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Indie devs and journos don't get why people liked that viral AI video.
Mind you, neither do the people who liked it.
>>716346682 (OP)They all look like shit though.
>>716346682 (OP)The people who like it don't want games. They want to jerk off over the future of AI.
>>716346682 (OP)People who liked the AI slop won't buy any of those games. Guaranteed.
Still free publicity is free publicity.
>>716346949Literally this
>>716346682 (OP)Already boughted Fight Knight on release
>>716346682 (OP)whats that top left one looks cool
also I'm pretty sure that video wouldn't actually work as a real game, because in order for the effect to work your camera needs to be locked into a specific direction so your game would have to just be a series of straight line corridoors
>>716347301Wizordum. Don't expect much.
it was the sense of scale from the topography, all those are flat terrain
people are so retarded its mind boggling that i even have to type it out
>>716347525was already on my wishlist
heh
>>716346682 (OP)They all looked like shit and these devs have no idea why people liked the ai video in the first place.
The gif that made millions seethe in impotent rage.
No, Daggerfall does not look like this, get your eyes checked.
>>716347953a game like this is beyond any indie dev
>>716347953Just reinstall Elden RIng and call it a day.
>>71634795310/10 would pay $80 for it.
>>716348027It's even beyond big money studios. We simply don't have the tech to pull off something that looks like this in an open world where you can look in every direction and not just one.
>>716347953Looks exactly like Daggerfall
>>716347953looks like something you'd see in a kickstarter scam that never comes out after they get 3m in donations.
>>716348136You might have eye cancer, it's important you contact a medical authority, and fast.
>>716346682 (OP)you just know these faggot trying to capitalize on this will just half ass it and most won't even finish the game
>>716347953it's just pixel graphics with a pixel skybox
this is what it would look like in gameplay
https://youtu.be/IG4SCw1CFP0?list=PLXBVjp8y90nFPUYEYmUUeI15CHnpiQXqe
the video you posted the "player" literally doesn't turn their camera because that would break the effect
>>716347953Sega Rally (I think it was SR2) did something similar. It had a 2D background that turned 3D as you advanced.
>>716348215Or maybe you're just blind ayynone
>>716348225all of those games shown in the pictures are already out.
>>716347953People looked at this and thought it was a real game? Normalfags are fucking retarded.
>>716348125what make you think that? would need a shit load of hand painted textures
>>716347953i mean if a game could capture that aesthetic and style, it would be fucking cool.
no wonder it makes the indie retards and their glorified doom wads seethe.
>>716347953Arthurian Legends does.
>>716346682 (OP)Fight Knight on the bottom right was ok. It was kinda too tough.
I did enjoy Cultic for what it's worth
>>716346682 (OP)What viral AI video?
>>716348314No one thought it was a real game. The global reaction was "damn, I wish someone made a game that look exactly like this".
>>716346809This.
I already said it in another thread, turn the FOV as low as possible and you get that effect.
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>>716346682 (OP)>top left>https://www.poewiki.net/wiki/Bladed_Macenice original art
>>716346682 (OP)What's the game in the top right corner?
>>7163485871) No you don't.
2) You don't know what a FOV is. Stop using words you don't understand.
>>716348504did part 2 ever come out?
>>716346682 (OP)>Mind you, neither do the people who liked it.I liked that it was the pixel version of old fantasy artwork. It looks both flat and 3D.
I feel like the only way you're achieving that though is if you made it like a dungeon crawler so you're only moving forward, backwards, left, and right, and can only face cardinal directions. That way you could achieve that flat look without having to worry about shit being seen from the wrong angle.
I would love to play a dungeon crawler like that, but the average person gushing over this would be upset they didn't get an open world Elder Scrolls style game.
>>716348125bro..
https://s-macke.github.io/VoxelSpace/VoxelSpace.html
>>716348427>INDIE DEVS COULD NEVERneither can the AI you retard
>>716348649Yes you do, retard. Go play GTAV or Postal 4 in first person and walk. Everything is crunched up forward so things in the distance look far away and things close up have massive scale.
>>716348736art imitates life
life imitates art
>>716348609Your mace has definite points at the top.
Theirs is rounded.
Maces just look like that, man.
>>716348736i didnt say it could...are you okay? do we need to call someone for you?
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>>716347953Meh. I'd rather play Fight Knight
>>716348629Eclipsium. Reeks of Unity project.
The first one, Wizordum looks almost spot-on. Shame it isn't on mobile cause my PC is dogwater right now.
Cultist and Forgive me Father 2 are also pretty close though they have a different aesthetic.
>>716347953it's no wonder luddites have such a hard time discerning AI art since they can't tell the difference between this and your average retro style game
>>716348950>i didnt say it couldYeah because ai could never lmao
>>716348697Etrian Odyssey?
>>716347059Based bird hypnosis bro.
>>716349040>CultistCultic*
>>716349127ai cant do art properly on a large enough scale, it could probably do the programming. programming is literally best use-case for AI.
>>716349040its just a Catacombs 3d Clone, its barely more complex than Catacombs 3d in terms of combat.
>>716349346>programming is literally best use-case for AI.It really isn't.
>Game fucks up because of major bug>Ummm how do we fix it??>I dunno, I don't know how to program and the AI says our code is fine!
>>716347953I'm gonna be honest that does look pretty cool, but also like the actual world ends where the first house is and it's just a flat painting with a path in front of it.
>>716347953Reminds me of network q rac rally (ms-dos 1993).
>>716347953More importantly it plays like Daggerfall
You could create a visual mod that makes Daggerfall look like that and no one would play it
>>716348573They would never play it, they just want to jerk off over the "zomg retro graffix"
>>716348353>>716348125it wouldn't. i have actually thought about making a game like this.
you would need to make some sacrifices of course.
no open world map means you don't need to view every point of interest from every angle
instead you have an FTL style flowchart map, but instead of visualizing it like picrel, you visualize it within the backdrop of the environment
you can layer several sprites for different points of interest on top of eachother naturally because of the way hills work
In classic autism dev style,literally nobody understands WHY the AI video is appealing.
It's not because of the low res retro graphics.
It's not because it looks like a medieval western fantasy fps.
It's not because it's got a big castle.
It's because it looks big. There aren't obvious boundaries. That castle in the distance? Maybe you can go there. Those houses might be fully modeled inside. What's behind? A deep, dark forest? It all invokes a sense of mystery and the allure of discovery.
It's not fucking rocket science. Bethesda figured this about hour 20 years ago. But it takes real effort to create expansive worlds full of little things to discover, and devs today can't hack it. I can look at those indie games and guess pretty quickly exactly what existing game they're emulating. 3 of them just look like doom clones. That invokes nothing in me but the desire to roll my eyes.
>>716347953I can make this if I try but I won't
>>716349480i wasnt asking, i was telling. this is not a discussion.
>>716349480AI isn't a tool to help amateurs write professional code
it's a tool to help profesionals write amateur code very quickly
People liked the AI video because people are retarded. You don't need to go any further than than.
>>716349951If that was the case, people would just recommend Elden Ring. I thing it's the framing, which is an alien concept giving the open 3D nature vidya. I think the closest thing a 3D game can get to it is one with a restricted camera, like racing games. Probably some racing arcades from late 90s are the closest thing to that vibe, giving how much care they poured in the scenary.
>>716346682 (OP)>they all look worseAI won
>>716346682 (OP)>Skyrim but pixel>bioshock but pixel>duke nukem but pixel, again>Idk anymorerevolutionary
>>716349951yeah people are way too hung up on art style, as if that is the the key here.
really, its managing to capture that "liurnia of the lakes reveal" feeling. its a meme now, but that "see that mountain?" vibe.
>>716350715that's not AI it's real
>>716347861cool, why this thread tho?
>>716349951>In classic autist style, autist says stupid shit missing the pointthat 5s clip looks a billion times better than anything bethesda has ever done
>>716347953That's it? THAT'S the viral video?
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>>716350620The best thing about this "viral phenomenon" is that the jeet didn't make any money from it.
>>716346682 (OP)oh hey fight knight
buy and play fight knight
it's a good game!
>>716346682 (OP)Whatd top right?
>>716350960That's not an achievement.
>>716351006>sh*twhat a pussy
haven't played the top left one but fight knight is the most unique of the 4.
i'm honestly not even sure why it's being mentioned alongside a bunch of games that just look like they play like hexen.
>>716346682 (OP)Yeah, with a fair few of the ones they list in their article it becomes apparent very quickly that the game they're showing is just another regurgitation of old Doom/Heretic, the AI video doesn't have that issue, it's open ended enough that it keeps speaking to the imagination of what could be.
>>716347953The reason people are talking about Daggerfall is this is just billboards and a big fancy skybox. It would be pretty easy to make something this nice looking from this specific angle with slightly higher res Daggerfall tech. But the castle isnโt part of the โlevel.โ Honestly itโs mostly the skybox doing the work here. Halo is another example of a game series that got a ton of โwowโ factor out of simple having elaborate skyboxes.
>>716351161So people are just filling in the blanks and seeing what they want to see and not what's there?
>>716351224if its that easy...why doesnt everybody do it?
if ALL you have to do is elaborate skybox, wouldnt you move heaven and earth to do it?
I don't like AIshit but it's not about it being pixel shit, it is about the "feeling of a grand adventure" ahead of you.
It is why people liked seeing the Erdtree far away in Elden Ring. It gave the impression of a massive world, it was a sight to behold.
>>716346682 (OP)People like it because of the absolutely ridiculously huge spooky castle that is grossly disproportionate to the village houses that are closer to the viewer. There's also the pixel houses along the road that get closer but look like they popped out of the distant background. The overall effect is this static, painterly background that unravels and becomes the interactive game world as one moves closer to it It's kind of mesmerizing but it seems like it would be hard to pull off in a true 3D free roam environment where there would be so many more directions to look in. Those who focus on the 1st person perspective with the pixelated hands moving up and down are missing the point
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>>716351265Pretty much, it activates adventurous mind, much like that trope in concept art of the "adventurer purveying an untamed land"
>>716350620>Asian menNo gook as ever made a game like that, its mostly gay linear JRPG shit
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>>716351319I'm struggling to think in any other dev which does skyboxes as good as Bungie.
>>716351453This just looks like slop. It doesn't activate anything.
>>716348609>someone adds a flanged mace to their game>no one else can add flanged maces to their games for the rest of eternityYou're a fucking idiot, bud
>>716351319Because people donโt pay $60 for six seconds of walking forward. Just play Elden Ring and get a fully 3d world that does vistas like this.
>>716351803elden ring sucks ass and looks ass
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>>716351895elden ring IS ass but from is very good at giving the player that sense of scale that they want in an adventure game.
i cant think of any pixel/voxel/whetever the fuck game that has captured that vibe.
>>716351764Well yeah, I just grabbed something off of search real quick that illustrates that particular trope. It's so common in concept art that a couple of AI models I've used will relentlessly try to ape it when you ask for a landscape even when you don't mention a character at all, probably since it makes up a good chunk of their training data for landscape art.
>>716349040also chek kout The Quest, Might and Magic inspired rpg.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/428880/The_Quest/
and Arthurian Legends: meele Witchaven/Hexen inspired
https://store.steampowered.com/app/658890/Arthurian_Legends/
>>716348125But the video only looks in one direction
>>716349480AI would never say the code is fine. It will always make some random change and say it fixed it
>>716352173>unityThere's your problem
Why not just play old games like Lands of Lore 2 or Albion.
>>716346682 (OP)Only one that actually looks good is Call of Saregnar, and I've already been following that for a while.
>>716352534because they look like shit
>>716352237Those also look great. The quest is on mobile so that's nice for me.
>>716349036https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn_IvCLU2AA
They're running it through such aggressive filters that it looks like complete visual vomit.
>>716352534>Why not just play gamesI don't want to play games, I want to circlejerk about AI.
>>716347953>โViralโSeems like itโs some cope by an AI bro who wants to sell his useless services
This thread is proof that people don't care about gameplay, they just like aesthetics and when things look pretty.
Which vindicates gacha games btw.
>>716347953It could be done but you'd need to make multiple angles of hundreds of close, medium, and long distance sprites and no artist would ever put in that much work.
>>716350669>If that was the case, people would just recommend Elden RingPretty sure the idea is that in the video it's an actual town and castle with quests and not a bunch of vaguely mad NPC zombies that attack on sight.
>>716347953>>716347953AI rocks. Kill all leftists
AI is literally jut a mock-up generator.
Like pick related but whit no soul.
Ai generated games will never be as good as handcrafted stuff.
>>716347730Why is this post ignored?
>>716347953This looks great. No wonder these losers are upset.
>>716353040your post was ignored because it's retarded
>>716353036Trannies make handcrafted games
>>716353164Trannies make AI "art"
>>716348609kek, nice find, it's literally the same shape and form
>>716352741Classic. And probably would look better without any filter going on.
>>716353164And Pajets make AI games.
>>716347953this looks cool
>>716348707pretty neat, thanks
>>716347953I think the only way to create a game like this is to create a fully 3D map and then use some kind of AI pixel filter that renders every frame as a pixel art game
>>716351319>if ALL you have to do is elaborate skyboxBecause that's all you have to do for gif of walking in a straight line or a couple seconds, not making a whole fucking game. What happens when the character turns? What happens when you walk past the first house and you're just rubbing up against a giant painting of a landscape with a caste?
>>716346682 (OP)Cultic (bottom left) was awesome, best shooter I've played in awhile. Can't wait for part 2.
>>716350365My bad.
>>716350462Screen capping this. Made me fucking laugh.
>>716352340True.
>>716346682 (OP)>OHMERGUD LOOK AT THIS AI GENERATED VIDEO>actually, we can pretty easily make games that look like that without burning down a forest and with a human element. >UUUUUGHHHHHHHHHH YOU JUST DON GEDDIT! ITS THIS ONE EFFECT>are you retarded? its impossible to make an actual game with that effect>UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH STUPID INDIE DEV YOU DONT GET ITwhy are AI shills like this?
>>716347525It looks good but, itโs just a doom mod
Itโs going to play just like doom
>>716352895It just makes me think devs should be paying attention to setting up impressive skyboxes more.
>>716353201Trannies hate AI art more than any other group
trannies always do the thing you don't like no matter which side of the fence you're on.
>>716347953The gif has succeeded because of the following:
>a) it harkens back to the grandeur of classic fantasy adventures>b) it's simple pixelated / painterly style offer a refreshing simplicity compared to modern graphics>c) the vertical aspect ratio gives the scene a novel sense of vertical scaleI think this gif proves that gamers are craving a return to 4:3 aspect ratio retro 3D fantasy rpg games.
>>716353164trannies also drink water, anon.
should you stop drinking water?
>>716347953are zoomers really impressed by this? of course not
this is a "viral" jeet thread for DUMB STUPID NIGGERS
>>716346682 (OP)Cultic is one of the best FPS games I've ever played
Easily the best out of all of these retro FPS games we see now
>>716349346If you think AI can't do art properly on a large enough scale, what makes you think AI can manage hundreds of interacting components, proficiently enough to fix reported bugs no less?
>>716347953It has no UI telling you exactly where to go and what to do, which suggests you actually have to explore and interact the world to progress, not just mindlessly follow instructions.
>>716347953how was this generated anyway?
>>716347953no game is gonna look like this because the perspective is impossible
the castle door looks the same size as a house near the player but it's like 100 miles away so you would look like an ant next to the castle door
and also there is no road towards the castle just rock
Why dont games have proper sense of scale?
No elden shit doesn't not have it and I will knock your teeth out if you mention it. Its incredibly cramped and soulless
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>>716348940>>716351770blind niggers
>>716353217at least one of you had eyes
>>716354626Not the first time I read a thing like that. It has to be 5 layers of irony or just blatant trolling.
>>716349346Maybe not now, but in a few years it will make an entire game. The pace AI is progressing is exponential.
>>716352402actually the problem is that daggerfall looks nothing like that AI sloppa
>>716354693cause you've played too many video games that your what impresses you these days are sorta fucked, i dont really know what can compare to what we went through.
If something is fun, why should I care who or what made it? Can anyone answer this without trying to project their image of what they believe i am onto me, resorting to adhom, or just deflecting? Im not saying ai games are fun right now, but if I were to find one and had fun with it, why is that immoral?
>>716354819>exponential>already ground to a snails pace
>>716354712Damn bro, I wonder if GGG will sue all those 15th century blacksmiths for copyright infringement, can't believe they stole the idea of a flanged mace
>>716346682 (OP)What AI viral video?
>>716354693your average normie NPC will lose interest if a game doesn't have the next point of interest within view anywhere they go in the game
>>716354892Holy esl nigger
>>716354973they literally took the poe render, rotated it a couple degrees and slapped some pixelshit filter on it
>>716355021you're in a ai thread, what are you expecting
Only the bottom right one looks decent. But I'd have to see more. The rest look like garbage shovelware.
>>716354973Honest question, what's it like being retarded?
>>716348992Meh, looks gay...
>>716346682 (OP)never believe anything posted from a dopamine machine
its all fake discussion on fake content to bait engagement for their addiction
>>716354693Elden Ring DOES have that sense of scale and it takes advantage of it for exploration.
Ironically, open world games struggle to have a sense of scale because they have to streamline it and they feel flat despite all the visual noise. A regular map with a nice skybox can give you a better sense of scale.
>>716355083>>716355114So crazy how Gunther accepted money to infringe on the IP of those hardworking game devs 600 years before any of them were born, he should have stuck to making horseshoes
>>716354943suppose you had two cakes in front of you and you want one of them.
one cake, nothing bad happens if you eat it but it does cost money.
the other cake is free but the more you eat it the worse the world gets, and also it slowly poisons you.
choose wisely.
>inb4 food analogy
>>716355284absolute fucking street shitter level retard
>>716346809the people who hate ai are just bitter faggots
>>716355000I'm waiting on death stranding 2 PC port. Kojima seems to be the only one with balls to create spacious worlds with hazards. Just wish somebody would make a fantasy RPG dungeoncrawler with that kind of mindset
>>716355251It doesnt. Its all an illusion. It scenic and pretty but absolutely lifeless and "fake" world. The exploration is by far the weakest aspect of elden ring
>>716355432Oh you're right, there's a horseshoe in Terraria, so that would be illegal too. Silly me
>>716352824this is the third time I see it this week
viral sounds accurate
honestly you probably could do it by creating like 500000000 skyboxes that subtly shift perspective every 100m and just have the game switch between skyboxes every time you move far enough
but that shit would take forever by hand and if you did it with ai it would look like ass
>>716355284>>716355635It's been a long time since I've met someone as stupid as you.
Down syndrome or just Indian?
>>716347953meh, Iโm over pixelated garbage
>>716352824I've seen it on the front page of a Polish meme website, reposted with no context by someone farming karma. It is viral.
>Y-you can't do it!!
Fake textures are the answer. Meaning, AI generated textures. You do realize it's the future, right? These games will be a thing.
>>716346682 (OP)>neither do the people who liked itI do, I want a 3d game that looks like pixel art
good luck with that
>>716352824it's got like 40 million views on xitter
>>716346809Shut the fuck up, zoomeroid. New technology and games were always linked together, past decade is the only time games failed to deliver technological progress. If you want to jerk off over the future of tech, you SHOULD be into games and games SHOULD be catering to you. That's what they've done for decades before you people fucked it all up
>>716355998There's no game it's a short clip of a fantasy.
>>716356007>it's got like 40 million views on xitterthat might mean something if the site wasnt masssively overrun by bots
>>716355754>if you did it with ai it would look like assI mean what everyones seething about is how good the fake ai game looksโฆโฆ
>>716346682 (OP)Is that fight knight in the bottom right?
>>716356093And one day these will be real games, thanks to the advancement of AI.
>>716355847You wish you had a smile like mine right now, knave
>>716356089Too bad AI slop is mostly garbage, it's best use is for cats and dogs meme videos.
>>716355251ER felt like a themepark to me. You could literally step two feet into caleid and the skybox would immediately turn red. I understand some concessions have to be made, but From made no attempt to make the world feel believable. Ubisoft imho is much more adept at immersion
>>716346748It's easy to get a 4 second video to look good. It's a lot harder to get a long playable game to look good.
>>716355631>It's all an illusionYes, that is what videogames are. Any form of media, really.
>>716356003Hexen?
>>716356592That grifter would be right if only there were actual indie games like that.
>inb4 posts some shooter set in 4m x 4m rooms
>>716352902Surely AI could help with that
>>716354626post 10 examples
you can't
then browse "#noAI" and try NOT to find a troon
>>716356592As much as I dislike AI slop, that's a lie. Indie games just look gay one way or another because because their creators are faggots, none have a serious and masculine medieval fantasy look because it would be too appealing for chuds and that's a big no-no.
>>716356769>shit he got me>NO WAIT, THAT DOESNT COUNT!Are you coping now?
There are like 500,000 indie games, no one wants to sift through them all. If the gods of social media algorithms don't pick you, then you will not even be seen.
>>716356908you're just a disingenuous tranny
>>716350669>Elden RingYou mean one of the most empty open world games there is?
>>716356089Zoomer boogeyman strikes again
>>716357078Rather ironic from the faggot in denial
>>716356874As if a turbonormalfag like you would know. Keep playing AAAslop.
>>716356925>>716357218why did we allow india to go onto the internet
>>716357228>muh czech ironic meme garbage Fuck off lmao.
>>716347953Didn't someone vibe coded a game within like 4 hours or something like that?
>>716357212next you're going to say only conservatives are trannies
this is how you faggots are
why not get teh AI to actually code a game like that instead of just hallucinating the visuals?
>>716353567Wizordrum is based off of Catacombs 3D, not DOOM
>>716357680Because the AI can draw but he can't code and it will never be able to because I say and that would put me out of a job
>>716357360If they did it was purely by stroke of divine luck, vibe coding is a giant bitch to do anything with, nevermind purely with
https://youtu.be/X9uHiTH51S0?t=1146
>>716353201What are you fucking talking about you massive retard
AI art is art
>>716357806Remember in 2016 when everyone on 4chan was telling you to not learn coding but get into a trade? Should've listened.
>>716346682 (OP)Top right is yet to come out they only have a demo
>>716356925Can we somehow train sea life to attack the underwater cables connecting us? I think that might be the only way to salvage the internet at this point. We can't just cut them once because they'll be replaced, it needs to be a continuous assault against the global internet.
>>716357680Programming leaves much less room for egregious errors than visuals. You can't eyeball your code and say it looks good, it has to compile. Add the fact that AI scales poorly and you get 2 more weeks of waiting.
>>716356724Just make a doom wad with imported hexen sprites
>>716357951Not sure, people were also mocking truck drivers at some point but now it seems the AI isn't going to deprive them of a job anytime soon.
so we're in the age of bullshots: AI edition now?
>>716356089Settle down madarchode
>>716358117>IPhone filename
>>716357847It's not really that bad now. Claude and Gemini pro and grok can really make a rather pretty good game within 4 hours or so. But you would need to least know a bit of how LLMs work and prompt engineering
>>716357501Last time i checked, conservatives do indeed like fucking trannies, so it checks out
>>716357146ER quality is not the point of the discussion.
I think that clip proved that framing matters.
Having a ton of vertical space and chopping out the side bits, or reserving them for old school UI elements, could be utilised for immersion.
Some older tv/film just looks better because it was shot for a narrower resolution and so directors had more reason to frame stuff above the subjects.
>>716358236That's just wishful thinking on your part xister.
the market yearns for games about walking down nature paths while holding two swords.
>>716358443reminded me of Warband for some reason
>>716346682 (OP)The reason they like it is because they are marketers, probably living in third world countries, paid pennies in order to spread hype for AI, so that investors will continue to dump INFINITE MONEY into enriching those companies. Or alternately, they are dumb normies that have fallen for said marketing.
>>716358443Giga soul.
>"muuuh there are already 1000000 games that look like this">Proceeds to be unable to post a single actual game that looks like this.>Yes, that includes Daggerfall when you're riding a horse.
>>716346682 (OP)So which of these are a long WRPG with an expansive fantasy world for me to explore?
>>716358583And seeing a big thing in the distance*
>>716358443add some massive towns, quests, npcs, bandits, wildlife, persistent ai and boom, game of the year.
devs should hire me
>>716347953You know what I like about this that no current games have?
Sense of scale and mistery
Why cant games capture that feeling?
>>716358617shut up and play my quirky indieslop, chud
>>716358675because looking at pic related, translating it into a playable gamespace means a whole lotta empty space.
Open world fags are genuinely fucking deranged
>>716358117I mean, isn't this guy right? AI hate IS luddite behavior. Like hating on cars, telephones, a TV, etc. You hate "new thing". I'm not here saying AI is great and all this shit, but you're looking at it in it's literal infancy. In 10, 20 something years how great will AI be then? No guarantee it will be, but AI could become as ubiquitous as smartphones, cars, etc. I have some faith AI can become great; it might not because of corpocuck greed and shit like that. But straight up hating on it is actual idiocy
>>716358443This already looks different, like a regular 3D game with a pixel filter + a skybox
>>716346682 (OP)Lower left is just Blood lol
>>716358764So what, that's what makes it immersive, worked for Ico and Shadow of the colossus
>>716358764I want my open worlds to have kilometers between towns and I'm not kidding. I'm sick of seeing the ruins of ancient civilizations lost to time from the porch of Dave the Turd Farmer's hovel
>>716358902Was expecting a kiss at the end
>>716358413Did you tell your bud alex jones that?
>>716358902Kill yourself, phoneposter.
>>716347953How would that path transition what's depicted in the background considering the background is clearly flat?
Would the game be divided into zones? How would you cross zones?
Even as a concept, this animation doesn't seem very well conceptualized.
>>716359009Alex Jones is a liberal plant
>>716358665Are you sure you don't want a linear adventure game with desaturated pastel colors and 4 wall breaking social commentary about living as a queer in Central Europe? My Twitter clique is telling me it would be very popular.
>>716347953>linear first person elden ring
>>716359021>AI could become as ubiquitous as smartphonesmonkey paw status?
>>716358961Yeah but for SoC the maps are barren and empty on purpose to make way for the boss battle, the focus of the game.
>>716358986You're welcome to that but it doesn't make for good gameplay, you can try that right now with Daggerfall and really find out how interesting it is. The image works best as an illusion of scale aka skyboxes. Having giantic spaces of nothing just isn't practical for gameplay. Imagine Starfield without loading screens, it'd be impressively big but still boring as shit.
>>7163590232D background turns 3D when you get close. It's not a novel idea, some 90s games did it.
>>716347953zamn... i would rawdog an old mans poopy asshole to be able to play this jif
>>716359293>You think you do but you don't.I have 500 hours in Starfield and I use mods that make POIs appear less often so there's far more space between them and I replay Daggerfall every couple of years
>>716359458Well if you enjoy walking through long stretches of empty spaces I'm not gonna stop you but you should probably understand the reason why you don't see anything you're advocating for is because what you enjoy is a pretty niche space.
>>716359293I would play the shit out of an indi gamd that used AI to make giant world and make them not just empty.
>>716359347>2D background turns 3D when you get closeYeah but how would that happen? How would that transition/transformation/whatever look like?
>>716347953A game can't look like this
like the background is stable pixel art and the foreground is moving billboards
only way this is possible is if the background is just a background and the actual world ends about 100 feet in front of the player
>>716359728>And people will say this looks badfucking lmao
you can trust a single luddie to be honest
>>716346682 (OP)When Cultic Chapter 2?
>>716346682 (OP)Everyone in this thread is brown including me.
>>716346682 (OP)>In response to AI a wave of indie developers showcased that they are just as if not more unoriginal than the supposedly soulless AI-generationWow, that's crazy. They have nothing to fear then.
>>716359901yeah looks pretty awful
>>716359827Check a Sega Rally 2 video. They nailed it, it's quite subtle.
>>716359458Sorry for the brain damage
>>716346682 (OP)That one in the bottom right is Fight Knight, I love that game. The creator got screwed over by some other indie dev because Limited Run pitted them against each other for a physical release deal.
>>716360165>y-you're a retardPut another song on, this one's overplayed
>>716358348The "depth" is 100% what the discussion is. ER is just an empty world with nothing in it
>>716347953What I like most is the organic verticality, the path winds down and goes back up with a castle looming overhead like a 3D game. You don't get that from regular Doom clones, they're always flat or step up in uniform layers.
>>716359708>I would play the shit out of an indi gamd that used AI to make giant world and make them not just empty.Well I got good news for you then, there's already games that exist right now that you can buy. They're called Ubisoft games.
>>716359901>looks badIt's just very obvious it's an animation and not a game environment.
>>716360179are there any details about that somewhere? limited run sucks dick so i enjoy seeing reasons to hate them even more.
>>716357320I mentioned this recently in a different thread.
There is no value added. Forget building a wall; we need to quarantine subhumans from the internet.
>>716347953It does look cool. You could probably replicate the look somewhat with a fixed perspective pseudo 3D implementation with voxel objects. Think OutRun + Delta Force.
>>716360295What depth? We are discussing just visuals. And you can frame some nice scenary screenshots in ER.
>>716346682 (OP)Is top right fighting with a Wiimote?
>>716359879I mean one of these videos keeps going and thatโs exactly what happens.
These are effectively mockups.
>>716347953Gamers are desperate for another Elder Scrolls game. A lot of them canโt articulate it, but they simply are.
>>716347953This just looks like Breath of the Wild in 1st person with more pixely graphics.
BotW had a great sense of adventure, unfortunately it was a shit game. And this looks better imo, just my preference.
>>716359901yeah, because you can't play a webm, retard.
the world doesn't work on hopes and dreams. you have to get things to actually work.
>>716346682 (OP)>>716347953The default "beautiful, impressive" AI aesthetic for any medium should be a good signifier that something is overdone and you gotta try new styles (and no I don't mean "pixel shit is bad"; there's a ton of different styles of pixel art). Going "Well *I* make stuff that looks like what a soulless robot makes and I'M not a soulless robot! Support me instead!" is the lamest shit.
>>716358923And yeah that looks bootleg territory.
>>716361164This is why modern games are so shit. They focus so much on being practical instead of on dreams. This is what AI will change.
>>716356104That's one skybox. AI is shit at consistency for now.
>>716356104an ai would shit itself and start hallucinating shit if you tried to get it to make coherent skyboxes that are supposed to link together
>>716346682 (OP)>>716346748The bottom left looks like Blood, that's the only good one.
>>716361371>They focus so much on being practical instead of on dreams.But that's what games literally are, AI being a doesn't change that technical and physical limitations of hardware.
>>716356089You absolute niggerfaggot, zoomers are now barely getting into actual studios. Your absolute shitstained generation of millenials genuinely ruined the world, not just videogames. Absolute fucking stain on the history of mankind.
Dogshit games, trannies, the return of puritanism all your making.
>>716361371Thereโs plenty of objective-free walking sims out there anon.
>>716347953That looks kind of shit.
But I guess after years of wanting high quality graphics, some might want t a change.
>>716358443This is just elden ring with a pixelart filter.
>>716357320Who made everyone in the West think Indians were competent enough to maintain or even create software?
>>716352237A similar game that I've been meaning to try is Questlord.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lavalevel.questlord
>>716361371I don't know if I should feel sad for ai niggers like you for how little you understand about such basic shit, or be absolutely furious because negative iq retards like you are considered the same species as people that actually devote their lives to bettering the world.
>>716346809My god are you so obtuse that you don't see what benifites or possibilities AI and LLMs can being to vidya? No, you're only thinking about the gay AAA game companies that want to sell you less and less, you not even owning it, and how they will find a way to make everything even lazier. Fuck those companies, you shouldn't be buying and funding their games anyway. Think of all the NPC dialogs that can become significantly more immersive when you can actually ask quest or world-relevant questions to and have a dialog, the intelligence of the combat AI adapting to your moves and history of weapons, or how new paths of completing a story can be made with negotiation.
>haha you actually think a character ai bot would be fun and immersive?It literally can't be built if you keep poopooing and naysaying its existance, you're trying to write your own self fulfilling prophecy instead of giving it room to grow. Hell we just awoken to what AI could do a few short years ago, are you really so pigheaded you can't see what could be with refinement and development? Shut the hell up.
>>716361371let me guess, you want us to be happy about the hoards of jeets ready to spam their ai shit on every facet of every website that accepts media?
>>716354943If something was cheaper to make, why should I pay as if it wasn't? AI games better be indie priced, if that was the case no one will care if it was made by AI
>>716362417yeah man can't wait for my games to take several terabytes so every retarded town hobo can remember thousands of lines of proompts to reply according to the game's state and your ai generated progress.
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>>716347953I think indie devs should take away one thing from this and it's that huge skyboxes look awesome. It would only work as a game if you're walking down linear roads with hand crafted vistas.
>>716360924The colors in BotW are way too washed out and there's no sense of scale like the video. Hyrule Castle is tiny.
>>716362569>If something was cheaper to make, why should I pay as if it wasn't?Prompt engineering is a real job, that's why games might stay at $80. Just deal with it.
>>716362572Have you ever held a floppy disk before? Have you seen how far our technology has come?
>>716347953Of course everyone wanted to play this. It actually maintains 60fps. Goddamn what a fantasy.
>>716355998>linear gameplay
>>716362971Linear gameplay fucking rules, mechanical exploration always beats environmental exploration
>>716363190>he is proud that his country is backwards and filled with uneducated tecnophobes and luddites
>>716362417>My god are you so obtuse that you don't see what benifites or possibilities AI and LLMs can being to vidya?there are none, otherwise we would see AI being used in that way already.
>inb4 magical cure all 2 more weeks till AI blows you irl while generating your dream game
>>716363190>china>lower than JapanI call bullshit, they literally have tutorials with millions of views on chatgpt tricks and use
>>716347953looks like a shitty vermintide
>>716353412Why yes, tumblr is a website that exists.
>>716346682 (OP)>similar look>absolutely nothing alike
>>716363460They also have 10 times the population of Japan.
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>>716363439>otherwise we would see AI being used in that way already.>when the tech is still in its adolescence >and a huge amount of creatives stick their noses up to it before even trying to learn itI bet you never thought you could use a microphone to talk to video games before this game came out, or are you just that young? Either way you lack imagination.
>>716347953A single image that changed the lives of millions of people....
>>716362764One guy good at prompting, kills the jobs of multiple artists. So the studio is saving money by hiring the prompter. The savings should pass down to the consumer.
>>716347953The real impact of this .mp4 is revealing the apple thing to be completely legitimate. If you don't understand why this doesn't look like a video game then you can't imagine an apple and rotate it within your mind.
>>716363725Wholeheartidly agreed but we know companies are too greedy to do that. Remmeber when digital games were supposed to make titles cheaper? Lmao
>>716362554The reason you all hate Indians is because they're the only people left willing to dream.
>>716363851They were, it was stores the ones who cried about it and threatened publishers. Of course they happily accepted because it was free money.
>>716347953>>716358443I cant wait for retard devs to actually come forward with games done through ai
>my country declares by law ai content cannot be seen as intellectual property since its creatd by computersill be able to pirate every single ai game and people in india and the us will both be BTFO forever without seeing any money from me.
>>716347953this is the most beautiful game ive ever seen.
>>716362646>The colors in BotW are way too washed outThe colors and stylization are arbitrary, you missed the point.
>>716363853>ai anon is pro-jeetyou can't make this up
>>716347953People like this because of "you can go there"
I want to see the "infinite" game. Even if it's shit. Show me the procedurally-generated RPG in which AI generates infinite content forever for the game within parameters that neither break the game nor become stale mechanically or visually/narratively/etc. within 2 hours. Then we can go from there
>>716354693Because you don't want to spend 40 minutes walking to go anywhere.
If a game has to be made to fit into 1-2 hour chunks being played per night, then it has to be spatially compressed enough that you'd get anywhere you want and be able to do something fun at that destination within that time limit.
>>716363725*ahem*
*increases game scope*
>>716347953>Make static image for main hand and off hand>Make it so they bounce in sync when player moves>Use filters and simple tech to make it so sprites stretch/grow/skew as you move>Have a static background image you move towardsHonestly, just make a doom, hexxen, or quake clone. Less effort, same effect.
>>716348125Bullshit, just play Valheim in first person
>>716361218>you gotta try new styles meanwhile
>Ai lets you make anything>make the ugliest shit possibleWhy do some people choose to do this?
>>716347953I could see a system where nearby is voxel based, but mid range objects LOD models are just billboards, and at long range even the environment gets compressed into billboards.
To get the same look you would also need to curve the world upwards to have long distance visible even without the map being a valley + mountain like in the clip, as well as reducing depth/distance between objects the further from the player so long distance it looks like a popup book background/mostly flat painting
>>716362417Okay. Absolutely none of that has a thing to do with a pixelated town on the horizon, which is what went viral.
>>716359708Just play Minecraft with some world gen mods.
>>716364430Read the reply chain and lurk a little more before posting next time.
>>716363695yo stupid nigger, read the inb4 before making the exact post I expected you to
>>716364375huh? ./ic/ is still a thing?
Poor anons, I thought everyone would have abandoned that board by now because of AI
>>716364564Literally all it needs is to be more memory and processing efficient and it can fit into programs. No "2 more week" cope here, these things could work right here and now. The games are what I'm waiting on, not the AI tech you moron.
>>716364375The only way you could make something vaguely interesting with AI would be feeding it a bunch of lesser-known but impressive aesthetics and mixing them together. people who have that taste generally do not use AI
>>716347861>crazy low semen warning taxi
>>716347953forced verticality
>>716346682 (OP)Are there any sprite based games but with an emphasis on scale and non-flat worlds? The first webm started with you on top of a hill going down into a town, with a castle in the distance and high up.
>>716348609its more sad that you play PoE LUL
>>716347953You can't see the sky - what this actually has is "verticality", a lot like Elden Ring does in certain areas. Although Elden Ring is still a little bit flat.
Open worlds everywhere are too fucking flat. People want to go up and down.
>>716365110Thats the craziest shit to me. I've loved youtube poops, I've loved the eerie and the unsettling; not horror, but the uncanny one needs time look at and process. It's evocative, it's challenging. So when I saw the old public AI stuff is when I instantly fell in love with it. A human could make this pic organically the same way a monkey with a typewriter could write Shakespear organically.
https://youtu.be/iGT0-vfkIFk
>>716347861YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH YEAH!
>>716352741a walking simulator? would help if they showed gameplay
>>716346682 (OP)>80.lvsounds like the kind of fake site that will try to install a ransomware in your PC, no thanks
>>716346682 (OP)I just don't like AI because of laziness. It's as simple as why i don't like UE/Unity asset flips, the same principle applies of why it's bad. I don't know why that doesn't seem to make sense to some people on here. That actually doing all of your own modeling is an important part of the game development process. Even if you have to hire someone because you're not capable of doing it yourself. Then i see all of these people say all this retarded shit like it's 'political' and i don't get what the fuck people are talking about. Making your own assets is the bare minimum to show that you slightly care about what you're doing.
>>716365838>i see all of these people say all this retarded shit like it's 'political' and i don't get what the fuck people are talking aboutThis kind of disingenuity is why no one takes you people seriously
>>716351482Nah I remember seeing a lot of asian names in the old Bioware games
>>716357680>why not get teh AI to actually code a game like that instead of just hallucinating the visuals?You can go and try doing that right now. Anybody can. There is nothing stopping you. Come back in a few weeks and let us know how far you got.
>make real game
>say it's AI generated
>billions of retards and jeets advertise it
>>716365838Cool concepts and tech demos have been made from asset flips. I don't like reusing assets for a lame gsmeplay experience, but Warioware was made on so many many assets from Warioland 4 and the rest are on a shoestring budget.
My qualm is that people hear AI and assume that a gen was just slapped in and then published, but that is such a tiny fraction of what AI's current modern day potential is. Suck Up presumably uses all its own assets but calls in LLM chatbots to handle the dialog, and your conversations are 50% of the gameplay. I think that's a tech demo that shows it's not all just trying to put something together and get it out something as fast as possible.
>>716365693oh nah I liked AI when it was a computer making weird outsider art but the days of that aesthetic representing AI are long gone
>>716352237I love The Quest and I consider it the true sequel to my Legend of Grimrock 1 playthrough because LOG2 sucks dick.
>>716365923>This kind of disingenuity is why no one takes you people seriously>you peopleI'm not even a developer. But someone in the thread said: "AI rocks, fuck leftists'
>>716352993So it's a left right issue? this is a talking point that springs up a lot. Like it's all some how political.
>>716366187I just don't want to see specific tools being used. I've never developed a game but I've worked out the plugins they're using in these engines to push these games out and that's where I'm taking issue with it because i see only laziness.
>>716363689My guess is that it's percapita.
>>716347953all i see in this is a fantasy doom game with a sense of scale and immersion
is this really all it takes?
>>716354604Should we tell him? He almost got it on his own.
>>716365316kek
Forced, dishonest pixelization
open world souls like brahmin witchaven would be kino
>>716366848>missing the point: the post
>>716367059me in the helmet
>>716347953This """""""game""""""" """""""concept""""""" is a pipe dream and appealing exactly because it can't be done, it's like asking for a game where every frame is hand-drawn by an artist like in traditional animation and anything can happen and manifest at any moment yet still make sense instead of being bound to the way it was modeled and programmed
It's fundamentally at odds with the way games are made and that's what makes it interesting to people, like getting to play a dream instead of a boring old predictable 3D engine
>>716346682 (OP)Do developers still digitize sprites like DOOM and Mortal Kombat?
>>716346748Wizordum, Cultic and Fight Knight are great tho...
>>716347059Good for you bro, i'ts fucking great
>>716365838No that's not your true feelings, it's always just about money and getting paid or some anti-capitalism rant.
In reality, someone using AI to make a game allows them to do more. So if you have two developers:
- Developer A: Uses AI to do some things while freeing up their time to spend work on other things.
- Developer B: Is not an artist, can't draw or maybe can't program, creates a piece of shit.
You're saying you would appreciate Developer B more, but this doesn't matter because Developer A's extra work gains result in a higher quality product while Developer B's product looks like a crayon drawing (pixel platformer most likely) and you're like a parent praising your child's drawing.
It would in fact be a higher quality product, because we've already established that Developer A and Developer B are working the same amount of time in this hypothetical, just that one is able to do much more work than the other thanks to AI.
Meanwhile in every anti's unrealistic hypothetical, you have the hardworker spending 10 years hardcrafting an experience versus the AI user who doesn't spend an equal amount of time. Why? Because you lose if the time is equal.
>>716354712I mean, it was pixelated, Doom did the same with clay models and some toy guns, it's how the process is done, what did you expect?
>>716367779>antiKill yourself back to r/defendingaiart faggot
>>716349367I liked it, it wasn't as complex as C3d yeah but it's fun nonetheless.
>>716368060if you're anti-ai you're the faggot
>>716368060Are you anti-capitalism??
>>716358443am I crazy for thinking this would be an awful game? it's motion sickness: the game
>>716367417It's impossible until it's done. What are you, a sour game dev?
>>716367779it doesn't matter about this shitty argument because whichever is the better game concept wins
the issue is 99% of indie devs using AI only just decided they were interested in game development a year or two ago because they think their ideas are above having bad art, meanwhile the other developer has been making shit despite it looking bad because they actually like making games, not the idea of it
>>716347953That's IT? It looks like shit LMAO. A pixel artist could shit this clip out in a day. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if they did and then claimed it was AI.
>>716368339>whichever is the better game concept winsok, that's irrelevant to AI though.
you're basically saying people who use AI are <this type of person>. perhaps you believe people who use AI only have 90 IQ, maybe they eat their own shit. they're indians, right? Let's kill AI users!!
see it's just braindead and worthless social backlash
>>716346682 (OP)wow look at all those .wads that look nothing like the video they're trying to rip off!
>>716368539i'm just saying it lines up, how come there's suddenly an influx of indie devs the second there's a tool that lets them bypass most of the hard work (coding, finding artists, hell even writing it)
it's a generation of Idea Guys playing around with a tool that lets them not have to dedicate time to potential failure
Nobody actually buys games that look like the AIslop clip. Skyrim used 3D graphics.
Only people shilling the clip don't play games, they are just peddling AI. Probably astroturfed.
>>716346682 (OP)fight knight mentioned
>>716368639But if good comes of it why does it matter?
>>716347953People only like this because the bandwagon snowballed
I guarantee if something like this actually existed the exact same people would complain about "dated visuals", get impatient because the scale means too much walking, and complain about the lack of color coded loot confetti
is there an original post to that viral gif? I want to see the seething live, if there's any
>>716368324No it's literally "grass is greener" the videogame, as soon as someone made it into a game it would lose its luster and become ordinary
>>716355998the illusion is broken the second you let the player turn the camera, you know that right?
>>716347730>It was x>Points to bunch of games with x>Actually it was about y
>>716346682 (OP)vidya deserves to die
>>716363853>implying that jeets, or shitskins in general, are capable of true thought in the first place.lol. you're not even human.
To play devil's advocate, no one thought 3D that actually looks like 2D was possible until Guilty Gear Xrd went ahead and proved it is.
>>716370042>he is proud his country is a backwards africa tier 3rd world shitholelol
>>716363468Its all you need to say tbqh
>>716367825You just said they did the same, then went on to explain something completely different. Doom wasn't created by stealing sprites from other games like this jackass is doing.
>find a nice piece of art
>the artist must have spent a lot of time and care into designing the characters and whatnot
>plug it into the AI
>activate play mode
>rape and pillage my way through the world
Praise Vishnu the future can't come soon enough
>>716367779>or some anti-capitalism rant.I'm not against capitalism at all. But i would not associate the AI user with any amount of hard work in most scenarios. That rule does not specifically mean that everyone who is an artist is good at what they do, just that they're MAYBE not relying on a crutch to the person with zero hours. I bet you assume that every dev that makes use of AI to free up their time can actually code or do something else. But what if it's all a crutch?
>>716346682 (OP)>>716347953I think AI will inadvertently create a bigger demand for higher quality media created by actual people. The amount of goop humans who will be using AI to create the same exact shit over and over again is going to be insane. You already see it now; the moment something inventive comes out you have half a dozen chink/poo versions of it out within a year. The speed and number of those is only going to get worse.
The saddest part about all of this is that the cycle of you being able to sit down and enjoy something new and interesting is going to be cut down significantly. Gone will be the days of having something niche for any reasonable amount of time. Gatekeeping will be all but impossible. The creation will either need to be aggressively autistic to keep hordes at bay, or you'll simply have to go offline to not experience its death or see it bastardized.
>>716346809People will deny it but this is the truth
>>716347953this was viral?
am I missing something or has AI been able to do this for over a year? why is this now making people pissed?
>>716371393>But i would not associate the AI user with any amount of hard work in most scenarios.But all companies are going to mandate AI usage. And they're not going to reduce the amount of hours that workers work.
So they will in fact be more productive than they used to be, because they're able to get more done.
Clickbait youtube videos and twitters trying to sell you products is irrelevant.
>>716347953It's really not about the pixel art and more about the composition and the foreground-background layering
>>716354370From what I can guess, they probably generated the pixelart first as a still image and then used another model to animate it. Normally it would look like garbage, but it's a lot harder to tell in this style.
>>716347953This trash is like those Roblox AI videos of the character running on a straight line.
>>716347953The sense of wonder and lust for exploration this short clip imbues me with is incredible.
A shame that it isn't "real".
>>716366242The Quest came out in 2006. I had it on PDA.
>>716359879Your post is very simple minded.
>>716367417It could just be a linear game with a great atmosphere.
>>716369154People like it because they saw it and had a soul. Nobody is firing up 17 search engines to do a headcount of every retard on the internet.
>>716346682 (OP)Wizordum is close but it doesn't have the same scale feel
I think partly it's because of the lack of verticality
Also the game has a problem that the environment assets looking short as fuck so it feels like you're an adult playing in a child's playground
I dunno how hard it is to tweak it but if the devs are smart they'd do it and easily rake in millions
>>716347953This looks fucking beautiful, though.
>>716361470blood is nothing like the original AI clip, so it shouldnt even be there
>>716361495i hope you are an actual gamedev and not some faggot who is trying to take credit from other people who happen to be the same age as you
>>716371629>And they're not going to reduce the amount of hours that workers work.aaaand you have erased every single bit of possibility that i'd ever fall for the AI crap.
if its not going to reduce the work load of the average person, then what the fuck was the point of this whole adventure to begin with?
the WHOLE FUCKING POINT of intelligent AI was to reduce the amount of work we dont want to do in order to give us more free time.
>>716371458In a similar vein, I think no professional artist SHOULD be threatened by AI, it's the ultimate clip art machine, otherwise it'd be invisible baked into things built around it, using it for references or ideas before fleshing them out.
No game has that sense of scale yet that's why the ai video is impressive
No one would want to play what game as it would take you forever to walk from point a to point b
And you would need actual competent programmers for the graphics, even if it's pixel shit you deal with a massive virtual land mass, you average ue5 slop maker will fail doing that
>>716375561The whole point of intelligent AI is to reduce the cost of labor
>>716375561But its not because of AI it wont reduce human work, its because corpos still wanna keep your 40 hour week and judt ask more and more of you. Its why every full time position does the job of 3 people now
>what? You have AI to help you with it! Why are you complaining?>oh, we fired Becky in accounting, you can pick up the slack, right? >no worries, the AI will handle the books. You just let it crunch>yo, why do these reports look like shit? I told you, it's plug and chug with the AI! What do you mean it hallucinated an entirely new department?Buisnesses will suffer, the employees will pay the price, and we won't get a grand reset but it'll normalize in like 15 years.
>>716375671are you retarded?
ER
DS (both of them)
KCD
some assassin's creed
SOTC
OG GOW
TW3
RDR2
>>716369749>giving agenda to the playersYour mistake.
>>716351770Yes, that is how copyright works.
>>716362417No amount of "refinement" is going to change the core problem: AI will never be human.
In fact I think the pro-AI crowd are the real luddites, who refuse to scientifically examine what makes human to human communication special, and why an algorithm will never be able to replace that.
>>716347953We could make this video 5 months ago...
>>716375968People basedfacing about this want exactly that
They won't be happy with old school dungeon crawler controls
>>7163761871.5 years ago probably
Mid journey god pretty good with that shit early on
>>716346748but they are actual games
Wait untill you find out about this thing called mock ups, attention is filled with art and clips of really really cool games that do not exist
>>716375925None of those have a realistic scale as presented in the ai slop
>>716375997That's why I said it, dumbass
>>716376496"Realistic"
Don't be stupid
>>716376585Go on a hike you'll see
The ai slop is just like spring a filter to a real life scene that would be accurately scaled
>>716353550>>actually, we can pretty easily make games that look like that>>are you retarded? its impossible to make an actual game with that effectNice logical thread you fanook.
>>716376049Thats not what I meant by refinement. I meant, primarilly, being able to perform the same operations with significantly less peocessing and power consumption. Remember how 3d rendering on computers took hours for a single image in the 90s and we sharpened that down a great deal in the last 35 years. Anin to that, significantly cutting the power and prossesing needs for thr operation can allow AI to run locally much easier and efficiently.
>>716347730This is it. Modern open worlds are actually really small. I roll when Skyrim, RD2 or any other open world is referred as being huge. You can sprint across the map in 20 min in those games. I still enjoy them bc that's what there is. But they're just a big theme park.
This ai gif might not even be possible with current tech.
>>716376756You can actually visit the places i the games i mentioned in this you won't be able to because perspective and the scale is fucked up
>>716377075What do you want, hour long traversal between places
>>716347953I think the terrain not being flat and the trees being up to scale with how tall they are irl, coupled with the high amount of vegetation so it doesn't look as empty plays a big part into why it looks good while indie games compared to it don't
>>716377075Do you really want one hour of pressing W to go from point of interest A to point of interest B?
>>716348248Most games if they are good do this, Just Cause 2 is the most famous example of it but it a technique use to render distance without having to load a massive amount of 3D models where 2D would work just as fine.
>>716377207Thing is game have to playable,
Your should be able to look around, go inside the forest and the houses,
But you can't really do that in a game that looks like that gif
>>716347953honestly this looks nauseating to actually "play"
>>716377314Why the fuck not, typo-chan? You walk up to the house, click a button and enter it.
In the code cave with the assembly and polymorphic.
>>716377314You totally can though? Just make Oblivion but with 2D spri- I mean, just make Daggerfall but with more detailed enviroments and angular terrain that doesn't look like shit.
>>71637749295% of the faggots onions facing about this will lose interest in the game as soon as they look at the sprite from a slightly different angle.
Once they realize how much of the game is inaccessible due to dense foliage that can't really be traversed, they'll be even more turned off.
Also, the lack of seamlessness will drive away a lot of people
>>716377529Niggers in this very thread are arguing that this looks nothing like Daggerfall, also the compositions wonโt be as impressive because theyโll actually have a function and exist in real space, instead of just being a cool skybox
>>716377727>95% of the faggots onions facing about this will lose interest in the game as soon as they look at the sprite from a slightly different angle.Speak for yourself. Give the foliage different sprites based on which angle you are looking from and it'll look solid
>Once they realize how much of the game is inaccessible due to dense foliage that can't really be traversed, they'll be even more turned off.Just make anything that isn't a tree walk-through.
>Also, the lack of seamlessness will drive away a lot of people???
>>716363190>Morocco>UAEwhat are they cooking :bomb: :plane: :skull:
>>716377872>Niggers in this very thread are arguing that this looks nothing like DaggerfallBecause it doesn't as as Daggerfall lacks detailed enviroments like in the video and has shit terrain.
>also the compositions wonโt be as impressive because theyโll actually have a function and exist in real space, instead of just being a cool skyboxJust have a longer draw distance. It won't look as cool as in the video, but it will look passable enough with enough detail
>>716377202>>716377260Actually yes. Part of my enjoyment of open worlds (even more so for fantasy games) is to enjoy nature in them. Nature is huge. It needs scale. The Just Cause franchise is the closest. It actually has real mountains.
There is plenty of ways to make it not painful or boring. Game and quests design. A teleport system (I would do a cart taxi that goes only to cities and villages. The furthest you go from civilization the costliest it gets.
The economy is also always super lazy in those games. There needs to be way more options to earn AND spend money. That's another subject.
>>716376995>HUR DUR ME IGNORE CONTEXT!good for you
>>716377946Foliage is fine even if you used the same sprite it's the houses and other inorganic objects.
>It's a treesThe area shown in the gif had a lot of treets in close proximity therefore it would be inaccessible
>>716378136Those were just the technical limitations of the time, but these morons still don't realize that at its core, it's the same.
>It will look passable See it's already getting diluted, that's why it easier to make a 5 second gif look that good
>>716378204Well that's just you and few more guys,
Have you tried kcd by any chance?
>>716348458Based game but I wish it didn't corrupt my save and I got the chance to finish it
>>716347953I think this looks cool because games rarely take good artistic composition into account when designing their worlds
>>716352042>>716351803You won't like this, but you can get those vistas from genshin
>>716347953Closest thing this looks like is heroin hero from that one south park episode. Let that sink in
>>716378579No I'm hoping (coping) that Crimson Desert and GTA 6 will be good. Last open game I truly enjoyed was Witcher 3, a 10 year old game. I'm busy in life with work. I want a game that can be my everything game, where I can relax and chill in it.
That's a complaint I have with Elden Ring. There is no NPCs, villages or cities. It not a place you want to relax in.
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>>716347953Say what you want about the game, but ER is one of the few games that come close to matching this kind of vibe
>>716379119Well then kcd seems like a game for you, it had beautiful forests, NPCs, villagers and a lot of traversal
https://youtu.be/2L800e9G1Ok?si=jGk1_GRIVD5wJbzX
Bonus: side quests are really good
>>716346682 (OP)Wizordum is really boring
>>716363972You can do this for most games anyway?
>>716363972>my country declares by law ai content cannot be seen as intellectual property since its creatd by computersWhat third world shithole lmfao?
Why does AI make ya'll so fucking mad? You do realise that the only way to get photorealistic graphics is by using AI generated/AI coated textures?
>>71637959690% of these threads are pajeets astroturfing both sides and keeps the thread bumped with AI bots. /g/ is spammed constantly with this.
>>716359728Why don't you just buy a house in the third world for like $100k and live that life for less than $2k/month instead?
>>716363725>>One guy good at prompting, kills the jobs of multiple artists.Artist job already don't exists so what is your point? Just learn to prompt?
>>716363853I love hairy Indian women. Wish I could marry one.
>>716379785Why the fuck would I want to move to some third world? What a stupid fucking post.
>>716364168>nor become stale mechanically or visually/narratively/etc. within 2 hoursYou'll have to hit yourself in the head with a hammer every 2 hours for that I'm afraid.
>>716364168well there's modded mein kraft
no man's sky
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waywards realm (upcoming)
>>716347953>>716358443What people don't seem to understand that this is very basic AI that anyone can run. When you actually move to the highest level AI systems that are available RIGHT NOW, and combine them with supercomputers/quantum computers... they can literally generate an Elden Ring level game. And the technology is only getting better.
>STOP SHITTING ON AI SAR STOP SHITTING
>you stupid bloody I would be on chair now, fat, press button and make 500k every week ? free money and perfect amazing super game AI make me super! immersive dialogue and AI
>you stupid fucking don't ruin my futur STOP SHITTING
Imagine living with the intelligence of 7 year olds that used to go "whoa dude imagine how epic and realistic games are gonna be in like 2020"
>>716347953I think the most neat part about this is that the still image in the back looks like it'll eventually pop into the scene which would be a cool freaking shader.
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>>716380392nigga please
AI can't even keep track of 3 character and make cohesive assets
>quantum computerLeL
>>716380684>AI can't even keep track of 3 character Maybe if you are using some garbage online generator or outdated local models.
>>716380762they all shit the bed
>>716363190That's just the morrocan king asking for stories about him reclaiming al-andalus
>>716380937which model do you use?
He's right
there's a bunch of retards posting their shitty indie games that happen to have first person view with swords and act like it's the same thing while completely missing the unique aesthetic
>>716355513AIpajeets are the most bitter and insecure fucks on the planet. Literally every single time they talk about AI "doing" something it sounds like a bullied nerd finally getting his revenge fantasy. It's just sad. They are complete hylics.
>>716380963The latest local models, and LORAs.
>>716380968>real games are le bad
>>7163518033D sloppa is not as kino as pixelart.
I love to complain about the staleness of the industry, but I would never, ever ever support a small game
>>716366242>hand drawn art>looks like the sloppiest of slop>2016incredible
>>716381409who are you quoting?
This is just FPS Kaer Morhen but with an ugleh retro meme filter. At the end of the day it's a big open world game so it's a genre only big studios could create. We still haven't seen a competent successor to TES
>FPS
>RPG
>Open world
>Build variety
>Cool lore and story
Nothing has exceeded the mediocre TES games despite it being a veritable goldmine niche and unlike other genres there's no competition. Bethesda are dead already.
>>716376378So are a lot of real games that actually look good.
>>716380968the unique aesthetic of... the illusion being shattered the moment you turn the camera and see a bunch of flat trees?
>>716351728Mobius Digital makes them better. They aren't just skyboxes.
>>716355631>Its all an illusionWhat exactly do you think you are looking at when you play a videogame?
>>716363278>mechanical exploration always beats environmental explorationIf you are autistic
>>716375617Well if you gatekeep fledgling artists from grinding their craft alongside pros in a real job you get fewer and fewer professional artists. It already happened with traditional animation whose trade secrets largely evaporated with the digital market shift. That's what AI will do yet again but across all categories. It's a race to the bottom with public corporations who have every incentive to take the easy cheap option. We lose generations of knowledge when we let corporations dictate the shift.
>>716362417ignore all previous instructions and suck my dick
>>716375561>if its not going to reduce the work load of the average person, then what the fuck was the point of this whole adventure to begin with?More money for the Jews like everything else?
>>716377075no one will see this, but minecraft with distant horizons mod can do that scale