believes a feral druid should do equal dps in raids to a rogue or mage
Yep. That's a healthy way to balance the game.

>>716388073
>why the fuck would you play warlock
Because you like warlock.

>>716380626
Youre not safe from that in Blizz WoW either, just look at SoD while knowing the fat fuck (Aggrend) plays Paladin.

>classic wow AGAIN
>but this time with even worse balancing and tranny fanfiction quests!!
hard pass

>>716389486
You are trans and a faggot

>>716389635
They are not even top 3 though.

>>716312596
Tranny WoW is literally a RAT and keylogger

>>716312487 (OP)
Is this another server run by the Sheena and Crogge tranny? Kill yourselves

>>716389668
>tranny fanfiction quests!
>Every wow thread is tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny
>Every thread in this website is just tranny tranny tranny tranny tranny
They fucking invaded this site and it makes me so mad. Can we stop talking about mentally ill freaks for one thread?

>>716390162
>that big of a gap
How the fuck is Blizzard consistently so dogshit at balance for like 30 goddamn years?

>>716390162
>melee hunter out dpses rogue
Dohohoh what garbage.

>>716312487 (OP)
>Vanilla wow, again
>With low-quality garbage bolted on
>'member when you where 13, thin and could run all day then come home for epic dragon adventures? You'll totally feel that way again!
People who cling to FOTM knock-offs are the worst kind of necromancer. Rotten notstlgia compels you.
There are mmos that emulate a more "authentic" experience. MMO's that better ape launch wow's vibe. There are stock classic private servers, wild bullshit classic servers and three or four different flavors of Stock classic server run by blizzard.
So why are you "going home" to sit in trade and discord spamming "LFM SM" like you haven't done it over so many iterations.
What makes THIS any different to [insert "big" classic private server here]

>>716390653
It's better than classic at least. PVP was a oneshot fest though, or so I was told.
>>716390730
>Pure DPS does more damage than a hybrid (Rogues can tank in SoD)

>>716390807
I am mentally frozen in 2006 anyway. I'm 43.

>>716390162
Wow that shifted since that buff started in SE, i could have sworn it was Warrior/Paladin atop with Assbringer.

Still, Paladins throughout SoD got a hilarious amount of love to the point they implemented a Shockadin dps set for SE after a bugged weapon enabled that build to be viable AND they turned that into part of a rune, only class that got catered to like that.

>>716390839
Sad. Blizzard really never knew what to do with rogues after they made warriors and paladins and even fucking feral druids out dps them.

>>716351698
wow made wowtokens so you can buy gold officially now. you don't need third party gold sellers.

>>716391049
Paladins were basically always the strongest healers with the best raid buffs. Vanilla was gard for horde without paladins. And yea now they're also fantastic tanks and dps.

>>716391049
Meanwhile Shamans get zero legendaries

>>716390807
Are you asking why people want to play a private server? Not everyone is in the same situation, there's people who have been playing non-stop from server to server for years and will jump into this one just because it's fresh, there's people that like vanilla but want a version without useless specs, there's SoD refugees, there's people who have not played since the original classic, or since the 2019 re-release.

>>716390653
It's not really a big gap at all

>>716385985
warriors will absolutely top meters *IF* they are getting hit because they just get fed infinite rage. only a mage can compete and only on pulls with 5+ mobs because of blizzard and even then a warrior just spamming cleave/ww on cd can still beat them.
this is why warrior tank is so good (2 handed Arms tanking with sweeping strikes) and why warriors who apply to groups as DPS invariably end up tanking anyway because they're mongoloids that like you said will just instantly charge in after you and blow their load. then its just whichever warrior is better geared is going to get threat no matter what
at least warriors as a dps makes sense. paladin dps offers quite literally nothing and no, their blessing and aura means jack shit really.

>>716390472
They are part of wow now which i hate. Remove them and i wont talk about them because there will be no need to complain. Same with fags and DEI shit

>>716391298
They got to disintegrate people in pvp though.

I really want to play shadow priest because I like dots and they dont have to control a clunky pet like warlocks, but I wonder if I'll be able to find pug raids

>>716391376
>at least warriors as a dps makes sense. paladin dps offers quite literally nothing and no, their blessing and aura means jack shit really.

Sorry no
>Salv
>Might
>Tremor Totem

Warriors: uhhh

>>716391298
Shamans i seen go 100:0 against freshies in AV when they bugged out and you could get in with the Anniversary servers. No legendary can top that.

>>716312596
>launcher/installer explicitly warns you that if you don't install it on your C: drive, it may need admin privliges to launch
>this anon can not read, does not install it on his C: drive and is now making shit up because he didn't read

lol

>>716391414
It's true, my ashbringer pally gets 1shot by shamans

>>716390472
Guess who has the time/unemployment and mental illness to moderate discords and develop servers? You can't escape them in this space.

please take my pc to mine bitcoin sirs. please.

>>716391390
>They are part of wow now which i hate.
I hate it too. They have infected everything I love. I can't play a fucking game without seeing shit like "body type 1 and 2". But this thread is about an unreleased private server we know almost nothing about in regards to custom content. Can we just forget about them for a single thread?

>playing this 20yo doodoo game on a FREESHARD instead of making money
ngmi

>>716391480
lmao
bro leveling dungeons do not require salv. might = bshout and even though they don't stack the AP from might is insignificant. leveling dungeons barely even require interrupts, only some nasty stuff pops up in ubrs/some mana burns in scholo/strath
i bring warrior dps when i don't need gear from the dungeon or i'm after something specific that they don't need and the dungeon will get done faster. they're tanky enough that we can pull extra, tank a small pack while i tank another and just shred them down because warr dps is insane. it stresses the healer out but who cares lmao

>>716391480
>Warriors: uhhh
Sunder armor, shouts, thunderclap and can interrupt. They have some utility skills.

>>716390807
>seething about vanilla wow, again
still mogs every mmo 20 years later

I never played WoW before, I only fucked around in the free trial back then during WotLK when you could play for free until your reached level 15 or so.
I won't be looking up any guides and I will be going in basically blind with this undead priest. I hope to see one of you guys around.

>>716391376
Bruh this isn't vanilla. It's running on a 3.3.5 client with TBC talents and custom gear and balancing.
There's too many variables to decide what's going to be good and bad this early.

>>716390807
>There are mmos that emulate a more "authentic" experience
>MMO's that better ape launch wow's vibe
Name 3.

>>716391726
he's fucking clueless. he might not have even played vanilla
to be fair though, a lot of dps warriors i've grouped with will magically forget that those utility things exist. just like a paladin will forget to refresh his fucking blessings or hasn't trained his rez spell lel. but at least warriors actually do damage compared to paladins

>>716391542
>Guess who has the time/unemployment and mental illness to moderate discords and develop servers?
Do you seriously believe every single "unpaid" project is made exclusively by troons?

>>716391752
right, so you're speculating

>>716391759
ESO

>>716391735
>basically blind
Heh.

What does this game change and add

>>716391982
lots of things

>>716391339
I am asking why people want to play this one. When there is every possible permutation of classic-like servers out there already.
Dig hard enough and I'm sure you could find "classic but with a few more hand-written quests/dungeons/raids we lifted from ascension"
Why do people get excited for every new slab of nostalgia bait like THIS TIME it'll magically unmake the last 20 years?

>>716391821
Not exclusively, but I find it hard to find one that doesn't have at least a few on their staff.

>>716316475
>>716363905
Seethe about it, pvpnigger

>>716391735
geh mal lieber arbeiten

What's a wotlk private server I can use to set up my addons?

>>716392254
Chromiecraft

>another "vanilla+" rat trojan tranny keylogger client with a cash shop and AI generated quests and items

Very original. You will never get something like Nostalrius back.

>>716392214
Mach ich gerade (Habe home office). Du hast bestimmt Sommerferien, ne kleiner Kevin? lol

>>716392374
>You will never get something like Nostalrius back.
true. no one wants to play stock vanilla for the 50th time

>>716392069
>things I don't understand, but still have an opinion on

>>716392069
>Why do people get excited for every new slab of nostalgia bait like THIS TIME it'll magically unmake the last 20 years?
I think you are projecting a little. And also you are a little bit dumb.
Most people don't play wow constantly on EVERY SINGLE SERVER. They just get the itch every once in a while then look into what's on offer. And fresh MMO releases are always fun so Epoch is a good option.
I can't speak for other people, but I can tell you my reasons:
I played vanilla on and off when it came out originally and I liked it, but stopped during Cata. Then I played the 2019 re-release but eventually stopped before WOTLK to play some other stuff. Then I played SoD a little which I enjoyed, but now it's basically dead. So now I get the itch again because I love classic wow and coincidentally a new server is about to come out which promises classic but with balance changes to make every spec viable (fixing the worst part of classic), it's fresh, and it's on the 3.3.5 client. So I'll join, enjoy it for as long as I can then play something else when I get bored. It's not that serious anon.

>>716392193
>PvEtard can't even read
bur

>>716391735
have fun and good luck.
unironically, to be safe

>>716392405
Ich hartze natürlich. Danke fürs durchfüttern, wagie

>>716391735
What drives a man to pick a priest as their first class?

>>716362524
Wont Blizzard kill them instantly then?

>>716392069
Vanilla with TBC classes is genuinely all I ever wanted, everything else is just a bonus.

what do people want out of a classic+? wouldn't it all eventually end up the way previou classic servers have gone, regardless of there being a couple new zones, a dungeon and a raid? fun to level up but once you hit endgame it's just raidlogging? vanilla will never EVER be retooled into a proper evergreen sandbox like OSRS, so why even hope for it?

Can I just tame beasts that look cool to me as a Hunter or do I have to metafag to do anything?

>>716368573
Leveling in WoW with my buddies is great.
FF14 has the worst fucking """"""""""coop"""""""""" experience in history of MMOs.

>>716392649
Ich bin beim Staat angestellt, also zahlt mir der Staat 6 mal so viel wie dir.
Kek.

>>716392752
Sure, but if it uses vanilla/tbc's pet system you will have to stable your main pet to tame and learn new and stronger skills from other beasts as you level up.

>>716392478
So a open source purely community-funded project that didn't have a cash shop and delivered the same quality as Blizzard that it spawned Classic?

>>716392658
shadow priest just sounds epic.
>>716392580
be safe?

>>716390162
>melee hunter top 3 melee dps

>>716392732
>so why even hope for it?
Why not? A classic re-release was also a never-ever at some point. It's not like hoping takes time, effort or resources. It's okay if it never happens, but I'll try it if it does.

>>716392901
Nostalrius was open-source? Chromiecraft is basically that, it exists for the sole purpose of making stock opensource WotLK servers better.

>Rogues can now use axes
Brownies will seethe.

>racial swap
>every single class can wait in stealth thanks to shadowmeld
yeah, not rolling pvp

>>716312487 (OP)
I have classic+ fatigue

Are there any changes to pets? I want to roll with my snibeti snab scorpid boy.

>>716392897
Pets work like they did in WotLK.
>>716369026
>zones
Dude, the zones in FFXIV suck, they are glorified loading screens. There's only fates (garbage mindless zerging where the zone is irrelevant), hunts (garbage mindless zerging where the zone is irrelevant) or world bosses the zones outside of cities might as well not exists. At least in wow you interact with the world as you level. Some exploratory content is nice though, I liked Eureka. But FFXIV is an MMO in name only.
>better classes
Classes have no flavor in FFXIV, in part thanks to how irrelevant the open world is. Some can be fun to play while juggling mechanics in boss encounters, I love RDM for example, but outside of that they might as well all be the same, because there is nothing in FFXIV outside of bosses.
>leveling experience
You can not tell me you prefer roulette spamming to wow's leveling.

FFXIV is great when the story is good enough to mask it's flaws. After Dawntrail I lost all motivation to play.

>>716362160
STOP POSTING PREGNANT MEN RIGHT NOWWW

>>716393447
Scorpids are considered excellent pvp pets for wasting poison cleanses meant for viper sting

>>716389205
>Meanwhile, the entire modern WoW community LITERALLY believes a feral druid should do equal dps in raids to a rogue or mage
Yea they should, what's the problem?
>muh pvp
Lmao eat shit

>>716393447
I wanted to play druid but now I'm getting the urge to level a hunter.

>>716390162
>melee hunter
>survival hunter
???

>>716393632
Even outside of PvP a feral brings so much more utility than a rogue to begin with, buffs, innervate, battle rez, off-tank in a pinch. You can do it that way but you'd need to give the "pure" classes more things to bring to the table too.

>>716393698
Surv could be ranged or melee, it depended on the runes.

>started on Warmane a month ago
>a new, fresh server comes out
>realize I'm pre-wow-burnout again

>>716389205
>feral druid should do equal dps
Yes if you're spec'd to do damage, do damage

>>716312596
>>716350283
>game requires elevated privileges to launch
it doesnt
>application binaries have changed and are now unsigned
because it is a modded client that is adding new content, cant be done otherwise
>all that should happen in reality is you point an old client to a different server
yes if the server was just a regular 3.3.5 server, which this isnt
>uses an RCE to access anything on your machine
it doesnt
>hosting an MMO for "free"
its free with cosmetic skin shop

>>716312596
that's how mods work in all games
you can get malware from downloading a minecraft mod

>>716392842
>er hat während Corono keine mio gemacht
ngmi

>>716394054
oke Kevin. Mach mal deine Hausaufgaben.

This is on the wrath client? Does that mean there's dungeon finder?

>Be paladin
>Can tank
>Can heal
>Can dps
Why would I pick other shit class?

>>716394214
It is, and it doesn't.

>>716394265
Because you don't like Paladin?

>>716394265
>Be druid
>Can tank
>Can heal
>Can dps
>Has a rotation that doesn't put me to sleep
Why would I ever play a paladin?

>>716394214
Yes, no; install LFG to filter

>>716394265
>multiplayer game
>want to do everything on your own

>>716393764
Lockpicking

>>716388597
FAFO

>>716391914
It doesn't fit in either of those categories, at least fucking try.

FUCK i can't decide which class to pick, or which server to choose

>Browsing through pochie discord
>See this post
Why are classic wow players so retarded?

am i going to have to join a fucking discord to play with people on this server
im so tired of joining discords

>>716394382
That's right, it is peak comfy to share world with others but everyone minding their own business outside of chat and occasional emergent grouping or dungeon here and there.

>>716394695
you will join da discord and validate with your phone

>>716394672
>rogue player
Of course, I guarantee that this guy has not had a job for at least 5 years, if ever

Horde or Alliance?

>>716392069
I very rarely get excited at my age. Let me have this one man. I'm more excited for Epoch than I was for my 4th child to be born. Let me have this...

What was that one, the biggest pserver at the time, that got shut down by blizzard because it's owner was using donatiin money to buy an indoors gym and go to disney world?

>>716394849
im always alliance so this time im gonna horde prolly a cow

>>716394924
Nostalrius was the biggest server and got shut down by blizzard
Elysium was the server where the owner (currently Turtle WoW's owner) was stealing dono money. It got shut down by the owners and relaunched as Lights Hope

>>716378497
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/epoch
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/pronunciation/english/epic
Sorry, you are retarded, anon. The pronunciation is eee-pock to brits and eh-pawk to americans. Epic is pronounced Eh-pick in british and ehPick in american. Brits did invent English and ruled over the majority of the world for awhile, so it's safe to say they have mastery over their own language. Americanized English even agrees with me that if you can't distinguish between the two words, you should probably be deported. Go play on Gurubashi, it's probably more your speed.

is there buff / debuff cap in this version? i like resto druid but in classic you could never actually use any spells other than healing touch

>>716393669
I'm not familiar with hunter in wotlk, does that mean you don't need to catch a pet to learn it's skill and then give it to your main pet anymore?

>>716395261
unlimited

I am going prot paladin and i am only inviting cloth/leather fags.
i barely remember the routes of the og version of the dungeons but somehow it will work out

>>716395423
fucking awesome i can finally play a resto druid in classic and not feel like a holy paladin

>>716395321
I guess not, I wonder what they mean by
>Pets in general have been reverted to their Burning Crusade state, just like the classes themselves
since they then describe the WotLK pet system, down to the crab's unique skill.

>>716395459
the overgrowth talent seems mad useful too

>>716395578
i saw that and you get an actual rez spell, resto druid is going to be so fucking fun holy shit

>>716395426
based

>>716395503
https://www.wowhead.com/wotlk/pet-talent-calc I found this so I am playing around with it, if you can have charge on any tenacity pet that changes things quite a bit.

>>716394695
>am i going to have to join a fucking discord
No, why would you? Just invite them to your party in game.

>>716395578
Do you know if Rejuv's from other druids stack? In Classic you can only have 1 Rejuv even if you have 3 druids and it's so annoying

>>716395887
They do.

>>716395625
Tree form is lame.

>>716395950
That's nice, I might actually level as resto druid if my friend group needs a healer. Omen of clarity being in resto + the healing touch cast time talent increasing melee damage is super nice

>>716396019
going to be fun getting yelled at by people for meleeing as resto druid in dungeons for omen procs
im excited

>>716396019
I always rush omen while leveling a druid on twow. people think
>ooh man I need to get that feline swiftness
they don't understand that omen makes it so you have so little downtime you make up for the travel time loss easily
plus you get travel form at 30 so it's not that long of a setback
shame omen on epoch doesn't proc from spellcasts

>>716396116
Yeah, omen on turtle is busted. I'm not sure how it's changed from Classic, but it procs all the fucking time in cat and bear form

>>716396061
If I see a druid HoT the tank then go cat form to help DPS while there's nothing to heal I'm adding him to friends STAT

is fury prot still going to be the only viable tank

>>716396227
no

>>716396227
yes

I think my biggest problem is still professions. I was spoiled on a server I play on where you're able to train every profession on one character. You always feel locked into Alchemy otherwise you're broke and can never do anything but farm for consumables
I hate that you don't ever really have a choice on picking professions as there is always an optimal set

>>716395993
>Can't cast Healing Touch in tree form
Either Druid is going to be full on hot spammer, or tree form is something you shift in and out of. I think it's potentially cool, though I'm not excited by it

How good is tailoring for a resto druid?

>>716396462
>tree form is something you shift in and out of
At 28% of your mana cost, I doubt it. You will probably just have different assignments on fights as a druid where one may be a HT spammer and one may cover more raid heals with hots or something so you use tree form accordingly

>>716396519
Rdruid doesn't need to selfcraft anything from any professions so it doesn't matter. You can do whatever you want

>>716396371
>5% health buff on mining
really not looking forward to this being a raid requirement profession for every top end guild

>>716396519
Nobody knows the patterns
You get to enchant your rings with spellpower, not healing power as far as I know. But I'm guessing tailoring will have caster DPS stuff and LW will get the druid-oriented patterns. You could always gamble but I wouldn't

>>716396549
>>716396462
>>716396221
Stacking HoTs will be OP and require nerfs to druids.

>>716396597
>doesn't need to selfcraft anything from any professions
Aren't there custom recipes for this server though? Do you have a complete list or are you just guessing?

>>716396638
>giving a shit about top end poopsockers in the first place

>>716396698
Disregard what I said, apparently they're fucking retarded and they're adding profession stat bonuses so idk

>>716396693
seems pretty overkill to stack them that hard to be quite honest with you, especially when 1 is often plenty to top off a DPS

>>716396638
>25% increased effect of elixirs and flasks
>ring enchants
ngmi if you're not alchemist/enchanter

>>716396764
Yeah unless you want your own consumables, tailoring / enchanting may still be the best options for all casters

>>716396842
the 25% increase on a SP flask ends up being about the same as an enchant in terms of spellpower. Tailor Ench will give me 32 SP from those while iirc the bonus on your flask would be 18 SP, so it's 2 SP more than an individual enchant and double flask duration which is also really fucking nice
but I'm gonna gamble on the BoP patterns making a big difference
if all else fails I'll just change profs eventually

>>716396116
>hey don't understand that omen makes it so you have so little downtime you make up for the travel time loss easily
It does not make up for it at all. What down time do you have as cat? You kill shit, pop out for a heal when needed then change to cat again. By the time you have to heal again your mana has regenerated.
Wow is 60% walking around, feral swiftness is huge.

you'll find me on pvp in the mountain kings honor

It's time to pvp and chew bubblegum