when did you realize Twilight Princess was pound for pound the best Zelda game? I feel like ToTK woke a lot of people up to this…

>>716319132 (OP)
TP is basically the only one I haven’t played yet
Ask me again when it goes on the GameCube emulator on my Switch 2

>>716319132 (OP)
>only game to really delve into sword combat
>doesn't give you a twohander
Imagine how glorious it would have been to pull off all those moves with Biggoron's Sword

>>716319132 (OP)
never, not on release, not when it got remastered for Wii u either. shit is fugly and boring

>>716320124
dude just emulate it
>>716320515
ughhhhhh that would've been perfect. I do love all the callbacks to OOT tho like I just discovered that the fishing hole girl will scratch her back like the merchant if you talk to her about his photo she has there.

>>716319132 (OP)
>pound for pound
pounding what?

>>716319132 (OP)
It's certainly the most overrated old Zelda game, but best? I don't think so

>>716319132 (OP)
>I feel like ToTK woke a lot of people up to this…
I don't know where did you get this impression, but I can assure you it's wrong.

>>716322062
overrated? I'd say its pretty hated on here.

>>716320124
You'll be playing it with 112ms input lag like Wind Waker in that case. I can't imagine how sluggish that would make TP feel.

>>716324408
play tphd

>>716319132 (OP)
I know zelda games are not best known for their difficulty, but this one in particular is extra piss easy, that alone makes it not the best one for me, too bad because it is top notch in pretty much everything else

>>716319132 (OP)
Midna is short of the only good thing about TP.
The handholdy railroading is somehow even more severe in TP than in fucking SS. And even when you finally somehow get to actually explore, you quickly learn that the content distribution on the overworld is genuinely fucking terrible with huge swathes of the map being literally void of content outside of some pity rupees at best, or literally fucking nothing at all at worst. We're talking actually, actually nothing and not just the kind of "nothing" people saying in regards of BotW's actual content filled map.
Not to mention how the game, in spite of hinting at and referencing ALttP throughout the entire game, fucks up the world transition element of the game so fucking royally that TP's Dark World is genuinely and literally fucking empty outside of the select few spots needed to progress the story.
What's more. TP is full of invisible walls and shit to an embarrassing degree that none of the other 3D Zeldas are guilty of.

Not even the dungeons stand out. TP fans keep citing how amazing the dungeons are but they're ok at best. SS is not a good Zelda game but its dungeons are far better. And OoT's, MM's, and WW's dungeons are all better too.

Midna is genuinely the best companion character of the franchise by far. She is excellent. But she doesn't stop the game from being in the running alongside SS for worst Zelda game. And after I replayed both SS and TP with the launch of the TPHD release I've been inclined lean towards TP being the worse entry of the two.

It's got a cool aesthetic but it blows as a game.

pound for pound best zelda game is oot. tp has a lot of slack parts so it cant be best if you go pound for pound

>>716321727
I don't care for sassy imp bitch
there I said it

>>716328353
It actually can because it weighs a lot more and therefore has more to it per pound per se.

>>716319132 (OP)
Nah it sucked.

>>716319132 (OP)
I knew that when I played it for the first time

>>716328983
Based

idk i still think OOT's final encounter is the best zelda set piece ever.

the destroyed castle and dark stormy night while fighting ganon's silhouette was 10/10

>>716328108
/v/ can't make up its mind if it likes zelda games being open or closed. Half the board hates the design the other half likes.

>>716319132 (OP)
The dungeons are the best thing about it, everything else is unironically a fucking slog to get through. If you made a Zelda game with BotW's exploration and TP's dungeons it would be really fucking good.

>>716330261
Counterpoint: the escape from the castle sequence at the start of LttP.

>>716319132 (OP)
>when did you realize Twilight Princess was pound for pound the best Zelda game?
When it came out and I played it during christmas on my Wii. Most kino Zelda ever made.

>>716319132 (OP)
>pound for pound
this means literally nothing in the context you used it in

>>716331283
I don't like how linear they are. TPs dungeons don't have that LttP factor of feeling like you're actually exploring the dungeon. They're all dead ends except for the one critical path.

>>716331304
You serious?

When I played it in 2009

>>716331426
There hasn't been a single dungeon in 3D Zelda that feels like ALttP's. Those dungeons were about really exploring every nook and cranny and finding that one fucking key you needed was in a random pot all along. Ocarina of Time's dungeons came the closest because some solutions required exploring rooms and revisiting floors you've been to.

>>716319132 (OP)
I don't think its the best overall, but its an amazing game. Easily the best 3D Zelda post n64. Best Link design we've ever gotten too.

>>716331504
Unironically so, yes. Leading zelda to safety at the start in the dark with few tools is cool and iconic to me.

>>716331636
>ALttP's. Those dungeons were about really exploring every nook and cranny
>nook and cranny
Bro the game gives you a bird's eye view of everything, hard to miss that random pot while "exploring"

>>716331763
Then post a screenshot of the actual game and not an embellished illustration.

>>716331842
The first time I played the swamp dungeon I got lost because I somehow missed the key in the pot.

>>716331956
The illustration is closer to my childhood memories so no.

>>716332001
Which one was the swamp dungeon?

>>716332117
misery mire

>>716319132 (OP)
I hate it. It's slow and up its own ass with the over the top cutscenes. It's the Zelda that started the hazy washed out look. Even the music is hazy in this game. It gives me headaches.

>>716319132 (OP)
when i played it on gamecube and backflipped off epona for the first time.

>>716319132 (OP)
Great dungeons but it has the worst overworld of the 3D Zeldas.

Painfully long tutorial and the mandatory wolf segments are boring AF.

>>716319132 (OP)
i love it, it was my second zelda game and to this day is the best one for me

>>716332117
2nd dungeon in the Dark World

>>716328108
>in spite of hinting at and referencing ALttP throughout the entire game
You meant Ocarina of Time here, right?
>TP's Dark World
It doesn't have one really, Hyrule being covered in twilight is practically just an altered state that's one time only and is really just padding with the wolf form while the actual twilight realm is basically treated as a dungeon.

>zelda botw open world
>dungeon like twilling princes
>shines that use item from the dungeons or combination of some of them
>side quest+ exploration rewards like ys 8 or xenoblade x
>Actual story that is happening in the present

there you go, best zelda ever

>>716332760
BotW exploration sucked ass and even WW mogs it

>>716331504
i agree with him

I think it's pretty soulful and was overhated.

>>716319132 (OP)
I remember it fondly but I've only beaten it twice. Not sure I agree it's the best one.
I remember my issue with the game was that almost every boss looked really cool but the bosses would just stand there and let you kill them. The only boss that really tried to kill you was the psycho twilight guy

>>716333061
>bosses would just stand there and let you kill them
Inaccurate thing to say when mostly they're invulnerable until you do the associated puzzle thing to make them vulnerable lol

>>716333057
Same *sigh

>>716332834
I’m sorry but no